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11:05 PM

Oh, I just realised that by the Ctrl key you did in fact mean the Control key on Mac. I was assuming that almost all functions performed by the Ctrl key on Windows would be performed by the Command key.

tchrist

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Aug 13 '12 at 1:59, by tchrist

I really do usually just say what I mean without a great deal of metaphor.

Plus I don’t know what all that stuff you’re talking about even means. I’m a Unix guy.

Why you would have thought that control didn’t mean control, I have no earthly idea.

Robusto

@AndrewLeach: Are you around?

tchrist

Circling in on him, eh?

What a donkey’s behind!

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Q: The use of "not" in idiomatic English

Many media outlets have recently used the phrase "Pentagon experts on Friday said it was impossible to imagine that the missile could not have been fired without Russian help". Is the "not" a mistake or idiomatic English? https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1AVSI_enGB459...

negation

He embedded the LMGTFY right in his effulent question!

Alraxite

I dunno, I just assumed from my reading that the equivalent of a control key on Windows is the Command key on Mac.

tchrist

@Alraxite I don’t know.

I virtually never use that key.

Alraxite

11:14 PM

So you only ever use your thumbs for the Spacebar?

tchrist

I imagine so. I’ve never thought about it.

Alraxite

Okay. I think it's a good idea to have control on either side of the spacebar.

tchrist

I’m a keyboardist, not a video gamer.

@Andrew He has not taken the hint. In fact, he’s dug in his heels.

Alraxite

No, not for video games. For typing. I can use the caps lock to set hotkeys of my own choosing.

Like the arrow keys.

And other keys.

Like Esc.

Most definitely Esc.

It's too far.

tchrist

ESC is to the left of 1.

Not quite too far.

Alraxite

11:19 PM

It's above of 1 for me.

tchrist

A little uncomfy, but doable.

Alraxite

In line with the function keys.

tchrist

Well, that’s your problem right there.

You really need a better keyboard. Or a better keyboard mapping.

Alraxite

I will definitely remap.

Where are your function keys?

tchrist

It’s worth it.

What function keys?

What would I use a function key for?

Alraxite

11:20 PM

F1, F2, ...

Ah.

OK.

tchrist

Never used ’em in my fife.

Alraxite

You can right click items in windows if you press F10+Shift.

Also refresh with F2.

And Alt+F4 quits applications.

tchrist

You keep using that four-letter word. Refresh is ^R or ^L.

Alraxite

Did you bind these yourself?

Or is this default in Macs?

tchrist

No, it’s just what vi or less uses.

I spend all my time in xterms.

Alraxite

11:22 PM

What about here?

This text box doesn't support vim shortcuts.

Well, refresh is a browser thing.

So ^R will work.

tchrist

Boy, you would be surprised what you can do with Pentadactyl.

Alraxite

Hah.

That's what got me into this.

tchrist

picks up his hammer and saw

Alraxite

I'm also going to start using vim.

I've already used it a bit.

Anyway, so if browsing is the only thing you do, then I suppose you can pretty much do anything without leaving the home row.

tchrist

Bingo!

I do a lot of thing besides “browsing”.

I write programs.

I run programs.

I move files around.

I rename files.

I delete them.

Alraxite

11:27 PM

All from either the command line or vim.

tchrist

I compile programs.

Of course.

A: Can “itch” be a transitive verb, i.e., can an itch be itched?

this discussion is making my ass itch how about that one

Note the username.

It's overnegated, all right. Impossible, not, and without are all negatives (and imagine is an added hypothetical note). As Larry Horn puts it, "Simplex negatio negat, duplex negatio affirmat, triplex negatio confundit." — John Lawler 10 mins ago

Robusto

Cute.

tchrist

So is Lawler for a change.

Well, or Horn.

badp

I like the smell of flags in the Stack Exchange

tchrist

Oh say can you see. . . ?

RegDwigнt

11:34 PM

I thought that you, here on ELU could give me some fast answer about how it is problematic, or some translation table or something like that. I asked a question on Stack Overflow too, and I got an answer there too, so thank you for your contributions. Here on ELU I got more answers and on SO only one but with library which I need. Have a nice day. PS: Answer at SO is this link where are libraries for transforming SAMPA (ASCII representation of pronunciation) to IPA. — dalton 19 mins ago

Gah, that just scared the shit out of me.

tchrist

No shit.

RegDwigнt

The link leads to the site of a former colleague.

Robusto

I'm still full of shit, so I guess I wasn't scared enough.

RegDwigнt

I didn't expect to bump into Mr Theiling again like that.

The world is small.

tchrist

I thought it was Kirshenbaum at first, but it isn’t.

It isn’t SAMPA either, however; or if it is, it’s a non-standard variant.

RegDwigнt

11:36 PM

Two Degrees of Henrik Theiling.

@tchrist there's a legend that says precisely that. So.

Robusto

I still want to know what "a leg up the greasy" might mean in Brit slang.

tchrist

He actually asked identical questions on two different SE sites.

RegDwigнt

Henrik constructed a language every year.

tchrist

Q: Transcription from phonetic form to pronunctiation

this is my first question here, please don't be cruel :). I am creating dictionary application for Android. I have source dictionary (LMF) which contains data including pronunciation. For example I have word: "transcription" phoneticForm: "trHn'skrIpSEn" My question is: How do I get...

java android

Q: Transcription of pronunctiation

this is my first question here, please don't be cruel :). I am creating dictionary application and I have source dictionary (LMF) which contains data including pronunciation. For example I have word: "transcription" phoneticForm: "trHn'skrIpSEn" My question is: How do I get somethin...

pronunciation

RegDwigнt

Pronunctiation.

Robusto

11:37 PM

Greasy pole, maybe?

tchrist

Check.

Robusto

What an unpleasant image.

tchrist

He probably doesn’t realize that duplicate questions are misliked by the Management.