English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

RegDwigнt

2:01 PM

D2Dtest.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt You need to answer some questions today.

RegDwigнt

Why would I want any such thing.

> When all succour ſeems to be lost, Heaven unexpectedly presents the ſilver lining oſ a ſable cloud to the virtuous.

I think he misspelled suckers.

tchrist

Lollipop.

@RegDwigнt So I don’t lap you without trying hard tomorrow.

Robusto

He might even lagniappe you.

RegDwigнt

You know, I actually did post an answer only recently, and a very mundane one at that, about a very simple thing, and it immediately generated OVER 9000 comments like I just rewrote the Bible or something.

tchrist

2:06 PM

Saw that.

RegDwigнt

So tanks but no tanks, I'd rather play WoT next time.

tchrist

Wheel of Time?

RegDwigнt

World of Thanks.

You drive around in a Thank and shoot at panthers and ferdinands and sherman furies.

Robusto

The french drive around in tanques.

RegDwigнt

It is most very fun.

The French drive around in shit.

tchrist

2:07 PM

And be happy you’ll’ve done so. Wheel of Time is also Waste of Time.

RegDwigнt

Seriously, you can ask anyone at all, the French line is the worst.

tchrist

I just got my Audi back after a month stuck with an idiotic Toyota the other guy’s insurance rented me. It was like going from a world where everything was wrong to one where everything was right.

RegDwigнt

The cannon can't shoot straight, only up, and it couldn't go through yesterday's newspaper if you paid it.

tchrist

Like, ever single thing is backwards in Japan.

RegDwigнt

But the armor is ginormously thick, and the reverse is actually faster than forward.

Robusto

2:09 PM

> You can now read 75.1% of all real Spanish text

Still ain't enough.

RegDwigнt

No seriously, it's like they want to reinforce your prejudices.

tchrist

I posted a Der Spiegel article here the other day. I can’t even remember why the hell that was the best article I could find on whatever it was about.

RegDwigнt

There's one artillery they specifically built backwards onto its chassis, so it drives faster when it backs down.

Robusto

@tchrist Speaking of Audi, it suddenly came to me the other day what their badge mark has to mean.

tchrist

@Robusto ¿So you’re 75% done? :)

Robusto

2:11 PM

@tchrist 75% is a very frustrating number. It's like failing on 1 out of 4 words.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto that's like a matter of public knowledge.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt I had never deigned to notice it until our recent spate of snow.

I mean, who cares what emblems car makers choose?

RegDwigнt

@Robusto Mkay then I don't think we're talking about the same thing. Which meaning do you have in mind?

Robusto

The four connected circles.

RegDwigнt

The way I remember, it was Horch plus three other companies.

Robusto

2:13 PM

Which probably come from their penchant for all-wheel drive.

tchrist

@Robusto It’s how they spell things in that funny Doicher script.

RegDwigнt

So four rings for four partners.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt Well, they have their story, I have mine.

RegDwigнt

And he was not allowed to use Horch for legal reasons, even though it was his damn name, so he just changed it into Latin.

tchrist

Robusto

2:13 PM

My explanation is more attractive and fun.

tchrist

AUDI = OOOO

RegDwigнt

> Since August Horch was banned from using "Horch" as a trade name in his new car business, he called a meeting with close business friends, Paul and Franz Fikentscher from Zwickau, Germany. At the apartment of Franz Fikentscher, they discussed how to come up with a new name for the company.

Haha, detailed wiki is detailed.

Seriously, do tell me whose appartment it was in. Totally important.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt Hmm, only since August?

tchrist

Fickentscher, really?

RegDwigнt

> During this meeting, Franz's son was quietly studying Latin in a corner of the room. Several times he looked like he was on the verge of saying something but would just swallow his words and continue working, until he finally blurted out, "Father – audiatur et altera pars... wouldn't it be a good idea to call it audi instead of horch?"

> "Horch!" in German means "Hark!" or "hear", which is "Audi" in the singular imperative form of "audire" – "to listen" – in Latin. The idea was enthusiastically accepted by everyone attending the meeting.

