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12:04 AM
Holla.
 
I ain't no challah back girl.
hi @cerb!
 
My apologies.
How about "yo ho!"?
 
With or without the bottle of rum?
No need; I just wanted to make the joke.
 
Heh.
Have the rum anyway.
 
Hooray! I like mai tais.
 
12:10 AM
Mai tais?
My Thais?
My ties?
Mite eyes?
I didn't know mites had eyes.
Although—why not?
 
If I's are good enough for us, they're good enough for mights.
 
Has your account been hacked by @tchrist?
:D
 
@cornbreadninja I might
have been
 
@MετάEd do you feel dirty and perspicacious?
 
12:15 AM
@cornbreadninja What if it were?
 
@cornbreadninja Of course. You know our camp motto. Clean Mind – Clean Body – Take Your Pick.
 
Or litter them both! Wrahaha....
And the camp too.
 
@Cerberus I'd feel sorry for you, I guess.
 
Oh.
 
I mean, if you were upset by it, I would feel sorry for you. If not, I wouldn't.
 
12:18 AM
@cornbreadninja A certain amount of moral flexibility? :-)
 
@MετάEd there's no point in feeling sorry for someone who doesn't care about it themselves (in this case).
 
@cornbreadninja Yes, you're right. I was just overthinking it. It would still be wrong. But you're right there wouldn't be any point in feeling sorry for the "victim" who doesn't care.
 
@MετάEd some sort of uncaring single-mother crack whore I would feel sorry for, however.
Her children at least.
 
I suppose Cerb could be an uncaring single-mother crack whore.
On the Internet, nobody knows you aren't a dog.
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@MετάEd Hey! I'm not uncaring?
 
12:30 AM
@cornbreadninja See how he sidestepped the species question?
 
@MετάEd :D
C'mon, he has three brains.
 
Thanks.
@MετάEd Of course. I'm not inquiring after your race, am I?
 
@cornbreadninja Three dog brains in one body ... that can't be good.
 
Hullo, folks.
 
howdy @Mahnax!
how is coffeeville?
 
12:44 AM
@Cerberus Most unique is not blocked for reasons of grammar but of sense. In contrast, it is a matter of grammar that blocks you from having a shoe size, shoer size, shoest size. It is clear that even though shoe is specifying a type of size, it cannot be an adjective. In the same way, determiners are blocked because of their word class. Do you then also consider articles to be a subtype of adjective? If so, I cannot think how. They don’t even go in the adjective slot in the NP.
 
@cornbreadninja Quite lovely. I just returned from a quick visit there for a beverage, a paycheck, and a work schedule.
 
@Mahnax captiol!
ugh.
capital! capitol?
hi @sims
 
@cornbreadninja Capital.
 
What's in your wallet?
 
Um, nothing.
I don't have a wallet.
 
12:47 AM
o rly.
 
He has a billfold, of course.
 
I don't, actually.
 
Regular guys have billfolds; only bankers and other fancy-pancers have wallets.
 
I keep the few cards I need in the only jacket I own.
It's a winter jacket, I'm not sure what I'll do when summertime rolls around.
 
Lift thine eyes, to the mountains, . . .
Whence cometh snow.
And for which jackets are well advised.
@Cerberus One of the nice things about adjectives is that there are so many of them. If one doesn’t quite suit, you can usually find a synonym with slightly different shade of meaning. Determiners, however, have no synonyms. There is no synonym for my, an, the, this, that, etc. They are function words.
 
12:51 AM
Right. Well, I'm off to dine. Farewell.
 
Bye.
 
auf weidersehn, @Mahnax
I can't speel anythig tonite.
 
1:07 AM
@Cerberus I stand corrected. Most possible cannot be a real superlative, because it is merely a periphrastic one not an inflectional one. Only the rarest forms are actual superlatives, since only they use inflection. Gosh, I learn so much from “linguists”.
 
1:18 AM
> Authorities in Northern California made a snappy discovery during a routine probation check: An alligator-like reptile named "Mr. Teeth," who was apparently protecting a stash of marijuana. When Alameda County Sheriff's deputies entered the Castro Valley home on Tuesday, they not only found 34 pounds of marijuana valued at an estimated $100,000, but also the 5-foot-long caiman inside a Plexiglas tank guarding it in a bedroom.
 
