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Q: Are cold fusion questions on-topic?

kenorbI was reading 2-year old meta post here, and it seems most of the answers saying that it should be on-topic (as theoretical physics) as science should answer non-mainstream questions to avoid censorship. However it's still not clear for me and I know that there was some long debate on this and m...

 
@NikolajK yes, I'm also working on a smiliar thing. I'm just about to start section 50 or 51 in Mechanics and I've started a bit on book 2.
 
@NeuroFuzzy: Of the Landau book? Okay cool. What do you mean by "working" exactly? So you're all up though it to section 50 now? And what's your pace?
 
Oh by "working" I mean taking notes and assembling a list of questions so that if I had a test on the material I could re-study it more quickly. + some notes and projects. I'm almost done with 1-50 but I did skip the small nonlinear oscillations sections.
And my pace has been scattered since I started the quarter
School*
A few sections per week is pretty manageable.
I'm mostly only interested in books 1-6.
 
6:30 PM
@DavidZ Did you study complex analysis directly or did you just pick that up through physics courses as well?
 
@NikolajK I'd be more than happy to work out a schedule for going through them! I'm kind of looking forwards to book 2 though.
@NikolajK maybe a ten-week schedule, because that's how long my school lasts this session and it's easy to get behind w/o a plan.
 
@NeuroFuzzy: I'm starting this weekend, not sure about the pace. I think it will be easy to read for me, I'm finishing my PhD
 
6:46 PM
Definitely then! Haha well you'll probably lose me at least on book three if not before.
Eh who knows
Probably.
 
@NeuroFuzzy: So as I said, I'm reading though it (starting this weekend, at some pace I've not settled yet), gonna put stuff systematic on my notebook (axiomsofchoice.org) and (if people tune in) post some elaborative stuff for discussion on a place like /sci/
 
7:05 PM
@StanShunpike The thing about the NOT gate?
There were some weird assumptions in the question, as I noted in a comment.
 
7:16 PM
@NikolajK great. Sounds good.
 
I guess I ping you when I write something, I'll have everything public
 
@NikolajK does /sci/ really work for discussion? I've just kind of aasumed it wouldn't haha
 
@MarkMitchison how to solve $\delta \rho / \delta t = -i[\rho,H] + L_(deph)(\rho) + L_dissipation(\rho)$ where the deph and dissipation from plenio and huelga?
 
@NeuroFuzzy: Not really, in the sense that the traffic is low and the people are young. But the traffic is higher than here, and the poeple are funny.
but you can have some interesting discussions. E.g. here I answer some math student what I know about categorical logic: archive.moe/sci/thread/7140705
 
@ACuriousMind Let $G/H$ be a coset space. I want to show that multiplication of equivalence classes is well-defined, i.e. that the product of equivalence classes is itself an equivalence class. So let $[g],[g']\in G/H$ be equivalence classes. Let $gh$ and $g'h'$ be representatives. Then I should be able to put $ghg'h'$ in the form $gg'h''$, so that it defines an equivalence class.
 
7:21 PM
Don't know where else to interact, if I don't just wanna write to myself.
 
@ACuriousMind But the group is not necessarily abelian, so how do I handle $hg'$?
@NeuroFuzzy /sci/ is a shithole...
 
@0celo7: Which groups is this about? The procedure seems to be exactly what you need to do.
 
@NikolajK No particular group. I just don't know how to justify moving $h$ past $g'$.
 
IF you can do it, then G/H is a group.
 
@NikolajK So $H$ being a normal subgroup is the justification?
 
7:27 PM
I don't have all definitions in my head, but G/H is a set, a priori, and you wont always be able to induce a group structure (coming down from G) on it
>..On the other hand, the subgroup N is normal if and only if gN = Ng for all g in G. In this case, the set of all cosets form a group called the quotient group G / N with the operation ∗ defined by (aN ) ∗ (bN ) = abN. Since every right coset is a left coset, there is no need to distinguish "left cosets" from "right cosets".
now this says normal=> group structre
not sure to what extent it fails to capture when exactly a group structre comes down
(the induced one, obviouly the trivial group structure always exists)
and /sci/ is "a shithole", in the sense that the niveau is low because there are a lot of kids. The people are okay and the content can be funny (if you're not trolled easily). Let's say its more worthwhile than reddit, imho.
 
It's infested with trolls.
@NikolajK Define "kids". Kids like me kids or kids like college kids or kids like middle school, etc.?
 
