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6:04 PM
I want to flag a Chemistry question on Physics, but the options available to me in the flagging window do not include migration to Chemistry. What should I do ?
 
What question?
 
Yeah you can only redirect to two places
 
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Q: What causes a eutectic point?

DaleWhat causes the melting point depression known as a eutectic point? The temperature depression of a eutectic point can be calculated from the enthaplies and entropies of fusion of the two substances.

 
@Slereah your GR ramblings are second only to my Skyrim mod ramblings
 
6:07 PM
@KyleKanos So what should I flag it as ?
 
If you want to flag, use a custom moderator flag and ask for migration
 
@0celo7 Worldbuilding is weird today. You can call Mythology weird, but Worldbuilding today is really weird.
 
I'd personally leave a comment saying, Might Chemistry be better suited for this question?
 
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Q: If everyone had to wear a box over their head - how would society differ?

chasly from UKA crazy dictator (let's face it, most of them are) decrees that all of his subjects must wear a box over their head when outside their homes. There are no eyeholes allowed and the police (who are exempted whilst on duty) check at regular intervals. The boxes are of a standard size and have to ...

I rest my case.
 
@KyleKanos Will do. Thanks !
 
6:12 PM
GR ramblings are the best
 
6:25 PM
Skyrim mod ramblings are better
They're even better when you see what I'm seeing
 
6:40 PM
sometimes I want to chime in on a topic
But I realize
It is TOO MUCH NITPICKING
 
7:04 PM
@dmckee: we have a clear case of malicious serial downvoting here and you know it. Now fulfil your role. I’m not insisting with my answers, I respond with robust references, and yet I’m deluged with downvotes by the popscience trolls you’re turning a blind eye to. See for example this: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/195297/…. Six downvotes! One each for Einstein, Shapiro, Baez, Wright, Magueijo and Moffat.
So puhlease, don’t give me the modern author not liking the semantics or weasel words about Einstein is a prophet. What we have here is a bunch of trolls misleading students and doing the site down whilst good contributors vote with their feet. And if you ain’t part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Capiche?
 
::chuckles::
Yeah @dmckee, you're a part of the problem!1
 
@JohnDuffield Serial downvoting has specific meaning here, cf. this Meta.SE post
dmckee is telling you that you are not being subjected to the SE definition of serial downvoting
Note also that you have two references: Einstein & Koks--Baez simply hosts some of Koks works and neither supports nor rejects any of it
If you've ever offered the others, I've never seen it
 
@JohnDuffield Stop complaining. There are four upvotes on that post, and a net score of only -2.
 
@JohnDuffield Also, given that you are in the minority of those arguing this POV, have you ever considered that you are the troll on this site?
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Dun dun duuuuun
 
7:13 PM
@0celo7 : actually, you're part of the problem. @Kyle Kanos : Don Koks is the editor of the PhysicsFAQ/Baez website. Like me he's what you'd call a "relativist". And no, I'm not the troll, I give the answers, not the downvotes. @HDE 226868: I'm complaining about the trolls who are ruining physics stack exchange. There's good reputable historic posters on this site whom I know, but they've stopped posting. Houston we have a problem.
 
AFAICT, Koks is not a relativist, his CV says he's a QM guy.
 
@JohnDuffield You can't make the claim that it was serial downvoting because it was almost all things that you had posted within the last couple days. That's a strike against that. Second, most (not all) were terrible posts. I don't blame whoever downvoted the answer that started with "I can only answer with opinion rather than facts"
Also, I haven't seen any trolls lately.
 
@Kyle Kanos : I've talked to him, he describes himself as a relativist. He rewrote the Beaz speed of light article after we conversed. The old version is here desy.de/user/projects/Physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/… and it contradicts itself. Look at the last section.
 
I can describe myself as a quantum field theorist all I want, doesn't mean I actually am one
 
@KyleKanos we love you all the same <3
 
7:20 PM
@JohnDuffield I'd argue that this one is correct, $c$ is a constant and not a function of $x^\mu$.
@JohnDuffield And no, I'm not the troll, I give the answers, not the downvotes. What on earth do you think a troll does? They give bunk answers based on bunk physics, precisely as you do (for the most part).
 
