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12:04 AM
@ACuriousMind I swear to god what I'm proposing here is what Yau did :(
I must be missing something
@ACuriousMind Ah, Fredholm alternative. Do you know it?
 
Yes, it would say that for $\mu$ not an eigenvalue, $L$ is a bijection.
 
Basically, we know that since $Lu=0$ is a Dirichlet problem and $D$ has nonempty interior that $L$ has no kernel on the appropriate Sobolev spaces. So we can solve the problem $Lv=-\mu$, $v=0$ on $\partial D$ uniquely.
Then letting $f=v+1$ gives the result.
@ACuriousMind Yep
 
Yeah, I agree, that works
 
There's a hypothesis that the first nontrivial Dirichlet eigenvalue of $L$ is positive
(I need to check that one too)
@ACuriousMind So Yau gives a hint to look in chapter 6 of Gilbarg & Trudinger, but Li says nothing -.-
Would it have killed him to say something?
@ACuriousMind Of course, I haven't checked the Fredholm alternative on manifold sobolev spaces...
 
12:19 AM
@0celouvskyopoulos Do you need to? I don't know much about its proof, but it's just a statement about compact operators on Banach spaces, isn't it?
 
@ACuriousMind It is, but I don't really trust any of the "proofs" out there for Rellich's theorem on manifolds with boundary.
It's morally true :D
@ACuriousMind This is a mess. Aubin defines "elliptic" to mean $a$ in $L=a_{ij}D_{ij}+\cdots$ is positive, but then defines $\Delta=-\nabla^2$ so that $-\Delta$ is elliptic -.-
 
@0celouvskyopoulos :P Spacelike intervals are the silly things!!! Might as well give them the minus signs!
 
Your name...it has...mutated
 
yes
Hmm. So Yau uses the maximum principle but he has a zero order term
Whoops
Into the trash I guess
Maybe that's why Li uses this strange argument
 
12:40 AM
@ACuriousMind Ok, so assume $f\ge 0$ in $D$. Claim: $f>0$ in $D$. We have $\Delta f+\mu f=0$. Since $f$ is smooth, $\Delta f$ and $f$ are continuous and attain extrema. So for $a$ very negative we have $\Delta f+af\le 0$. Let $u=-f$, then $\Delta u+a u\ge 0$. Apply the maximum principle: the maximum occurs on the boundary. But there it's nonzero.
 
1:15 AM
-jumping in with random question
I know homotopy equivalent spaces have same fundamental group, this is true for all Homotopy groups right (like spaces that are homotopy equivalent have same homotopy groups?)

Is there simple examples of two spaces that have same homotopy groups that are not homotopy equivalent?
 
1:58 AM
Howdy
@0celouvskyopoulos Jesus
 
2:09 AM
@SirCumference Yes, my son
4
 
This is getting out of hand
Flee, you sinners, before this entity assumes the $10^25$ names of God
 
 
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3:53 AM
Can I ask a question?
I mean is anyone active now?
 
depends on the question
 
A pulley system question (mechanics)
Can I?
 
$$\def\avint{\mathop{\,\rlap{-}\!\!\int}\nolimits} \avint_A f(x)\,dx = 1$$
^neat
@MadhuchhandaMandal I don't promise I'll answer.
 
Ok Still I am giving it
In this question, why conservation of energy is not working?
(I can do it using impulse)
 
how are you doing it with conservation of energy?
 
4:04 AM
Initial energy of body A+ body B= Final energy of body A+ body B
 
and what are each of the terms?
 
So , (1/2) m * 0 + (1/2) m (2g) = (1/2) m v^2 + (1/2) m v^2 [Since by constraint, velocity of both the body must be same]
Solving for v, I get different answer than that when I apply impulse
 
what is 1/2 m (2g)?
what's wrong with mg
 
The energy acquired by body B just before the string is taught
(I represented like that for clearity)
 
4:20 AM
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Q: Why Energy is not conserved?

Madhuchhanda Mandal Lets consider the moment when the String is about to become taught (when B comes down by 1m) : Just before the String becomes taught , velocity of B is √(2*g*1). CASE I) : If we apply Concept of impulse : Let impulse received by A be P. Then impulse received by B is -P (Since tension in a ma...

 
Trying to find a GR solution which has oscillating wavelike time dilation effects
It is known that the vacuum solution does not admit that direction of oscillation
But are there more nontrivial wavelike solutions that admit oscillation in the time coordinate?
 
