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1:10 AM
@Phonon Is there a time when one couldn't use a glass of 20 year old Scotch?
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1:27 AM
@dmckee you got me there...! cheers :D
 
Unfortuantaely I haven't any single malt in the house right now. I do have an undistinguished but passable bourbon, however. And some very nice milk stout.
 
I'd go for the cold milk stout ^^
 
1:51 AM
mmm... stout
This is an excellent time of year for stout
 
Stone brewery has done one this year. It's pricey, but worth it.
 
2:50 AM
Hey guys I just wanted to get my reputation down thats why i started that bounty :P
The answers were already good/credible :)
 
@dmckee I just visited stone about 1.5 months ago. I love their beer.
 
@BrandonEnright I'm a huge fan of their smoked porter. No complaints about their IPAs either.
 
I'm a big IPA fan so I mostly stick to the really hoppy stuff.
The beer scene is one of the things I miss most about San Diego.
 
My account is deleted!!!! Yipeeee..........!
 
 
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3:55 AM
@BrandonEnright: cf. your point about ME reviewers getting the badge and then stopping...since I started paying attention to the FP queue, I don't think I've seen #2 overall move a digit
 
@KyleKanos No he got to 1000 and stayed there for a few months and then did one more review and has been at 1001 for a few months.
 
Well I've only been active in that particular queue for about a month
I totally want the gold badge associated with that review category, but it's more because of pride for helping out that much with the site
 
@KyleKanos At least gold badges are motivation to get started :-) I didn't think I'd go past 1k either
 
I'd love to get a gold badge in something like Late Answers, but there are so few of those that it just doesn't seem feasible.
 
@KyleKanos Yeah it seems nearly impossible. I've been trying for more than a year.
 
4:01 AM
Shiiiiit. 452 reviews in over a year!
 
Even the math.se late answers queue is like that
 
I've got a meager 137
I bet it's like that on all the Science sites
 
I wonder where Hunter went. He popped up on the site one day, was very active, and then just disappeared.
 
He was "converted" by the PO group
 
@KyleKanos Ah okay. I wonder if PO is attracting the sorts of folks they hoped to attract to answer all those complex calculational questions.
 
4:16 AM
I think Valter Moretti is active there. Arnold Neumaier definitely went over there. Not sure about new members
 
All the "I was studying from <textbook> on the subject of <sophisticated topic> and working out the <equation> and I ran into a question about <complex mathematical statement>...".
Huh I just took a look and there are questions asking for someone to review / referee a specific paper. No specific question, just a paper and a request. That totally wouldn't work here.
 
Like as an actual question?
 
I mean, they asked that as a question? I thought they had a chat set up for that stuff
 
It looks like a question to me. Perhaps I just don't understand the interface?
 
4:22 AM
Their UI really is awful
 
The SE software does spoil us a bit.
 
Lol...they have 15 questions on Astrophysics compared to 673 on QFT and 329 on string theory.....biased much?
Well, now that the Steelers eked out a win, I've gotta get off to bed
 
@KyleKanos Have a good night!
Haha I see Dilaton voted to close a question on PO for "PhysicsOverflow is a graduate-level and above physics site, which means that it is for advanced students and physicists. This seems rather a popular physics question, targeted at a general audience. I am therefore voting to close.".
He gives us a hard time about trying to enforce good quality answerable questions useful to a broader audience than just one person (the questioner). His PO close vote reason seems to be the same thing in the opposite direction. This strikes me as a bit hypocritical.
Damn, I edited a question and the asker rolled my edit back. Then I was in the middle of answering the question when it was deleted.
 
 
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7:53 AM
@KyleKanos: We have nearly 3000 QFT, and only about 500 astrophysics.
 
8:12 AM
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Q: Should Spam posts be edited?

Mad ScientistI noticed that the posts of the recent spam surge on AskUbuntu were all edited by community members into something like EDITED - REMOVED SPAM ANSWER or similar. While I understand why the users have done this and I too don't want to leave the spam content visible for longer than absolutely...