Damn
That guy is a real outrage machine
He pops monocles like it's going out of style
 
This guy's back:
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A: Density of dark matter along the galaxy

David SpaceDark mass, not dark matter. The mass which fills 'empty' space is beginning to be referred to as the 'dark mass' in order to distinguish it from the baggage associated with dark matter. 'Dark Energy/Dark Mass: The Slient Truth' https://tienzengong.wordpress.com/2015/04/22/dark-energydark-mass-t...

 
@KyleKanos I hate that guy.
 
@HDE 226868: the serial downvotes aren't just on my recent replies. And they weren't terrible posts. They were good answers. Much better than yours. For example see physics.stackexchange.com/questions/195951/…. Who voted for your pathetic answer? Larry the Lamb and Sooty? You're a sixteen-year old nerd. Back off kid.
 
in Mathematics, 4 hours ago, by HDE 226868
Fight nicely, please. Or, rather, don't fight at all.
@JohnDuffield.
I can and will chat-ban you, because you're showing less maturity here than me or anyone else.
 
7:27 PM
It's pretty hard because I have no maturity at all
 
NB: HDE is a moderator of two SE sites, so he has moderator powers in chat.
 
Whoops, should have mentioned that. Thanks @KyleKanos. I'm not good at providing context for some things, it seems.
 
Well it would have been much more amusing if he discovered it too late
 
Another NB: You can tell who is a SE moderator because their chatroom names appear blue, whereas SE peons (such as myself) appear black.
@HDE226868 I think the context is clear (chat bans can only be done by mods), I was just being extra clear
 
TIL...
 
7:30 PM
Room owners are in italics, too.
@KyleKanos I wasn't sure if he knew.
 
@Kyle Kanos : c is not constant. Go and read the Einstein digital papers: einsteinpapers.press.princeton.edu/vol7-trans/…. If the speed of light was constant in the room you're in, your pencil wouldn't fall down.
 
3 hours ago, by dmckee
And the simply appeal to authority "But Einstien worte..." is absolutely useless. This is not a religion and Einstein is not a prophet.
 
@Kyle Kanos : how about Irwin Shapiro then? Here's his paper: http://i.stack.imgur.com/IlSrh.jpg
 
You take that back, of course my cat is a prophet.
 
@KyleKanos What was the "really great response"?
Regarding your comment on the dark matter answer.
 
7:37 PM
I recall that it was annav who gave it, but it revolved around the observations of the galactic motions and the fact that many smart people studied them for many years to come up with the theory
 
@Kyle Kanos : or how about Don Koks the Baez editor? See this: math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/… And I quote: "In that sense, we could say that the 'ceiling' speed of light in the presence of gravity is higher than the 'floor' speed of light". You don't know about this because you've been spoon-fed some popscience pastiche of relativity that appeals to Einstein's authority whilst flatly contradicting him. Yes, that's the size of it.
 
He's not Baez's editor, he's the editor of a usenet site that is hosted by Baez. You're trying to equivocate Koks opinions with Baez, and that's not necessarily the case
AFAIK, Baez hasn't actually written any of the articles on that site
Heck Phillip Gibbs, well known for holding non-mainstream views, was an editor for the site
(and also well known for creating vixra)
 
lol
 
So can we at least agree that Baez has nothing to do with the site so that you can stop trying to get a two-fer here?
 
Don't put down viXra like that, I'm sure he has a few articles there himself!
 
7:53 PM
@Kyle Kanos : oh duck and dive. Go ask Baez about it then. Make sure you mention my name and my references to Einstein and Shapiro and Wright etc, and how you think Einstein should be dismissed as a prophet. Gibbs wrote/cowrote the old article that's on DESY, the one that contradicted itself, the one that Koks rewrote.
 
Should we email Baez?
 
@0celo7 : go for it.
Come on, who's got the guts? @Slereah : no, I don't have anything on viXra. Somebody put something of mine on there a while back without my permission and when I contacted them they obligingly removed it.
 
Ahahah
Oh god
My sides
 
ADS doesn't have a John Duffield either, so it seems just a book
Hmm, first review on the book,
> WARNING: This book contains a lot of personal theories about space, time and matter, and doesn't bother to highlight for the reader what is established physics and what is not. Parts of it flatly contradict what modern theoretical and experimental physics have discovered
 
Seems familiar
 
8:00 PM
ADS is awesome.
 
