English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

user19161

12:38 AM

@Robusto Poo makes you feel shitty, so instead of poo just pee.

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 Well, I am not in a position to judge the correctness of that, so I have no comments. But let us be fair to him and not think he is wrong if we are not sure.

user19161

@Jez What do you mean exactly?

user19161

@Jez What comes to mind is boisterous.

Mitch

1:10 AM

@Jez 'vocal' isn't as colorful as your examples, but it captures someone who speaks up to hopefully get what they want.

Jim

I would like some feedback on a feature-request I submitted in Meta. I asked for the ability to "favorite' an answer. It seems to be getting no traction at all. I saw JohnLawler's answer earlier today on Quantifier/Determiners vs Adverbs and thought, "Wow, that's great. I'd like to favorite that" - but there's not facility to do that. I don't want to favorite the question because, really, it's nothing special. So, what's not to like about my suggestion?

@Jez squeaky wheel brings to mind 'whiner' in my book... (Is that 'whinger' on the other side of the pond?)

Cerberus

1:54 AM

@Jim I support your idea, though I don't have a need for it personally (favouring the question works well enough for me).

JSBᾶngs

@RegDwightѬſ道 OMFG

Robusto

2:11 AM

@WillHunting Thanks for the tip.

Jim

2:29 AM

@Cerberus Thanks Cerberus

Cerberus

2:45 AM

@Jim Good luck on your quest, hehe.

Jim

heh

You could upvote it if you really wanted to support it...

Cerberus

3:10 AM

Done! I hadn't seen the question yet.

Mahnax

Hello.

Cerberus

Hi!

I'm creating a home network, for the first time in my life.

I wonder whether it will work.

Jim

3:36 AM

How complicated will it be? DMZ, firewall, separate subnets for wireless and wired?

Mahnax

Ah, cool!

I've decided to read LotR again.

Jim

@Mahnax I have been thinking that recently as well- I last read it about 1977 I think.

Mahnax

@Jim Heh. I read it four years ago.

But I was 11 at the time.

Jim

I would have been 14

Mahnax

3:51 AM

@Cerberus there read it when he was 11 too.

Jim

So I was really into the parts with Frodo and Sam and really wanted the big tactical battle scenes to be over and done with as quickly as possible.

Cerberus

@Jim Very simple: just two computers sharing a wireless router.

But I can't get it to work.

@Jim Haha, understandable.

@Mahnax Yay, then we were both young!

It is like the Battle of Austerlitz in War and Peace.

Mahnax

@Cerberus Yes, we established this yesterday or the day before.

Jim

Hmmm. you've got the router set up for DHCP server and the two laptops for DHCP client.. and the sercurity types set correctly (WPA2, WEP, etc)

Mahnax

@Cerberus Goodness. I tried reading that and was bored out of my mind for the 100 pages that I did get through.

Cerberus

3:54 AM

@Jim Ehh I followed the instruction on the MS website. I was able to see the other computer under Network Places (XP). Then I rebooted, but now each compute can only see itself in Network Places.

@Mahnax Really? But it's great!

Perhaps try it again sometime when you're in the mood.

Mahnax

@Cerberus Meh. It was just Russian and French people socializing.

Cerberus

What's not to like about that?

Mahnax

snores

Not my kind of reading material.

Cerberus

I suppose you want aliens firing laser guns, huh.

Mahnax

I got 550 pages into the Wealth of Nations once.

@Cerberus Not even.

I want a storyline, a plot.

Cerberus

3:56 AM

@Mahnax And you didn't find that boring?

Mahnax

So far, there hadn't really been one.

Cerberus

W&P has a great plot. With many subplots.

Mahnax

@Cerberus I did, but I had accepted a challenge.

Cerberus

Haha.

Mahnax

The challenge didn't even exist.

Cerberus

3:57 AM

You accepted nothingness?

Mahnax

My social teacher said "this will put you to sleep" and I said "challenge accepted."

Jim

Have you read George RR Martin?

Moi ou Cerb?

either

Nay.

3:58 AM

Nope, but heard good things about it.

