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6:00 PM
how be ye, @Mahnax
 
Allo, allo!
 
:D René!
 
@matt Good, but I don't like mobile chat.
 
@Mahnax it does leave a little to be desried
 
Yep.
 
6:02 PM
Oh, Yvette...
 
Just testing this, gotta run!
 
Oh René...
cya @Mahnax
 
Bye Mimi!
 
is so confused
 
Hey Edith!
'Allo 'Allo! is a British sitcom broadcast on BBC One from 1982 to 1992 comprising eighty-five episodes. The story is set up in a small town café in Nazi-occupied France during the World War II. It is a parody of another BBC programme, the wartime drama Secret Army. 'Allo, 'Allo! was created by David Croft, who also wrote the theme music, and Jeremy Lloyd. Lloyd and Croft wrote the first 6 series. Series 7 onward was written by Lloyd and Paul Adam. In 2004, Allo 'Allo came 13th in Britain's Best Sitcom. A reunion special, comprising new material, archive clips and specially recorded inte...
 
6:04 PM
straightens self out bonjour Edith
 
Yes, I've seen it.
 
I believe you didn't like it?
 
No, it was OK.
Fawlty Towers was funnier.
 
Oh hai!
 
6:11 PM
hello!
 
I miss Fawlty Towers
 
Hi!
For some reason I never got to appreciate FT.
 
I think they were both equal on the cringe level but FT had more absurd humour, whereas Allo Allo was more bawdy
 
Haha, yes.
I think the cultural references in AA are perhaps better.
Or more frequent.
 
6:17 PM
It is so hard to think sometimes. I just want to go shopping.
 
arr, tis true m'lady, I were feeling that way only yesterrrrday
today I think I was focused
but I was being distracted by other people
 
I feel like this should be really straightforward, if only I could just think about it correctly.
Instead, I want to be doing something else.
 
if you do something else the other thing might percolate in your brain, and you'll come back to it and it will click
 
Meh. What I want to do is buy a new TV.
But we can't afford that.
 
can you cut out a cardboard frame and paint it to look like a new TV, and stick it on your current one?
3
 
6:23 PM
What is a smart TV anyway? Internet capable?
 
oh, I don't know
probably
I've not heard the term before
 
Oh. Like a smartphone, only with a TV.
Huh.
crosses that off list
 
:For the Danish company, see SmartTV A/S. Smart TV, which is also sometimes referred to as "Connected TV" or "Hybrid TV", (not to be confused with Internet TV or Web TV), is the phrase used to describe the current trend of integration of the internet and Web 2.0 features into modern television sets and set-top boxes, as well as the technological convergence between computers and these television sets / set-top boxes. These new devices most often also have a much higher focus on online interactive media, Internet TV, over-the-top content, as well as on-demand streaming media, and less foc...
yeah, cheaper just to buy a raspberry pi and an external hard disk and hook it up to your current tv (so long as your current tv has HDMI input)
 
...or use our existing PS3.
 
well, yeah, or that
but you earn fewer geek points that way :p
 
6:27 PM
:D
I don't suppose you know anything about TVs?
 
I don't own a TV, I know less than you
 
Hmm. I should stop looking anyway.
 
@KitFox Haha, you don't even known what you want—just that you want it?
@MattЭллен Woohoo!
 
@Cerberus Yay!
 
@Cerberus No, I don't want a smart TV.
 
6:33 PM
More and more younger people like us toss their televisions.
@KitFox What if it can solve your database problem?
 
@Cerberus It can't.
I just need to figure out how to get the keys for the things that people are supposed to be able to see.
 
@Cerberus Although, all of my friends from uni have a TV
I'm glad I can do without
 
I don't watch cable or anything, but I play games and watch movies.
OK, I watch a little cable.
 
I was glued to How I met Your Mother the other day, at a friends house, though, so I'm not totally weaned :D
 
But I told my husband I didn't want it, and I still think we should get rid of it.
I gape at TV.
Well, regular TV programming.
Especially the ads distract me.
 
6:38 PM
and I watch programmes online quite regularly
brb - dinner
 
@MattЭллен Hmm really? Several of my best friends don't any more. I think I stopped watching when I was 22 or so.
@KitFox I know!!
The ads are the worst thing.
Second is the fact that I can't watch what I want, when I want. And no pausing.
 
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Q: Quoting poor English in a news article? I don't often see [sic]

Mr_SpockI don't stumble upon [sic] as I read newspapers. I think it's safe to assume that plenty of those who are quoted in articles have botched their grammar more often than not. Here's what I'm asking: Are grammatical errors overlooked in the editing process when it comes to quotes? Are they fixed...