Seriously, are them is writes a ncylopäedia, or are them is writes a Dan Brown novel?

Robusto

2:16 PM

@tchrist It's zero in binary, so what?

tchrist

Exaudi orationem meam, Domine, et deprecationem meam.

RegDwigнt

> In 1932, Audi merged with Horch, DKW, and Wanderer, to form Auto Union AG, Chemnitz. [...] Before World War II, Auto Union used the four interlinked rings that make up the Audi badge today, representing these four brands. This badge was used, however, only on Auto Union racing cars in that period while the member companies used their own names and emblems.

tchrist

So, like, Yo!.

RegDwigнt

How yolo can you go?

tchrist

Limbo.

We need more questions like this if etymology is ever going to attract enough male students. — John Lawler 13 hours ago

Does that mean it was a girly question, or like, what?

Robusto

2:20 PM

@tchrist So all these linguists we've been seeing here are women? Who knew?

tchrist

En la red, nadie sabe distinguir los perros de la perras.

Ni separarlos.

Ni pararlos.

Robusto

@tchrist Why wouldn't it be "En la red, nadie no sabe distinguir los perros de la perras"?

Negative complement.

And negative compliment, in this case.

Kit Z. Fox

@tchrist Because men don't know how to fold maps.

A Beautiful Mind

Hello @kit.

Kit Z. Fox

Hi @ABeautifulMind. I got your email.

I was pleased to hear it.

Mitch

2:24 PM

@KitZ.Fox You're so mappist.

Kit Z. Fox

@Mitch Well, I can't really help it. My training is in maps and map technology.

Robusto

0

Q: Period and Colon

Which of these is correct (The word manager is abbreviated to Mgr): Your Line Mgr: OR Your Line Mgr.:

For a second I thought that was about something else. Medical advice, perhaps.

Kit Z. Fox

Well, some of it is.

Mitch

@KitZ.Fox I bet you wouldn't even ask for directions. scoffs

Kit Z. Fox

I do sometimes, but usually I don't need to.

Mitch

2:26 PM

Sorry, I have a bit of a score scthroat.

A Beautiful Mind

My training is also in maps, because a map can mean a function from the domain to the codomain, lol.

Kit Z. Fox

@ABeautifulMind Indeed, and a good joke that.

Robusto

@ABeautifulMind When you're not mapping, you're reducing?

tchrist

@Robusto You could say No sabe nadie but not really nadie no sabe.

Mitch

My training is also in maps, taking the real word through my sense to my brain.

Kit Z. Fox

2:27 PM

I had no idea we had so much in common.

Mitch

You too?

Kit Z. Fox

Given that another part of my training was in sensorimotor integration.

Robusto

@tchrist But without the negative reinforcement, doesn't nadie mean somebody? I am confused.

tchrist

@Mitch That’s a very cartographical image.

Mitch

Asking someone for directions is like looking in the back of the book for answers. If you have to ask someone, you've given up trying.

tchrist

2:28 PM

@Robusto No, alguien means somebody, algo means something or somewhat, and nadie means nobody.

Kit Z. Fox

@Mitch Interesting concept.

Mitch

@tchrist You wouldn't understand. It's a map thing.

A Beautiful Mind

I often have difficulty giving people directions, even if I can walk there myself. Is there a term for people like me or this problem?

Kit Z. Fox

@ABeautifulMind Normal.

Mitch

@ABeautifulMind 'person'

jinx!!

tchrist

2:29 PM

@Mitch map sort map

Kit Z. Fox

I think today is a good day for a pot of tea. But which kind of tea?

tchrist

Potties.

Mitch

I don't what the street names are!. Take a left a little after the building that used to have the funny colored flag out front, and then a left, well it's sort of a left because theres'a a fork but before you get to the fork.

then just go that away for a bit.

Kit Z. Fox

@Mitch It's across from McNabb's, where the pool parlor used to be.

Mitch

And you'll see it immediately. If you cross into the other town (the border is not marked), you've gone too far.

Kit Z. Fox

2:31 PM

You know that place that got shut down because of the biker gang and meth lab thing and the standoff? It's right near there.