1:46 AM
@tchrist if the gator is in a tank, is he really guarding it?
 
2:06 AM
Hey chatkillah.
 
Hi there, Mrs. Kit.
 
@tchrist Why should all this be a criterion for adjectives? All etc. have always been called adjectives.
 
Ah, you're all a bunch of pussies. Freaked out that we might lose our musty smell and silverfish. As if SE would seriously consider a change in site design. But you're all very PC. I'll give you that.
 
@Robusto Sight?
 
@tchrist Mustn't have been very good shit. Usually they estimate the street price way higher.
@simchona Thanks.
I'm a leeeeetle bit drunk.
 
2:14 AM
> Most determiners have been traditionally classed along with adjectives, and this still occurs: for example, demonstrative and possessive determiners are sometimes described as demonstrative adjectives and possessive adjectives respectively. However, modern theorists of grammar prefer to distinguish determiners as a separate word class from adjectives, which are simple modifiers of nouns, expressing attributes of the thing referred to.
> This distinction applies particularly in languages like English which use definite and indefinite articles, frequently as a necessary component of noun phrases – the determiners may then be taken to be a class of words which includes the articles as well as other words that function in the place of articles.
> (The composition of this class may depend on the particular language's rules of syntax; for example, in English the possessives my, your etc. are used without articles and so can be regarded as determiners, whereas their Italian equivalents mio etc. are used together with articles and so may be better classed as adjectives.)
> Not all languages can be said to have a lexically distinct class of determiners.
 
xxx
 
Love you, too.
Apparently an $183/oz street price.
 
That is low, unless it's crap.
haha, this shit is crap.
 
Bulk discount.
I think here it is like $200–250/oz. Dunno. I don’t frequent the pot shops.
But I’ve seen flashing all-LED animated graphic displays on the street corners.
@Cerberus Readme.
 
Interesting that you can have two words for excrement, one of which is more severe than the other but refers to the goods, while the "nicer" one indicates lack of quality.
 
2:18 AM
@Robusto How are we PC? I balk at this offensive curse!
 
I read that as "refers to the gods".
@Cerberus You are just playing into his hands.
 
@Cerberus Well you hate Macs. That makes you a PC.
 
@Robusto This crap is this.
@tchrist Am I, now? How offensive! I am offended! Look at me being offended!
 
Wash yourself.
 
@Robusto Even if I am easy and stable?
 
2:20 AM
Shit is common parlance for anything good, especially drugs. Crap always means something bad. It's just interesting.
 
Yeah.
 
@Cerberus You are never easy. But you are semper idem, I'll give you that as well.
 
Gracias.
 
We in da red light districk.
 
Those easy stables need cleaning. Don’t wait till August.
 
2:23 AM
 
I didn't know Popeye was black.
 
It’s just the lighting.
 
This is better. What is that censored shit?
 
Playful guy.
 
2:25 AM
@tchrist Ugh, not he.
 
Why does he have a horsecock growing up from his toes?
 
That's a club. An exclusive club.
 
Then there is the one behind him.
And why does he have a tail?
 
It's a lion's tail.
A Nemean lion's tail.
 
Down, dog!
Politics in the art of saying nice doggie while you reach for the stick behind your back:
This should bring him to heel:
More baby snakes, though. Lots of them.
@Cerberus So, what’s it like to be ridden by Herc?
 
2:34 AM
Stop those offensive pictures!
 
If you go to your browser Preference panel, you should be able to disable the animation.
 
Luckily I see no animation.
I see only JPG.
 
Hercupuppy porn gets him every time.
 
3:19 AM
@Sim I don’t find those possible duplicates very compelling on the question you closed. I do think it is a dupe, but just not of those. I wasn’t able to find the question I was thinking of that talked about a conjoined subject (not the term used there) getting a singular verb, so I went ahead and answered it. If I find the right dup, I’ll let you know. Maybe @Reg remembers.
 
@KitFox hi yourself!
I sure do dislike The Chew.
 
@cornbreadninja Not the Charleston Chew, I hope.
 
3:35 AM
I should try one of those. No, the daytime television show.
 