Jim

yeah, I really enjoyed it, but it takes him so long to put the next one out. I waited over a year for one and over 2 (maybe 3?) for the last.. And there's one more to go. I hope he doesn't die before finishing it

Cerberus

@Mahn I'm sure you will eventually appreciate the great Russian writers.

Mahnax

@Cerberus I have the book on my iPod so that I can finish it.

Cerberus

@Jim Yikes, yes, waiting for book to come out is looong.

Mahnax

I will finish it.

Cerberus

4:00 AM

Is it an audio book?

Mahnax

No.

Cerberus

So you read books on a tiny screen?

Mahnax

Yes.

One real page = 5 or 6 iPod pages.

Definitely usable, for me.

And the books are free with the app I got.

Cerberus

Hmm.

It sounds ehm suboptimal.

Okay, I give up on this stupid network.

Mahnax

It's not bad.

I rather enjoy it.

Cerberus

4:03 AM

Dropbox works well enough anyway.

Mahnax

It's actually easier than holding a book, especially in bed, or in the dark.

Cerberus

I often read the news on my phone, but I don't enjoy it.

But the tiny pages!

Jim

@Cerberus so the machines are on the network they just can't see each other?

Are you running any firewall software anywhere?

Cerberus

@Jim Each machine says it's on the network, but it can only see itself.

@Jim Only default XP firewalls.

But at first they could see each other (until I rebooted both), but I was unable to actually map a network drive somehow.

Jim

no routing restrictions in the router? Can you ping one's IP from the other and get packets?

Cerberus

4:07 AM

Ehh how do I do that?

I'm a total layman.

Some command line IPconfig thingy?

Jim

open a dos shell and say > ping 192.168.1.2 or whatever your machines IP addrs are

Cerberus

How do I know what they are?

Mahnax

Google "what is my IP address".

Jim

yes, to find the IP addr you can run ipconfig /all

Cerberus

Just the IP address that the internet sees?

Jim

4:09 AM

yes, find the adapter for your wireless and look at the Ipv4 Address

Cerberus

Is that not the same as what Google tells?

I tried, but it said "request timed out" several times.

Jim

it is likely not because the router is likely doing Network address translation- I.e., it gets its IP from your service provider uses it, while it hands you out an address from its private subnet likely in the 192.168.x.x subnet

Cerberus

Okay, I tried the one I found in Ipconfig, and it seems to be working.

0 % loss.

Jim

so you can ping the second's from the first

s and vice versa

Cerberus

I can ping from my laptop to my desktop, which I am on now.

With the 192.168.1.6 address.

The other way around works too.

From desktop to 192.168.1.7.

Jim

4:16 AM

ok, cool, that means that you have connectivity

Cerberus

Hmm...

Jim

now you need to get Windows configured to share

Cerberus

I did that.

Ran the Network wizard thingy on both computers.

I shared a folder.

But each computer thinks it is alone in the workgroup.

Jim

but the workgroup you have them assigned to is the same?

Cerberus

Yes, the exact same name. And at first I could see both computers under the workgroup on this computer.

Jim

4:19 AM

I don't have an XP machine any more- ( I moved to Win7 last year) but somewhere there should be a setting to enable Network discovery

Cerberus

I think the network-setup wizard was for that.

I did it, and it worked, briefly.

Hey, somehow the workgroup name show up differently in this other screen.

Jim

maybe you can bypass that and use the IP address directly- So if your folder is shared as let's say: PublicShare then you could do "Map network drive" and give it a url of \\192.168.1.6\PublicShare (use the IP addr of the machine that owns the share)

Cerberus

Oh, yes good idea! I will do that if this fails.

Now it wants me to restart again...

Jim

I hate that

Mahnax

settles in, begins reading

Cerberus

4:28 AM

Back.

Jim

so you fixed the workgroup names?

Cerberus

Yes. They are now the same again. But I think they were the same all the time, except for that brief moment when I had run that identification wizard again.

Jim

wierd

Cerberus

Should I use the name WORKGROUP, then? I'm using a different name for both now.

Jim

nope, doesn't have to be

Cerberus

4:35 AM

@Jim So what does "owning a share" mean?

Jim

the computer on whose disk the directory resides "owns the share" and the other computer "mounts" the share...

Cerberus

Ah OK.

