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2:58 AM

Nice catch!

Co Koder

Hi all

Hi

Co Koder

You did not call me in the last two days from 01/31/2015 to 02/01/2015.

Is that correct sentence?

I would say "You didn't call me for two days from .,.

3:20 AM

Jan 15 at 2:57, by Robusto

Pats 31, Seattle 27 in SB

@infinitesimal I called the 4-point delta.

And let the rest of the country moan. Pats win, Pats win, Pats win!

Congrats @Robusto

Thanks.

Great game.

What a bizarre game, though. What was Carroll doing calling a slant on 1st and goal with 20 seconds left?

Live by the sword...

3:23 AM

Well, their sword was their running back.

Yep

Still, the Pats couldn't lose on another fluke catch.

That would have been manifestly unfair.

True.

4 rings for B & B.

The first dynasty of the new millennium

3:43 AM

With a familiar theme

Hanaa

6:38 AM

Hi!

9:47 AM

@MattE.Эллен I demand the limerick machine be suspended for spamming the chatroom :D

10:02 AM

guys, if you had to pay monthly fee to use Reddit, would you still use it?

No

As a return, you won't see any ads.

Still no

Let's say it's only 5 dollars a month

Not even a penny for what I can get for free.

10:04 AM

how about Youtube?

Nope

I'd pay for Youtube though.

Perhaps Wikipedia

Or iTunes U

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10:09 AM

iTunes U is the best resource I have found @JasonMarsh

Is it about online lectures? I've personally never been on to that thing before.

Yes

750,000 of them

Nice

Definitely worth having a look at.

I think a problem with those online lectures is that it's a set of resources made difficult to use them like references or guides when you are working on your project or something.

I like my book Algorithms In Nutshell by O'Reilly for that reason because it's one of the easiest desktop reference that you can use it like a dictionary.

10:17 AM

That is definitely one of the outstanding features of a good textbook.

Plus, online lectures tend to make contents they teach easy as possible. I think it's due to they are not alone in the market, they always have competitions going on with other online tutorial websites.

So most of the time, their lessons are too simple and aren't detailed at all.

Matt E. Эллен

@infinitesimal sorry about that! Reblogged to the wrong account

No problem pal @MattE.Эллен I was just having fun with you :D

Online lecturing sites gain more reputation by teaching something as simple as possible, on the other hand, books get popular by having detailed and exact contents as possible.

That is my opinion

So I'd prefer books but sometimes online lecturing sites when I'm bored.

10:32 AM

There are no royal roads to reading a well written textbook.

Hanaa

10:44 AM

Hi everyone

Is here a native speaker?

11:20 AM

Yes, this is a native speaker, how can I help you?

12:30 PM

@JasonMarsh You don't sound like a native speaker to me.

@MattE.Эллен Where are you?

Hello @Mitch.

Hey

Chinese New Year is in two weeks.

Hello @kit.

Hi, @ABeautifulMind.

I'm going to solve mazes with that: jsfiddle.net/h661n2g6/10

My mum has some swollen lymph nodes, went to see doctor today, hope it is not serious.

12:42 PM

@ABeautifulMind Probably just a cold.

Yeah, the last thing I want to happen now is for either of us to get a serious physical illness.

If that happens, we are pretty much screwed.

@KitZ.Fox How is your bronchitis now?

Hard to tell with the head cold.

I see you are clearing the stars.

It's all now more than one.

My mum is back, I will have dinner now, later.

see you

1:34 PM

I love tapenade.

stuffs face

I just ate some noodles.

how is your mum?

Well, the doctor gave some antibiotics. It seems the swelling has reduced today.

great!

Did I tell you before that my father has a serious physical illness now?

1:42 PM

I don't recall that you mentioned that.

How do you feel about that?

I don't really feel sorry for him though. He has rheumatoid arthritis.

I still have very deep feelings of hatred for him.

But on some days, I feel some compassion for him.

I'd feel pretty conflicted if I found out my mother had a serious illness.