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@BrandonEnright (and everyone) ^^
 
@DavidZ Interesting. My main goal of editing was to prevent the content from getting indexed by Google where the spammer could actually benefit from such a post.
The accepted answer to that Meta post involves the closing statement "In short, the community is usually too fast for spammers, so by the time anything can happen out of it, it's already gone." which I don't think is actually true here.
Of course, if the generally accepted practice for spam is to not edit it then I won't :-)
 
I suppose it is less true here than on the bigger sites, but still somewhat true, and when you edit the post it screws up SE's internal spam analysis system
 
@DavidZ Ah interesting. Sorry about that!
 
So, as far as I know, yes, you shouldn't edit spam posts.
No problem :-)
 
@DavidZ: We're considered a 'small' SE? :(
 
8:16 AM
Depends on how you define "small"
but see this
 
@JamalS My feeling is that we have a high ratio of new users to old active users. This causes us to run into some interesting problems that other SEs don't see as much.
 
 
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11:02 AM
Can anyone recommend a pedagogic text which deals with errors, rates of convergence, etc. of Galerkin's finite element method?
Preferably near an introductory level
 
11:35 AM
@BrandonEnright That's something peculiar from an SE viewpoint, but that is not an "ordinary question", they explicitly introduced such "reviews" as another kind of posts they want to have
 
 
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1:30 PM
I may or may not be able to make it to the chat session today (starting in 2.5 hours)
 
Ah, inappropriate time.
Change the time of conference dude, it's not appropriate.
 
@FreeMind the time of the chat session? How can a time be inappropriate?
Or do you mean you can't make it? (which is not the same thing!)
 
However, Someone please introduce me to a source which explains the history of physics constants
Yeah, the time the session is hold is not the time I would be able to participate
I cannot make it dear word chewer.
 
:-/
Well, you can ask on meta if people would like to see the chat sessions held at a different time.
 
Okay, any source for my question?
Bb
 
1:41 PM
Maybe the NIST website? They have the values of the constants, but I don't know if they have any of their history.
You could also ask in History of Science and Math chat
 
I mean , how the hell they found plank constant?
Dude, you're post doc in high energy physics, how it is that you don't know a source for it, you should have covered these stuff.
 
Why exactly should I have covered this?
 
1:57 PM
@FreeMind It seems pretty straightforward. Measure everything except the constant in an equation and you will get the value of the constant.
 
2:37 PM
Physics professors are 89% more likely to open an email from Nigerian royalty over one from a student.
 
@JamalS Yes, a ratio of about 6:1, whereas PO has a ratio of about 45:1. Methinks they have no clue what an "advanced theoretical, highly technical" astrophysics question is because they don't have any active astrophysicists there.
 
Amirite? Anyone here who has had the experience of sending tons of individually crafted emails out and to have like 1% of them get replies? :p
(no offense to any present company, I'm exaggerating)
 
@JamalS I use the Finite Volume Method, so my suggestion may not be the best, but Johnson's Numerical Solution of Partial Differential Equations by the Finite Element Method might be one to look at
 
@ManishEarth Reminds me of an old PhD comic.
 
lol
 
2:53 PM
@ManishEarth Was that for the link, or for the fact that I discovered that adding only the URL in a chat message didn't work in this case?
 
the former, though come to think of it the latter was funny too :p
 
Haha. Yes :)
 
@ManishEarth: Yes, absolutely.
@ManishEarth: It's frustrating when they don't send any reply, even when I actually ask a non-trivial question about their research which they haven't addressed in their paper!
 
hah
 
There is one professor (which I won't name) who has consistently answered my e-mails within an hour of being sent which is a pleasant surprise!
And he must be incredibly busy, because he works in one of the "top 10" universities for physics.
 
3:04 PM
nice!
 
 
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4:26 PM
So chat never happened today?
(He says to an empty echoing chamber... :)
 
Jim
you want to talk?
I'll listen
 
Hi Jim! More just wondering if they changed the schedule. Usually someone comes on and says "chat time!"
 
@TerryBollinger That one is DavidZ, and he isn't here ;)
 
Jim
*In DavidZ's voice* Chat time!
 
Ah, the leader is absent, but the audience lingers on. How are you doing Curious?
Is ACuriousMind an intentional omage to Nash, or just a coincidence? Amazing fellow Nash. His last paper before his... long break?... was a very novel proof on embedding manifolds in Euclidean spaces, if I recall correctly.
 