Kind of catty corner from the parking lot where they built the community garden.

Andrew Leach

I've no idea how I manage to ask all of you for directions. Every time.

tchrist

@Robusto You’re right that it’s usually used with negative reinforcement, but technically does not have to be. It might sound more formal to say "Nadie sabe..." than "No sabe nadie...". The other way to say it is "No hay nadie que sepa...".

Kit Z. Fox

I give good directions, but my brother is exceptional at it.

tchrist

I give left-right–reversed directions.

Kit Z. Fox

"It's technically the third left, but it's about 3.2 miles, so just as you get to the point where you will think that you've missed it, you'll see a big purple neon cross, and that's how you'll know you're on the right road still."

And he's exactly right.

tchrist

2:34 PM

You’ve found Purple Neon Jesus!

Kit Z. Fox

So black tea or green tea? Which do I feel like having?

@tchrist I always point in the direction when I say it, so people can tell me if I've got it wrong.

I have left-right confusion.

tchrist

Too me.

Kit Z. Fox

haha

It's not uncommon.

tchrist

Kit Z. Fox

Especially among early readers.

tchrist

2:36 PM

Oh really!?

I was one of those.

A Beautiful Mind

I just added some condensed milk to hot water.

Kit Z. Fox

@tchrist If I had to guess, it's because people like us have fluid frames of reference.

tchrist

But I’m left-handed, with many of the most commonly coöccurring rare traits that accompany that condition.

A Beautiful Mind

Me too, also left.

Kit Z. Fox

Hmm. That explains why I feel sinister when I picture you.

laughs at own joke

Now to put on the kettle.

tchrist

2:38 PM

My brain is likely less strongly differentiated into hemispheres than most right-handed males’ are.

A Beautiful Mind

But I am right-footed.

tchrist

I have the Trifecta Sinistra: left hand, left foot, left eye are all dominant.

A Beautiful Mind

I think I am right-eyed.

Kit Z. Fox

I'm a mish-mash, just like my sexuality.

tchrist

Mind you, I don’t have left–right reversal on beats vs rhythm.

I can tap out a tune’s beat with my left hand and its rhythm with my right hand, BUT NOT VICE VERSA.

Most people are this way.

Kit Z. Fox

2:40 PM

My eye dominance shifts depending on whether I'm wearing spectacles or contacts.

tchrist

Even musicians. But not drummers. Pardon me as I repeat myself.

Mitch

@KitZ.Fox I usually point directly as the crow flies, so they'll know where, despite all the twists and turns, where they'll end up. Like that guy's office on the third floor next to the kitchen? It's about ... there points about 60 degrees down and 30 to the right.

@KitZ.Fox It's toot uncommon.

tchrist

suite

A Beautiful Mind

@kit I will make a decision by the end of this week whether to restart meds and therapy.

Matt E. Эллен

Matthew Ellen

@MellenTheNerd

Programmer, drummer.

412 tweets, 34 followers, following 54 users

Robusto

2:42 PM

@MattE.Эллен So you are a Mellenhead.

Matt E. Эллен

yeah :D

tchrist

Rotate your foot clockwise and draw a number 6 in the air with your index finger.

Robusto

@tchrist Q. What do you call a guy who likes to hang out with musicians? A. A drummer.

The sentiment has been recorded in many jokes over the years.

tchrist

Comme j’ai dit.

Matt E. Эллен

It's more that musicians like to hang out with me, but sure.

Mitch

2:43 PM

@tchrist ??? what is this that you speak of? There's a difference? Reconsiders musical career

Robusto

@tchrist I know. What I said was supporting material.

tchrist

Larry wall does not have this issue. He can do beat in his right hand and rhythm in his left.

A Beautiful Mind

How do people play the piano? I cannot imagine. I can't do it.

tchrist

He likes to drum. But he’s actually a violinist by formative education. He can do the Bach for-solo-violin stuff that warps your brain.

Matt E. Эллен

usually with their hands

Robusto

2:45 PM

@tchrist Same for Elvin Jones.

tchrist

@MattE.Эллен If not, they’re organists.