17 year olds asking what they should study
 
@TAbraham A link would be helpful, because all the rooms I see other than this one and the Physics moderators chat room are titles "Discussion between ..."
 
that being said, the guy I learned about higher category theory from was a 17 year old
a brilliant one
 
@NikolajK How does TeX work on /sci/?
 
7:36 PM
yeah [math]\frac{1}{2}[/math]
I mean it's in the thread you postet to, no?
 
@NikolajK Huh? I don't know any index theorems yet.
 
Is this an accurate fbd for a boxc about to slp off an accelerating truck bed due to frction? postimg.org/image/idg05g0l7
 
You probably know the Euler characteristic stuff?
 
@NikolajK Yeah
Why are we talking about index theorems though?
 
why?
you mean why it's called like that?
 
7:40 PM
@NikolajK I have no idea what we are talking about...
Why did you link that?
 
To show there is LaTeX
 
@0celo7 "I don't know any index theorems yet." Nakahara is a good reference, but a bit terse and encyclopaedic in style.
 
@JamalS I'm only 220 pages into Nakahara.
Working on it.
 
@JamalS: Interesting description, I feel the book is particularly direct
I mean it's a book for physicists
 
@NikolajK I know there is TeX, I just don't know how to do it.
 
7:41 PM
read a math book on index theorems?
 
So [math] [/math]
 
ah, yeah
misunderstood you
it's bad at parsing it, though, use many spaces
I think (with emphasis on think) \frac{1}{2}\frac{a}{b} is better put as \frac{1}{2} \frac{a}{b} there
 
First one in the thread who put the EFEs...
 
EFE?
 
Einstein Field Eqs.
How worth it is reading a pure math book on index theorems?
 
7:44 PM
this question is asking for it
how worth is perusing a career in academia?
Let me put it like that, as Nakahara puts it, Edward Witten is famous four finding an alternative proof to an index theorem
 
Let me rephrase: how worth it is spending a large amount of time reading about index theorems when theoretical physics is a mere hobby?
 
this question still can't have an answer
if math is a huge hobby too, then probably lots
I don't know too much about index theorems
I have to add
 
@JamalS Does BBS use index theorems?
 
you're big on 3 letter abbreviations, aren't you
 
Perhaps, but both are standard.
 
7:47 PM
I know that BBC stands for Big Black Cock. Thank you 4chan.
 
@NikolajK Any American high schooler knows that one.
 
and British Broadcasting Coorporation
ah k, I'm not american, so that's that
 
But what do roosters have to do with anything?
 
Not every American high schooler knows that one ;)
 
But I know that if you're a fag, it's okay as long as you don't have sex with guys. And PS: you should maybe tell your wife about it.
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A: Why is homosexuality a sin if Allah made me this way?

Truth “A person is not to be blamed for his nature. Rather, he is to be blamed if he acts according to his nature.” -Al-Junayd in ‘Hilyat al-Awliya” Our community needs to understand that NO ONE is condemned to Hell simply because they have a desire that is not permissible to engage in. Men ...

 
7:50 PM
So I did a lab in LaTeX instead of Word and it was "gorgeous" and netted a sweet 100.
 
@Ocelo7, how long did it take you to learn?
 
@JoeStavitsky I've been learning since the day I was born...you have to be more specific what you mean.
 
latex
 
@0celo7 you know how once you integrate something, you end up with $F(b)-F(a)$, how do you write the vertical line in LaTeX with the stuff you're supposed to plug in?
 
Ah
@StanShunpike \left. \right|
There's a way to make the line bigger but it escapes me.
I have a macro in one of my packages that makes it bigger automatically.
 
7:54 PM
That's what he said?
 
@JoeStavitsky I'm still learning. I don't know how to do commutative diagrams very well, for instance.
@NikolajK Yeah.
 
@0celo7 You need that $H$ is a normal subgroup for $G/H$ to carry a group structure.
 
I can do the straight forward ones, as in here axiomsofchoice.org
 
LaTeX looks really nice compared to the 14 other papers typed in Word.
 
that even works on StackExchange
drawing that diagram, I mean
$$
\require{AMScd}

\begin{CD}
\text{physics} @>{\text{!}}>> *
\\
@V{\text{m}\ }VV @VV{\top}V
\\
{\large\heartsuit} @>>{\chi}> \Omega
\end{CD}
$$
 
7:55 PM
@Ocelo, ok, but just to be more or less operational, how long did it take?
 
