English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

@Robusto “That was in response to an act of war, not a political disagreement” - Even if Litvinenko (the guy who was poisoned in the UK) was really poisoned by Putin (something that has yet to be proved, by the way; perhaps, you know nothing about his problems with Spanish mafia), it was

@Robusto also a response to an act of war. Litvinenko, a Russian KGB intelligent officer, sided with Chechen radical Muslim extremists with whom Russia was and still is in the state of on-going war. They are those who killed about 200 children in Beslan and whom the USA holds on the same black list of terrorists with Osama Bin Laden.

@Robusto “Also, if you're attempting to draw a moral equivalence there, the U.S. president owned up to the deed and accepted the diplomatic consequences. Putin did the opposite” - WOW! So, in terms of moral, it’s not really that important whether a person was assassinated or not. What really is

@Robusto important is whether or not the diplomatic consequences are accepted, right? Your logic nd the concept of moral are just amazing! In fact, it’s merely that double-standard philosophy of the West that we all too much aware of here in Russia. Just as I told you

@DavidWallace Well, living in a country that doesn't figure in world politics, and is known mainly for wool and Peter Jackson. But you might do well to look up the word precedent in the dictionary.

@Robusto earlier: you are practicing the same dirty things, but whenever Russia acts in this way, the West is right there to start whining about no democracy and the lack of human rights in Russia.

@Robusto By the way, the Attorney General of the USA spoke just on time in this regard: “Eric Holder: U.S. can kill American citizens overseas in terror fight” Here is the link: q13fox.com/news/…

we do it to America just as much

@brilliant Yeah, yeah, Putin is a misunderstood saint, not a KGB thug, and Obama is Hitler. Have it your way. And by the way, if you have read any of my posts here you'll see I take a very jaundiced view of American politics as well — but I'll be damned if I'm going to acquiesce to the neo-Stalinist party line. Your rhetoric is vitriol, your logic absent, your tone strident. Keep up the diatribe and I will have no choice but to click the ignore button, because you're becoming Fox News in here.

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@David Wallace: What I meant to say, before I got @-bombed, was "Well, living in a country that doesn't figure in world politics, and is known mainly for wool and Peter Jackson, you have that luxury. But you might do well to look up the word precedent in the dictionary."

Jan 5 at 3:08, by Robusto

It can't happen here. Well, until Senate Bill 1867 passed and was signed into law by the president.

Jan 6 at 1:45, by Robusto

I live in Massachusetts, and both John Kerry and Scott Brown voted for S. 1867. I emailed them both that I would work to defeat them in the next election, and I mean it.

Jan 17 at 14:30, by Robusto

@MrShinyandNew安宇 — Don't bet the ranch on that. Obama said he would veto S. 1867 as well, and look what happened.

yesterday, by Robusto

@brilliant Or Putin's chief rival would be in prison. Or his enemies would be assassinated abroad with dangerous radioactive isotopes. Don't worry, you could still get the Gulag back. For that matter, so could we.

Jan 6 at 1:40, by Robusto

I'm a lifelong Democrat, but I refuse to vote for Obama this year now that he's signed that bill into law even after he promised he would veto it.

Jan 6 at 1:31, by Robusto

I'm considering saying fuck the 2-party system and voting for Gary Johnson. I mean, he couldn't be worse than Obama or the Republican deck of jokers we see now. And both my senators voted for that bill. I feel betrayed.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

11:22 AM

Ok @Reg, I surged against everyone in our faction. I take my words back, my ratio is only 38/8. Such nice defense decks!

12:03 PM

@Robusto "Yeah, yeah, Putin is a misunderstood saint, not a KGB thug, and Obama is Hitler. Have it your way. And by the way, if you have read any of my posts here you'll see I take a very jaundiced view of American politics as well" - And if you

have read my very recent posts, you might have noticed that I never considered Putin to be a saint either. You are attaching wrong meaning to my posts. All I say is Putin and Russia are acting in just as corrupt way as the West. (Ironically, that guy that was poisoned in

the UK also falls in the category of KGB thugs, but the Western media quickly forgets this fact). But I do think that at the present time Putin is the best choice for Russia. As for Obama, I don't know. Perhaps, he is good for the USA, perhaps, he is bad - I don't

really know. I am not a citizen of the USA, so it's not my business. As long as Obama or any other president of any other country doesn't pose any threat to my country I am fine with that.

@Robusto Do you think we could somehow tackle Putin? Granted, he has had the means to get himself a disproportionate share of mass-media presence during the election campaign, but still, outside the big cities we have a fair amount of people—40 to 50 per cent of total voters I think—who would cast their ballot for Putin anyway. They are now well into their 50s+, and as a consequence of their Soviet upbringing, it doesn't ever occur to them that voting for another candidate might be an option.

@Robusto Then add their memories of the 90s into the bargain, and you'll have a pretty much correct picture of their psychology. The fact that many candidates are denied registration by the Central Elections Committee doesn't really help either. Oh, and nobody wants another putsch. Any ideas?

@Robusto "Keep up the diatribe and I will have no choice but to click the ignore button" - I am sorry pal, but the diatribe was started by you. You seem to get too emotional when some arguments are presented to you.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Why are we discussing politics? This is the English room.

@brilliant You flatter yourself.

Because the English discuss politics?

12:10 PM

@Vitaly See if @RegDwight will give you a bedroom in his new mansion?

@Robusto :) nice joke!

@brilliant I always let the asshole have the last word. Go ahead.

@Robusto Not enough space for a Russian Russian. I'll take the whole mansion.

if @Reg got bitten by a radioactive spider, would he become SpiderOwl?

@Vitaly "Oh, and nobody wants another putsch" - I agree with that. Even though it was the time of my youth and everything was so romantic, so to say, at that time. I really don't want that to happen again.

12:16 PM

Honestly, I'd rather have a putsch than Putin as the head of state ~~for the next 6~~ until he leaves the office naturally.

> If there is a word [for aunt and uncle] I would like to know the inverse as well, i.e. for 'nephew/niece'.

so, if you turn a child on its head, does it become its own parent?

@Vitaly "Honestly, I'd rather have a putsch than Putin as the head of state" - Well, this is your view, Vitaly, which you have the right to have and I do respect your view, even though I don't share it. Obviously, we don't see eye to eye with each other, but I have no desire

to bring our discussion to the same point as with Robusto (in fact I am a bit disappointed by him. I thought he was more up for having a civil discussion).

I am quite afraid of the civil war

especially in Russia, because if it starts, then

all the nuclear arsenal can easily get into the hand of radical Muslims

and then it will be a world disaster.

do you accidentally hit you enter key a lot, @brilliant?

Gotta motor. Laterz.