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Sȱɳɨȼ Ʈħe ǶḝÐɠḝħȱɠ

1:00 AM

You couldn't humor him at least once?

56 mins ago, by tchrist

@skullpatrol What is your first language and where do you live?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Then I shall rule ex parte: the Lego tulips are allowed to expand into Reg's corner, provided that his Lego animals may eat them. Any objections?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist It gets worse as you try to explain yourself. You've mentioned before that sometimes interpersonal behaviour is confounding. I'm trying to let you know that you are being demeaning now, even if that is not your intent.

@SȱɳɨȼƮħeǶḝÐɠḝħȱɠ He’s always asking about my words, more than even Johan does, and Johan is a nice NNS who self-confesses to not knowing much English. So I tell him.

But this one gives no excuse.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus As long as the lego animals put the tulip pieces back into the appropriately numbered bins when they are done, I'm fine with that.

1:01 AM

@tchrist a word please.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Very well.

Sȱɳɨȼ Ʈħe ǶḝÐɠḝħȱɠ

@tchrist I understand your frustrations, but there is no need to go this far.

@KitFox Long time no see

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yeah that was what I was trying to do, knowing that it wouldn't help.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus It won't help coming from you. Your approach to this sort of problem is somewhat anathema to tchrist. It's like mixing water and electricity.

@tchrist I shall say zis ownly wence: your questions were justified, your "12yo" and "amiss" were not. I know you will not read this, but for posterity.

Sȱɳɨȼ Ʈħe ǶḝÐɠḝħȱɠ

1:04 AM

@Cerberus He is still in the room tho

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I don't know, how else could it be approached? I knew it wouldn't work, but now at least Skully knows I did not approve.

Mixing water and electricity...like human bodies?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Like uncontrolled electrical discharge resulting in electrocutions for all nearby.

Hmm.

ponders

So everyone would fall asleep?

That could be nice.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

"asleep", yes, that's how everyone would fall.

snore

1:15 AM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh, asleep, unconscious, dead—what's the difference anyway, in practice?

Mixing water, electricity, and oil. And metal filings. And salt.

Wow. There was drama and I wasn't involved. I must be slipping.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch Are you trying to electroplate something now?

Hey so I just watched Robocop for the first time.

There's still hope!

Sȱɳɨȼ Ʈħe ǶḝÐɠḝħȱɠ

@Robusto Like, third time it happened! Did you check out my page?

1:16 AM

I just set up my new bicycle wheel-truing apparatus. Looks great.

Phonics The Hedgehog

Whats that supposed to do lol

@PhonicsTheHedgehog Nice.

Phonics The Hedgehog

@Robusto :DDD

Electroplating, fingernail embroidery,

Drama shmama, make your own.

@PhonicsTheHedgehog amazon.com/BIKEHAND-Wheel-Truing-Bicycle-Maintenance/dp/…

They hold many "patents of innovation"!

1:19 AM

E.g. Bikes are dumb. Why aren't you levitating yet?

Phonics The Hedgehog

@Robusto Noice

@Mitch I get more exercise from biking. Next question?

What's exercise?

Phonics The Hedgehog

I think its when you move..

Idk man

Any way more calories burned levitating. Scientific fact.

Phonics The Hedgehog

1:20 AM

lol

Look it up.

I was 13 miles into my daily ride today and needed to brake. Discovered that my front brake was missing a pad. So I had to tack on 6 miles to my ride to swing by the bike shop for a replacement set of pads. 36 miles total today.

Don't look it up on Wikipedia. They suck.

> The City of London Corporation ... is the municipal governing body of the City of London, the historic centre of London and the location of much of the UK's financial sector. ...

> The corporation claims to be the world's oldest continuously elected local government body. Both businesses and residents ... are entitled to vote in elections, and in addition to its functions as the local authority ... it takes responsibility for supporting the financial services industry and representing its interests. — Wiki

@cerb it used to be Damascus. Not anymore.