 
But, sure, there are many cool and interesting programmes and films.
 
Dupe.
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Q: Should I fix typos / grammatical errors in quotation?

Dante is not a GeekWhen writing papers, I meet typos/grammatical errors in references now and then. Should I correct them, or leave them as they are?

There was another one as well...
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A: What can I do instead of [sic]?

GnawmeIn its section on Quotations and Dialogue: Permissible changes to punctuation, capitalization, and spelling, the Chicago Manual of Style recommends: Obvious typographic errors may be corrected silently (without comment or sic; see 13.59), unless the passage quoted is from an older work or...

 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Hmm this question has the best answer.
Voted. Just for you.
(Matt won't let me write "specially" there, alas.)
 
6:53 PM
@Cerberus you can write "especially"
 
But I don't want to!
That would mean I also voted for other people.
 
then you must remain misunderstood
 
Hi
 
But I recast it instead!
 
oh, so you you did :D
welcome back, @Mahnax
 
6:55 PM
I wonder why I used Listviews instead of Gridviews.
 
Thanks!
 
@Cerberus plus "specially" seems to me to mean that you did something special when you voted
not that it was particularly for Reg
 
Huh?
 
Huh.
like you voted with some sort of flourish
 
7:00 PM
see!
 
@MattЭллен They supposedly mean different things: I meant to show that "specially" is not uncommon.
 
> An ultraaccelerator for the sulphur vulcanization of rubbers, especially for latices.
This shows the difference.
 
Well, that was a good lunch stress-cleaning of my cube.
At least now I have some surfaces not covered in paper.
 
Here "especially" means "mainly", while "specially" means "only".
@aediaλ bulging eyes
Wow!
Witchcraft!
Unnatural!
 
7:05 PM
I know!
Don't look at the table behind me though.
 
@Cerberus here especially mean only
 
What table?
whistles
 
That one still needs its files dealt with. I really want to do it, but I have to do some of those other things they insist are actual w*#k or something.
giggles
 
@MattЭллен Hmm that link doesn't work for me, but I know "specially" is also often used for both.
 
No, you're thinking of 'specially, not specially.
 
7:07 PM
I don't think I say either of those.
 
No, specially.
 
Speciously?
 
It is a bit formal.
 
"I've created this cake specially" - the cake was created in a special way
"I've created the cake especially (for this occasion)" - the cake was created specifically for the occasion
 
Yes.
And thank you.
 
7:10 PM
Yes, if you use "specially" without "for".
 
even if you use it with for
 
headdesk
 
I guess it is old fashioned, then.
 
"I've created this cake specially for this occasion" = "I've created this cake in a special fashion for this occasion"
 
7:11 PM
Have you looked at the examples in Google Books I gave?
 
Bryan Lee Cranston (born March 7, 1956) is an American actor, voice actor, writer and director. He is best known for his roles as Hal the father in the Fox situation comedy Malcolm in the Middle, and Walter White in the AMC drama series Breaking Bad, for which he won the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series three consecutive times. Since earning critical acclaim for starring in these television series, he has gone on to perform in many feature films. Early life Cranston was born in Canoga Park, California, the son of Peggy Sell, a radio actress, and Joseph L. ...
Happy birthday, Bryan.
 
If only there were some sort of website where we could ask these sorts of questions.
 
"I voted for you specially" - the way I voted for you was special
"I voted for you especially" - I voted for you in particular
 
@KitFox Not the way I intended it.
 
Also: "I voted for you 'specially" - I voted for you in particular
 
7:12 PM
That is informal.
 
Indeed.
Cartoonish, even.
 
Yes, those books examples agree with you, @Cerberus
but they all jar with me
 
No, they all mean that things were done in a special fashion.
 
Nah.
 
7:13 PM
Except that one, which sounds dumb.
 
sigh
 
I could hear that from here.
 
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A: Is there a word that means both opening and closing a door?

CharlieSwinging after midnight not allowed?

FFS
This is precisely why such questions should not appear on the multicollider.
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A: Is there a word that means both opening and closing a door?

Peddler This door must not be used after midnight. Or, This door is not to be used after midnight.

Another answer that got posted five hours after someone else had already posted use.
 
Yeah, but has anyone thought to post "use" yet? I think that's the most obvious answer.
 
7:17 PM
Well I'll go and post it before you do.
 
lalalalala
 
In other words, perhaps this usage is not so common any more, but it is still recommended by the BBC.
 