No love for straight de Sitter...
All you string theory supergravity whipper snappers
 
Haha.
 
help
My sides are in orbit
 
Just find a cosmic string to collide with
 
Oh my god
The crankness
It has 0 equations, as per usual crank modus operandi
 
8:03 PM
To be fair, though, a lot of popularizations have little-to-no equations in them
 
It includes links to hyperphysics
 
@Slereah The book? No equations can be a good thing if you want people to read it.
 
Yeah but it is quite amusing considering he keeps calling everyone pop science babies
 
Well I've gotta head out to dinner with the family. Enjoy your evening folks
 
Enjoy.
 
8:04 PM
Later
 
@Slereah : Don't you get it yet? See Ned Wright saying In a very real sense, the delay experienced by light passing a massive object is responsible for the deflection of the light. The relativity you've been taught is Kip "time travel" Thorne relativity. It appeals to Einstein's authority whilst flatly contradicting him. Yeah. If you want details, ask a question.
@Slereah : And where have you been? Someone told me that each equation I included in the book would halve the sales. Who said that? My little 2009 self- published effort isn't really on sale any more, but Amazon are a law unto themselves. At least the price is down from the £500+ it was a few weeks ago. That must have been a signed copy. Collectors item!
 
@Slereah @JohnDuffield's right about that; Stephen Hawking took the same advice.
 
Pretty good reviews :
" WARNING: This book contains a lot of personal theories about space, time and matter, and doesn't bother to highlight for the reader what is established physics and what is not. Parts of it flatly contradict what modern theoretical and experimental physics have discovered."
:D
Hm
Strange
 
> After an introductory preamble spanning the history of relativity, money, and belief
History of money?
 
The good reviews, either the user has only reviewed that book, or the user has only given 5 stars reviews to every book
Quite a strange array of amazing things
 
8:16 PM
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Q: Can you recover the values of spacetime intervals $s^2$ from given causal relations between events?

user12262Given a suitable set $\mathcal S$ of events together with their (pairwise) causal relations, i.e. for each pair of distinct events $\mathsf A, \mathsf B \in \mathcal S$ the assignment whether $\mathsf A$ chronologically precedes $\mathsf B$, or whether $\mathsf B$ chronologically precedes $\ma...

 
@Slereah : that's just a malicious review from a troll. I refer to Einstein and the evidence etc, I'm not some "my theory" guy. The other reviews give you a better balance. If I was writing it again I'd change a few things, but not that much.
 
Good times.
 
pot calling the kettle black
troll calling the "troll" a troll
@Slereah IKR
 
Is he a troll, though
I mean
You don't write a book for trolling purpose
 
he might be a lost soul
i.e. worthy of pity :/
 
8:22 PM
Heh
 
Can we please keep this friendly? @JohnDuffield was rude earlier, but he has subsided, and I think that he's having things heaped up on him, which is rude in return. cc @Ocelo7 cc @Slereah
 
Marco Frasca can't write a paper without mentionning that solution he did
He's milking the hell out of that solution
Not a bad idea really
It's a neat solution
4D interacting field solutions that aren't solitons aren't common
 
OK, who can I email about why they don't post on stack exchange any more? Would any of you guys like to volunteer any answers to that? Only I'm looking at my reputation, and I'm seeing an awful lot of red for answers that refer to Einstein or Minkowski or Maxwell etc, or to bona-fide contemporary authors and hard scientific evidence.
 
If you think the level here is too awful try going to Physics Overflow
 
hehe, +31-1 on a question I answered very quickly.
 
8:32 PM
@NeuroFuzzy pretty pictures with animation will do that
of course, your picture is prettier -> more votes
 
@KyleOman I feel almost guilty now! Then again I put about as much effort into the answer as the OP did on the question, so I think I'm safe.
Hahaha yesssss prettier pictures
I love astronomy gifs where you can see things changing over decades of observations
 
Dammit, out of close votes. The last few weeks were pleasantly benign in that respect.
 
Hello ACM
 
Hey Sleerah
 
anyone here use Ubuntu 14.04?
 