4:35 PM
I think Chat hasn't happened yet
I think it's supposed to start at 1:00 pm EST
 
The emails I get are never very consistent about time zones. I get one at 8am ESt, or 8:30am EST today, and it says "in three hours". Today Physics SE said it ended over half an hour ago>=?
 
@TerryBollinger I've not thought about the similarity to A beautiful mind when I chose this name, so it's no homage
 
Jim
What? it's 11:30am EST now
I got a popup on chat that said it was starting about now
 
Though Nash is indeed a very interesting fellow
And, on my end here, it says chat began 38 mins ago and ended 8 mins ago
 
Weird... my message said ending? We need a relativity expert here, anyone available?
 
Jim
4:39 PM
good luck finding a relativity expert on a physics chat
 
There are no experts in relativity
 
ACuriousMind, that's the same message I was seeing. I think it might be a good idea if someone fixed something...
 
Jim
2 out of 3 means we missed it
 
It's all relative I always heard...
 
@Jim Well, if we missed it, we'll just make our own chat here now
 
4:41 PM
Hmm, this says that our scheduled chat session started 41 minutes ago
And this says it ends in 18 minutes
 
Jim
@ACuriousMind yeah! who are they to tell us when we can and can't talk a lot
 
Speaking of relativity, going through Kip Thorne's finally Kindle-available book (we can thank Interstellar for that I'm sure) is both delightful and frustrating. Delightful because of so many little insights -- Hawking radiation as tide-induced pair production, how elegant and cool is that little snippet!
But frustrating because the landscape changes so much over the decades that he covers that I am left wondering "and why should the current version be any more accurate?" Given Hawking's almost-paper, maybe it's not.
 
Jim
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Q: Natario warp drive

JonnyPythonThere are two solutions to Einstein's equations that allow for warp drive. One is the Alcubierre warp drive and the other is the Natario warp drive. What is the difference? Is the Natario warp drive better suited for a real life application than the Alcubierre warp drive? Here is a paper in whi...

what am I missing in this comment exchange?
 
"real life applications?" I like it...
 
@Jim Nothing but the fact that OP seems a bit...unwilling to engage in constructive discussion
 
4:46 PM
You obviously didn't read the other paper....
 
Is "Has this warp drive real life applications" a question about engineering? ;P
 
I wonder if there's a way to convince Congress to hold hearings on the national security implications of both drives, and why such drives are the fault of the Executive branch? It might make for entertaining CSPAN coverage...
 
Jim
I tried to directly read the paper it came from, gave my analysis of it, and because I didn't go by someone else's analysis I'm staying ignorant. I feel like that's backwards
but now my brain hurts. I'm going to lunch
 
More seriously, I found Alcubierre easily enough (and now recall seeing its description many years ago, if not the name), but the Natario seems to be more a critique of the Alcubierre idea than a separate idea.
(At least from a quick Googling, nothing more.)
Speaking of warps and temporal uncertainty, my break's up and I've got to drive somewhere. Can't make the chat... if there is one?... at 1 EST. Have fun all!
(Your name is Godparticle, with a picture of Feynman? Hmm I say, hmm...)
 
5:02 PM
@TerryBollinger Not everyone can be Terry Bollinger with a picture of Terry Bollinger. Some of us have to get creative ;)
 
I really don't like what Harold White's done for science
He's claiming something impossible is possible
And the public is behind him because what he promises is Star Trek
 
I must confess I hadn't heard that name before
Possibly because I stay faaaar away from all popular science accounts of Sci-Fi concepts. I can enjoy Sci-Fi, but only if it's technobabble, and not actually trying to be scientific
 
Don't bother looking him up
 
5:33 PM
Very frustrating to write 90% of an answer and have the question closed out from under you!
 
@ThePhoton I had one deleted out from under me yesterday. It can be frustrating.
 
@BrandonEnright, you're one of the ones who thought the question was "not clear". Can you explain why you think it's not clear?
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Q: Standing wave ratio vs Frequency

AnujWhat is the relationship between Voltage Standing Wave Ratio and frequency in context of transmission lines?

 
Which question?
 
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Q: Standing wave ratio vs Frequency

AnujWhat is the relationship between Voltage Standing Wave Ratio and frequency in context of transmission lines?