@Cerberus so, therefore, you should say "I voted for you especially"
 
7:19 PM
Uh...no.
 
you meant particularly, did you not?
 
My line was of the same type as the "my father made this model aeroplane specially for me".
@MattЭллен Nope!
 
I meant "only".
 
@Cerberus but who listens to the BBC?
 
7:20 PM
hmmm
@JSBᾶngs I was just listening to radio 4 :D
 
I voted specially for Reg, because he really wanted me to. Or something. I was teasing him, of course.
 
@Cerberus It has a childish quality to it when used that way. Oh, and Arthur C. Clarke was no great prose stylist.
 
@JSBᾶngs Excuse me?
Best broadcasting company in the world!
 
:D
yeah!
 
@Robusto Sorry, but you just don't get the idiom.
 
7:21 PM
in the first place, the BBC is british, and this is america.
 
So?
 
oh, i'm just trolling you
 
How is America relevant to my usage of "specially"?
@JSBᾶngs I knew it!
 
@Cerberus Yeah. I'm kind of slow when it comes to grasping the meaning of idioms in English. My apologies.
 
@JSBᾶngs tries to turn you into stone
Dammit, how does one turn trolls into stone again?
Sunlight?
 
7:23 PM
nope. trolls can only be killed with acid and/or fire
 
Expose them to sunlight.
 
or sunlight
 
Ah!
 
I knew it.
No need to get The Hobbit, then.
 
7:23 PM
> Trolls are infamous for their regenerative abilities, able to recover from the most grievous of wounds or regenerate entire limbs given time. Severing a troll's head results merely in temporary incapacitation, rather than death. After cutting off a troll's head or other limbs, one must seal the wounds with fire or acid to prevent regeneration. Because of this, most adventurers will typically carry some sort of implement capable of creating fire.
 
Like a tinder box.
 
or by being ignored, if we include internet trolls
 
@Robusto It's not American. Read the links.
 
Which is how I learned what "tinder" is.
 
@MattЭллен Haha, I guess I should have done that.
You learned what tinder was when you were packing for some troll slaying?
 
7:26 PM
@Cerberus Sorry, I only understand American. I'm slow like that.
 
BRB Phone.
 
The moon is looking radiant tonight :)
 
@Cerberus Yes.
 
Okay I'm off to a friend's, later all!
 
Bai!
 
7:30 PM
cya @Cerberus, have fun!
 
@KitFox Isn't there some children's story/fairy tale about a tinder box? My brain itches trying to think of it...
Whatever it was, I'm sure that's how I learned what tinder was.
 
I'm going there specially to watch this programme about tomatoes.
poof
 
bah! no you're not!
 
@aediaλ Yes, yes, there was...what was that?
"The Tinderbox" () is a literary fairy tale by Hans Christian Andersen about a soldier who acquires a magic tinderbox capable of summoning three powerful dogs to do his bidding. When the soldier has one of the dogs transport a sleeping princess to his room, he is sentenced to death but cunningly summons the dogs to save his life. It is Aarne-Thompson type 562, The Spirit in the Blue Light. Other tales of this type include The Three Dogs and The Blue Light. The tale has its source in a Scandinavian folk tale Andersen learned in his childhood, but similarities with "Aladdin and the Wo...
 
the Aarne-Thompson type system drives me batty
because what could possibly be more fun than taking fairy tales and assigning them all to numbered boxes?
 
7:37 PM
@KitFox Yes! You would think I could have thought of that, huh. I remember the dogs vaguely now... the illustrations in my copy were scary and fascinating at the same time.
 
@JSBᾶngs Well how else will you know where to put them?
 
@JSBᾶngs Oh my, I didn't know about that
It sounds like something I would invent in a mad fit one day, which would then grow beyond its bounds, become unmaintainable and badly organized, and ultimately hopeless like all projects
 
@KitFox but what if there was a fire? all the fairy tales! Gone forever :(
 
But...but...
 
> It may contain an excessive amount of intricate detail that may only interest a specific audience.
 
7:41 PM
How else will you find the underlying universal truths?
 
Hahahaha the wiki cleanup notice is amazing
 
> In 2007, "The Tinderbox" was adapted into a 30-minute ballet with sets and costumes designed by Queen Margrethe II.
This I find fascinating.
 
ooo!
fancy
made me chuckle :)
 
Hehe. It's so bright and compelling!
 
7:58 PM
> How do I spell Subdistrict?
uh
well...
 