@JoeStavitsky Let me look at the dates of some of my earlier LaTeX ramblings.
@JoeStavitsky I was typing tensor equations in January of 2014 it seems.
 
So what'S BBS?
 
@0celo7: It follows from the proof that the kernel of the projection onto the quotient of a group is always a normal subgroup.
 
@NikolajK Becker, Becker and Schwarz String Theory and M-Theory
 
>that's standard
lol
 
7:58 PM
yea ok probably not over the summer then :)
 
(and I even read parts of that book)
 
@JoeStavitsky Totally over the summer.
I didn't know what LaTeX was until maybe November of 2013.
 
now you can't get rid of that fetish
 
There are some good guides out there that you can read.
 
I'd say just take a reference text and build from it
 
8:00 PM
@NikolajK google.com/…
In the context of strings, it is standard.
Also I asked Jamal about BBS the other day and he seemed to know what I was talking about.
 
2edgy4me
>he seemed to know what I was talking about
plot twist: he was answering to something completely different ^^
 
But the answer made complete sense!
 
it's string theory
okay, gotta go, nice (and weird) talking to you, bye!
 
Weird?
 
but I thought you said it took you like a year?
 
8:04 PM
@JoeStavitsky I did? Where?
Who does that?
You can't snap undergraduate stuff and expect people to be impressed.
Also $\psi\in\mathbb{C}^2$?
@ACuriousMind Looks you're on /sci/.
 
8:45 PM
@0celo7 Heh
 
9:18 PM
Guys, I'm inclined to write a long self-answered post about the Caldiera-Leggett model and how to understand dissipation in energy conserving theories.
Is there a preferred format for this? Is a simple self-answered question the right way to go?
 
@DanielSank Do you have an alternative format in mind? I think a self-answered question would be perfectly fine.
 
@DanielSank I do too.
 
@ACuriousMind Will do that then. Thanks.
I didn't have anything in mind, but I also am not always up to date on the latest SE functions.
 
Ah, alright. No, I know of no alternative that would be better suited for this
 
9:42 PM
@MarkMitchison how to solve $\delta \rho / \delta t = -i[\rho,H] + L_{deph}(\rho) + L_{dissipation}(\rho)$ where the deph and dissipation from plenio and huelga?
 
9:54 PM

 Plants and Quantum Mechanics

To examine different aspects of a theory on plants and their r...
 
@DanielSank Ehh... go for it?
@DanielSank Sure it is!
@0celo7 "advanced" QM lol
Also hi guys
 
Hi Danu! Done catching up with chat ;)
 
'twasn't too much
 
Standard QM = cats and such
Advanced QM = numbers
 
Oh yeah also guys
the 4chan link
the first guy who claimed he'd published and gave a link
100% troll
he's a pretty famous mathematician
 
10:09 PM
@Danu To be fair, he could be on 4chan. So 99.9999%.
 
Yeah... no
this guy has claims on having solved the "abc conjecture"
 
I know who he is...
 
(nobody has, as of yet, been able to verify his claims because the framework he developed is so advanced)
right
So yeah... no :P
 
You can't exclude it 100%
 
Oh come on
 
10:10 PM
Quantum fluctuations ;)
 
That's just... something worse than wishful thinking ;P
 
@Danu I'm not sure there is much worse than wishful thinking :P
 
@ACuriousMind So German
 
@DanielSank I think I figured it out physics.stackexchange.com/a/172370/66165 kind of a silly mistake, but I learned a lot!
 
@Danu Hehe. What do you expect?
 
10:16 PM
Someone got a little mad, methinks
I answered the questions. The inflation issue came up because Steinhardt featured on Horizon program and the BICEP2 team hyped their paper with a video of Linde packing his bags for Stockholm. As for objective answers, there is no evidence for string theory, and you might like to ask Liam McAllister how gravitational waves from the instant of creation can be detected in CMB photons emitted 300,000 years later. To be blunt: it's like tapping a jelly with a spoon, then throwing it in a blender for a quarter of a million years, then claiming you can still detect the ripples. — John Duffield 2 hours ago
Am I the only one who's getting the vibe he's just seen some pop-sci stuff? Not to be rude or anything, but it seems he's reluctant to bring any real arguments to the table.
 
Angry nerd (as you like to call them) detected
@Danu Yep, just downvoted that answer for not giving a single physical argument in trying the answer the question, but only referring to pop-sci articles.
 