A Beautiful Mind

I guess playing the piano is a kind of talent, like riding a bicycle, which I can't either.

Robusto

Elvin Jones

Elvin Ray Jones (September 9, 1927 – May 18, 2004) was a jazz drummer of the post-bop era. He showed an interest in drums at a young age, watching the circus bands march by his family's home in Pontiac, Michigan. He served in the United States Army from 1946 to 1949 and subsequently played in a Detroit houseband led by Billy Mitchell. He moved to New York in 1955 and worked as a sideman for Charles Mingus, Teddy Charles, Bud Powell and Miles Davis. From 1960 to 1966 he was a member of the John Coltrane quartet (along with Jimmy Garrison on bass and McCoy Tyner on piano), a celebrated recording...

@ABeautifulMind It's a little more than riding a bike.

tchrist

@ABeautifulMind 99% of the things you think you can’t do, you can’t do.

Robusto

> Elvin Jones' sense of timing, polyrhythms, dynamics, timbre, and legato phrasing brought the drumset to the foreground. Jones was touted by Life Magazine as "the world's greatest rhythmic drummer", and his free-flowing style was a major influence on many leading drummers.

A Beautiful Mind

2:47 PM

Rhythmic prostate massage, lol.

Robusto

It's not American or British or any other native speaker (including Indian). I would guess Italian or Spanish, but it could be others. — Robusto 46 secs ago

Mitch

@ABeautifulMind I agree. I think it is insane. "Look at that pale bald monkey moving his fingers around, and out comes this sound thing"

A Beautiful Mind

@Robusto Not an Asian accent.

Robusto

No.

It's not American or British or any other native speaker (including Indian). I would guess Italian or Spanish, but it could be others. — Robusto 2 mins ago

Mitch

@ABeautifulMind Oh. A bicycle is much easier.

Robusto

2:51 PM

@tchrist: Native Spanish speaker? ^

Having listened again I don't think he's Spanish.

A Beautiful Mind

There are so many languages, he could be anything.

Robusto

Part of me thinks he might be Swedish or Finnish, though.

A Beautiful Mind

I don't think any of us can really tell.

tchrist

Dutch.

Mitch

South Ehfrican?

Blow to the head?

tchrist

2:52 PM

Rather unkind to just post a random clip like this without saying who’s speaking.

A Beautiful Mind

I think the question is too subjective and should be closed.

Mitch

How is it subjective?

There is surely a distinct answer

A Beautiful Mind

Can anyone really give a definitive answer?

tchrist

Yes.

Guido Van Rossum - Keynote 05 - PyCon 2014

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Matt E. Эллен

exactly

I knew I recognised that voice

Mitch

2:55 PM

So Dutch?

Treat.

Dessert

Uncle

SO Dutch

That explains why I thought it might be Swedish.

I never think of Dutch.

Mitch

2:56 PM

It's easy to not think of them

A Beautiful Mind

You people seem to know many languages.

Kit Z. Fox

I think between us, we know all seven.

Robusto

We only know the languages we know, not the languages we don't know.

Mitch

@Robusto Not me

Robusto

Haha, someone thought it might be Japanese. Wrong!

Matt E. Эллен

2:57 PM

I don't know the languages you don't know

Mitch

I thought it was scandinavian, not continental at all.

unless you consider scandinavia part of the continent.

A Beautiful Mind

I was reading on how people who speak many languages study them.

Robusto

Scandinavian is technically continental, innit?

Jinx.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен You should get cracking then. Part of your education.

tchrist

Or Insular.

Robusto

2:58 PM

And yet his name is Guido. Was he originally Italian?

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch what languages don't you know?

Mitch

@Robusto but if you look at the map that I have, there's this big water thing in the way.

Robusto

@Mitch And yet you could get to Paris from Stockholm overland, no?

tchrist

@Robusto Maybe he has a Flemish branch. Ask @Cerb.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен There's at least one.

Matt E. Эллен

2:59 PM

@Mitch is it English? burn

Mitch

@Robusto Don't you have to change trains? That's the way I tell.

@tchrist Maybe his parents liked that name?