Anonymous
4:47 AM
@MadhuchhandaMandal Duh. Energy conservation won't hold here.
 
Anonymous
I told you few days back.
 
Anonymous
I explained the reason.
 
Anonymous
Tension will do the work here.
 
Anonymous
That "inextensible" in the question is vague.
 
Anonymous
You can't conserve energy and momentum at the same time.
 
Anonymous
4:50 AM
@MadhuchhandaMandal BTW most likely your question on the main site will be closed unless you format it.
 
$$⚭=⟳\mathcal{T}(\frac{⚭}{⥁}\int^࿇ ◌^☉ d\mu)$$
 
5:08 AM
@JohnRennie are there any wavelike solutions in GR that describe something that is similar to oscillation in the amount of time dilation in a region of spacetime. I only knew that there does not exist one for the vacuum solution, but I am not sure about more nontrivial cases?
 
@Secret any gravitational wave does that
 
If I had gravitational wave described by the metric $\eta_{\alpha\beta}+h_{\alpha\beta}$ where $h_{\alpha\beta}=diag(0,1,-1,0)$, it can be found to be propagating in the z direction and oscillating in the x and y direction (where x and y are antiphase to each other), but since the time component is also 0, does it mean it is propagating in the t direction as well?
 
In the weak field case the time dilation is related to the Newtonian gravitational potential by $$\frac{dt_1}{dt_2} = \sqrt{1 - \frac{2\Delta\Phi}{c^2}} $$ where $\Delta\Phi$ is the difference in the potential.
Anything that changes $\Delta\Phi$, like a GW, will change the relative time dilation, though in the case of a GW the change will be vanishingly small.
 
ok so in that case we can have gravitational time dilation that varies in magnitude as the wave pass through the region since GW changes the $\Delta \Phi$?
 
@ACuriousMind for the next two years at least shipping laptops anywhere in the EU is trivial. Shipping laptops to India is a complete nightmare. I know India are just trying to protect their growing home industry, but their import rules are a complete nightmare. Even eBay won't ship to them.
India is the one of the few big economies excluded from the eBay shipping program because of the hassle involved.
@Secret yes.
 
5:29 AM
I see. Next question: We knew that the wavevector of any wave gives its direction of propagation. Analogously we should be able to assign a wave-4-vector to show the propagation of gravitational waves in spacetime. Looking at the above metric, it is clear this wavevector will have a z component, but does it also have a t component as well since it is a propagating and not a stationary wave?
 
5:48 AM
A gravity wave just follows a null geodesic in the same way that a light wave does.
 
6:12 AM
just look up the G wave metric
 
Ah yes, forgot that it travels at the speed of light
 
Hi, I had a doubt.
Which bond does exist in TiO?
Ionic/ Ionic + covalent?
 
I don't think people will know it off the top of their head
Just look up a reference book
The handbook of physics and chemistry probably has it
 
Wikipedia said it is an ionic solid with vacancies
(Although TiO molecules does exists in interstellar space, the context of your question suggest you are dealing with the solid)
 
So Ionic?
Ic.
Ti is transition element right?
 
Anonymous
6:19 AM
@SwapnilDas More towards the ionic side
 
Anonymous
It's a metal and oxygen bond
 
But covalent does exist?
Anything even negligible couldn't be ignored.
 
Ti is a d block metal thus transition metal
 
Anonymous
@SwapnilDas See, no bond is perfectly ionic or covalent. It's always in between the two.
 
Anonymous
Here the ionic character will be more.
 
6:20 AM
Ohk.
 
6:39 AM
@Kaumudi.H anti-virus still behaving itself?
 
I like the first sentence of "Lost causes in physics"
"This subject has been thoroughly worked out and is now understood. A thesis on this topic, even a correct one, will not get you a job."
Short and to the point
 
7:00 AM
Oh no
Jammer is now doing math on theories
"We assume that a theory $T$ contains three observational terms $a$, $b$ and $c$, denoting, for example, certain set-theoretical predicates, and three theoretical terms $x$, $y$ and $z$ which will soon be specified more closely. We also assume that the formalism $F$ of $T$ contains as (primitive) "logical" constants" equality, assumed to be reflexive, symmetrical, and transitive"
etc etc
 
7:20 AM
@vzn, Bell's just seems to come up in casual conversation sometimes, I think when I'm chilling with Dan Bells equality has come up twice, and sometimes I get into interesting philosophical discussions that take a quantum route and people will all the time challenge me on the true random part
 
user228700
8:02 AM
@JohnRennie Morning :-)
 
@Kaumudi.H Hi :-)
Everything OK laptopwise?
 
user228700
Haven't checked yet because, well, I slept for 12 hours straight last night and have woken up just now.
 