1:21 AM

In England, business really are people.

@Cerberus That's why they call it "The City" . . .

How do you mean?

Phonics The Hedgehog

Plenty of conspiracy theories surrounding the City of England

@Robusto Well done!

@PhonicsTheHedgehog I see you quoted me as well.

1:22 AM

I thought Damascus is falling apart?

@PhonicsTheHedgehog It's not "the City of England", and I see no conspiracy theories.

Phonics The Hedgehog

@Robusto Too epic not to quote.

@Cerberus Ah. Got confused lol

OK.

Beijing = 'The City'

In Malagasy

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch Beijing = "The North Capital" in Chinese

1:26 AM

I have to reboot to install some new hardware.

Phonics The Hedgehog

@tchrist Ah, nice!

Which hardware?

I’ll tell you if it works. :)

Phonics The Hedgehog

Hopefully it does!

Two different things, with some rerouting too.

Phonics The Hedgehog

sounds fancy

1:27 AM

> In 1801, the City had a population of about 130,000, but increasing development of the City as a central business district led to this falling to below 5,000 after the Second World War. It has risen slightly to around 9,000 since, ...

> The non-residential vote system used disfavoured incorporated companies. The City of London (Ward Elections) Act 2002 greatly increased the business franchise, allowing many more businesses to be represented. In 2009, the business vote was about 24,000, greatly exceeding residential voters.

Trying to lightning proof some stuff. We’re having floods again.

Well, and power losses.

I have to go away for a few days and I don’t want everything fried when I come back.

Phonics The Hedgehog

Well, I traversed like what, over 2000 meters in minecraft to find 3 vilaged in total

@tchrist Do you get more lightning during floods?

Phonics The Hedgehog

New forestry mod includes bees, but I need an apiary from a villager

because its expensive to make

@Cerberus Not exactly.

Phonics The Hedgehog

1:29 AM

Did not find an apiarist, but a tinkerer (Tinkerer's Construct) so thats nice

O.

But we’re supposed to get like 20–25% of our normal annual rainfall in the next 24 hours.

Last time that happened, we got > 100% in < 3 days, and it was Really Bad.

Phonics The Hedgehog

ouch

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@tchrist wow, so, literally water + electricity.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Exactly.

Need to move some servers from below grade to 6 half-stories above it.

And plug them into new UPSes that just arrived.

I have a 3-level home that is cut in half, with one half then moved one half-story with respect to the other, and a circular staircase connecting it all.

Or at least, that’s one way to look at it.

Really hard on the knees.

-oo

Phonics The Hedgehog

1:34 AM

SO I get to this village

there is a guy there offering an emerald for 20 wool, usually I have to give villagers emerald for trade, so this is rare

Do you think the floods might be as bad as the other time?

Worshipful Company of Management Consultants

The Worshipful Company of Management Consultants is one of the Livery Companies of the City of London. It draws its memberships from practising management consultants and has close links to the Management Consultancies Association and the Institute of Management Consultancy. The Company's motto is 'Change through Wisdom'. It started as a guild in 1993 and became a company without livery in 1999. On 4 May 2004, the Court of Aldermen granted the company's petition to become the City's 105th Livery Company. The Company was presented with a royal charter by Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex, in May 2008...

Phonics The Hedgehog

the other village I visited 200 meters away offered 14 for a emerald I think

This ^ sounds like something from a Terry Pratchett book. But it is real.

Phonics The Hedgehog

but this village has tons of sheeps next to it, constantly regenerating wool

I hit a kind of a jackpot, essentially

Its minecraft

Mine raft in real life or real life on minecraft

Phonics The Hedgehog

1:40 AM

Whoa

No but seriously I can get 60 wool from sheeps next to village in 5 min tops

and wool constantly grows back

and an emerald for 20 wool

I cant believe my luck

Phonics The Hedgehog

2:01 AM

You know, I should not be surprised, but I am.

