The Observatory

@JonEricson looking at the front page of questions as an example, that seems, overall, it has improved hasn't it? meatier with roast veges and potatoes?

David Freitag

Hmm.

UV-D

6:12 PM

lol

ManishEarth

!!punch JonEricson

Hissatron

Punches @JonEricson

David Freitag

!!forget compliment

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag Command compliment forgotten.

David Freitag

!!?

Hissatron

6:12 PM

The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything: 42.

!!hiss 42

42..hiss...spit

naughty Manish

@JonEricson IT IS BEER WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED!!

Jon Ericson

@UV-D It's better. But I'd like to see what happens for the rest of the week. No site can survive with all the heavy lifting being done with only a handful of clued in users.

UV-D

6:14 PM

@JonEricson improvement is always a good thing to be part of

ManishEarth

@JonEricson Actually, that's my concern here, the site reminds me of the evolution of Arduino... Only 5-6 users who really are active.

UV-D

I count 7-10 active users

ManishEarth

huh, that improved :)

UV-D

just looking at the first 2 pages as an indicator

Jon Ericson

@ManishEarth Especially if many are also active elsewhere. A core of half-a-dozen can work iff they are all dedicated to the site as a labor of love. But it's a very fragile thing.

UV-D

6:17 PM

oh I labour, and I love

(damn that sounded creepy)

Jon Ericson

I worry that Astronomy and Space are both in the formative stage at the same time.

ManishEarth

Me too

12 hours ago, by ManishEarth

UV-D

I worry about my questions and answers being scattered to the 4 winds if it closes

ManishEarth

12 hours ago, by ManishEarth

scope wise, then audience wise

Which highlights the need for the site, but also why it may not be so successful

I may meta post about this

UV-D

and then being downvoted to oblivion for being off topic etc if migrated

ManishEarth

6:21 PM

Because to me, Astro and Space "feel" the same

UV-D

I still worry that if the site goes down, many questions/answers would be 'lost' - either migrated to a site I do not belong to, or migrated to a site where it slammed, or worse still - discarded

David Freitag

@ManishEarth I think the ideology is different, but i will agree they feel the same.

ManishEarth

@UV-D you can always join the site

UV-D

I see Astro as being a 'bridge' between Space and Physics

Space - technolology, science etc of space exploration
Astro - theoretical and observational astronomy

so there is a definite divide (with some cross over)

ManishEarth

in The h Bar, 12 hours ago, by Chris White

@ManishEarth i would join if it were just amateur astronomy and such (maybe a place for purchase recommendations like photography.SE)

in The h Bar, 12 hours ago, by Chris White

but I don't condone their "and astrophysics" bit

in The h Bar, 12 hours ago, by Chris White

that's the problem - the fact that the amateurs who wanted it were afraid to ask astrophysics questions here means they don't want the kind of answer i'd give

UV-D

6:29 PM

I am in 2 minds about astrophysics

theoretical and practical astronomy here

astrophysics perhaps at physics

I don't know about that 3rd statement - I was not aware that there was that problem

I didn't join to run away from Chris

and would welcome his insights

ManishEarth

(to keep context: Chris is an astrophysics grad student -- one of the "experts" on our site)

@UV-D He's talking about the ones who wanted the site in the first place when they knew Phys already covered the scope

UV-D

definitely would welcome his insights

@ManishEarth got ya - but surely that is not the case with many who are here

ManishEarth

maybe, but when the site launches, why would people ask expert questions here when there are more experts on Phy?

Which is a big thing holding the site back.

UV-D

hmmm perhaps this site needs to be focused on theoretical and observational astronomy

the latter is probably not strictly on topic at Space nor Physics isn't it?

ManishEarth

All is on topic on Phys

And we have experts for the rest of astro already

UV-D

6:35 PM

but would it be received well - or downvoted and labelled as 'homework' and other horrid tags

ManishEarth

nope, well received

UV-D

even my questions?

RhysW

it worries me that we cant think of a good reason to have them seperated

UV-D

this ^^

RhysW

I'm seriously considering turning it into a meta post to get opinions, maybe someone could explain it better then either of us

it feels separate but I can't quite place why

UV-D

6:39 PM

@ManishEarth silly question, and I mean silly

would the rep earned here be reset if migrated or would the upvotes, accepts and reps follow?

RhysW

it follows, the last set did

(if i remember rightly)

UV-D

I know it is a small thing, but I thought I'd clarify

so, I reckon we still give the place a red hot go...

another silly question, would Hissatron follow?