It's been a tiring few days then? :-)
 
user228700
No doubt.
 
user228700
Jesus Christ, it's 1:30 in the afternoon!
 
user228700
8:06 AM
I'll be back in a few when I'm a little less messy and my hunger is sated.
 
See you in a bit then. I'm finally getting down to that programming job that I managed to procrastinate over yesterday, so my latency may be a bit high today.
 
user228700
Ah, nice. No problemo :-) Have fun with that!
 
8:24 AM
@JoshuaLin Yes. $S^2\times \Bbb{RP}^3$ and $\Bbb{RP}^2 \times S^3$ - both are double covered by $S^2 \times S^3$.
So they have the same homotopy groups in all dimensions ($\pi_1 \cong \Bbb Z/2$) but they are definitely not homotopy equivalent.
 
user228700
9:06 AM
@JohnR: No, no problems so far :-) It hasn't been overheating.
 
@Kaumudi.H Cool (literally :-)
 
user228700
Lol, yes :-) Thanks so much (again)!
 
If you want we can uninstall AVG and go through th reinstallation, though whether it's worth it is debatable.
 
user228700
@JohnRennie I was going to suggest that :-P Please do ping me when you're free and we can do that.
 
Do it now?
 
user228700
9:08 AM
Gah, this rickety old chair is going to collapse and I'm going to go down with it!
 
user228700
@JohnRennie Wokay. Uninstalling now...
 
To uninstall just open Control Panel then Programs and Features and uninstall from there
 
user228700
Done. Will restart now...
 
OK. I'm going to run through the install on my test PC so we're looking at the same screens. Please don't leap ahead an click things during the installation until we've agreed what options we're going to choose.
How are we doing?
 
user228700
Right. Shall I run the .exe file now?
 
9:14 AM
You've still got the AVG_Protection_806.exe installer from yesterday?
 
user228700
Yes, yes.
 
OK, run it.
 
user228700
Dyou want to do this via TeamViewer instead?
 
Can do. Did you get TeamViewer installed?
 
user228700
Gimme just a moment...
 
user228700
9:16 AM
Right. I installed it just now (For whatever reason, the internet is a lot better now)
 
user228700
How does this work?
 
OK run teamviewer and give me your ID. e-mail me the password so all the hackers here can't see it :-)
The ID is the 8 digit number
The password is the four digit number
 
user228700
Done.
 
Hmm, no mail yet ...
 
user228700
:-/ I sent it about 2 minutes ago.
 
user228700
9:21 AM
Not even now?
 
Mail can take a little while to work its way through the chain of SMTP servers ...
 
user228700
:-/ OK. In the meantime, I'll grab my lunch lest my mom starts shouting again...
 
user228700
(By grab, I mean bring it up to my room)
 
"Heisenberg's objections-for example, that Planck's basic radiation law could not be understood at all within the framework of Schrodinger's interpretation-were regarded as pedantic"
look at that nerd
 
@Kaumudi.H Still no mail. I've just mailed you. Have you received it?
 
9:26 AM
gonna watch Lynch's Rabbits today
 
@Kaumudi.H or can you text me the details?
 
@BalarkaSen It's a good show
"If all this damned quantum jumping [verdammte Quantenspringerei] were really to stay, I should be sorry I ever got involved with quantum theory"
 
user228700
@JohnRennie Sorry, I'd gone to get my lunch. I've replied...
 
user228700
Have u got it?
 
Aha! Got it. Right, I'm about to try and connect. You'll get a prompt to allow the connection.
 
user228700
9:31 AM
Wokay.
 
It works! :-) Would you like to run the installer?
 
user228700
Yep. It's strange, I didn't get a prompt or anything :-/
 
user228700
Oh well :-)
 
@Kaumudi.H Run the installer ... ?
OK I'm going to choose the custom install (once the download is complete)
 
user228700
OK...
 
9:35 AM
@JoshuaLin See this MO thread, counterexamples include the closed topologist's sine and the product of Eilenberg-Mac Lane spaces for any given space.
 
I normally install only the top two option
 
user228700
What do the last three do?
 
user228700
Why don't you enable the last three?
 
Hacker attacks is a firewall, but Windows already has a firewall
 
user228700
I see. OK, then.
 
