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3:02 PM
LoL
 
@tchrist Housses is perfectly normal.
Hey Ale!
 
I would use houzes for the verb and housses for the plural noun.
 
Yes. Actually, houssiz.
 
@Robusto I cannot believe the quantity of bad pronunciation in this chat today
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 No pronouncements in chat.
 
3:07 PM
yeah, we all know the plural of house is hoxen
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Not bad. Just plain wrong.
 
@Mitch NO U R.
 
@Robusto Oh yes. I would do that too. But we are regionally quite close.
Meatball sub!
om nom nom
 
Yeah, it really bothers me now how people pronounce "paths" as /pæθs/ instead of the 'correct' /pæðz/
 
@KitFox Those are not as watertight as you may have been led to believe.
 
3:09 PM
päths
 
@Mitch */paθs/
You mispronounced the correct pronunciation.
 
Are we talking about Bacos again? Even better.
 
/pɑ:ðz/
 
@Cerberus exactly. all sorts of wrongness there. I bet you say /awftn/ for "often" instead of the correct /awfn/
 
I was trying to find some quotes from the BBC saying houses, but instead I found this video, where, alas, they say *homes*—but the views are extraordinarily beautiful!
@Mitch Hmm I have to admit I switch between the two. I think.
@MattЭллен Ehmm no /th/.
 
3:11 PM
"homes" that sounds like a speech impediment.
 
@Mitch Nancy Midford agrees!
 
Nancy Midford is an ass.
 
@Cerberus :Þ
 
who is Nancy Midford again?
 
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Nancy Freeman-Mitford, CBE (28 November 1904, London – 30 June 1973, Versailles), styled The Hon. Nancy Mitford before her marriage and The Hon. Mrs Peter Rodd thereafter, was an English novelist and biographer, one of the Bright Young People on the London social scene in the inter-war years. She was born at 1 Graham Street (now Graham Place) in Belgravia, London, the eldest daughter of Lord Redesdale and was brought up at Asthall Manor in Oxfordshire. She was the eldest of the six controversial Mitford sisters. Biography Novelist and biographer She is best remembered for her series of n...
 
3:13 PM
ooo and arrr English
 
wikitable is U and cellpadding is non-U?
 
@Mitch offun.
 
Something like that.
 
@Cerberus she sounds important.
 
So I say to my son last night "It is so cute the way you imitate Mommy's speech patterns."
 
3:14 PM
Very.
 
She's a Freeman. I wonder if she's related to Gordon?
 
If she agrees with me then she's right.
 
And he said "The corollary to that, Mommy, is that my reading is improving."
 
@KitFox did he use the word 'corollary'?
 
3:15 PM
I'm just kidding. We had no such conversation.
 
You need more spongebob in your house.
oh.
scratch the spongebob
 
He did instruct me to deploy more cannon to provide covering fire for the tanks though.
 
scratch the sponge, bob
 
He is turning into a pretty good strategist.
 
3:16 PM
yay!
 
Either that or he's much better at reading comprehension than I give him credit for.
 
what kinda crazy talk is that? Where is the air cover?
 
We didn't have any.
 
moar cowbell!
 
My son is imitating his parents too much. He has stopped calling the big red dog "Cleeeford" and now calls him "Cliford". But he still watches shows on the tivvy.
 
3:17 PM
Oh cute.
My littlest calls it "teeveeteevee." We think it is a cross between TV and DVD.
 
The tivvy. I see.
Aww.
 
Also, "Mommy, I play bowling on your tablet?" is about the clearest thing he can say right now.
 
I am trying to teach my daughter the difference between a CD, a DVD, and a BD.
 
Just call them all discs.
And keep your fingers off them!
 
3:19 PM
@KitFox but they dont' work in the same machines
 
Details, details.
heehee
 
well, I guess I don't have a DVD player anymore. Well, not one that's hooked up.
 
What's a BD?
 
BluRay.
 
@Cerberus blu ray
 
3:20 PM
And the D...?
 
We play everything in the PS3 anyway.
 
I see.
 
I don't actually refer to them as "bee dee" in speech. But in typing I'm lazy.
And typing "BluRay" is hard for me because it's spelled rong.
 
Why not just spell it Blue Ray?
I would always do that.
Don't give in to illiterate marketing departments.
 
3:21 PM
Because that's also wrong.
 
Billy Rae
 
Maybe they understood italians are superior, therefore they chose "blu" :P
 
It's not wrong.
Heh. Blu Raggio, yes, why not!
 
No, it is wrong. That isn't the name of the product. Names are not necessarily words.
 
I don't freaking care what they want me to call it.
They are wrong, not I.
 
