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Q: Passive "led" followed by ("into" and gerund) or ("to" and infinitive)?

Mathias MüllerWhich of those two sentences is correct? People were led into thinking that method X was beneficial for Y. or People were led to think that method X was beneficial for Y. Perhaps you also have an explanation why one or the other is correct? EDIT It is safe to assume that all words u...

In case someone wants to add anything.
 
 
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11:59 AM
yes, they both are okay — Maulik V 24 mins ago
I wish we had a downvote button for unhelpful comments.
 
 
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1:15 PM
> Had I come to know about his difficulties I would have certainly helped (him).
Is this sentence wrong without 'him"?
I don't think without the object of "help", this sentence is wrong.
 
1:42 PM
@Man_From_India I agree. I think it's okay. Help can be used intransitively too.
 
And another thing I want to know if english number is written with a hyphen? like twenty-four?
 
Hi! @DamkerngT.
How are you doing today?
 
@user62015 Good. Thanks! How about you?
(Actually, it's a bit busy, but that's okay.)
 
I am great.
I need your help for now.
Here soft skills and customer handling skills help you to get out of the situation with a smart solution and they also make sure your customer 'will be remained' with you always
In the above sentence the line "will be remained" is wrong or not?
 
Somehow I feel like the whole sentence sounds awkward.
 
1:50 PM
I just need to understand that line.
 
It's understandable. I also think you must be able to understand it.
 
But someone told me that it should be 'will be remain' not 'remained'
So I had an argument on it.
 
will be remain is definitely ungrammatical.
will be remained is just a bit iffy, imho.
 
So which will you pick?
 
Why do you have to pick?
 
1:54 PM
Because it became a very serious argument?
 
Language is not always black-and-white, imo.
 
My friend told me that it should be 'will be remain' and I said 'will be remained'
 
Also, if it were math (but it's not a math problem), we wouldn't pick either any way. Like when someone forces you to choose between a) 1+1 = 1.999 and b) 1+1 = 2.001.
 
I just need your choice?
 
@user62015 If I had to say remain anything in that line, I would at least change it to will remain.
And will remain is not the best choice, imho.
Another obvious thing is your customer. It's odd to use customer instead of customers.
 
1:59 PM
I just need your support. Like let's say someone is saying that 'will be remained' is it grammatically wrong or right?
 
It's acceptable grammatically, but to me its meaning is odd in this context.
 
Okay. Thanks.
And will be remain is wrong?
 
Will be remain is wrong, because I've never heard anyone use remain as an adjective before.
 
Thanks.
 
Let's say, it's similar to She will be *read her book this evening. That's ungrammatical.
 
2:04 PM
Thanks.
 
Um.. You're welcome.
 
Thanks.
Thanks for your time.
 
I hope the argument won't turn out the wrong way, though!
 
No. It was not.
 
Phew!
 
 
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Anonymous
3:11 PM
Will be remained is actually ungrammatical. Remain is intransitive, but you need a transitive verb to make a passive clause
 
So is it okay there?
 
3:38 PM
@snailboat is the following sentences correct
> I don't mind his/him taking alcohol.
 
Anonymous
@Man_From_India Yes.
 
Anonymous
Both are okay.
 
Anonymous
But since there's two sentences, you want to say "Are the following sentences correct?" :-)
 
thanks...and one is more formal than the other, i guess?
@snailboat nods :-)
 
Anonymous
@Man_From_India Hmm. Probably. StoneyB would know. I can't remember which one's more traditional without looking it up.
 
Anonymous
3:43 PM
They sound the same to me!
 
Anonymous
That doesn't mean they sound the same to everyone.
 
now what about these prepositions? blind in/on/with/of one eye
I am sure in is idiomatic, but I have seen other prepositions are also sued.
 
Anonymous
@StoneyB Didn't you write an answer or three about the accusative-genitive alternation there? "I don't mind him/his taking alcohol."
 
Anonymous
I tried to find them before, but I had trouble.
 
Anonymous
@Man_From_India Wow! I can't remember seeing other prepositions used.
 
Anonymous
3:44 PM
Why not do a corpus search?
 
Anonymous
This is a COCA search for blind [i*] one eye
 
Anonymous
Now, that [i*] thing means any preposition.
 
I did, and so I asked...other prepositions are also there :-(
 
Anonymous
You can tell by looking it up in the list of CLAWS tags: ucrel.lancs.ac.uk/claws7tags.html
 
Anonymous
3:46 PM
Anyway, in COCA, there are zero examples with other prepositions
 
oh sorry I searched Global corpus
 
Anonymous
In BNC, there are zero examples with other prepositions
 
but in global corpus there are examples with other prepositions...but they are very few compared to in.
 
Anonymous
In GloWbE, we find one example with of in AusE, which appears to be archaic; one example of on in NZE, which appears to be by a non-native speaker
 
Anonymous
The rest of the examples look like they're likely to be by non-native speakers
 
Anonymous
3:49 PM
So I think generally speaking, at least among native speakers, in is the idiomatic choice
 
thanks :-)
 
4:10 PM
@snailboat This one, perhaps?
 
Anonymous
Oh, thank you!
 
Anonymous
@Man_From_India Please see the answer StoneyB just linked to :-)
 
Anonymous
@StoneyB I think that now that I've had it pointed out for me by your answer, it's easier for me to notice the genitive sounds more formal
 
Anonymous
But a few minutes ago, they both sounded pretty much the same to me.
 
Anonymous
Is this one of those cases of expectation influencing perception?
 
4:13 PM
@user62015 Remain is an intransitive verb, so it can't be cast in the passive like this; you have to say she will remain with you. You may be confusing remain with retain*="hold on to": *She will be retained by you. "Retaining" customers/clients is very big in the business world today.
 
4:29 PM
Something I didn't address there is syntactic and discourse context. I think the accusative is more acceptable, and feels more natural, when the subject is 'raised' to an object position, particularly if it's emphatic "I don't mind him taking alcohol, but she's only fifteen." So it's likely that you passed easily from "it's better" to "it's formally more correct" -- which is the attitude you'd hope the stylists would adopt! :)
 
Anonymous
@StoneyB I remember CGEL had some rather detailed observations about when one or the other is possible, but I haven't yet managed to commit them to memory
 
@snailboat It's one of those constructions that's gonna piss somebody off whatever you do, like the genderless pronoun thing. I generally solve the problem by rewriting to avoid it.
 
Anonymous
5:25 PM
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Q: English word for a room in a company office that handles letters

ElectricmanI am looking for a word to identify a room which exists in every institute or office, that receives/sends/distribute the letters that go through the office. Usually they stamp and number the received and sent letters. Google translator suggests the word SECRETARIAT. Does that make sense? Also,...

 
Anonymous
When I see SECRETARIAT, I think of a horse.
 
user116848
@snailboat Congrats on reaching almost 20k points!
 
user116848
I just read the transcript. Nice!
 
Anonymous
I'm in the home stretch! Less than 200 left! :-)
 
Anonymous
That's my goal for this week.
 
user116848
5:35 PM
You will get there :-)
 
user116848
200 is pretty hard for me though. I am a very slow answerer.
 
user116848
I lost my motivation.
 

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