Why? Can't nerds get angry? :D
 
@infinitesimalsimplicio They can. But, more often than not, it would behoove them, like every other human, to be a bit calmer.
 
@ACuriousMind Behoove is such a great word :)
@ACuriousMind That's what I did, too
 
10:25 PM
Have you guys read roger penrose's road to reality?
 
@Danu Yeah. It always makes my day a little brighter when I can use it ;)
 
@infinitesimalsimplicio Nope. Strangely, I have heard some people recommend it, although I was convinced Penrose has become a crackpot. Maybe only after he wrote the book...
 
On the other hand, having "strange" stances on some research issues must not necessarily impede one's clear vision on the more basic (at least in your view) issues.
E.g. 't Hooft, who is still a (good, I think) professor at Utrecht teaching "normal QM" and stuff even though he's working on wacky cellular automata and stuff
@ACuriousMind I'm tempted to respond with this: "I was just pointing out that you did nothing to substantiate your answer. String theory has nothing to do with this, nor do your handwavey (at best) objections based on bad analogies which I doubt you can make into precise arguments"
Then again, maybe I should just let it rest
 
I thought Penrose's neuro books sucked
 
10:32 PM
^ That's what I presumed
 
They were more about ontology than neuroscience and really didn't show any effort to study actual neuroscience. He seemed to just want to try to make weird mathy claims about how reality is perceived.
 
@Danu I would leave it at the first sentence. Or, at least, my unfun, de-escalation preferring self would ;)
 
@StanShunpike Obligatory smbc comic
@ACuriousMind Yeah m'kay, I guess just to establish that I stand by my point.
 
@TAbraham Should be done.
 
Also, see how I'm slowly taking over your niche, @ACuriousMind? Evolution at work: I'm an adaptive specimen :D
 
10:36 PM
@Danu lolol that certainly was my impression reading Penrose. And his partner in crime Stuart Hameroff seemed to be piggybacking off of Penrose's fame.
 
@StanShunpike There should be some kind of standard comic about the latter point as well.
 
@Danu There's...room enough in this niche for us both?
That sounds weird :D
 
@ACuriousMind I'll niche up with you any day, my dear friend!
(lol)
 
You guys should get niched
 
10:38 PM
::checks urban dictionary for meanings of "niche up"::
 
@ACuriousMind It just sprang from my curious mind!
Okay, that was too cheesy
 
Must I call John Rennie to put you in your place again? ;)
 
Oh please mister, I've been such a naughty boy
 
If curiosity killed the cat what did it do to the mind? :-)
 
@ACuriousMind That was a "burn" for the ages though :)
 
10:41 PM
@infinitesimalsimplicio Terrible, terrible things
 
Wait... what happened to it?!
 
@Danu What happened to what?
 
Don't tell me someone flagged it
 
yesterday, by John Rennie
"All night long" - travelling at near the speed of light were we? Amazing how 5 minutes time dilates :-)
It's right there
 
But the stars?!
Huh, now it's back
o___0 It had disappeared for me
 
10:42 PM
It's right there, it was all the time
 
Terrible things to the mind indeed!
Ima never touch that jar of "curiosity" of yours again
 
The algorithm that determines what starred items are shown is a bit weird sometimes
 
Turned it into a Schrodinger's cat :D
ba dum tss
 
chirp chirp
 
over 9,000 hours later...
 
10:48 PM
I have no clue what is going on in this conversation.
 
You're probably just a little Fuzzy in the brain
 
4chan, nobel prize winners and penrose, QM and john rennie punishing danu for being naughty. Again!
:o
 
Delicious food for thought
 
It's clear as day to me.
 
Because you sir are a clear thinker.
While danu has a gift for communication
 
10:51 PM
@StanShunpike Did you read Kurzweil's book (on neuro... stuff)?
 
@alarge Nah, should I? I've been trying to digest Gordon Shepard.
 
@infinitesimalsimplicio Why thank you! :)
 
And @infinitesimalsimplicio seems to be a sly master of flattery
 
I am sincere.
 
10:54 PM
@StanShunpike I think it was entertaining. It's not technical, so a quick read.
 
Cool. I'll check it out. I think I saw a video with that dude in it.
@alarge I'm very excited. I'm taking my first neuro class Monday. It will be an introduction to signaling and modeling. We'll use MATLAB and stuff. It should be awesome
 
@StanShunpike Cool. What level? Neural networks or Hodgkin-Huxley?
 