RhysW

:P

that one is certainly more silly

UV-D

but important nonetheless

or would I have to supply the hissing and spitting?

RhysW

you might have to do so until its moved to a new chat room

i dont imagine it would be more than 2 mins work to move it

but remember, we are the fun start up,

UV-D

6:45 PM

but that is IF astro falls

RhysW

getting it approved in the big bureaucratic physics wont be easy

UV-D

So @ManishEarth, whatever happens, efforts will not be wasted?

RhysW

defiantely not! that would be a waste of time and information

i wonder what happens to closed questions, are they moved

and user who arent on physics, do they get created? or disassociated

UV-D

or indeed a user not on space

anyways - I is going to bed - 4:50am here and I am still unwell

called2voyage

I've just asked my question for the day.

I hope it's meaty enough. I wasn't able to find any papers discussing it.

UV-D

6:54 PM

ok checking the question then going to bed

upvoted and favourited - I want to know that answer also

good night/morning/evening/timzone all

!!beer called2voyage

Hissatron

Throws called2voyage a beer

RhysW

@UV-D cya

ManishEarth

@UV-D nope, everything is migrated

David Freitag

Hehe. I really like that other people are using !!beer

RhysW

So, whats everyone up to

David Freitag

7:09 PM

!!/forget beer

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag Command beer forgotten.

RhysW

:O

Hissatron

@RhysW My master is busy writing a meta post and eating an orange.

David Freitag

!!learn beer '<>Throws @$0 a beer'

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag Command beer learned

David Freitag

7:09 PM

!!beer RhysW

RhysW

hey thats pretty cool

Throws @RhysW a beer

Did it ping you?

yeah

SWEET

does a little dance

!!?

Hissatron

7:10 PM

The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything: 42.

RhysW

!!/norris

Hissatron

@RhysW The word 'Kill' was invented by Chuck Norris. Other words were 'Die', 'Beer', and 'What'.

RhysW

!!/RhysW

Hissatron

...is an idiot

3

David Freitag

PAHAHAHAHA!

RhysW

7:11 PM

manish taught it that ¬_¬

David Freitag

Nah, it's there be default!

RhysW

!!/forget RhysW

Hissatron

@RhysW You are not authorized to delete the command RhysW

RhysW

cant change it then :(

David Freitag

Of course not

RhysW

7:11 PM

@DavidFreitag how come you get to teach it things!

David Freitag

Because.

RhysW

!!/David

Hissatron

@RhysW That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.

RhysW

i totally want to get a bot and make it do nothing but annoy manish's bot by pinging it with reguests

Hissatron

We totally ought to integrate the chatbot with eliza.js

David Freitag

7:13 PM

Bots don't get annoyed.

RhysW

i wrote a program that 'evolved' before, that was good fun

David Freitag

And that could loosely be considered a war script. I wouldn't if i were you..

Hissatron

github.com/Zirak/SO-ChatBot/issues/61

RhysW

@ManishEarth used a war script the other day :P

Hissatron

"war script"?

David Freitag

7:14 PM

!!learn slap 'Slaps $0 with a trout'

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag Command slap learned

David Freitag

!!slap RhysW

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag Slaps RhysW with a trout

David Freitag

!!forget slap

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag Command slap forgotten.

David Freitag

7:15 PM

!!learn slap '<>Slaps $0 with a trout'

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag Command slap learned

David Freitag

!!slap RhysW

Hissatron

Slaps RhysW with a trout

David Freitag

!!forget slap

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag Command slap forgotten.

RhysW

7:15 PM

@Hissatron the one you used to keep tildal out of chat

ManishEarth

oh him

RhysW

one day i will be a mod and will have my revenge!

maybe not in this universe though

David Freitag

@ManishEarth you should add a random complimenter. Use the $someone macro to choose someone at random and use the $rand(min, max) macro to choose a random compliment from an array :]

Or maybe just the JS rng would do too

!!info beer

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag Command beer, created by David Freitag on Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:07:39 GMT, invoked 1 times

David Freitag

!!info

Hissatron

7:21 PM

@DavidFreitag I awoke on Wed, 02 Oct 2013 15:19:57 GMT (that's about 3 hours ago), got invoked 299 times, learned 18 commands, but forgotten 15 commands

RhysW

:O its getting smarter

David Freitag

!!listcommands

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag help, listen, eval, coffee, live, die, refresh, forget, ban, unban, info, jquery, choose, user, listcommands, norris, urban, parse, tell, mdn, awsm, color, convert, define, findcommand, fuckable, get, github, google, hang, inhistory, learn, mustache, nudge, spec, stat, summon, unsummon, timer, todo, undo, weather, welcome, wiki, xkcd, youtube, hiss, sombrero, rhysw, punchingbag, punch, echo, ?, beer (page 0/0)

David Freitag

!!coffee

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag "undefined"

ManishEarth

7:22 PM

!!sombrero

!!/mustache

!! echo

@DavidFreitag 1

7:22 PM

!!forget echo

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag Command echo forgotten.