Trying to add the laptop by IP address as you suggested, but it says the folder is invalid.

Jim

hmmm

Cerberus

Pinging still works.

Now I tried to add just the IP address (no \SharedDocs), but it says I need a shared folder.

Jim

So if you go to the directory above the one you want to share (so you see it as a directory in the list) right-click Properties, Sharing tab- what Network path does it show?

Cerberus

4:40 AM

In Explorer?

Jim

yes

Cerberus

The box "share this folder" is ticked.

Share name is SharedDocs.

Jim

ok, good

so you should be able to see it as \\192.168.1.6\SharedDocs

Cerberus

And yet it says the folder is invalid!

Jim

that is strange

I'm starting up a XP virtual machine so I can see XP-style dialogs...

Cerberus

4:44 AM

Haha cool.

I tried the Wireless Network Setup Wizard, which wants me to use flash drives to create a network, but that doesn't work either.

Jim

I had to configure Network Sharing on the VM

Cerberus

Through the wizard?

I think I did all that properly, and it seemed to work for a moment.

Jim

yeah, it was a brand new VM instance

Cerberus

Hmm...

Jim

Well, it looks like XP doesn

t give you the full network path for the share

(apostrophe too close to the Return key)

Cerberus

4:54 AM

Did you know you can edit an old line by pressing Up in the empty typing box?

Jim

No I didn't

Cerberus

@Jim Indeed it does not, but it allows you to brows network places, and that's where the workgroup and its computers show up.

Jim

Well, if you can see it in there then you should be all set

Cerberus

The problem is that I don't.

Jim

that's what I thought

Cerberus

4:56 AM

On my desktop, I see only my desktop in the workgroup, and vice versa.

Well, not vice versa, but you get what I mean, hehe.

Jim

yes

Cerberus

But I saw both computers in the list at first.

I can't imagine what I'm doing wrong.

Actually I don't think I'm doing anything wrong.

Jim

In Control Panel: Windows Firewall "Exceptions" tab, is File and Printer Sharing checked?

Cerberus

Yes.

On both computers.

Jim

Hmm, seems like it ought to work

Cerberus

5:00 AM

kicks stupid computers

Jim

I dunno

Cerberus

Yeah it's weird.

Team Viewer work fine between them.

Mahnax

@Cerberus Ha.

Cerberus

But that goes through the Internet.

@Mahnax You laugh, little apple!

Mahnax

@Cerberus I am, and shall continue to do so!

Cerberus

5:01 AM

Perhaps it is something with my router-modem.

@Mahnax Pah!

I'll get you yet! shakes fist

Mahnax

@Cerberus Cool it, gramps!

Cerberus

shakes other fist

and vodka-martini

Mahnax

Careful, you have arthritis!

Cerberus

At least I have learned how to walk already.

Jim

Oh, that could be. It needs to configured to pass NetBEUI

Mahnax

5:03 AM

@Cerberus Yeah well I'm young and spry!

Cerberus

@Jim But would it allow pinging if it weren't so configured?

@Mahnax And yet you have a wobbly gait!

Jim

yes, pinging is ICMP - a different protocol

Mahnax

@Cerberus Still practising!

Cerberus

And now I can't log into my router any more.

I'm sure the password is right.

Jim

Oops

Cerberus

5:08 AM

Now that I think of it, soon after I got it, somehow I was unable to connect to it through cable (only wireless).

Which was weird too.

Jim

are you wireless from both computers? Sometimes routers are configured to allow administration from wired connections only (for security)

Cerberus

Yes, both wireless.

But I changed the password two weeks ago.

And wired hasn't worked for a year or so.

I could reset my router, but it's working now, and I'd rather not tear open who knows what.

I can live with not having a network.

Or wired internet.

Jim

I can understand that

Cerberus

Or access to the modem.

But thanks for trying to help me!!

Now I know it's not my stupidity.

Jim

Well, sorry I couldn't be of help...

Cerberus

5:12 AM

You have helped in as much that I now know it is impossible, haha.

Jim

Ha!

Good night all

Mahnax

Night.

Cerberus

Night!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:35 AM

1

Q: Neihter and either usage in negative sentence

I would like to make sure I understood the usage of these: Do you want A or B? I do not want either //none of them I want neihter //can I say that?