8:10 PM
Huhwhat?
Ugh I'm tired of writing directions. The next thing I make is definitely going to just have colored buttons with no words
Preferably, it will shock users who make mistakes, like a sadistic Simon toy
I wonder how I got in this gleefully evil mood. I think I need more coffee and chocolate.
 
8:24 PM
I discovered that Cerb guards the third circle of hell, or so says Dante.
 
I see. I imagine he does it by chasing his tail.
 
Oh Android tablet market! Why are you so complicated that it takes me a spreadsheet to understand which product to buy?
 
Actually, it says that he flays souls. Close though, @matt.
 
It also says he is constantly baying.
 
8:28 PM
is this
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Q: What is the proper use to add [sic] in a sentence

wargerThis has always confused me I don't exactly know when to add it when I am quoting someone...

a dupe of this
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Q: The usage of "sic" in writing

Raj MoreI have seen many articles that use quotes from players like: We gonna [sic] be working hard over the summer cause we gotta [sic] get better. What is sic? Where does it come from?

?
I think yes
@Mahnax baying and flaying. He's such a multi-tasker :)
 
@MattЭллен I actually didn't vote to close that one because it seemed like they made a legit effort to look it up and still had a question specifically about AmE vs BrE that has a sort of interesting answer
 
@aediaλ fair enough. Daniel's answer is good, too
 
@MattЭллен Auugh! I am sic of those!
 
Okay, now that's enough break time playing on the review tab before my sunny chocolate-eating attitude wears off :)
Also, the chocolate is gone
 
8:35 PM
oh noes!
i'm also out of jelly babies, so I understand you plight
 
but what are you going to offer to the aliens when you emerge from the TARDIS and trip over your scarf now!?
 
ahhhh. I hadn't thought this through.
hugs?
 
internet hugs
 
internet hugs back
 
Just put on your bathrobe and we'll go down to the pub while the steamrollers come.
 
8:38 PM
Don't forget your towel.
and your Lego. Not sure you can get that anywhere but here.
 
:D
the peanuts are on me
 
ack! choke! kills us it doesss! ssss!
we must starve!
gollum gollum
 
Are you allergic too? I feel like we probably discussed this before
 
We can lick martini glasses to get the salt required for space travel?
 
8:42 PM
when I was young the list was: peanuts, nuts, peas, beans, (soy, coffee, chocolate)
 
I think that was the reason for the peanuts right
 
yeah, I think that's right
 
now the list is: peanuts, nuts? peas? (the last two are probably me being over-cautious)
 
I can't have sunflower seeds for some reason, but I don't have much of an anaphylactic reaction to them or hives, not compared to peanuts, I just puke and fun stuff
 
heck even "peanuts" might be "peanuts?" but I'm too scared to do the test required to find out.
@aediaλ if they make you puke this time, they could make you choke next time.
 
8:45 PM
Yeah I avoid 'em, but I don't avoid peanut oil and sunflower oil since those are in so much stuff and I've been ok mostly
 
@aediaλ probably, if your allergy isn't severe, you can eat the oils because they remove the protein to make oil.
 
Exactly
 
gotta go... cya folks.
 
cya @MrShinyandNew
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Bye! hands towel
Every once in a blue moon when I smell peanuts instead of smelling awful it actually smells good, and I'm tempted to taste it for just a second until the smell starts to be like enough particles or something that it gets in my throat and I start feeling a little itch and I'm like waitno that's poison not food
 
8:50 PM
:(
 
Like on the plane line that still has peanuts, or my husband getting peanut butter on a rare occasion (we don't usually have it in the house since why bother having something we have to worry about contaminating things)
It's funny, like how I repeatedly ate clam chowder until I figured out not to and stopped getting sick from it
 
does clam chowder have peanuts in it?
 
Shellfish.
 
oh right
 
Also allergic to shellfish, or something. Not been tested, because I don't care whether it's like a real allergy or not, it's easy to avoid
 
8:53 PM
true
 
I pretty much like all food that isn't trying to kill me so it's not like I need to worry about expanding a limited set of options into those two
 
plus, you're not missing much with shellfish, IMO
 
They seem weird and dirty and kind of hard to eat anyway
 
And if I were starving on a desert island I could probably eat seaweed instead
 
8:55 PM
yeah, or fish (or are you allergic to fish?)
 
Mmm, seaweed wraps
Not normal kinds of fish
I even tried octopus and that was ok
 
golly!
 