Paid version of fraps is much, much better compared to other freeware recorders. The quality does not compare with others, its very smooth, and it ate up less CPU than other porgrams.

The hue and saturation for some reason seems a bit off tho. Little bit of orange mixed in.

Worth every penny.

Too bad the several days worth of recording from before has bad quality.

I was rather hoping to record the full extent of my crackpack experience, but oh well.

An hour's worth of playing minecraft seems to equal 24 GB of videos, however.

I made it so that it automatically split every 4 GB.

Hmm, I may need to put them in Dropbox...

Anonymous

I don't think Minecraft is a really great game, but I've discovered it's the sort of game that's perfect for occupying the rest of my brain while I listen to an audiobook

Anonymous

Also perfect: an endless game of Dr Mario

Phonics The Hedgehog

Shun the nonbeliever
Shun!

Anonymous

I don't know why, but I need something to go with an audiobook.

Phonics The Hedgehog

No but seriously, with mods minecraft becomes greater. Have you tried mods? Without them its boring tbh

Anonymous

2:14 AM

I made a giant snail once.

Phonics The Hedgehog

And multiplayer increases the fun exponentially.

Survival Playing or Creative Playing?

Anonymous

user image

Phonics The Hedgehog

niceee

Anonymous

@PhonicsTheHedgehog It's true, it's not terribly fun single player.

Phonics The Hedgehog

I see. Did you try mods?

Anonymous

2:19 AM

Will mods help me build giant snails in the sky?

Phonics The Hedgehog

One of the jetpack mods will help with that I suppose

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@snailboat yay!

I made a giant sheep.

Oct 4 '13 at 16:15, by cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

This my sheep statue. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

Phonics The Hedgehog

Niceee

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Why thank you.

Anonymous

2:35 AM

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Oh, very nicely done! :-)

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@snailboat thank you :)

I really like your snail!

Check this out

user image

Uhh.

What's that?

They're advertising fake boobs?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

It's supposed to be a s'more.

But yeah, boobs.

A s'more (sometimes spelled smore) is a traditional night time campfire treat popular in the United States and Canada, consisting of a roasted marshmallow and a layer of chocolate sandwiched between two pieces of graham cracker. National S'mores Day is celebrated yearly on August 10 in the United States. == Etymology and origins == S'more appears to be a contraction of the phrase "some more". The first recorded version of the recipe can be found in the publication Tramping and Trailing with the Girl Scouts of 1927. Although the exact origin is unclear, reports on the group as early in 1925 describe...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:59 AM

It's not my day. Jury duty. Carpenter ants. ugh.

Jury duty, you have that?

The new Thief is on sale for €10: humblebundle.com/store

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus If I didn't have it, I wouldn't have it.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Why not?

You didn't like it?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

No, I've been summoned for jury duty.

I don't particularly look forward to it.

So I imagine.

Do you want it abolished?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:08 AM

No. Juries are important.

But just because something is important doesn't mean I have to look forward to doing it.

3:34 AM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Hmm why are juries important?

What if you didn't have them?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 :(

6 hours later…

10:06 AM

@Robusto hey now, what can I do if my IQ actually is 20 inches?

10:35 AM

China Build a Rectangular Running Track

@RegDwigнt This is like those rectangular cloverleaf interchanges.

@RegDwigнt It means you’re at the cusp between idiot and imbecile, and so had best round up to 21 put yourself squarely in the imbecile category so FumbleFingers doesn’t insult you for being a bit of an idiot, or else you stand somehwere between virile and deploying weapons of mass destruction without a licence and so should be careful not to let George Bush know your undisclosed location.

True fact: I care more about George Bush's location than he cares about mine.

10:55 AM

@RegDwigнt Keep it to yourself.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Just find the carpenter ants guilty. End of story.

When is it 'thus far' and when is it 'so far'?

Use "thus far" when you're speaking of progress made up to the current time.

Or when you just want to sound fookin fancy, yo.