8:41 PM
I might?
Dunno what I use at work
It is a ubuntu
 
heh
 
And it's recent because it's awful
 
right
I have a laptop here with 12.04, and I think I'm about to nuke the installation because [reasons], so I'm debating whether to go back with 12.04 again or make the leap to 14.04
heard 14.04 was terrible when it launched, wondered if they've ironed out the kinks yet
 
Dunno
I don't care all that much
It's just a linux
 
@KyleOman why not use 15.04?
I'm using 14.10 atm and it is running perfectly smoothly
 
8:52 PM
Just remove Ubuntu and drop in Arch instead and all the troubles are gone.
 
@Slereah : are there any other competitor websites you care to recommend? Only I like it here, where I can further your education. @ACuriousMind : out of close votes? Do you guys hang around closing down questions then? Only I thought the idea was to answer the questions. And is it my imagination, or have I seen some "already answered" questions that haven't been answered at all?
 
@JohnDuffield Careful.
 
@JohnDuffield running out of close votes is pretty easy once you have access to the close review queue... until you see it, you can't appreciate the amount of unambiguously close-worthy questions that need votes spent on them
@gonenc ennnnh, I was using the latest Ubuntu every 6 months for a while, but got tired of the bleeding edge, would rather be on a LTS these days
 
@JohnDuffield It is an intrinsic feature of the SE model to have active community moderation, see, for instance, A Theory of Moderation. Yes, I take an active part in moderating this site, closing questions that are duplicates, not about physics, too broad, or just so confused that one can't tell what is actually being asked. There are 24 of those close votes per day, and I'm out of them for today.
 
@Kyle Oman : you need 3000 votes for that. And once you're past 2000 votes, it would seem you start attracting attention. Then the malicious serial downvotes (which aren't really serial downvotes of course) start rolling in, and it's uphill all the way.
 
9:01 PM
Strange
You seem to be the only one with that problem
 
::checks own reputation tab:: ::looks for malicious downvotes:: ::scratches head in confusion::
 
Do you want me to downvote you a bit
So you don't feel lonely
 
@ACuriousMind I did the same, but on a much smaller scale.
 
@Slereah Remember what I said earlier. Do not be malicious in turn.
 
I don't see any serial doe voting.
 
9:03 PM
It is hard.
 
Then again, I engage in accepted, mainstream physics.
 
I do have some downvotes whose origin I can't explain, but, well, that's how it is.
 
@ACuriousMind Retaliation.
 
the occasional downvote isn't so bad, at -2:+10 even a 0 score answer can be a net rep gain
 
And since I wrote this meta post, I think it's clear I don't think downvotes are a bad thing in themselves at all.
 
9:04 PM
::walks into party late::
Are we down-voting @ACuriousMind? I love that game.
 
(which I find somewhat disturbing)
 
Even with 80% downvotes you still break even
 
@KyleOman I should say I haven't had any problems with ubuntu 14.10 gnome 3 as I've said before, I don't use unity so if you do I cannot give any opinions on that matter
@alarge only if I had the stomach to do that :D :P
 
@DanielSank Experimentalist oppression!
 
@ACuriousMind Damn straight.
 
9:06 PM
Experimentalists? Don't you mean ENGINEERS
Oh the jeers
 
@gonenc Drop it in a VM and see how it looks.
 
@Slereah Nah, @0celo7 is the engineer (to be) here. @DanielSank plays with quantum thingies for a living, that's not an engineer in my book.
 
@Slereah : Something else that's strange is that I see a lot of historic posters here who aren't posting any more. @ACuriousMind : I've seen questions closed that arguably should not have been closed, where there's no adequate answer on the duplicate, or where the closer has given a poor answer to a somewhat-similar question. I look forward to being able to vote on this, but I'm getting the feeling that some other people aren't.
 
Although "Quantum engineer" does not sound like a bad job description at all.
 
I use unity because it's the default, but have no particular attachment to it - my work desktop is Fedora and... hell I don't even know what GUI this is anymore
 
9:09 PM
Quantum doctor
Quantum lawyer
Quantum cashier
 
@ACuriousMind "Quantum Electronics Engineer" to you :)
 
There's a book titled "Quantum economics"
(It's about using mathematical methods of quantum mechanics for economics)
 
@ACuriousMind Also, to be serious for a minute (heresy I know), experimental physics is like 70% engineering. I do feel strongly that this is important and often misunderstood by the general population and other physicists.
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(It's a fancy word for stochastic processes)
 
