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I read about it! Nice.
 
4:41 PM
I am thinking of getting either Oxford Advanced American Dictionary or Merriam-Webster's Advanced Learner's Dictionary for American English. Any tips on which of the two to choose?
 
Anonymous
Check them out online
 
@snailboat Yes, I already did that, but just asking for personal opinions.
 
Anonymous
@tchrist Some linguists argue that conversion is a better term than zero derivation because the latter implies adding a zero morpheme, which they view as unnecessary theoretical baggage, while conversion implies the word simply hopping from one category to the next.
 
Anonymous
But I think zero derivation is less confusing
 
Anonymous
Because it's an unambiguous name
 
Anonymous
4:57 PM
And I don't really care about the theoretical arguments one way or the other
 
5:36 PM
OK @Robusto I will take the NY Jets -2.5, I need to make-up for that mis-call on TB :-)
 
6:07 PM
@snailboat I have decided to get MW, thanks.
 
hey
Do anyone one have any idea about synfig?
 
Anonymous
@WillHunting Hooray!
 
Anonymous
I have a couple learner's dictionaries on my electronic dictionary
 
Anonymous
(It's designed for native speakers of Japanese, which I'm not, so it includes some materials designed for learners of English)
 
@snailboat I don't like MW Collegiate because it does not use IPA!
 
Anonymous
6:09 PM
@WillHunting Macmillan is a good online source for IPA transcriptions of both AmE and BrE
 
@snailboat And I purposely got an American Eng dictionary since I intend to move there, lol. Though that may not happen...
 
6:59 PM
@snailboat 'zero' is misleading as you note, and much more misleading than conversion. I'd go so far as to say that yes it is theoretical baggage, but misguided theory. There's no invisible unspoken morpheme there going from clean as an adjective to clean as a verb. It just is.
 
Anonymous
@Mitch I agree that there's no reason to posit a zero morpheme, although it's not really falsifiable so I'm reluctant to say it's actually wrong
 
Anonymous
I do avoid saying "zero article"
 
Anonymous
7:18 PM
"Conversion" seems so . . . non-specific
 
8:01 PM
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Q: Hypernym of both "move" and "copy"?

wannagotopopeyesIs there a verb to describe something that can both "move" and "copy", but in a single word/phrase?

Prolly closeable as a software-disguised-as-English question?
 
8:55 PM
Why is closing so important?
 
9:45 PM
posted on September 22, 2014 by sgdi

There once were three slices of bread That someone had stuck to their head They said they weren’t there Despite all their hair Having fallen out while they’re in bed

 
10:14 PM
Hi @StoneyB
 
user116848
hi skull and others :D
 
hi pal
and others
:D
 
user116848
hah :-)
 
@Arrowfar do you watch Monday Night football?
 
user116848
@IceBoy No :-) But I love sports overall you know.
 
10:26 PM
icic
 
user116848
@IceBoy Before joining here I didn't even know that Raiders existed :-)
 
user116848
But I do now!
 
Orly?
 
user116848
What is Orly?
 
Oh Really
 
user116848
10:29 PM
Ah, yes.
 
This song defines the raiders
 
user116848
@IceBoy Yes, I have watched some videos of Raiders that you share here.
 
:D
 
user116848
I didn't know they had too many 'fans'.
 
Not now a days, but they were huge in the 70/80's
 
user116848
10:32 PM
So why the decline since 70s?
 
No one stays at the top forever.
 
user116848
Oh, that. I see. So Oakland Raiders are average nowadays as compared to before?
 
@Arrowfar Yes, they are well below average today... The teams are ordered and the last place team picks first in the draft the next year.
 
user116848
I see. So that is how they work.
 
Yep, in all pro sports.
 
Anonymous
10:37 PM
@snailboat You want to post a phone number so people can call you for help when reading something written in snailboatese rather than standard received English? — Deke Thomas 26 secs ago
 
user116848
@snailboat LOL
 
Anonymous
I wonder where he received it from.
 
Anonymous
Well, apparently from Random House.
 
user116848
@snailboat received what?
 
Anonymous
@Arrowfar English!
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
It was a joke.
 
user116848
I know what "received" means Duh
 
Anonymous
Oh, my apologies.
 
user116848
Oh, no need for that, snail :)
 
user116848
@IceBoy So 49ers and Falcons etc. are at top these days, right? (Sorry, I had to google it :-) )
 
10:45 PM
@Arrowfar Yes, but only 3 games have been played out of 16
 
user116848
Hm I see.
 
Football is a game of staying injury free after all those brutal hits they take.
 
user116848
Yes, definitely. Looks dangerous too sometimes :-)
 
user116848
@IceBoy You play football for fun?
 