Use "so far" the same way, except "so far" is more versatile.

ok never gonna use thus far again then

11:04 AM

Meaning so far does the same job that thus far does plus other jobs, too.

@JohanLarsson what, you don't want to be fancy? When did that happen?

"Thus far" is the verbal equivalent of shaving your head and eating rotten herring.

When did i fancy?

Just sayin.

When you shove your head and eated rotten herring.

sry about that

11:06 AM

Well too late. You're all fancy now.

not if I type next to Tom

Not fancy enough to suit me.

Dec 27 '13 at 22:05, by Johan Larsson

@tchrist jar with fancy words exploded while typing that?

@Robusto we know we know, nothing suits you, you are more into skirts.

I don't like fake boobs, either.

11:07 AM

I found xpath today, like it

@Robusto You’re being insulting to people with replacement prosthetics, you know. Also Lego baboon figurines.

@JohanLarsson You're an xpathriate.

How’s that Lisp coming along?

Lisp as in F#?

@tchrist I speak truth. Let those with mechanical mammaries quiver quietly.

11:09 AM

@Robusto Calculator manufacturers took notice and ensured you couldn't type "fake".

@RegDwigнt A calculated response, to be sure.

That’s because you can’t have 0xFAKE, just 0xFAE. It takes like base-23 before FAKE works.

@tchrist oh yeah? And how base does it takes before BOOBS works, then, with an S?

80082

Wow, what a noob mistake!

11:12 AM

@RegDwigнt Everyone knows boobs are base 2. As in, there are normally two of them. QED.

So all you're saying is that World War Z is secretly really about World War 2.

I knew it looked like a documentary to me. I kept wondering why.

It's really about catastrophic film-making.

POV, too.

Also SUV.

BTW, I'm still trying to figure out how Germans came up with H as a note in the musical scale. Pretty ficken perverse, if you ask me. Did they do it as a joke? So they could end every scale with "Ha!"?

Well, it's right after A. Which is the letter "age" begins with. Which sounds like "aitch". So.

11:17 AM

Stop making excuses for your adopted country.

I am not making excuses, I am teaching you history.

You're doing nothing of the sort.

How the hell were you otherwise supposed to spell B-A-C-H?

@Robusto history is written by winners, I am a winner, QED.

So it was a contrivance. I suspected as much.

@RegDwigнt You are not a Wiener. You despise Austria.

Hm, do I?

I've never been, so perhaps I do.

11:19 AM

You invariably make fun of them and their speech.

Nonono, they make fun of them and their speech.

You help out where you can.

I am awesome like that.

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Q: Word wrapping rules

Are there any rules / recommendations on word wrapping in English text? For example, consider the following sentence wrapped on two lines: The tragedy of the commons is an economics theory by Garrett Hardin. I believe that the an article cannot be left on the first line. So the following "wrap...

Here's a question you will love.

As an extra bonus, it even mentions is the preposition.

This question appears to be off-topic because it is about rules of typography, not English. — Robusto 13 secs ago

@tchrist will love the formatting.

So much love.

11:23 AM

Don't you want some buddy to love?

I never liked his glasses.

Or hair.

So Peggy Sue me.

@RegDwigнt Good luck talking the mods at Grafux Dezein into taking that one.

I don’t know that Liberty.SE would take it either, despite that silly sign about the wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

@Robusto When a maaan loves a maaan

Self-appraisals never work. Everyone is above average.

I consider myself to be a well-educated native speaker, with a much larger than average vocabulary, and I've never come across "ur-" before, to my knowledge. — Phil M Jones 4 hours ago

Well.

11:34 AM

Deep.

Obviously not a musician.

A condition which belies his statement about being well-educated.

What I find interesting is that he would leave that comment seven hours after your answer had been posted.

And congusbongus's answer.

And the guy digging up clay tablets with cuneiform is not being treated nicely, only justly.

CB hit submit before I did.

I didn’t think Enlightened was worth submitting a crappy answer quickly that I then edited at leisure.