3:22 PM
Raggio Blu
 
Don't get me started!
 
@Cerberus lol! :D Raggio blu, better.
 
So if I wanted to call you Cerebus, that'd be okay? because you don't get to choose your own name, the masses do?
 
Yeah, already had "Raggio Blu" typed out, then decided that keeping the same word order would be necessary to keep it recognizable.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Not the masses: the literati.
 
@Cerberus Ah that...
 
3:24 PM
@Cerberus sorry, I meant to write the hoi polloi
 
If my name contained a weird error, you would be allowed to correct it, yes.
 
toro straccio
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Ahhhh!
slap
 
@Cerberus Why should other people be allowed to correct your name?
 
Why not?
Let people write whatever they like.
 
3:24 PM
You chose it. That's your choice. Other people can be annoyed by it but it isn't theirs to "fix"
 
Sure it is, if they know better.
 
Alas @Kerberos won't work in chat
 
As long as I recognise my name and am pinged by it, there is no harm.
 
@Cerberus HA! says the guy who gets annoyed when people write "the hoi polloi". Even though it is demonstrably the case that the phrase was imported in that way into English, despite its origins.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 What is that?
 
3:26 PM
@Alenanno "hoi polloi" means "the people" but in English it was imported as one single unit, so English speakers write "the hoi polloi" even though people who've studied ancient Greek get annoyed by that.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 They may write as they like, but I am allowed to dislike it.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 No, it means "the many".
 
@Cerberus whatever
 
As in polyandry.
 
hoi polyandry
 
@Andrew Oops! I missed the part where you said "offensive." Sawree.
 
3:28 PM
Hoi indeed.
And hoi means hi in Dutch.
 
the hello many
 
Polyandry means something completely different to me.
 
Anyway, I maintain that people are free to dislike a name that annoys them, such as BluRay or Blu-Ray or whatever it is, or iPhone, but writing it differently than the way it was coined is wrong.
 
@KitFox Maybe try it again?
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Then let's agree to disagree.
 
@KitFox I even gave it the right tag. The question is reasonable but provocative.
 
3:30 PM
I particularly dislike brand names that use K where a C should be.
 
Blu-Ray is already much better than BluRay, btw.
 
@KitFox like "Cerberus (tm)"
 
@KitFox Ugh, don't get me started!
 
@AndrewLeach Yeah, maybe. Sounds like it might be intentionally so. I protected it though.
 
Kokakola
 
3:31 PM
@Alenanno among other things, I steel do not understand if "indeed" means "peraltro" are you so kind to briefly explain this to me?
 
@Carlo_R. steel -> still
 
There's a shop along a common route here called "Krafty Kreations." Every time I pass it, I want to deface it.
 
So I guess the officially trademarked name is "Blu-ray Disc"
 
@Carlo_R. Different things... Check this page: wordreference.com/enit/indeed
 
Thank you Matt
 
3:32 PM
no probs :)
 
Thank you Ale
 
You're welcome!
 
@KitFox Ahh horrible.
 
:)
 
And those people think they are so funny and klever!
 
3:33 PM
@KitFox So you don't like Krispy Kreme doughnuts (donuts) then?
 
Meanie...
 
@KitFox they might as well call it Krafti Kriayshunz
 
@AndrewLeach Well, let's not be hasty.
It depends whether the Hot Light is On.
remembers the curly-haired boy fondly
then remembers that he is probably gay and wasn't ever really into her that way
 
Unpossible.
 
Stupid doughnuts.
 
3:35 PM
@MattЭллен I'm afraid I will have to censor that.
It is simply impossible to look at.
 
put your blinkers on
the goggles do nothing!
 
I remember a luxury food store labeled...
 
@MattЭллен The only thing I can figure is that the operator's name must be Kraft. Otherwise, it just doesn't make sense.
 
La Belle Kuisine.
 
Ouch!
 
3:36 PM
gack!
 
faints
 
Good lord. Of the eight thousand or so "Krafty Kreations" online, only one of them was run by someone named Kraft.
I hate people.
 
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Q: What is a woggy dago?

Mr ListerI was listening to a song the other day, and it featured the words "woggy dago". Now I did manage to find out what dago means, but I'm still not clear about woggy. It isn't in the dictionary, and while I could find it on the net, none of the apparent meanings fit the context in the song. I al...

 
smacks people
 
I read that as ' a soggy hotdog'
 
3:39 PM
mmm soggy hotdogs
 
@KitFox these people clearly have no respect
 
I think I'm giving polyandry another chance, because I can't decide whom I love more: my dishwasher or my Galaxy Nexus.
 
respect-> brain cells.
 