Robusto

Probably you'd take a ferry to Denmark, but you technically don't have to.

Íslenska

@MattE.Эллен Zing!

@tchrist You called?

3:00 PM

@Mitch You think someone likes the name Guido? I think it was probably a sick joke.

Mitch

Oh, you mean me. sunuva...

A Beautiful Mind

@Mitch Isn't the sound ding instead of zing?

tchrist

@AndrewLeach Little Fugue in Gm. I hate you.

Mitch

@Robusto Beowulf swam there. And see how old he is? Point proven.

Robusto

Actually, most people would probably fly to Paris.

Andrew Leach

3:01 PM

@tchrist Not all organists can play everything. I am one of those who can't.

Mitch

@Robusto Parents can be unwittingly cruel.

Or wittingly. bastards

Robusto

@AndrewLeach But you do use your feet. That is something. Well, two things.

tchrist

@AndrewLeach Hey, I wasn’t even talking about the Great Fugues, for which I also hate you.

Mitch

@ABeautifulMind sound of what?

A Beautiful Mind

@Mitch Meaning correct.

tchrist

3:02 PM

You can get these scored for piano, but well.

Andrew Leach

@Robusto This is true. It is something children find entertaining, for some reason.

Robusto

Who you calling a child?

Mitch

@tchrist ba ba, ba ba ba, ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba. Whew, the phrasing is hard on that one.

Robusto

Feb 16 '14 at 23:31, by Robusto

Bach used backbeat. ^

Andrew Leach

@Robusto Attempts to stop digging I wasn't. The people who sit on the floor fascinated around me when I'm playing at church happen to be children.

Robusto

3:04 PM

Is OK. I'm often childlike in the face of music.

Mitch

@ABeautifulMind Oh no. 'Zing' is not a sound. and it's not for getting an answer correct. it's more of a feeling. The feeling you get when the complement turns around and its tail hits you in the face with an insult.

@Robusto buh-Bach

tchrist

Compare organ:

Bach - Fugue in G minor BWV 578

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With piano:

Mitch

@Robusto I bet that makes music sort of uncomfortable.

tchrist

Johann Sebastian Bach: "Little" Fugue in G minor, BWV 578

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If you wish to be less distracted, here’s a simpler organ recording:

Johann Sebastian Bach - ''Little'' Fugue in G minor, BMV 578

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Mitch

@tchrist Oh please. It's no 'Freebird'.

Also, too many notes.

Andrew Leach

3:09 PM

I thought that was Mozart.

Damn. Now I've outed myself about watching that.

tchrist

@Mitch U+1F595

@AndrewLeach Too late. You already said organist. :)

Watching the pianist stomping on the bass notes with his feet is really quite amusing.

I am enraged.

They did the Bm this weekend WITHOUT TELLING ME!

dailycamera.com/entertainment/classicalmusic/ci_27615440/…

Mitch

Шедевр!
Прекрасно!
Маты!
матерщи́на!

tchrist

Johann Sebastian Bach's, Fugue in G minor BWV 578 piano solo sheet music - Video Score

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I promise Bach did not write r.h. and l.h.

Obviously that piano score is not the one played by the guy with his feet on the keyboard.

It looks like it was arranged for one of those tiny keyboards.

He was playing this arrangement.

Perhaps.

At least it has the doubled octaves in the bass.

A Beautiful Mind

4:14 PM

Is it lunch time there @kit?

Robusto

4:33 PM

@tchrist The phrasing is a little sloppy, IMO.

I don't really care for "romanticized" tempi and phrasing in Bach.

A Beautiful Mind

Bach is a musician and Banach is a mathematician, interesting.

Robusto

J.S. Bach - Fugue G-minor "Little", BWV 578 (Helmut Walcha)

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Walcha is my main man when we're talking Orgelwerke.

A Beautiful Mind

Banana is my favourite fruit.

Robusto

But can it play Bach?

A Beautiful Mind

No. I think I am improving at being non sequitur.

Robusto

4:38 PM

I don't think you have anything left to teach us about non sequitur.

A Beautiful Mind

The spammer Nortonn S is gone, it seems.