46 seconds earlier, in point of fact.

But yes, urtext was the first thing that came to mind.

@tchrist Why didn't you mention Ur to provide a context?

Ur (Sumerian: Urim; Sumerian Cuneiform: 𒋀𒀕𒆠 URIM2KI or 𒋀𒀊𒆠 URIM5KI; Akkadian: Uru; Arabic: أور‎) was an important Sumerian city-state in ancient Mesopotamia, located at the site of modern Tell el-Muqayyar (Arabic: تل المقير‎) in south Iraq's Dhi Qar Governorate. Although Ur was once a coastal city near the mouth of the Euphrates on the Persian Gulf, the coastline has shifted and the city is now well inland, south of the Euphrates on its right bank, 16 kilometres (9.9 mi) from Nasiriyah. The city dates from the Ubaid period circa 3800 BC, and is recorded in written history as a City St...

11:41 AM

Because it has nothing to do with the price of hashish in Sumeria.

@Robusto Whoosh.

4 mins ago, by tchrist

And the guy digging up clay tablets with cuneiform is not being treated nicely, only justly.

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A: Is “Ur-moment” a normal English expression?

The Old Testament city of Ur was a toponym, a place-name. In the story, the character Abraham, himself an originator of the monotheism practice of his tribe upon which the saga is centered, is said himself to originate from the city of Ur. So, the common understanding of the the usage of an "Ur...

@RegDwigнt Who has time to read all your shit?

Nonono, not mine.

Also, I do.

All anybody's.

Also, you're at work so you have all the time in the world to read shit.

11:43 AM

Hey, life's a beach, so don't be a playa hater.

@tchrist should appreciate the pun. ^

What, and I shouldn't?

No. And please don't.

Fair enough I shall not appreciate it in the least.

That’s just sarong I don’t know what to say.

Why does my body think I live in Eastern or Atlantic time?

Too much weed.

11:45 AM

Doesn’t that make you sleep?

You see, normal people's bodies don't think at all. They have heads for that.

@tchrist you tell me, friendo.

It’s a pretty good hangover treatment, IIRC. The antinausea properties and all.

But that’s like the tale of the old woman who swallowed a fly.

Some stock or really just mineral water work just as fine.

@RegDwigнt The head is part of the body.

@tchrist She didn't know Y.

@Robusto yeah and a thumb is part of the finger. Go away with your Bizarro world.

11:48 AM

> The Greeks were fortunate in possessing Homer, and wise in using him as they did.

They promised rain today, it rained for 60 seconds, now it is even hotter than before + humid.

@JohanLarsson How . . . hot . . . is it?

Also, how long is 60 seconds in metric?

Feels like high 20's

About 120 primes.

@Robusto 100

11:49 AM

@JohanLarsson Poor dear.

See. 100 is about 120.

Only in dodo math, long since extirpated except in Troy.

Don't have a duodecimal ulcer on that account.

@Robusto 1852 / 60 = 30 m

Hey, I'm with cupid.

11:51 AM

You're with cupidity.

@JohanLarsson Yards here.

he asked for metric?

Ok, rods then.

@JohanLarsson That cannot be. 1852 would have to be divisible by 3, and as anyone can plainly see, the sum of the digits of 1852 is not divisible evenly by 3. QED.

You forget that he is using metric math.

11:53 AM

Also, algebra teaches us that x / 60 = 30 -> x = 30 * 60

Oh right. A chain is 20 m.

Who is Al Gebra? Next up you'll start listening to Al Qaeda.

@RegDwigнt I thought he was on metric meth.

I guess I’ll spare the rod this time.

Do you know why a chain is 20 m? Because it’s French, that’s why.

They use them in counting.

Four twenty ten nine.

11:55 AM

Chain Andalou.

I thought we weren’t talking about weed anymore?

That's what you always start thinking when you had too much weed.

checks LD50

I don't think there is an LD50 for weed, is there?

I mean, unless a bale fell on you.

From a great height.

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