Anonymous
10:49 PM
@IceBoy Probably not possible
 
Anonymous
It's not just the big hits, but all the little ones
 
@Arrowfar I used to play in high school.
@snailboat I agree.
 
user116848
@IceBoy So me, I am used to calling this sport "Rugby" and UKs soccer "football" :-) But I know "football" can mean both.
 
@Arrowfar American football came from "Rugby"
soccer = association football
 
user116848
11:01 PM
@IceBoy I see. So you guys don't call it 'Rugby' nowadays?
 
Oh, we're talking about the origin of a couple of sports, I guess.
 
user116848
No, just sports talk :)
 
Rugby is not the same as American Football!
 
Definitely not!
 
@AndrewLeach Came from
 
11:02 PM
My brother got his shoulder dislocated once because of the rugby.
 
@AndrewLeach like baseball came from cricket
 
user116848
@DamkerngT. Oh, no! Ouch!
 
@IceBoy Probably. But all of that protective gear is outlawed in Rugby.
@IceBoy Baseball is much more like rounders than cricket.
 
icic
 
user116848
@AndrewLeach So, the sport with the gif above you call that "Rugby"?
 
user116848
11:04 PM
And hi Andrew
 
No, that's American Football.
 
user116848
I see.
 
Rugby has no protective gears. Like, at all.
 
Rugby has no PPE and is less airborne.
(Possibly not much less airborne, but challenges tend to be ground-based)
 
My brother usually said, "moving forward inch by inch".
 
11:06 PM
@Arrowfar They also have an international world cup of rugby, not like american football that only has the super bowl
 
Anyway: lightning visit. It's midnight and I'm off to bed.
 
Also, in rugby, they scrum a lot.
 
later @AndrewLeach
 
Rest well!
 
user116848
See ya! @AndrewLeach :)
 
user116848
11:09 PM
@IceBoy I see. Thanks god I learned the difference here than any other place outside lol I mix up UKs and Americans styles a lot. :-)
 
@Arrowfar Thanks for asking :-)
 
user116848
I know :-)
 
I think Australian football is a bit different from American football. Not sure.
 
The Australian's game is very similar to the british rugby game.
American football is unique to America and Canada
 
We have its variant, flag football, here!
 
11:15 PM
yep, all the running and no hitting :-)
 
LOL -- It could be fun, though.
 
it looks fun
trying to pull the flag off
 
I think someone started it here around six or seven years ago. It's probably originated somewhere else, perhaps the US.
But NFL is definitely the origin of flag football.
 
yes, it has been around in the US for many years
 
A small quiz: Which country do you think is the country of origin of American Fried Rice?
 
11:20 PM
Korea?
 
Three guesses. Try again. :)
 
Thia land?
 
Hooray! That's the correct answer!
 
I googled :(
 
I still can't tell which country is the origin of fortune cookie.
 
11:25 PM
Japan?
 
Some said that, but others said the US. :)
 
Ask on an Asian.SE
 
Anonymous
@IceBoy Well, that's what Wikipedia says
 
Just a guess :-)
 
Anonymous
Interesting guess. I think most people here would naively guess China rather than Japan
 
Anonymous
11:27 PM
Just because of the association with Chinese restaurants in America
 
Anonymous
I've never gotten a fortune cookie from a Japanese restaurant
 
Me neither.
 
@snailboat Have you ever gotten one from a Chinese restaurant that switched your body with someone else (like in Freaky Friday)?
 
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Um . . . is this a trick question? :-)
 
No. It was just a plain question. :)
 
Anonymous
11:30 PM
What's Freaky Friday?
 
Fortune cookie usually reminds me of that movie.
A mom and a daughter went to a Chinese restaurant together. They both received their fortune cookies, and they switched their bodies!
 
Anonymous
Oh! I'm not familiar with that movie
 
Jamie Lee Curtis was the mom and Lindsay Lohan was the daughter.
 
user116848
11:50 PM
@DamkerngT. haha That's ridiculous Damk :D
 
user116848
Yes, I watched that too I guess
 
user116848
Looks like a cheap storyline lol
 
It was actually quite good, imo. I think the producer must've taken "put yourself in other's shoes" too literally. :-)
 
user116848
Yes, from that perspective it looks good.
 
user116848
I don't remember it quite well though.
 
11:56 PM
It's not an action movie, so I guess there was no scene that would really be a high impact scene.
 
user116848
haha Very true
 
I think it had a few emotional scenes.
 
user116848
Like?
 
Maybe just one. I can remember one.
The mom was about to get married. But the daughter was still trapped in her mother's body.
 
user116848
That is sorta yucky
 
11:58 PM
So the mother, who was still in her daughter's body, accepted the fact that they couldn't switch their bodies back before the wedding, and decided to call off the wedding.
So she told her daughter (who was in her body) to call off the wedding.
And the daughter decided to do something else.
 
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