I was about to use the word conflicted myself.

Mostly because I would feel like I should care, and I wouldn't.

Anyway he is staying with his sister who also gives him money, so that's good.

1:44 PM

If you could possess one of the following mythical weapons, which one would you pick?
1) Equalizer - A magical hammer forged 9,000,000 years ago that if you hit someone with it, the person will change to a black person. If the person is already black, it won't do anything.

2) Dagger of youth - if you stab someone with it, the guy will go back to a stage of his life when he was 5 years ago.

Except that I would care as much as I would care about bad things happening to anyone, generally speaking.

@JasonMarsh That smacks of racism, and isn't really an appropriate topic of conversation here.

2

ok sorry

@JasonMarsh I pick the dagger of youth. I want to reverse time to right the wrongs.

I'd pick Equalizer because it's much more fun

Me too. Then I'd go around whacking rednecks over the head.

I hate Illinois Nazis

1:50 PM

@JasonMarsh I am guessing you are a teenager. Am I right?

Nah, Im 23. I was recently discharged from Marines.

Good good. What are your plans?

I want to accumulate some money to establish a garage start-up

Good good. I wish you all the best.

Thanks

The start-up is going to be about transaction of memory in your head

1:54 PM

What?

you can trade your knowledge with your mate for 10 bucks, for example.

2:22 PM

@Jason: I don't think what you said is necessarily racist. Such a "tool" might be used to acquaint oblivious people to actual racism, in fact. Don't be put off by overly PC reactions (unless you in fact did mean it to be racist).

2:36 PM

indeed that was not so racist as I first thought

but that still looks racist, and his absence of response is not reassuring

2:54 PM

@JasonMarsh What would be the point of changing them to black? And how is 5 years taking anybody back to their youth? And what's with the violent hammer and knife..can't you just tap them on the shoulder or something?

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[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Is there a casual way to say "this can wait" on a positive note by pavlo on english.stackexchange.com

@tchrist: Suddenly rsync -vau isn't working, even though I have verified that the target file is more recent than the destination file. Any thoughts?

@Robusto Moment.

For the moment, I’m really pissed off at all the downvotes here:

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A: Uniqueness vs. Unicity

All three of uniqueness, uniquity, and unicity are attested by the OED, each with several centuries of citations. There is no especially difference in meaning between them. Here’s what you should therefore do: Use uniquity only when you wish to rhyme with such words as iniquity, or when you w...

Like, what the fuck is wrong with that answer?

Beyond typos.

@Robusto How is it failing?

It's not copying the changed files over.

2:59 PM

@Robusto Are they the same size?

@tchrist Dunno. I provided some mitigation just now.

@Robusto What are the filesystems involved?

@tchrist No.

Are the two machines’ clocks in perfect sync?

@tchrist Maybe people don't understand what the OED is. If so, they don't get that you explain that all three are "real" words.

3:01 PM

@terdon FMH

@terdon It's always worked in the past. Just this morning it decides to come up zeroes.

What's the difference between multicity and multiplicity?

one is used by normal people, the other not

@crl Multicity means that something applies to multiple cities.

@tchrist oh totally different, ok

@Mitch :))

3:06 PM

> “We need a multicity solution to our traffic problems during rush hour.”

multitenant multicity solution

And multiëthnic

pluriethnic is more common no?

A multipolitan solution, just to keep the Greeks cringing.

@Robusto Weird. I would guess that the clocks are wrong as suggested by tchrist. Have you tried using -c to have rsync run a checksum?

3:08 PM

ah I see, you're pissing off Greeks

STOP THAT!

@Robusto This has happened to me before, but it’s always been for a bunch of different reasons.

@crl And parrots.

@Robusto you could always try asking on Unix & Linux.

and parrots

Θέλω ένα μπισκότο!

3:10 PM

Greeks and parrots of course prefer polypolitan to multicity.

@terdon I tried that. No joy.