4:02 AM
I can't believe Lovegren.
@Cerberus that's a tag question. see the wikipedia pagejlovegren 20 mins ago
He is usually so perspicacious.
But this is wrong, even according to his own reference.
Probably a momentary lapse of attention.
 
@tchrist I don't choose them. It's based on the flags.
 
What is with the american obsession with cooking shows?
 
4:28 AM
Isn't anyone obsessed with cooking shows?
They can be fun and/or interesting.
Nigella Lawson can be hilarious.
 
There are so, so many of them.
 
Of course.
There are 6 billion people who need to eat, and probably 2 billion who need to cook every day.
I mean, we all need to breathe air, and there are tons of...never mind.
 
4:43 AM
@cornbreadninja Better ask what is the American obsession with television.
 
*the world's
But many, many people have started cutting their cords.
I know many young people who have cancelled their cable subscriptions or just don't own a television set.
Television's decline has set it.
 
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A: Can a possessive pronoun be used in a tag question?

jlovegrenIt does sound weird. The tag question construction when formed from a clause with a [be] auxiliary or copula needs a subject pronoun to stand in. Not surprisingly, all the top hits in COCA are for the subject pronouns it, you, they, he, we, she, they. We also see expletive there showing up freque...

That was well hunted down, I should say.
 
@tchrist @Cerberus for the past two-ish years, I haven't watched much beyond football and UFC events. I haven't had cable for about ten years.
I'm currently in house guest mode, however.
 
?
 
There has been a lot of television viewing.
Some of it has been neat, though. Apparently there's a military channel. We watched a show about the assassination of JFK tonight.
 
4:50 AM
My house guests are always summarily unamused by my utter lack of television. It is like they think my house is broken.
 
I also like the Unwrapped show. But I could live the rest of my life without seeing Guy Fieri shove food in his mouth ever again.
 
I give them DVDs and tell me to knock themselves out. It doesn’t seem to make them happy, though.
 
Game of the Thrones is the #1 most “pirated” TV series out there.
 
@cornbreadninja Great! So then what do you watch on television that doesn't come through a cable? Public television by antenna?
 
4:52 AM
But I have weeks of DVDs they have no interest in watching, like Babylon 5. :)
 
@tchrist there are a lot of over-the-air shows now. I'll admit to watching the original Hawaii 5-0 on something called MeTV.
 
I can watch nothing not through a cable, because I have only an analogue “televisor”, and no converter. The airwaves are dead to me.
And I have no cable either, so I can watch nothing but DVDs. Have a nice day.
 
I can't remember what the default avatar snowflakes are called.
 
As I said, they think my house is broken.
 
(sidebar)
bedtime!
identicorns?
 
4:54 AM
oh aye me too
gravatars?
 
mmm, there's some other name for them.
there's a wikipedia article somewhere.
anyway, bed.
goodnight, gentlemen!
 
Bai!
 
@tchrist Surely you have friends lacking a television set?
 
A few, but they are older and better educated.
:)
This "YOU ARE INSANE" thing tends to come from people with children.
Which is sad.
Day is done. Gone the sun. Must away. That’s ok.
 
5:01 AM
@tchrist You have no younger plesiovisual friends?
Or must you away?
Or engyovisual.
And do you have friends with little education?
 
5:23 AM
Hello
what is "it" referring to in this text: "But that didn't materialise, with manufacturers preferring to stick to LCD displays and the like for colour duties, leading Qualcomm to cancel its first full-colour eBook reader and go back to the drawing board. Some even believed that was it for colour E Ink."
and what is "that" referring to?
 
Hi.
@Meysam To be "it" for x = to be the end for x.
> That's it!
Can mean "that is enough, you have reached the limit of my patience!". (Of course it can also mean "that is the answer", which is unrelated.)
 
Got it. "That's it!".
 
I think it is related to stories:
> "...and so the princess was saved, and they lived happily ever after." Okay, that's it for today, children. Another fairy-tale tomorrow.
 
I had always heard "that is it!" alone."That is it for something" is a new usage I am seeing.
 
Yeah I understand. It is slightly different.
> That's it for Romney: now that he has lost Ohio, he is out of the game.
You would say this at the moment when something is decided, when something happens that means the end for someone/something.
 