Robusto

Happiness... Is Not a Fish That You Can Catch

Happiness... Is Not a Fish That You Can Catch is the third studio album by Canadian alternative rock band Our Lady Peace. It was released on September 21, 1999 by Columbia Records. The album was very successful in Canada, debuting at #1 on the Canadian Albums Chart. The album was certified 3x Platinum in July 2001. Hit singles from the album include "One Man Army", "Is Anybody Home?", and "Thief". The final track on the CD, "Stealing Babies", features Elvin Jones, a famous jazz drummer who died in 2004. The photo shoot for this album took place around Staten Island in New York State. == B...

terdon

@Robusto What? Great, now you tell me. I already spent 100 bucks on a new fishing rod.

A Beautiful Mind

What is that about?

Robusto

@terdon Would you be happy if I told you you could return it for a refund?

A Beautiful Mind

4:41 PM

I don't fish.

Robusto

What have you got to lose?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, Bad keyword in body, Phone number detected: vashikaran specialist molvi ji +918295003531 by ajmer sarrif on english.stackexchange.com

terdon

@Robusto I would! So, happiness is a fish you don't catch!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

And hello!

Robusto

Heya @cornbread

A Beautiful Mind

4:44 PM

I don't eat corn or bread.

Robusto

@terdon The journey is the reward.

@ABeautifulMind You don't know what you're missing. Put the two together with maple syrup or chili . . . ahh

Matt E. Эллен

maple chili syrup

A Beautiful Mind

Aha. Here we spell it as chilli.

Robusto

Anything to bring the temperature down, eh?

A Beautiful Mind

It's hotter in my room at 3 am than at 9 am, weird.

Like I said, I think it's because the water tanks above give off heat acquired in the day.

I think for the same reason, the sea might be cooler to swim in in the day than at night, sometimes.

Anyway, I only swam in the sea once, and the next day I got rashes all over.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

4:52 PM

@Rob Have you read McTeague?

terdon

@Robusto As the airline told its passengers when they missed their connection.

Robusto

5:28 PM

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I have not.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Robusto it's fantastic.

Robusto

5:47 PM

I'll have a look.

Kit Z. Fox

6:38 PM

@ABeautifulMind It was. I just came back.

A Beautiful Mind

I just woke up from a nap.

Kit Z. Fox

Naps are nice.

I'm going to have one in a little while.

Mitch

7:03 PM

The only problem with naps is the waking up.

Stack Exchange

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A Beautiful Mind

7:25 PM

@KitZ.Fox Are you working from home?

Kit Z. Fox

@ABeautifulMind I am sick today.

So I'm working from home even though I should be sleeping instead.

A Beautiful Mind

7:49 PM

@KitZ.Fox Oh dear, you seem to fall sick often these days.

Kit Z. Fox

I've been sick for most of the winter.

A Beautiful Mind

Is it weather related?

Kit Z. Fox

I don't know.

A Beautiful Mind

OK. Don't work too hard then.

I fall sick about once a year I think.

Interesting that John Nash is 86 and still working as a mathematician. It's really a miracle.

Kit Z. Fox

@Matt has returned, so now I will stop working and write.

A Beautiful Mind

7:54 PM

What has writing got to do with Matt?

Oh, maybe you like to discuss writing with him.

Kit Z. Fox

in The Overlook Hotel, 1 hour ago, by Kit Z. Fox

I'm going to work until Matt returns.

Just because.

A Beautiful Mind

I think I will go there now and spy on you.

Kit Z. Fox

You could, but I was planning to take it offline.

As they say.

A Beautiful Mind

Matt is very quiet.

Mitch

8:24 PM

I'm quiet.

Dammit! Ruined the streak, again.

tchrist

Ray Stevens - The Streak (Original)

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Robusto

Ahab the Arab - Ray Stevens

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It was a simpler time.

Mitch

Time only went one direction back then. Now with time travel, we haven't yet seen what has already happened.

Matt E. Эллен

I'm not really here at all

tchrist

@Robusto It sure seemed like it. That I even remember it seems to suggest I wasn’t fully enjoying it, however.