@JohnDuffield duplicate-ness has nothing to do with answers - are the questions the same? if yes -> duplicate, if no -> not duplicate... if there are good answers on the closed question, sometimes they can be migrated to the open one, on request
 
9:10 PM
There's also a "Relativistic chemistry" book, as far as unlikely titles go
 
@ACuriousMind your meta post reads like "I have more downvotes than all of you puny maggots. I am literally the master of downvotes. Here is my creed:"
 
@alarge it works perfectly fine the problem is I'm too lazy to set it up :D
 
@DanielSank I know, and I've tried to be a bit more mindful of that since you tried to raise awareness about that. Not sure how successful I've been
 
@ACuriousMind engineer makes me sound like someone beating gears and levers together
I hate that word
 
@0celo7 Well, except for the maggot part, that sounds about right :P
 
9:13 PM
@ACuriousMind inserted for dramatic effect
 
@0celo7 Don't hate the word.
Educate people about what the word means.
I wear "engineer" with pride.
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It goes really well with my PhD title.
 
There's a congressman who has PE in his official title
I find that really strange
Btw today was my last day
 
@0celo7 What are we, literature majors?
 
@ACuriousMind on mobile, so that comment makes 0 sense
Oh the drama
 
@0celo7 Heh, it's a reply to the dramatic effect.
 
9:16 PM
Lol I thought last day had to do with being a lit major
 
Then again, I engage in accepted, mainstream physics.
@Kyle Oman : I've seen some questions that have been closed as a duplicate, but when I've followed the link to the alleged duplicate, it's not the same, and there's some second-rate non-answer by one of the names who voted for closure. I can't give any examples of this as I speak, but I'll make a note of any more instances I come across.
 
@ACuriousMind Why is @DanielSank not an engineer but I am? I'll basically be doing quantum thingies too.
Of course, QM is still wrong.
 
@0celo7 LOL
 
Such a shameful job then
You know it's wrong, and yet
 
@0celo7 I guess because he has physics phd?
 
9:28 PM
@DanielSank on mobile, can't tell what I said is so funny
@gonenc You're banning me from obtaining one?
 
@0celo7 nah but arent you gonna do nuclear engineering stuff?
on top of that do you really want to make a physics phd?
afaik people tend to do the otherwise. physics bachelor and engineering phd?
 
@gonenc on top of that? I'm going to get a PhD in something, exactly what that will be we'll have to see
 
someone should answer this, I'm curious (I would, but I don't know the answer :( ) physics.stackexchange.com/questions/196729/…
 
If my work is more theoretical, then physics. If I'm doing more practical stuff, engineering.
Nothing is set in stone.
 
@0celo7 LOLOL. How does being on mobile affect ability to respond to humor?
 
9:32 PM
@0celo7 I mean usually people with engineering background make an engineering phd
 
I have to go because iPhone battery + PSE chat = dead battery
@DanielSank I can't see what was humorous
 
ciao
 
@DanielSank He can't follow the little arrow
 
@gonenc Sure, people don't also usually know what a Riemann tensor is in 11th grade.
 
@0celo7 why are you being so defensive? I dearly hope that I didn't offend you in any way
 
9:34 PM
@0celo7 : I'm the one who gives the references to Einstein etc and the evidence. The people who airily dismiss that as theology are not engaging in physics. Mainstream or otherwise.
 
@0celo7 Clearly you're not Russian.
@0celo7 You said "Of course, QM is still wrong."
python thinks 1<2 is False.
I must have mistaken crazy pills for breakfast cereal this morning.
 
obe
9:49 PM
@JohnDuffield If the physics is outdated then it is irrelevant if Einstein stated it. chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/23067349#23067349
 
@DanielSank ???
 
@DanielSank Could be worse
 
Mine says True
 
@Slereah But technically {} + {} isn't a number, so NaN is correct there :)
 
@Slereah is it from the video wat cause I laughed at the examples given by that video a lot? :D
@DanielSank yup that is it :D :D
 
obe
9:53 PM
@gonenc Chapter?
 
@ACuriousMind I left out a little details about how 1 and 2 are actually instances of a custom numerical class etc etc.
 
@obe shoot haven't had time to read carroll in a week :D
 
Clearly we done screwed sumfin' up.
 
obe
@gonenc I haven't moved from ch2, same.
Although idk if playing sc2 counts as not having time.
 