I can see if you want to migrate it to EE. But the question isn't loony tunes. It can be answered. It is not at all "unclear what [OP] is asking"
 
@ThePhoton Sure. What is a "voltage standing wave ratio"? Are these power transmission lines? Transmission antennas? Voltage ratio to what?
 
5:38 PM
@BrandonEnright "VSWR"is a very well known parameter in transmission line theory.
Like if I say "quark" in a question you don't have to ask if I'm asking about the subatomic particle or the Star Trek character.
 
@ThePhoton: We cannot choose EE.SE as a target in the default dialog. But I meantain that it is unclear what you're asking because OP didn't even bother to provide minimal context for what they are asking about. Not even the tags are helping.
 
Is "transmission line theory" an established tag?
 
There is no transmission line tag
Actually, nothing even beginning with transm
But is it something that appears often enough on this site to warrant such a tag?
 
Nope, the're isn't any. Which is strongly indicative that you should not throw well-known technical terms from that field around here without explaining them
 
@KyleKanos Not necessarily, but how can OP tag it with that if it doesn't exist. I've retagged it with 'electromagnetism'.
But I don't have enough rep to edit without peer review.
 
5:42 PM
I think this is really better on EE.SE, now that I know what it is about. Have you flagged for migration?
 
@ACuriousMind I've flagged. But I didn't specifically ask for migration. I don't think I can flag it twice.
 
See my edit and I cast a reopen vote.
 
@BrandonEnright Thanks!
 
I think the main issue with the question was that it used an engineering term and didn't provide enough context for people unfamiliar with the specific field to have any idea whether the question was gibberish or not.
 
^exactly
 
5:51 PM
Is there a rep threshold to be able to see edit history?
 
Nope, just click the time stamp of the "edited <time> ago"
 
I ones that one, maybe because I have a bit of EE background and it seemed to make sense to me? I would vote to reopen... (but now really am leaving)...
 
@BrandonEnright, I don't think the question is meant to be about power lines like your edit specifies. VSWR is used for RF transmission lines. I don't know whether it's also used for power lines or not.
 
"OKed" vs "Ones", got to turn off spell check...
 
hello. is possible in this chat such thing as a private message? Ī was unable to find contact information for one person (namely, ACuriousMind).
 
6:02 PM
I'm not sure what the rep requirements are, but you can create a new chat (link to create new one) and limit the posters to specific users
However, it would not be private as anyone could read the exchange (they just will not be able to post anything)
 
@IncnisMrsi SE has no means of sending truly private messages. Is it something you cannot tell me here?
 
@ACuriousMind: Ī’d only ask to explicate what do you feel wrong about physics.stackexchange.com/questions/147076 (preferably as a comment on the page itself).
Ī hate silent obstructions. if Ī made something wrong, then tell me about it.
 
@IncnisMrsi The problem with the version I closed was that it asked too many questions at once.
 
what is wrong now?
 
And since it didn't show up in my reopen queue, I hadn't yet a chance to read the revisions. Doing that now
 
6:11 PM
@IncnisMrsi I suppose you haven't yet read my email response?
 
@Kyle Kanos: now see it. unfortunately used Web interface that might have a glitch,.
 
Thanks to whoever migrated the transmission line question!
 
@ThePhoton Yer welcome ;)
 
@Kyle Kanos: doesn’t physics.SE has its own jurisdiction over format of conversations?
 
@IncnisMrsi I'm not sure what you mean. What format and what conversations are you referring to?
 
6:20 PM
a link to some discussion at meta.SE without any prominent comments from SE staff does not look as a convincing argument.
and in the case where the staff officially discouraged complex questions Ī’d not spent my time for these sites.
 
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Q: One post with multiple questions or multiple posts?

deamonI want to ask several questions about the same problem domain but each question is independent from the others. Should I put all the questions in a single post or should I split them and send multiple posts? Return to FAQ index

That one is part of the FAQ
 
so what? where is a resolution endorsed by a staff member?
 
Uhh....huh?
It's part of the network FAQ
Doesn't that strike you as being implicitly accepted by SE team?
 
these is a question and there are answers. there is no resolution.
 
@IncnisMrsi The link "return to FAQ index" shows it is part of the offically created FAQ, therefore endorsed by SE as a whole.
 