@Robusto Really? Does md5sum return the same result on both files?

Are you running this from the command line or indirectly such as through cron, some daemon, or a CGI-triggered process?

I presume you are using the simple CLI invocation, not one requiring remote daemons.

Command line.

rsync -vau dir/file otherhost:dirname

3:13 PM

rsync -vau [sourcedir] [destinationdir]

@terdon Not -c: it’s -C or --checksum.

@Robusto Are these on different machines?

No.

Ok, closer.

Are they actually different directories — and are you sure?

@terdon Oh, why was I thinking big C not little C? D’oh. Ignore me.

@crl not in English.

No idea. Perhaps it's C on BSD.

3:15 PM

Are there things in sourcedir missing from destdir?

@tchrist Yes, I am sure.

Try using more -v's.

-vvau or even if all else fails, -vvvau

Hold on, I think the file system for the source might have changed when I pulled the latest this morning. Maybe that is the problem.

@terdon Parrots are called 'Thelo' in Greece?

@Mitch That was I want a cracker in Greek. I was hoping google translate would aid y'all.

3:19 PM

Ha ha! I tried to wing it.

Like a parrot.

:)

Looks like my IDE, which before had updated from src to target is no longer doing that, and I'm using rsync to copy target to deployment. So that's why it doesn't work.

Why that suddenly stopped happening I can't say.

Things work in mysterious ways.

@ABeautifulMind Have you done some Mathematica?

Parrot is actually παπαγάλος, presumably from the same latin origins as the Spanish papagayo.

3:23 PM

@crl No, I don't use it.

@crl I don't use any math software, other than LaTeX.

hmm ok, it looks fun and powerful for Maths, oh Latex is compulsory!

Using pstricks one can plot all kinds of graphs.

@terdon And Italian.

Last night I felt terribly anxious, but right now, all the anxiety has subsided, for the time being. Again, very mysterious. I did not do anything or eat anything special.

and German

3:27 PM

@Mitch Die Zauberflöte?

It is interesting that banana and papaya have similar spellings.

@terdon So that's where Papageno comes from in Die Zauberflöte.

Well, if it's magic, then -anything- can happen

Apropos of nothing, or rather 'parrot', "The German naturalist Alexander von Humboldt in South America in 1800 encountered a very old parrot that was the sole speaker of a dead Indian language, the original tribe having gone extinct."

4

The last speaker of a language was a parrot? I don't know who should feel bad about that.

@Mitch I wonder if the parrot really knows the language or just parrots words.

Apparently not the parrot

3:31 PM

Do parrots eat carrots?

@ABeautifulMind I've always heard that they were just parroting the words

But I feel like recently research has shown that some birds (maybe not parrots) who can repeat human language actually use the words with some minimal intelligence

The life form that bit me has returned. I now seriously doubt it is a mosquito.

I have been searching for it all over my bedroom but still cannot find it.

@Mitch Humans are not much smarter than parrots.

@Mitch And they can do abstract problem-solving.

@Mitch Damn, I was hoping your link was an article about that. Sounds very interesting.

There was a parrot in my school that used to make noise for hours continually.

3:39 PM

@ABeautifulMind Yes, I had a few teachers like that too.

@terdon I used to be a teacher for a while. The students would not stop making noise, which is one reason I quit.

@terdon It is very rare for a mod of site X to frequent a room of site Y. In your case.

Wow, I suddenly feel so peaceful and calm, as if I just took some weed.

@ABeautifulMind Not rare at all. Both Oliver and Caleb who are here now are mods on SU and Christianity respectively. Also, I was coming here long before I was elected.

@terdon They come here but they do NOT talk.

They’ll talk if you kick them.

I kicked them many times.

3:47 PM

I think not.

No, not often. Nevertheless, many of us hang out on multiple sites. I'm active on U&L, AU, SU, Biology and to a lesser extent SU and SciFi as well as here. I'm often in their respective chat rooms.