@obe than the gap is still the same I'm around ch5
 
9:54 PM
I have seen the breakdown explaining why this happens
It is convoluted
A lot of casting is involved
 
obe
@gonenc What about shankar, did you begin reading it?
 
@obe nah I'm reading something on diff forms too so I don't want to read too much at once
 
@Slereah js is total garbage.
 
It is.
 
ES6 fixes some stuff, but stil, js is just terrible.
 
obe
9:56 PM
@gonenc Do you have any advice for the chapters in carroll, since you've read them?
I'm going to resume soon.
 
@obe what kind of advice exactly do you want?
 
@Slereah of course, to deal with the disconnect between js and other languages the solution which is gaining traction is to write the SERVER is js too! Yay! Let's all go down the road to software hell holding hands together.
 
@obe 4.3 has a lot of maths but explained thoroughly so there is almost no difficulty there
 
obe
@gonenc Idk, things to skip or read elsewhere?
 
@obe I've skipped 4.8 planning to return to alternative theories after I've read the whole book
I sadly have to skip 5.2 because I didn't read the appendices but planning to read it cause I feel like I'm missing a lot of fun in that chapter
btw I've just noticed that I've actually finished ch 5 without doing the exercises :)
 
10:02 PM
@DanielSank You may think this interesting: destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript. Maybe someone already posted this here though with the WAT talk.
 
obe
@gonenc Did you do the ch4 exercises? or do you do all of them?
 
@obe some of them not all
@obe are you doing all the exercises?
 
Ah, finally through the transcript.
It sure has gotten lively up in here!
 
@Danu for how long have you been reading?
 
It took me about 20 minutes, starting from my last message.
 
10:15 PM
@Danu Do you read the entire log every time you sit down?
 
Yes, he does :P
 
@DanielSank No, but about 50% of the time. Now, I do it because of the whole Duffield controversy
As a chat moderator, I think it's important for me to follow it.
 
@Danu I don't envy that job.
 
@DanielSank It forces one to think about things carefully
 
obe
@gonenc not all.
 
10:19 PM
@Danu what is a chat mod btw :)
that is what does a chat mod do?
 
@gonenc Any SE moderator also has moderation powers in chats.
What I do is look around in chat and see if I see something that I think does not belong here.
 
@Danu oh that is cool :)
 
obe
@Danu Do I belong here?
 
@Danu so usual mode stuff :D
 
If I do, I take it up with other moderators, and possibly intervene.
@obe I think so.
 
obe
10:21 PM
;>
 
How are you doing, @DanielSank?
 
@Danu Very well, up to a very, very strange bug in python.
It thinks that 1<2 is False (disclosure: 1 is an instance of a custom numerics library and 2 is a numpy float64).
How are you, good sir?
 
Close enough
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@Danu You must be an astrophysicist.
 
I'm alright. Got back home for the holidays a few days ago, so that's nice. Today, I spent a bunch of time on this drama here in chat.
@DanielSank Cosmologist ;)
astrophysicists don't even learn GR!
 
10:27 PM
@DanielSank What are the things cast into to actually compare them?
 
@Danu drama?
 
@skillpatrol Find it by scrolling up, up, up
 
@Danu any suspensions?
 
Not AFAIK
 
that's a good thing :-)
 
10:31 PM
@ACuriousMind This has something to do with array_priority in numpy.
@skillpatrol It's not drama, just someone being immature. Move along.
 
yes sir
cya
 
11:30 PM
I just completed my first mesh edit
yeah that doesn't work at all
 
Hey, @Danu and @DavidZ, I just noticed something amazing.
 
hmm
 
On StackOverflow they have a hook that pings you if your question title includes certain words.
I just asked a question about a weird floating point behavior in numpy. When I tried to submit, it sent me to the top of the page with a warning suggesting that I read certain articles about common problems with floating point operations.
We could use this.
A couple of obvious cases where the user is probably doing something wrong come to mind:
1) Title includes the word "question"
2) Title includes "uncertainty principle"
:23099381 How did you do that?
 
mod superpowers.
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@Qmechanic I see. Cool.
 
11:54 PM
I'm intrigued...what did he do?
 
@0celo7 Edited my comment, and past the usual time-out for comment editing.
 
that's not fair
 

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