@Cerberus but you're not a woman...
 
@Cerberus what? the Galaxy nexus! man, I can't express in words just how damn useful my GN was on my trip
 
3:39 PM
@Robusto Wog isn't strictly BrE. I've heard it around these parts.
 
@MattЭллен So what?
 
Your galaxy Nexus can wash dishes? Do not give that up.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I know! But! Dishwashy is soooo cute and handy!
 
@Cerberus I wanted one! lol
 
Polyandry (—many, andras—man) refers to a form of marriage in which a woman takes two or more husbands at the same time. Polyandry is prohibited by Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam and it is illegal in most countries, including those that permit polygyny. Even in cultures where it has been known, it is and has been extremely rare, and then only in particular and limited circumstances. In those cultures, the husbands were almost always from the same family. For example, the form of polyandry in which a woman is married to two or more brothers is known as fraternal polyandry, and i...
 
3:40 PM
@Alenanno Buy one! Or wait two months: if a new Nexus phone comes out in December, which people think it will, the GN will perhaps drop in price at some point.
 
The GN was the star of my trip, really. Unlocked, so I could easily put a cheap Austrian sim in it. Internet, so I could use google maps and google translate. And I could do things like google "How does Austrian transit work" while in a transit station and get a response! So friggin' handy
 
@Cerberus too late, I got a Galaxy Pocket. It's not bad at all :)
 
@MattЭллен Wiki is simplistic. There is nothing about polyandry that constrains it to women.
 
I see
Then both you appliances are male?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I know! It's great. Did you also have Cam Dictionary, or something? It lets you direct your camera at a word, and the program will automatically look it up.
@MattЭллен I...don't know, actually.
Haven't looked.
 
3:42 PM
:D
such a gentleman
 
@Cerberus No, but Google Translate has a cam-translate mode.
Unfortunately it works poorly on handwriting fonts that restaurant menus are so fond of.
 
@Alenanno Oh, cool! Was it cheap?
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh! I didn't know. Let me get that.
 
@Cerberus Around 100, including shipment and stuff. :D
 
My phone was invaluable on my trip. I used it for taking pictures. I used it for translating. For keeping track of important phrases. For looking up tourist info. For mapping. For posting pictures of food to facebook, to make my friends at home jealous. For reading the news while my wife was shopping. For looking up lego prices in Canada to see if I'd save money by buying in Austria. For checking the weather forecast.
So many things!
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 What do you use to type Chinese on it, by the way?
 
3:46 PM
I read that too fast. I saw "To take pictures of my wife and put them on Facebook."
 
@Alenanno Ah OK, that's fairly cheap. I guess any Android 2+ phone can do nearly everything other phones can.
 
@Alenanno Google Pinyin IME
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I know!!
 
@Cerberus Yeah, I didn't need that powerful phone anyway, for now it works. :)
 
3:47 PM
I have a good Chinese character recognition app BTW
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I saw that... I'll give it a try.
 
@Alenanno Yeah, makes sense.
 
You draw the character and it looks it up for you.
Pretty handy.
 
I use Pleco for that
 
If you know how to write Chinese...
 
3:47 PM
@KitFox Free? Name?
 
Do you have to draw the character correctly, or only so it looks right?
 
Hanzi Recognizer.
 
@KitFox Is it free? Thanks. :)
@AndrewLeach I guess at least similar. If it works like Nciku.
 
@AndrewLeach I don't know if the stroke order needs to be correct or not.
@Alenanno Yes.
 
@Alenanno Pleco is worth getting. Part of it is free, and part is not. But it's very handy. It's a dictionary, it does handwriting lookup, flash cards, etc.
 
3:48 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I tried it, but it's not the same: with Cam Dictionary, you don't need to click or do anything, just have the crosshair point at the word, and it gets translated automatically.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh... I use Anki for flashcards, you can even sync with the desktop app!
 
@Cerberus I have Cam Dictionary, actually, but haven't used it in a while, and it didn't work well for me last time I used it. But I was trying it on Chinese.
@Alenanno I admit that I don't use any flashcard apps. But Pleco has it built into the dictionary, so after you look up a word you can add it to a list of words to study. handy.
 
Heh.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I see why you like it... How is it partly free and partly commercial?
 
@Cerberus I wonder how well camdictionary works on handwriting fonts.
 
3:50 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Probably not so well.
 
@Alenanno well, I think the core is free and addon features are premium. But you'd need to go to the website and see.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I see thanks :)
 
Google has made some amazingly useful applications, like Androidify:
 
@KitFox Whoa, 160 MB of stuff for Simplified only. :D
 
Oh. Hmm. Never mind then.
 