I might feel panic again the next hour, but I really don't know why I am so calm now. That is why I am repeating this statement.

Plus, the conversations here tend to be particularly fun or interesting.

I’m talking about that brief conniption caused by an actual mod-kick, or in this case, a mod–mod-kick.

So now we have an ant and a fox in this room.

3:51 PM

And a small, if shiny, plastic man.

4:05 PM

@terdon I know! A sode comment like that in a reference is just too tantalizing.

@Robusto Birds in the crow family are supposed to be able to do that...I thought parrots weren't supposed to be as bright.

But I was mistaken: "Parrots, along with ravens, crows, jays and magpies, are among the most intelligent birds," because they're in a close enough family.

@tchrist Ow! OW! Who's kicking me under the table?

Oops sorry, I was having a conniption fit. causes cramps in the legs.

Not as bad as a tizfit

@EdwinAshworth Apparently subtlety is subappreciated here. I could have written to write a simple-minded one-liner answer hidden in a comment that blunderbusses people with Prescriptivist Commandment CCLIV (“Thou shalt uniquely use uniqueness and stop asking questions.”) , which would have set the GR close-voters upon this question. Is that what the Community desires? — tchrist 1 min ago

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@tchrist ¿Qué?

@Robusto If one were to kick our silent alien mods, they might finally notice us. (Actually, one says ¿Cómo? in that situation, no matter what you may have “learned” from watching Fawlty Towers. :)

Muchas gracias

De rien.

Wait, wrong language.

De nada.

4:17 PM

Thinking in two languages again?

Conversationally, the de in de nada tends to get dropped.

@infinitesimal Pasan estas cosas even in the very best of familles.

@Mitch I chased down a few references to the parrot thing.

There are conflicting details.

Some say the Maypure tribe was extinct and the Carrib tribe had their parrot. Humboldt's journals record Maypure words but don't mention parrots. Others say it was the Atures tribe that was extinct. Humboldt's journals mention a parrot nobody could understand at a place called "Maypures".

People just repeat things. And then badly. So you never know if the original is mistaken or if the further rewordings inserted wrongness.

Whether or not the Maypures were the same as the Atures... who knows.

@Mitch Cf. Eskimos have n words for snow.

4:21 PM

"A parrot nobody could understand" repeating words from a language no one alive speaks any more.

@Mitch yes, the people there supposedly claimed it was from a neighbouring tribe.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 'Maybure' us the Atures word for "I don't know who you're talking about"

@Robusto at least that many.

@Mitch That would be the Pope’s Pappagallo muttering away in Ecclesiastical Latin.

@tchrist I feel like I'm channeling a lost chapter of 'The Name of the Rose'

The Humboldt's Dead (language) Parrot Sketch

4:24 PM

Nice. "floored understanding of an over-imaginative historian of generations gone by."

What is a 'floored understanding'?

a cooperation of 'flawed'?

heh

I didn't notice that, I just skimmed it.

> ‘A tradition circulates among the Guahiboes, that the warlike Atures, pursued by the Caribbees, escaped to the rocks that rise in the middle of the Great Cataracts; and there that nation, heartofore so numerous, became gradually extinct, as well as it’s language. The last families of the Atures still existed in 1767, in the time of the missionary Gili. At the period of our voyage an old parrot was shown at Maypures, of which the inhabitants related, and the fact is worthy of observation that ‘they did not understand what it said, because it spoke the language of the Atures’.

That's supposedly from von Humboldt's journals

The solution: just add 'In the following legend,....' to everything. So no one is telling a lie.

Except people will eventually drop the 'legend' part and accept it as history.

In the following legend, how was your weekend?

Exactly!

So how was it?

good I hope, in legend!

In the following legend, I was asking you.

4:30 PM

Did you see the pats game? It was legendary!

Wait, that really did happen didn't it? THere's tape!

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It was legendary, of course.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 In the following legend, I floored through the air, and ignored answering you. Legendarily, I ate only fried foods. A full fried foods festive football ... um ... fete.