Do I misunderstand?

@tchrist Choosing names for variables and classes in computer code is definitely off-topic, but I don't see why asking for suggestions for a label in the user interface would be off-topic. — 200_success 7 mins ago

Choosing UI element names is about ELU?

Mitch

8:43 PM

@MattE.Эллен I just hear the rustling of leaves.

They're very quiet because the wind is low and the leaves are buried under 7 feet of snow.

tchrist

Only at the front of the driveway!

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch I hope russel is alright

terdon

@MattE.Эллен He's hanging with his friend Bob in the pool.

tchrist

What do people name things Serialio and risk confusing people with Seraglio?

Robusto

9:14 PM

@tchrist The '50s sucked, the '60s were a slight improvement, and the '70s went back into the dumper. And then the '80s plumbed the depths. I think things started to get better with the advent of the Internet, but this is debatable. In many ways, things keep going to hell in a handcart.

@tchrist Trying to get a contact high from a Mozart reference, maybe?

Mr. Bultitude

9:59 PM

Anyone know where I could find a modern English version of King James' Counterblaste to Tobacco? (And would that be an on-topic question for this site?)

Mitch

10:27 PM

@Mr.Bultitude Without knowing ahead of time, that totally sounds like you're trolling!

There are lots of 'translations' of Shakespeare, but that is taught at American and English schools where students are too young to understand. At the point where the 'Counterblaste' might be read, the student is probably at the level where they can deal with it by the usual scholarly means (dictionary etc). Which is all to say that I searched on line and couldn't find anything.

Mr. Bultitude

@Mitch I've read portions of it, but English literature (and related stuff) is not by any means a professional endeavor of mine (nor related at all to my degree), so I prefer works I can digest more quickly and easily. I also think that, as a matter of historical interest, the Counterblaste to Tobacco needs to be more well-known, and it won't get that way by remaining untranslated. Like it or not, it's not just age that prevents people from jumping into archaic texts.

@Mitch So, would asking for help finding a modern English version be on-topic for this SE site?

crl

10:43 PM

I've finished my connect-four :)

A Beautiful Mind

10:55 PM

@crl Hi.

crl

11:09 PM

@ABeautifulMind Hi Jasp, how is it?

A Beautiful Mind

@crl Hmm, I have been thinking how to solve my mental problems. Next month, I might do some weird things to achieve that.

crl

Yes, what is it?

Cross the sea by swimming, to Indonesia?

A Beautiful Mind

Well, it's hard to describe.

crl

make a sketch then

Hmm I'd need a touch screen

Just kidding, good luck anyway Jasper

A Beautiful Mind

@crl Thanks, your luck will surely make me win.

crl

11:30 PM

Well, I didn't have luck recently (those damn lobotomic antipsychotics)

A Beautiful Mind

@crl Good luck. My luck will surely make you win.

crl

2 bad luck cancel each other, no worry

I didn't know cornbreadninja麵包忍者 was a woman, I checked her home page

A Beautiful Mind

Yes, she is a woman.

crl

"an experienced writer with a technical and creative background"

Mitch

@Mr.Bultitude I think it should be. Try it and see.

SmokeDetector

11:41 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating words in answer: intro- vs. intra- by Dick Ballzack on english.stackexchange.com

A Beautiful Mind

I actually don't like this SmokeDetector.

crl

you can hide its posts

A Counterblaste to Tobacco

A Counterblaste to Tobacco is a treatise written by King James VI of Scotland and I of England in 1604, in which he expresses his distaste for tobacco, particularly tobacco smoking. As such, it is one of the earliest anti-tobacco publications. == Style and content == It is written in Early Modern English and refers to medical theories of the time (e.g. the four humours). In it, James blames Native Americans for bringing tobacco to Europe, complains about passive smoking, warns of dangers to the lungs, and decries tobacco's odour as "hatefull to the nose." == Effects and legacy == James's dislike...

@Mr.Bultitude agreed, I'm particularly fumiphobic

this is just a slow (Arsenic, etc..) death, while people are more afraid by

fast effects

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