3:53 PM
@KitFox It's not bad... I have around 7,something GB of SD card only.
:P
 
Yeah, I'm so rich in memory that I don't pay attention to how much of it I spend.
lights cigar with solid state
 
@Cerberus Okay, they totally need to make a Lego Minifig version of that
i.e. an app that generates lego minifigs.
 
@KitFox ahah... But I checked and it's using the USB one (2,19 GB in total)
Still ok. :D
@KitFox Installed it. Wonderful! I'm so keeping this.
 
@KitFox It's pretty much a BrE term. Most Americans wouldn't know what it means.
 
Hmm.
OK then.
 
4:00 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yes, that would make it even more useful!
 
@Cerberus I would also like to have a nice Lego Minifig of the Android mascot.
 
@KitFox What phone do you have again?
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Okay, I'm on it.
 
@Cerberus HTC Desire. I don't think I've shared that information before.
 
Ah OK.
 
@Cerberus The only downside of my phone so far is that it doesn't have native Japanese input support, but well... it's ok. :P What surprised me is that it has Korean support but not Japanese or Chinese.
 
4:01 PM
With a large SD card?
@Alenanno Probably because it is a Samsung phone?
But anyway, can't you download Japanese somewhere?
 
@Cerberus Ah LOL didn't think of that.
 
nods
 
@Cerberus You can download apps that provide an additional keyboard, but not a "language pack" or something.
 
It's funny how Japan only has Sony as a large phone manufacturer.
All the others are Taiwanese or Korean, it seems.
@Alenanno Hmm...do they have Japanese Swype? Probably?
 
4:03 PM
Outside keyboards, it doesn't matter that much, does it?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I downloaded that... but as you might have realized (I'm sure of it), it's not the same of changing input method from the space bar.
You need to change a setting somewhere else.
But hey, I'm not that fussy.
 
> The Subcommittee investigation found that the state and local agencies used some of the federal grant money to purchase: dozens of flat-screen TVs; Sport Utility Vehicles they then gave away to other local agencies; and hidden "shirt button" cameras, cell phone tracking devices, and other surveillance equipment unrelated to the analytical mission of a fusion center.
Funneh.
 
@Alenanno It isn't? It is on my phone.
Also, on my phone I have the option for choosing Chinese, Korean, and Japanese language for the phone.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I guess the Nexus is better on that then.
 
@Alenanno Once you enable the new IME it should be available whenever you have a chance to pick a new keyboard/IME
@Alenanno oh, the Nexus is better for everything.
 
4:06 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Sure? For me it makes me change the whole keyboard.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I know, but it's 4 times more expensive. :)
 
@Cerberus (Meta) How do you do quotes like that?
 
@Alenanno er, well, yeah. it is a separate keyboard.
like how Swype and the stock keyboard are different keyboards.
 
@AndrewLeach > Start a line like this, and make sure it is a single paragraph.
 
@Cerberus And quoting from the Main site? None of this is in the Help.
 
You mean an in-line / one-box?
Just post a line containing only a link to the question.
 
4:09 PM
@AndrewLeach pasting a url from the main site will auto-expand it.
 
>Like this?
 
Works with comments too.
 
> Or like this?
 
You damn well you need a space, you rascal!
 
Apparently, unlike the main site, the space after the angle is required.
 
4:10 PM
Unlike?
Surely not.
 
I know about one-box. What about a quote extract from a post?
 
Right. When you post on the main site you do not need a space after it.
 
@AndrewLeach You can't do that.
 
I can't say about comments: I did not know they were accepted anywhere else.
 
@MετάEd Are you 1000% sure?
 
4:10 PM
@Cerberus Yes.
 
@AndrewLeach You can post a link to a comment in chat and it will expand.
@MετάEd Okay, that is amply sure.
You can post a link to an answer too.
 
Even to a blog entry.
 
I think you need to click the "share" thingie next to the answer.
 
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A: Etymology of the phrase "cannot see the forest for the trees"

MετάEdIn English, this saying goes back at least to the 16th century: 1546 J. HEYWOOD Prov. II. iv. (1867) 51 Plentie is nodeintie, ye see not your owne ease. I see, ye can not see the wood for trees. —Oxford English Dictionary This is for in the sense of “on account of”, “because of”, which goes...

 
Added. The naval sense of both words is interesting, but unlikely to be relevant to the question. — Andrew Leach 26 mins ago
So you can.
 
4:12 PM
Well done!
 
@Cerberus See the edit box of that answer for an example.
 
@MετάEd I am perplexed.
I never knew this.
 
And it turns out I also just gave an example of oneboxing an answer.
 