ManishEarth

!!

Hissatron

@ManishEarth That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: ?

David Freitag

!!?

Hissatron

The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything: 42.

ManishEarth

7:22 PM

!!eval close()

Hissatron

@ManishEarth "ReferenceError: window is not defined"

RhysW

!!/color

Hissatron

@RhysW Could not process input. Error: Cannot call method 'join' of null

David Freitag

Yeah - that wont work =]

RhysW

:(

Hissatron

7:23 PM

@ManishEarth "undefined"

ManishEarth

!!eval console.log("hello")

Hissatron

@ManishEarth "undefined" Logged: 1

@ManishEarth "undefined" Logged: "hello"

ManishEarth

!!eval eval("window.close()")

David Freitag

It's not loggin in my console

Hissatron

@ManishEarth "undefined"

ManishEarth

7:24 PM

@DavidFreitag nor mine.

David Freitag

I think they went through great lengths to not turn this into a war script =]

Hissatron

@ManishEarth "ReferenceError: window is not defined"

ManishEarth

hmm

David Freitag

Besides, the script is only being run locally by you, if it were to open a popup, it would only open on your end

ManishEarth

yep

but that would be scary

David Freitag

7:25 PM

Unless somehow this guy found a HUGE XSS flaw in SO Chat

that would be scary :]

RhysW

@UV-D in tights, now that is scary!

David Freitag

!!RhysW

Hissatron

...is an idiot

RhysW

damn you chat bot

LOVE ME D:

David Freitag

!!learn love '<>Gives @$0 a hug'

Hissatron

7:29 PM

@DavidFreitag Command love learned

David Freitag

!!love RhysW

Hissatron

Gives @RhysW a hug

David Freitag

There, i taught the machine to love.

Hissatron

continues to hug

hugs harder

at an exponential rate

RhysW is getting crushed

@DavidFreitag You forgot to teach me how to stop loving. Poor Rhys is dead now. Your fault.

David Freitag

@Hissatron Who said i wanted you to stop loving?

!!learn sammich '<>Gives @$user a sammich'

Hissatron

7:32 PM

@DavidFreitag Command sammich learned

!!sammich

Gives user a sammich

!!forget sammich

@DavidFreitag Command sammich forgotten.

David Freitag

!!learn sammich '<>Gives @$someone a sammich'

Hissatron

7:32 PM

@DavidFreitag Command sammich learned

David Freitag

!!samich

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: sammich

ManishEarth

!!sammich

Hissatron

Gives @David Freitag a sammich

David Freitag

Huh, so $someone links to the creator...

Hissatron

7:33 PM

!!hiss sammich

David Freitag

So the about page lied!?!

!!forget sammich

ManishEarth

!!hiss about page

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag Command sammich forgotten.

about page..hiss...spit

David Freitag

!!learn sammich '<>Throws @$0 a sammich'

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag Command sammich learned

David Freitag

7:34 PM

!!sammich ManishEarth

Hissatron

Throws @ManishEarth a sammich

David Freitag

!!listen give me a lick

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.

@DavidFreitag Mmmm! you taste just like raisin

David Freitag

We... need to change that...

!!undo 11494040

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag You do not have permission to use the command undo

David Freitag

7:38 PM

I thought so.

ManishEarth

!!undo 11494040

Hissatron

@ManishEarth TimeError: Could not reach 88mph

David Freitag

hueuhe

Gotta love back to the future references.

!!listcommands

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag help, listen, eval, coffee, live, die, refresh, forget, ban, unban, info, jquery, choose, user, listcommands, norris, urban, parse, tell, mdn, awsm, color, convert, define, findcommand, fuckable, get, github, google, hang, inhistory, learn, mustache, nudge, spec, stat, summon, unsummon, timer, todo, undo, weather, welcome, wiki, xkcd, youtube, hiss, sombrero, rhysw, punchingbag, punch, ?, beer, love, sammich (page 0/0)

David Freitag

!!tell RhysW Quack!