I wonder who's upvoting this.

David Wallace

10:00 AM

@RegDwight - the world would be less interesting if everybody had the same opinions as you.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

It's not about opinion.

It's plain about form.

If you gonna upvote a question, at least fix the blatant misspellings.

David Wallace

I can understand why lots of people wouldn't do that.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Of course.

0

Q: Why do some non-English words become English words?

Why do some non-English words become English words even though there is already are English words meaning the same thing that are more universally understandable? For example, He received kudos from everyone on his performance. - dictionary.reference.com The word kudos [koo-dohz, -dohs, -d...

history transliteration

Robusto

@RegDwightѬſ道 I didn't upvote, but I did edit.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Hahaha check out the comment exchange.

Robusto

10:11 AM

And I answered both. Sue me.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Robusto Yeah I noticed. Thanks for doing the legwork for him.

@Robusto I will sue you later. Now go check out that comment exchange.

Robusto

I did. Pretty funny.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Well, on to sueiueing you, then!

Robusto

You can't sue me from my back yard. Lawyers do not like to go there.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Don't gonna sue from backyard. That one guy you will meet in the next twenty-odd years might, but also mightn't, be a lawyer of mine.

Robusto

10:15 AM

In the middle of the day I would let neihter pass, but when I just get out of bed it is such a bare burning lightbulb of error that I have to do something about it.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Like, stomp foot?

Robusto

Like, stomp misspelling.

0

Q: What are the references of the words in the paragraph?

While reading an article about persuasive games, I stumble upon this paragraph, which I do not understand the meaning of the sentences from the way they are structured. The concept of authorship incorporates another feature of art more broadly: the pursuit of a particular truth irrespective...

meaning-in-context sentence-patterns

More pineapple humor, I suppose.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Yeah I liked the title so much I was afraid to click and read more.

Robusto

Do words require references to be in your paragraph, good sir?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

They do not exactly require, but I do them the favor.

I'm like generous and such.

Robusto

10:18 AM

You generous and such are.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

There was another funny one that fell off everybody's radar.

-1

Q: Present perfect tense

When changing a sentence to present perfect tense, is it compulsory the verb changes tense too. For instance 'David begins his training today' changes to 'David has begun his training already'. Does the sentence 'David runs every day' changes to 'David has run as many as five miles today' or 'Da...

tense

Robusto

We are becoming the Dinner for Schmucks of SE sites.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Actually it only occurs to me now how awesome the first sentence is.

Robusto

@RegDwightѬſ道 I saw that, and even thought about answering, but then I said to myself, "What's the use?" This guy has a verbal leg off and here we are putting bandaids on it.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

If you change a sentence to another tense, you also have to change the verb to another tense. Simply changing the sentence but not the verb won't cut it!

Robusto

10:22 AM

2 mins ago, by Robusto

We are becoming the Dinner for Schmucks of SE sites.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

I blame capitalism.

Robusto

That's your excuse for everything.

►

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Well I have only watched it once, but I did laugh.

I'll get back to you after the remaining 99 times.

Gigili

'Ello, can I use "breaking into one's house" when it's police who is doing it?

break in/break into sth: to get into a building or car using force, usually to steal something

David Wallace

Yes.

Gigili

10:34 AM

Thank you.

Is "people are getting doubtful about something" correct?

David Wallace

@Gigili - for "break in", the OED gives "To force one's way in, enter forcibly or abruptly; to make an irruption". This is the 1971 edition, but I don't believe the meaning has changed since then.

"People are getting doubtful about something" sounds awkward to me, and I would probably try to write it differently. But I don't think it's ungrammatical.

Gigili

@DavidWallace Yes, that was the CDO definition.

@DavidWallace What would you say instead?

David Wallace

@Gigili Can you give me more context?

Gigili

Are getting pessimistic?

David Wallace

What's the "something" that people are getting doubtful about?

Gigili

10:44 AM

"People are pessimistic about X, and they have gotten away from it; they are skeptical about the origin and the basis of it"

David Wallace

What's X?

Gigili

But it doesn't sound correct to me because it has not happened yet.