@alarge I'm not sure tbh. The guy teaching it wrote the textbook [linked below] I have no idea if he's a good teacher, but I think the book is nice. We are also using the companion book.
Sorry had to repost the link
 
Ah, so it's more of a signal processing 101 type of course (with applications from neural stuff, rather than MP3, JPEG, say, which are often used in similar courses for EE/computer scientists).
Is it also your first time using Matlab?
 
@StanShunpike You can just edit the message
 
11:08 PM
@Danu Well not anymore: you only have 2 minutes to do so.
 
@Danu On mobile, that might prove difficult
 
user54412
Youth these days. Always using mobile devices or Google brain implants or what have you.
 
2007? Isn't that stone age for something like neuroscience?
 
I can edit it for you :)
There ya go
 
When philosophy is guided by mathematics, we get a pedagogically useful oversimplification of mathematics. When mathematics is guided by philosophy, we just get a stifled, bastardized version of mathematics. Let mathematicians lead the way, and philosophers follow after.
 
11:13 PM
@Danu can't on mobile
 
@infinitesimalsimplicio Was this message meant for another room?
@ChrisWhite Are you not accessing this with your cyber-eye right now?
 
@0celo7 The book? It's not like the Fourier transform or the Nyquist frequency are outdated concepts, and that's what the book's mainly about.
 
Oops sorry @ACuriousMind
 
user54412
Broken-window theory in action:
 
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i can't really argue why, other than there does exist a mathematics tag and i've seen similar math-centric questions answered here. — SWV 2 days ago
 
11:15 PM
@ACuriousMind I'm having trouble working out the left invariant vector field of $\mathrm{GL}(n,\mathbb{R})$. So I have the vector $V=V^{ij}\partial/\partial x^{ij}|_e$ at the unit element. Then the left invariant vector at some $g$ is $X_V|_g=L_{g*}V$. I'm not sure how to do that pushforward. I know the rule for "regular manifolds" and "regular vectors" obviously. I just don't see how to apply it here.
 
@ChrisWhite I only came around today to vote as off-topic because the other two days I was out of votes when I remembered that one :/
 
i.e. I don't know what the Jacobian is.
 
In related news, What is a manifold? is still open.
 
Open in what sense
 
@alarge yeah it is, do you think that will be problematic? Lol that's the only thing I'm a bit nervous about. Besides that it looked fine.
 
11:17 PM
@NikolajK Open in the non-topologist's sense of not closed ;)
 
I only speak Grothendieck
 
Clopen questions
 
hi
 
why would it be closed if there is already an answer
 
@0celo7 Do you mean to imply PSE is not connected?
 
11:18 PM
PSE?
is that a woman thing?
ah, physics stackexchange
 
hi @usukidoll
 
@ACuriousMind There's an ocean and lakes...def not simply connected.
 
anyone know if it's possible to nondimensionalize a difference equation? I don't think it is.. we can nondimensionalize a differential equation though.
 
why wouldn't it?
 
umm...
 
11:19 PM
naively, I don't expect taking limits to change this property
 
@StanShunpike Nothing's happened to the fundamentals of signal processing between 2007 and now, so there's nothing wrong with the book.
 
in particular, math doesn't even really know dimensions (mathematicans have a hard time with the general concept even), and so I doubt there's something inherently dimensionful to any difference equation
 
anyone want to take a look at the problem anyway and figure out what it's asking? I can do the last two questions, but they are connected to that problem child question I have to do first
 
@0celo7 Hmm...well, $g$ is a diffeomorphism $\mathrm{GL}(n)\to\mathrm{GL}(n)$, so it has a pushforward - what kind of description do you seek?
 
g a diffeomorphisms sounds wrong
 
11:21 PM
@alarge it should be cool. I thought it would be a neat class because I might learn math useful for other areas as well
 
But...it is. By definition of a Lie group, multiplication by an element of the group is a diffeomorphism
 
Let i be a Hilber space
 
@ACuriousMind I know the result is $$X_V|_g=(gV)^{kj}\left.\frac{\partial}{\partial x^{kj}}\right|_g$$
Here $gV$ is just matrix multiplication.
 
ah, so you even use the same symbol for the group element and it's action on the group! shameful display
 
11:23 PM
@NikolajK Overloaded notation, deal with it :P
 
The rule for the vectors I'm familiar with $$\phi_*V=V^\mu\frac{\partial y^\alpha}{\partial x^\mu}\frac{\partial}{\partial y^\alpha}$$
 
>not $\lambda_g$ or some shit
 
>implying this is 4chan
 
@NikolajK wanna see the question? I have it scanned. it's just 2c. I can figure out the rest.
 