Hissatron

7:40 PM

@DavidFreitag Command quack! does not exist.

ManishEarth

!!learn learnspawn '!!learn !!learnspawn$0'

Hissatron

@ManishEarth Illegal /learn object; see /help learn

David Freitag

!!tell RhysW norris

Hissatron

@RhysW Chuck Norris will never have a heart attack. His heart isn't nearly foolish enough to attack him.

@ManishEarth Command learnspawn learned

ManishEarth

!!learnspawn

Hissatron

7:40 PM

@ManishEarth !!learn !!learnspaw0

ManishEarth

damn, no recursion

we could probably use two of them and cause an infinite loop

David Freitag

Certainly

!!forget learnspawn

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag Command learnspawn forgotten.

David Freitag

!!learn learnspawn '<>!!learnspawn'

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag Command learnspawn learned

David Freitag

7:42 PM

heh...

!!learnspawn

Hissatron

!!learnspawn

David Freitag

AW....

Hissatron

!!learn learnspawn '<>!!learnspawn'

ManishEarth

hm

Hissatron

!!learn learnspawn '<>!!learnspawn'

David Freitag

7:43 PM

It probably isn't parsing it's own messages

ManishEarth

no, something else

David Freitag

for the very reason of recursion

!!echo

try !!info

!!cookie

7:44 PM

@Hissatron That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.

Hissatron

!!info

David Freitag

echo got removed

ManishEarth

@Hissatron I awoke on Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:42:06 GMT (that's about 11 seconds ago), got invoked 1 times

Hissatron

!!learn learnspawn '<>!!learnspawn'

ManishEarth

@Hissatron Command learnspawn learned

Hissatron

7:44 PM

!!learnspawn

!!learnspawn

Lol

ah

!!learnspawn

!!learnspawn

a problem appears

!!learnspawn

!!learn learnspawn '<>!!learnspawn $rand'

Hissatron

7:45 PM

@ManishEarth Command learnspawn learned

ManishEarth

!!learnspawn

Hissatron

!!learnspawn 4

David Freitag

The chat itself protects from recursion

Hissatron

!!learn learnspawn '<>!!learnspawn $rand'

ManishEarth

@Hissatron Command learnspawn learned

Nope, it just protects itself from infinite edits

David Freitag

7:45 PM

That too

!!learnspawn

!!learnspawn 1

!!learnspawn 6

!!learnspawn 8

you can't post the same message twice

Hissatron

7:46 PM

it rolls it up

David Freitag

!!learn learnspawn '<>!!learnspawn $rand(0, 1000)'

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag Command learnspawn learned

ManishEarth

so you need the rand there for recursion

David Freitag

!!learnspawn

Hissatron

!!learnspawn 0

ManishEarth

7:47 PM

im getting ratelimited. Load the chatbot on your account

David Freitag

What exactly do i need to do?

I ran bookmarklet.js, but now what?

!!listcommands

Hissatron

@DavidFreitag help, listen, eval, coffee, live, die, refresh, forget, ban, unban, info, jquery, choose, user, listcommands, norris, urban, parse, tell, mdn, awsm, color, convert, define, findcommand, fuckable, get, github, google, hang, inhistory, learn, mustache, nudge, spec, stat, summon, unsummon, timer, todo, undo, weather, welcome, wiki, xkcd, youtube, hiss, sombrero, rhysw, punchingbag, punch, ?, beer, love, sammich, learnspawn (page 0/0)

RhysW

third one, second line, does not look Safe for work

David Freitag

What, you mean that f_ckable one?

RhysW

yup

David Freitag

7:54 PM

I'm not sure what that's about.

RhysW

i dare you to do it

David Freitag

Not at work i'm not

RhysW

:P

i would but knowing my luck ill get flagged

@ManishEarth wanna explain 2:3?

ManishEarth

2:3?

!!/fuckable

Hissatron

@ManishEarth This is srs bsns, please treat it as such (see /help fuckable).

ManishEarth

7:55 PM

!!/help fuckable

Hissatron

@ManishEarth fuckable: Calculates the lower boundary according to age/2+7 rule. /fuckable age

ManishEarth

:O

RhysW

OHHH that thing

David Freitag

lol

@ManishEarth how do i get the bot setup? I am seeing console messages from SO, but no bots

woops.

ManishEarth

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