5:33 AM
Thank you. very good examples!
Should I have asked such question on the main site? Or that would have got closed? I am getting into the habit of asking all my questions here in the chat room!
 
Hehe.
I'm not sure. People are very close-happy these days.
It may have stayed open.
Once ELL goes live, which should happen in a few weeks, that will be the perfect place to ask. But asking here in chat is absolutely fine too.
 
@Cerberus Come on! that wasn't a beginner question! It was indeed one of the most advanced questions an advanced learner may ask. No?
 
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A: The meaning of "This is it"

Peter Shor I think the other answers have done a good job of discussing this is it. Let me comment that a very similar expression, That's it. can indeed mean "this is the end." or "that is all there is." In the idiom this is it, the word this can refer to what is about to happen, while in that's it,...

 
@Meysam I didn't say it was a beginner question. But it is a commonly known idiom that all native speakers will know, so I think this is typically a question that comes up when you're learning a language, so for ELL?
 
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A: Synonyms of "that's it"

FumbleFingersI don't see anything wrong with just saying That's it from me every day, but if OP wants to ring the changes he could alternate with I'm done. I used to participate in regular "conference calls" with maybe 2-6 co-workers. When it seemed we'd covered everything, whoever was notionally in charge w...

 
5:38 AM
Ah!
 
Not saying it's an exact dupe, but helps give a few more uses of this particular "it"
 
Good finds.
@simchona Don't you agree that this would be a good example of a good learner's question?
We don't want only simple questions on ELL, do we?
 
@Cerberus I think it would fit in either place.
 
Hmm OK.
 
For ELU, though, it would definitely help to do the typical showing of research and such
ELL might permit not having that
 
5:41 AM
Although this is a bit hard to research halfway, perhaps.
Either you find the expression or you don't.
 
And either you know it's the same "it", or you don't. It would probably have been fine, as long as there was some reasoning at least.
Not just like "what does X mean" and little else
 
@Meysam - That's it for those spiders! I'm going to kill the lot of them.
 
I mean, we should also migrate good questions to ELL, as long as they are about learning.
 
@Cerberus Not really supposed to.
 
Why not? I don't mean old questions btw.
 
5:42 AM
There was something in a mod chat that you're supposed to let beta sites create their own questions, and build their own audience.
 
Uhh...
 
If it's on topic on ELU, why move it? We don't get that many questions
And we get plenty that are clearly migratory beings
 
But if people keep asking learning questions here, either many will be closed, or they will be answered here—and nobody will know that the other site is the best place to ask.
 
Learning questions will get moved fairly easily, I presume. Not sure of the private beta rules
 
Okay.
Probably not during private beta.
How long does private beta take anyway?
 
5:45 AM
Like whether questions can be moved because those new users can't get in. I know Reg has commented on a bunch of recent questions that they belong on ELL, so once it's public there will probably be a steady stream for a while
 
Is it a fixed time?
I presume we will have to ask lots of questions ourselves there?
As most learners won't be able to get in.
 
4
Q: How long is a site in private-beta/beta?

SwissCoderHow long will a private beta be up normally?

 
Ah OK.
That's manageable.
 
Shouldn't be too bad.
 
Hey Cerb, the little arrow disappeared off your comment that I was hilarious. Now I don't know what I said.
 
5:51 AM
@DavidWallace About throwing out the bathwater and discovering there was no baby.
This was in your answer about creating ELL.
 
Oh, that was a very long time ago. I can't even remember what I was talking about when I said that.
AH, Jinx!
 
nods
 
I take it from the buzz that ELL now exists?
 
Not yet.
We're at 91 % now.
 
ELL means?
 
5:52 AM
It should be there by the end of the month, ish.
English Language Learners, the site for people who are learning English and have questions about it.
 
@iHungry It's where we go in ANDCARTS.
 
And hi.
 
iHUngry to learn english better
 
Yup.
 
@Cerberus Hah! If I had only read upwards for a line, I would have known that. I'm very tired.
 
5:55 AM
@DavidWallace Happens to the best.
 
I am not expecting a baby.
 
I think we were the baby, i.e. EL&U?
 

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