I cannot give you more context =\

David Wallace

How about reversing the whole lot. "People are skeptical about the origin and basis of eggnog, and are starting to express their doubts about it."

Gigili

@DavidWallace Much better, thank you.

David Wallace

No probs. How are you today, anyway, Gigili?

Gigili

10:49 AM

I'm fine, thank you. How are you?

David Wallace

Quite tired. This is my last week with my current client, and I'm trying to finish off as much of my work as I can for them.

Gigili

Good luck, is it late there?

David Wallace

It will be midnight very soon, and I shall turn into a pumpkin.

hippietrail

hi people. are questions about old english on or off topic or does "it depend"?

David Wallace

Nobody knows what's on-topic and off-topic on ELU. It depends on the mood of the moderator.

I'd say, ask it and see what happens.

hippietrail

10:55 AM

specifically i wanted to know if a class of questions would be acceptable here, namely questions of the type "what word did english use for "glory" or "honour" before these were borrowed from french?"

David Wallace

@RegDwight - hippietrail is talking to you.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Oh.

@hippietrail the current consensus is that these would be on-topic.

hippietrail

well to anybody who has a better feel for the site than me. i can also ask on meta if it's a good question

my followup question is "is there a tag for these questions?" (-:

RegDwight Ѭſ道

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Q: Are Old and Middle English questions really on-topic?

I asked a question recently (Send, sent; end, *ent?), which hasn’t yet received a straight answer. It leads me to wonder if questions about Old and Middle English are actually on-topic for this site; while it’s certainly acceptable for answers to draw on historical English to substantiate specula...

discussion appropriate-questions

hippietrail

thanks i just found the post independently (-:

Gigili

10:58 AM

@DavidWallace Huh, I keep saying that every night from 1 A.M. and I go to bed at 5 if everything goes well.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

old-english, middle-english, early-modern-english

David Wallace

@Gigili - yes, but you're younger than I am, and no doubt you don't need quite as much sleep as I do.

Gigili

Is this correct: "no right was grossly and obviously destroyed"? Rights will be violated, not destroyed - right?

David Wallace

@hippietrail It's possible you won't get good answers to these questions.

hippietrail

that's ok i know they're long tail questions - if they were easy i would just google them (-;

David Wallace

11:02 AM

@hippietrail or try linguistics.SE.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Rob and Martha might happen to know.

David Wallace

@Gigili I think you're right. Destroying a right sounds incorrect; "violated" is a safer option.

hippietrail

@DavidWallace: yes i'm more active on linguistics than here right now but single language and single word questions are not fully accepted over there and this would pretty much fall into both of those categories

David Wallace

@Gigili or "trampled on" if you want to be a little poetic.

Gigili

Uhum, thank you @DavidWallace.

David Wallace

11:05 AM

@hippietrail - you could ask something like "What would be a good way of finding answers to questions such as - what word did English use for honour or glory before yadda yadda yadda".

hippietrail

hmm it seems the answer might be ār

hmm that would be meta and a bit disappointing to me but if the site is so much more about usage than the other aspects of english so be it

David Wallace

@hippietrail No way am I playing YOU at Scrabble!

hippietrail

@DavidWallace: or just play me when neither of us have internet access and/or time limits per turn are imposed d-;

David Wallace

@hippietrail Yes, but if you asked a dozen or so questions that were all of the form "What word did English use for X", people would stop answering them after the first 2 or 3. Which is why a "teach a man to fish" option might make more sense.

@Gigili Are you writing about recent events for a newspaper?

hippietrail

well that would be so if there is an easy way to find such answers, but it would be akin to directing all asking usage questions to buy a style guide would it not?

no i'm commenting on a recent elu question about kudos

which has piqued my interest (-:

David Wallace

11:13 AM

Funny, some of us were discussing the "kudos" question here, just before you arrived.

Hey @RegDwight, I've just re-read the FAQ for ELU. There's something on it that makes ZERO sense!

hippietrail

i've always read with interest topics on looking for the anglo saxon equivalents of loanwords in modern english. it's come up before at least in works by douglas hofstadter and the site languagehat

Gigili

@DavidWallace Not really, but something like that.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@DavidWallace I'm still waiting.