Oh right it was some sports-related weekend.

As legendary as the the tuck rule.

Yes, I've heard, in legend of course, that sports happen most weekends.

@infinitesimal OK...what does that mean, in legend from times past?

4:33 PM

Yep @Mitch

The pats are officially a dynasty.

They were one before they won yesterday.

Not officially.

Now we all know.

Do the Pats pat each other all the time?

Only a dynasty can break that kind of defense.

Move over steelers there is a new member in your club.

What game are you talking about?

4:39 PM

Super Bowl.

Is that bowling?

American football

Ah OK. I did not know you watch that, since you are not from US.

@ABeautifulMind you didn't know skull watches US football?!?!?!?

Skullpatrol represents the dark side of all sports.

4:41 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I forget stuff I guess.

All sports.

I think I know skull's location, but I will keep it a secret for his sake.

@infinitesimal Who's going to win the cricket world cup? and what's the spread going to be?

Don't answer that!

:D

@infinitesimal You are in ****** right?

4:44 PM

I am in the black hole

I don't watch much TV. Most movies are heavily censored anyway.

Only the infinitesimal can exist there

@infinitesimal If the team stays healthy, watch them try to go 19-0 next year.

Possible.

@infinitesimal Meaning "the Bay area" . . . ?

4:46 PM

Yes.

I am in a Bay area as well, more or less.

Hudson's Bay?

Massachusetts Bay Colony

The Massachusetts Bay Colony was an English settlement on the east coast of North America (Massachusetts Bay) in the 17th century, in New England, situated around the present-day cities of Salem and Boston. The territory administered by the colony included much of present-day central New England, including portions of the U.S. states of Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Connecticut. Territory claimed but never administered by the colonial government extended as far west as the Pacific Ocean. The colony was founded by the owners of the Massachusetts Bay Company, which included...

I go to Marina Bay.

I know pal, I'm just having some fun with the champ.

4:50 PM

The champ, or the chimp? =)

Breaking that defense made up for what the Giants did to them.

Let the healing begin.

Healing is what I try to do every day.

It takes time.

Marina Bay Sands is the most expensive building in the world, you know right?

They say time heals all wounds...

4:57 PM

@infinitesimal what about fatal wounds?

Is it possible to survive a fatal wound?

If you die, then the wound was fatal.

Time heals most emotional wounds.

Given enough time.

Jez

5:12 PM

gah, i really hate working with TFS and not Git

i want to delta my changes off another guy's work, but with TFS it means unshelving his stuff and making my own changes that get added into the mix, making an unholy mess

5:30 PM

@ABeautifulMind really? How many floors? why is it so expensive?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 the bacteria will take care of the surrounding tissue.

@infinitesimal People forget.

@infinitesimal There's also "Time wounds all heels"

Yes, memories fade...

If you're a heel, no amount of time will fix that.

But they'll be wounded

@infinitesimal W00t!

Congrats @KitZ.Fox

1 hour ago, by infinitesimal

Move over steelers there is a new member in your club.

That was a hell of a game.

I've never seen the Pats win a Superbowl, so that was extra special.

5:45 PM

Never?

Never.

The hawks have now lost to two dynasties

I walked into a bar in February 2002 to discover that they had just won, literally I think two minutes prior. I didn't know it was Superbowl time, nor that the Pats were in it. My mind was boggled.

@infinitesimal They played really well.

Yes.

George Pompidou

represent represent!

was rooting for the Chicago sports team in the big match last night

they didn't win... but then they didn't lose either so I'm fine with that.

6:02 PM

I'm really happy for you.

@Mitch Because it's really many buildings connected into one.

George Pompidou

everyone really kinda thought I was crazy, so it wasn't all that nice

my defense is that Seattle is kind of hood, and New England isn't even a city, it's just a big general region, why does that whole thing have one sports team? that makes no sense to me. so I can't support either of those bunk ass teams.

Chitown 4 lyfe