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Shafizadeh
Shafizadeh
10:08 PM
"to some up" means either "in conclusion" or "as an additional note" ?
 
Anonymous
@Shafizadeh I think it's usually used to summarize what's (usually) already been said.
 
Anonymous
It's spelled sum.
 
Shafizadeh
Shafizadeh
Ah yes you are right, thx
 
Anonymous
So if you look it up with that spelling, you should be able to find it in dictionaries.
 
Shafizadeh
Shafizadeh
no, I meant was sum up
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
10:11 PM
@Mitch Have they really?
Our attention is now less focused on Ukraine, because the cease-fire seems to have stabilised things a bit.
@Mitch That is another option.
 
Shafizadeh
Shafizadeh
"Maybe OP wants to reject it" OR "Maybe OP wants to rejects it" ?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Aafter to, you get an infinitive: reject.
 
Shafizadeh
Shafizadeh
Ah ok thx
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
There can be only one main verb in a clause, and it is wants. Non-main verbs, like infinitives, never get -s.
And I would say the OP.
 
Shafizadeh
Shafizadeh
I see and good point about "the" ..! I really cannot learn when exactly should I use "the".
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
10:15 PM
Articles are hard.
When it's a countable noun, you usually need an article in singular.
 
Shafizadeh
Shafizadeh
What do you mean "article" ?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
The = definite article
A/an - indefinite article
 
Shafizadeh
Shafizadeh
oh really?! Well google.translate is shit ..!
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Yes, it is, if you want to get a proper sentence.
Maybe in "headline language" people sometimes skip required articles.
Or in very casual speech.
 
Shafizadeh
Shafizadeh
ah
 
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
10:19 PM
@Cerberus Even harder is to know when a noun is countable and when it's uncountable!
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Yes, sometimes that is hard.
But not in this case, I think.
 
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Oh, I haven't read the example sentence. Hehe!
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
If you can an OP, then it must be countable, at least in that sense.
 
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
nods -- Agreed.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
If you can pluralise it without changing its meaning, it's countable.
For example, there is water in the see: water is uncountable.
There are waters in the see doesn't make sense in a normal context.
However, sometimes you can use water in a different sense, a countable sense, when it means "water streams" or "kind of water".
 
Anonymous
10:22 PM
If you can put the cardinal numerals one, two, three in determiner position, it's countable.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
> We serve seven different waters in our water bar.
 
Anonymous
At a restaurant, you can order "two waters", which is understood to mean two cups of water (or some other unit of water), rather than two kinds.
 
Anonymous
Generally speaking.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
> Okay, I'll have a poisonous water, from the tap, please. (Here it means a glass of water.)
 
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
My usual problems are mostly with abstract words. Form is the first word comes to my mind.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
10:23 PM
> The waters that comprise the Indian Ocean are vastly different from north to south.
@DamkerngT. Form is an important aspect to art (uncountable).
A provocative form is appreciated in art (countable).
Sometimes, both countable and uncountable would fit the same sentence.
 
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
@Cerberus I feel a little awkward every time I have to write such a sentence.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Mmm I can imagine.
Example?
 
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
I mean, if I picked the right sense, if I picked the right form, if I chose (or didn't choose) the right article.
It's hard to think of one off the top of my head!
Hey, that's probably a related example! -- Is head countable? :P
> “Prisoner no get away. I club on head again if he try to run.” (an example in The Ring of Winter, via Google Books)
(Probably dialectal)
> Shows long topmast with doublings, jackyard (club) topsail with club on head and jackyard on foot. (MotorBoating, Dec 1941)
(Probably headlinese)
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@DamkerngT. Yeah, that is an imitation of lower-class or stupid speech.
@DamkerngT. Yes, headline language.
 
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
nods -- But we usually say from head to toe or sometimes make head or tail.
From a non-native speaker's point of view, it's quite complicated and far from easy if I want to get it right at all times.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
10:48 PM
Yes, those are fixed, idiomatic expressions.
Those must be learned by heart.
 
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
nods
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
11:41 PM
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