David Wallace

There is a prohibition against - "Explain this joke to me", except in the case where the crux of the joke relies on an aspect of English covered by one of the welcomed topics above. But if you need the joke to be explained to you, how can you know what the crux of the joke relies on? To know that the question is acceptable, you have to know the answer already.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Ah.

But that's the case with many questions.

Chicken-and-egg.

Has to be decided on a case-by-case basis.

David Wallace

11:17 AM

More like deranged-owl and egg if you ask me.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

No bashing owls in this chat.

David Wallace

@Gigili You're being deliberately abtuse.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

In the case of questions about jokes, the clause is only there in the first place because TPTB wanted to rule them out wholesale.

The community pushed back.

This wishy-washy blabla is the result.

David Wallace

My goodness! The people on math.SE are very very nice. Somebody asked how to simplify (3 * 4 + 2)^2 and nobody downvoted it.

Gigili

@DavidWallace Why downvote?

I bet it got 8473 answers already, people like such easy-to-answer questions there.

David Wallace

11:24 AM

@Gigili You're one of them aren't you? You're one of those nice people! What are you doing over here at ELU?

user19161

@DavidWallace That should be closed as too localised.

David Wallace

@Gigili Yeah, sometimes I look at math.SE, and questions like that are the only ones I can understand!

@WillHunting Please don't. I'll feel like I was the evil snitch.

So, I wonder, did Will Hunting go off to close the question? Or to answer it?

Gigili

To not see you in evil mask?

hippietrail

Isn't it a bit redundant to have all the tags scope, on-topic-off-topic and appropriate-questions?

also i hereby present

0

Q: Would questions seeking native Anglo-Saxon equivalents to English terms borrowed from foreign languages be on-topic?

In a recent question, the OP wanted to know why English would borrow a foreign word like kudos from Greek when we already had two perfectly good English words, honour and glory. I wanted to point out that both of these English words were themselves borrowed from French but I did not know what wo...

discussion on-topic-off-topic appropriate-questions scope

David Wallace

@Gigili Huh?

There, I've just made up for it by providing a good answer to another "should be closed as too localised" question on math.SE

Gigili

11:36 AM

@DavidWallace You need to add dollar signs

David Wallace

I think I did. I edited it after my original posting, to put them in.

@hippietrail Yes, but you don't need an awful lot of reputation to be able to create your own tags. And people do. Often without consulting ME!!

Gigili

I think you mean \times or \cdot by star.

David Wallace

@Gigili You're right, of course. I am a computer programmer by profession, and I become far too used to using asterisk for multiplication. I'll fix it now - thanks for the save.

Anyway, the OP used asterisks.

hippietrail

i'll see if i can suggest synonyms yet. i personally prefer the tag scope but when suggesting synonyms i usually go by which has been the most popular

David Wallace

@Gigili Are you happy now, my pedantic friend?

Gigili

11:41 AM

@DavidWallace Hih, looks great now. See, 3 upvotes so far.

David Wallace

4 now

Let's see if it'll beat my record for math.SE (46)

Gigili

"But the society has been damaged afterwards because of mismanagement and governance of some nonspecialists" - Does it make sense to you @DavidWallace?

David Wallace

Is this a particular society, or society in general? If it's the latter, I'd lose the "the". I'm not sure what you mean by "governance" here. Also, I think "non-specialists" has a hyphen.

Maybe you could write "poor governance" in place of "governance".

Gigili

A particular society

David Wallace

OK, I guess it depends how recently you mentioned it, before this particular sentence. Is it absolutely clear what "the society" refers to? Or would it be better to say "that society" or similar?

And do you mean that it was the non-specialists who did the governance? Or was the governance being done to them? It's ambiguous the way you've written it.

Gigili

11:47 AM

Right, I mean it was the non-specialists who did the governance

David Wallace

Then I'd say "by", not "of".

Gigili

@DavidWallace I guess it's clear enough which society it's referring to

David Wallace

@Gigili, I think I'm going to go to bed now. If you have more English sentences that you want me to look at, could you email them to me and I'll take a look tomorrow after work?

Good night everyone. Nice chatting to you all.

Gigili

@DavidWallace Thank you so much. Good night, sleep well.