6:27 PM
Well if that's your thoughts, then why not post a question on Meta.SE and ask for clarification from an SE team member?
 
Ī detest meta.SE.
there are arrogant and trigger-happy babblers, much like Wikipedia “administrators”.
so, have Ī to split the question yet a time or possibly two?
 
As I said in my email, I would vote to reopen your question if you narrowed it down to one or two questions
 
@IncnisMrsi I just wrote exactly that as a comment there
 
well, Ī was wrong and neglected to read the FAQ. sorry for a wasted time.
 
To be honest, I doubt everyone is expected to read the FAQ, it's there for cases where someone new doesn't know the rules and we can point to an authoritative source
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6:53 PM
@IncnisMrsi I just saw your email. I voted to close your question because I thought it was too broad (indicated in the close reason). I haven't looked at it again.
 
 
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10:03 PM
@ACuriousMind hey, any nice posts lately?
 
@Phonon Nothing that comes to mind, but I haven't been watching that closely today
 
10:39 PM
Urgh, dem anonymous downvotes
 
10:56 PM
@Phonon @ACuriousMind I kind of like this one, but mostly because it allowed me to write an answer (first in a long time), and about something I used to be very curious about before I understood it
 
@Danu yeah saw the post and your answer few mins ago(along with an +1), it was satisfying even before the edit ;)
speaking of Einstein, I had the pleasure to read one of his less famous papers
 
@Phonon hmm?
 
published in 1917, on quantization, the one where (as part of the old QM theory) he notices the difficulty in quantizing classically chaotic systems
there's a nice review on it, let me find it for you, you may like it.
 
@Phonon sounds cool. Can you also link the original paper?
 
@Danu sure, let me find you the translated version of it
 
11:08 PM
No need
I speak German
(and French, and Dutch)
 
really? ah didn't know :DD nice man
ah bon?^^
 
pas trop bien
 
t'as passé du temps en france ou quoi?
 
mais lire, c'est toujours plus facile que parler non
nah, simply high school
 
t'as aussi raison :)
no but that's good
 
11:09 PM
6 years plus I'm pretty good at languages (especially after taking latin, that makes everything much easier)
what's high school?
is there a special word?
 
lycée
 
ah yeah
I forgot
btw
 
école secondaire marche aussi
 
was todays game a boring draw or was it me?
 
it wasn't just you :p, it was a well known line up to the 15th move
type of positions Ivanchuk and Kramnik have played a lot,
 
11:11 PM
and after that, no sparks? :P
 
then Anand didn't try for any complications, so Magnus just finished development and equalized perfeclty
 
it looked quite similar to the earlier game
the one Anand won?
 
no
 
to one of them at least up to move 7 ish
which is as far as my opening knowledge goes lol
btw can you link that einstein paper?
 
sure, let me first find that anand game :p
 
11:14 PM
has all games
left arrow above the board
 
Anyone here hate hats?
 
yeah similar start but then without c5 from magnus, which made the position transpose to a diff setup
 
@ManishEarth I don't like them particularly
 
context
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Q: Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaats?

ManishearthLast year, we had the Winter Bash on Physics Stack Exchange. For those who weren't around or don't remember, the event is one where completing various achievements on the site earns you different hats that can be "worn" on site; appearing on top of your gravatar wherever it is shown on the site....

 
LMAO, excerpt from the press conference today: "Magnus, Nigel Short called your opening today the "Condom Variation"; you use it once and then throw it away. Do you think you can use this opening again?" "We'll see."
@ManishEarth Are they disabled after the 'event' is over?
 
11:19 PM
yep
 
@Danu can't find a pdf of the ger version, it's this one, but here's a translated version
 
@ManishEarth Then I don't really care.
 
@Danu LOL Nigel....this guy has a twisted sense of humour :DD
@Danu btw that review from Douglas Stone is also well written
 
Thanks @Phonon
 
@ManishEarth Those were fun last year but I think they pushed the competition buttons in too many of us.
 
11:24 PM
heh yeah
 
11:56 PM
@Danu @ACuriousMind did you know about these two guys (Peter Shor and G T Hooft) on SE?
quite amazing that they're active members on SE
 
@Phonon Know about them, but I think at least Hooft isn't active anymore
 

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