I actually really love sushi, I just avoid like, crustaceans and mollusks and stuff for the most part. I'm not sure what octopi are
Hmm I guess they are in fact molluscs
 
weird is what they are, with their tentacles and huge brains with no skull
 
Well those dirty bivalves and univalves I certainly don't consume, anyhow
Haha yes
 
9:00 PM
I've not had much in the way of shellfish. Prawns are alright. I remember having mussels once, but I don't remember if I liked them.
 
prawn = shrimp?
 
sort of
 
We don't say prawn here, or at least not on menus
 
I think they're different things, biologically speaking
maybe not though
wiki will know!
 
Prawns are decapod crustaceans of the suborder Dendrobranchiata. There are 540 extant species, in seven families, and a fossil record extending back to the Devonian. They differ from other, similar crustaceans, such as Caridea (shrimp) and Stenopodidea (boxer shrimp) by the branching form of the gills and by the fact that they do not brood their eggs, but release them directly into the water. They may reach a length of over and a mass of , and are widely fished and farmed for human consumption. Shrimp and prawns While in biological terms shrimps and prawns belong to different suborders...
Huh. Kinda cute... we had crayfish in 5th grade science, makes me think of them
 
9:01 PM
Shrimp are swimming, decapod crustaceans classified in the infraorder Caridea, found widely around the world in both fresh and salt water. Adult shrimp are filter feeding benthic animals living close to the bottom. They can live in schools and can swim rapidly backwards. Shrimp are an important food source for larger animals from fish to whales. They have a high tolerance to toxins in polluted areas, and may contribute to high toxin levels in their predators. Together with prawns, shrimp are widely caught and farmed for human consumption. Taxonomy A number of more or less unrelated crus...
that looks like a lobster...
 
Hmm, yeah, and I don't see him anywhere in the article
 
nor me
 
Aw I feel bad for all those extinct genera who don't have a home in any superfamily
 
that's evolution for you. you snooze you lose
maybe they've been put to work in undersea workhouses like victorian orphans
 
laughs, then feels bad for laughing
Ooh I learned a word! the etymology section sez
> the Old Norse skorpna, meaning to shrivel up
 
9:10 PM
skorpna
nice
oh! there's that picture, right at the bottom there
why'd the chat system pick that one?
so unfathomable
 
Interestingly, etymonline doesn't mention that and does mention skreppa "thin person", but has skorpna mentioned in etymology for scorch
 
@aedia Have you or your husband tried soy-butter? it supposedly tastes exactly like peanut butter.
 
@MattЭллен Oh! in the expandy box things! I see it now
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Hmm, no. I tried almond butter I think, a while ago, and it was a little weird
 
@aediaλ oh! conflicting. who do we trust more?
 
@aediaλ I eat soy butter now. I like it. But since I've never had peanut butter, I can't make any claims as to the authenticity. But my wife (also allergic to peanuts) can't stand the smell of it, too close to peanuts.
 
9:15 PM
@aediaλ wikipedia have taken it from merriam webster
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Soy does occasionally seem peanuty to me... also, cashews have tricked me/made me paranoid.
 
ok leaving again. bye!
 
I think I would probably like it if I can get over the fear of eating something wrong accidentally.
 
toodles, @MrShinyandNew
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Bye again!
Man I need to accomplish more than looking at shrimp
 
9:18 PM
:D
 
I wrote an email but then I kind of stagnated on the productivity train
Hmm, not stagnated, stalled?
Stagflated
 
got delayed by leaves on the line?
lol Stagflated
 
Hey don't star me, I didn't make it up! It's like, a thing that happened once in the economy or something
 
really? Well you taught it to me :)
but, as you wish!
 
Reindeer got too fat to bring the sleigh at Christmas so prices went up and children were sad.
 
9:21 PM
awwww. poor kiddy-winks
 
Or so I've been told. The worst case of stagflation was before my time.
 
so what is your next task?
 
I have to look at the webpage and write a little bit of text to add to it to explain something and I'm just procrastinating terribly on it and trying to convince myself that thinking about the (lower priority) logo is ok.
But really I should just write the darn text.
sulks
 
it is ok
 
Maybe I should close Photoshop because then I don't have the logo staring at me pretending it's making itself.
 
9:25 PM
you'll be thinking about the words n stuff subconsciously anyway
 
Yeah.
 
or you could use the logo as a reward and get the text done super quick
 
I like that. I do want to play with it way more than any of this other stoopid stuff
I started a bit, closing Photoshop was apparently a good idea (I guess I do whatever is in front of me, just like I eat what's in front of me...)
 

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