@ACuriousMind So what is $\partial y/\partial x$ for the left translation?
 
11:24 PM
@usukidoll: if it's easy, I'm supposed to be sleeping
 
@0celo7 $g$.
:D
 
@0celo7: >implying implications
 
@ACuriousMind Huh?
 
those two are difference equations... really.... @NikolajK
 
11:26 PM
@0celo7 See, writing the diffeomorphism $g$ corresponds to explicitly is just $x\mapsto y = gx$. Taking the derivative by $x$ gives just $g$.
 
@ACuriousMind I see that...but I need $gV$, not $Vg$.
 
@0celo7 Since your pushforward is in index notation, it's the index that tells you whether it is right or left action, not the action position in the formula
 
Ohhhh
 
@usukidoll: I don't see the task of nondimensionalization
 
I see.
 
11:28 PM
@NikolajK on 2c it says to rewrite the model and rescale it. So does it mean that I have to use subsitution and put those given values into the difference equations so I end up having $Y_{t+1} =$ and $X_{t+1}=$ ?
 
@0celo7 See, that's why I don't like indices ;)
 
@usukidoll: It already tells you X and Y
 
user54412
@ACuriousMind I knew you would say that.
 
@ACuriousMind I think I recall a Ron Maimon rant where he said that no indices is like the worst thing ever.
I think he was referring specifically to $\vec{x}$ notation though.
 
@ChrisWhite :)
 
11:30 PM
ok... so let's see let's have $Y_t=\frac{E_t}{ka}$ so do I have to rearrange this to have $Y_t(ka)=E_t$ and subsitute it into B_{t+1}=ke^{-c\frac{E_t}{B_t}}$ @NikolajK
 
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A: Mathematically-oriented Treatment of General Relativity

Ron MaimonThe Physiccs work in this field is rigorous enough. Hawking and Ellis is a standard reference, and it is perfectly fine in terms of rigor. Digression on notation If you have a tensor contraction of some sort of moderate complexity, for example: $$ K_{rq} = F_{ij}^{kj} G_{prs}^i H^{sp}_{kq}$$ ...

 
My calc teacher wants us to use $\langle x,y\rangle$ for vectors.
 
just take E=aB and B=k·exp(-cE/B) (but plus the right indices) and plug in B=kX and E=kaY
good night
 
-_- why is my chatjax not working?
 
That just looks wrong though.
@ChrisWhite actually not it
 
11:31 PM
just express the two equations in terms of X and Y by the substitutions I mentioned
@ChrisWhite: That's a cool answer
 
@0celo7 He's got a point about "exponential growth" and "diagrammatic notation" there when it comes to efficient notation, but I firmly believe conceptual clarity is worth a few more key- and penstrokes.
 
It was a chat archive IIRC.
 
oh ok and then I find equilibrium from there ^_^ k thank you
 
At one point I lost the disgust for disgusting expressions
 
user54412
@0celo7 It's a good read anyway. I've pointed ACM to it before
 
11:33 PM
for example, I really like nasty integrals
 
@ChrisWhite I've seen that one too.
@NikolajK You got your Ph.D. in triple integrals?!?!
I wish I could do double and triple integrals...
 
triple integrals are hell
double integrals aren't too bad
 
user54412
@NikolajK I think I'm slowly learning to distinguish plain nastiness and beautiful nastiness
 
@usukidoll I think you missed the reference.
 
huh
 
user54412
11:35 PM
there are complicated expressions that are nonetheless natural and intuitive, and then there are those that are wrong somehow
 
@0celo7 Google says that was 4chan again.
 
ok I found out what chatjax isn't working... ddosed -_-
 
user54412
Speaking of ugly/beautiful math: I recently went from Code Golf to Wikipedia to this awesome arXiv paper.
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user54412
"We give an example of a formula involving the sinc function that holds for every N = 0, 1, 2, ..., up to about 10^102832732165, then fails for all larger N. We give another example that begins to fail after about N ~ exp(exp(exp(exp(exp(exp(e)))))). This number is larger than the Skewes numbers."
 
11:45 PM
@ChrisWhite Hehe...that is great
 
Eww number theory
 
11:56 PM
Never say "eww" about number theory to a mathematician ;-)
 
Also, it's not number theory
 
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