Yes, I tried it.
Well done to you as well!
@AndrewLeach This is fairly new btw.
It usen't to be possible.
 
I found that putting [Meta] will expand to a link.
 
4:14 PM
@Cerberus Given that Andrew is not likely to be travelling back in time to test out these new-found abilities, that warning is probably moot, I think.
 
@AndrewLeach In the comments? Yes, also [Chat] and [Faq] :)
Faq works here too lol
 
@AndrewLeach Ah, yes. There appear to be many such things, like [so], which can be very annoying. There is in fact a recent Meta-SO question about that one.
 
@Alenanno I meant here. I didn't know it worked on the main site.
 
@AndrewLeach Oh yes it does there.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 But time-travel is only a scroll away here...
 
4:16 PM
no, that's not time travel, that's history.
 
Not to mention the worm hole hidden behind that button at the top!
 
getting lunch now, be back later
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 In that case, thank you for giving me this useful warning against uselessly warning people.
 
Lunch was hours ago: I shall be leaving for home soon. Bon appetit!
 
I don't know what I would have done without it.
 
5:08 PM
Sub-saharan Africa's largest nation has grown more oppressive over the decades, and its names have kept pace:
Congo. Lies in name: 0. Oppression level: bloody.
Republic of the Congo. Lies in name: 1. Oppression level: sadistic.
Democratic Republic of the Congo. Lies in name: 2. Oppression level: inhuman.
People's Democratic Republic of the Congo. Lies in name: 3. Oppression level: genocidal.
Shiny Happy People's Democratic Republic of the Congo. Lies in name: 5. Oppression level: hide.
— from The Daily Show's "America: The Book"
 
5:22 PM
Nice.
Why hide?
 
double rainbow!
 
As in, we should go in hiding against it?
Yay, good luck!
 
@Cerberus Should be hide!
 
Ah OK.
 
@Cerberus As in "run and hide."
 
5:25 PM
Yes, I get it.
 
@Cerberus As in, if you don't run away, and hide, something really really bad will happen to you. So run as fast as you can and hide as well as you can.
 
Yes, yes, that was my first interpretation.
 
Just wanted to be clear
 
5:43 PM
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A: When and why did the letter "u" begin being called [ju]?

reeyaWhy we read u fore example moon but door we read and sometimes U we read A example us I want to know why..? sorry about my english I hope you understand me what Im trying to say.

Gosh and they wonder why we protect things!
 
that question isn't so bad
actually, the question is fine
and the answer is beflagged
 
I'm not complaining about the question, but about the non-answer that is asking a new question.
 
Anybody here familiar with the SE data explorer?
 
A little.
Whatcha need?
 
I have a great answer today: megalography
 
5:48 PM
drawing big things?
 
You might be interested in upvoting me
 
@KitFox I am trying to query post history, and it seems for a lot of posts there is no history. That surprised me.
 
@MετάEd You know that the data is old, right?
 
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A: A word that refers to a large scale wall paintings/mural

Carlo_R.Since you are thinking in terms of the Roman wall paintings in Campania and considering that you remember that this word starts with "mega-", I propose "megalography" for the following reasons. Marcus Vitruvius Pollio (born c. 80–70 BC, died after c. 15 BC) was a Roman writer, architect and engi...

 
@KitFox There's some very current data, and some very old data.
@KitFox Looks more like there are gaps than just that the data are old.
 
5:50 PM
@MετάEd There shouldn't be any new. It's three or four months back. I thought. Maybe I'm wrong.
 
@KitFox Huh. Well let me look at it again with that in mind and see if that straightens me out. Thank you.
Is the idea that it will eventually be updated?
 
I think they ship the data once a month, but I can't tell you why I think that.
The supermods have access to the current set.
The SEDE is essentially a testing warehouse.
So I've used it to write queries then pung a mod to run it on the current set.
 
@Carlo_R. it follow the rules of creation of words in English, but is it already a word ir are you proposing an entirely new word?
'mural' already works perfectly well for exactly what the OP wants, and this was answered (as a duplicate) in another question.
 
Ok. The history stops at 2012-06-27 01:49:58 (database local time).
 
@Mitch I wonder if OP is thinking of marouflage.
 
5:57 PM
I don't think the OP is thinking of the painting technique (like fresco). Just big and landscape. 'megalography' might work except I've never heard it before.
 
I think of megalography in opposition to micrography, which is a symptom of Parkinson's disease and refers to small writing.
 
I would think with all the shaking, the smal writing would be impossible to read.
 
Actually, -graphy in general makes me think of technical drawing more than artistic.
 
right.
 

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