9:37 AM
Private data can do encryption, but Windows already has encryption built it
And payments shield attempts to spot phishing web sites but (a) it's a bit hit and miss and (b) you have a brain to do that :-)
 
user228700
OK :-) No need, then.
 
OK to proceed?
 
user228700
Yep.
 
Hello@yashas
 
@Maxwell hi
What's the question? :P
 
9:50 AM
@Yashas, would you like to share your opinion on this question physics.stackexchange.com/questions/328686/…?
I have added my teachers logic as well
 
Wasn't it discussed before?
He used F = ma :|
You get F = ma from the 2nd law
 
@yashas , but I didn't show you the teacher proof earlier
 
You get the concept of inertia from the first law
mass is the measure of inertia
 
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@JohnR: Still 97% but I have a question: so if my friend and I want to watch a movie together but we're not physically together, we can do that via TeamViewer, yes?
 
@Kaumudi.H I doubt the TeamViewer link would be fast enough for that. As a general rule video won't play over this sort of link.
 
user228700
9:55 AM
Ah, OK. So can I watch Forrest Gump while having my lunch now without bothering you as well? :-P
 
When you're streaming video it's heavily compressed to squeeze it through the restricted Internet bandwidth. But TV can't do that level of compression.
If you want to watch video now I will have to disconnect the TV session then reconnect it to complete the install. Let me take a quick look now before you do that ...
 
meh forrest gump is ok
 
@yashas, so d correct or b?
 
I dono
I don't like his explanation
I would mark D
I feel so weird now after looking at that proof.
 
@yashas, what's the defect/ where is the defect? So that I could say him about that.
 
9:59 AM
The concept of inertia is defined from first law.
 
@Kaumudi.H restart now?
 
@yashas, yeah. Then
 
The first law says that a body has inertia: it tends to continue its motion unless acted upon by an external agent. This defines the concept of inertia and mass.
 
user228700
Yeah, I'll disconnect, then?
 
user228700
@JohnR: I'm back!
 
10:02 AM
@yashas, is it over?
 
user228700
@BalarkaSen I think it's great!
 
Momentum is defined as mv :/
I don't like this now lol
Newton's second law uses momentum
I don't know what the definition of momentum is
 
@yashas, please pinpoint his mistakes so that I can aware him.
 
@Kaumudi.H can you mail me the password again - the password changes each time
 
I don't know
 
user228700
10:05 AM
Sent!
 
@yashas, so what's the angle of dip and declination?
 
@Maxwell declination is the angle b/w magnetic meridian and the geographical meridian
I think I have got the spelling of meridian wrong
nvm it was correct
the angle of dip is the angle b/w the magnetic field and the horizontal component
 
@yashas, what is magnetic meridian and geographical meridian?
 
.
 
@Kaumudi.H providing further evidence that my taste in films are strange :)
 
@yashas, Do you know Mr. Pradeep Khsetrapal?
 
Nope
I have heard of that name somewhere
 
@yashas, I guess so. He is a physics teacher as far I know
 
10:25 AM
Is there a source for quantum interpretations that don't drag you through the entire history of quantum mechanics
It's a bit tedious to go through a hundred year of quantum theory for that
 
@Kaumudi.H everything should be fine now. Remember to do an initial scan some time soon.
 
user228700
:-) I'll do it right away.
 
user228700
Did u finish writing that program u were working on?
 
@Kaumudi.H It's several days work. But I'm making good progress.
 
user228700
Oh, wow, I see. That's great! :-) I think I'm going to walk to the town and try to buy some chocolate/lemon soda now.
 
user228700
10:33 AM
It's a long walk so I better buy two of them lemon sodas--one to drink when I get back!
 
@Kaumudi.H You keep doing everything other than studying? lol
 
Walking is studying the road, for sure.
 
@Yashas Sometimes, studying life might be more worthwhile than studying books :P
 
@ACuriousMind How about this?
 
JEE Advanced is less than a month away.
 
10:37 AM
if JEE Advanced is the only thing worth studying for to you, I feel sorry about that
 
:|
I did not mean that
 
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@Yashas Yes. I'm aware that Advanced is only a month away but I have several things to do other than study for it at the moment--for my own well being. Not that any of this is should be a concern of yours...
 
@paracetamol it's fitting, I guess.
@BalarkaSen I liked the iff :P
 
Woo!! I'm off the hook! \o/
^ @rob :3
 
@ACuriousMind well I might have many reasons to feel sorry, the "only if" part wouldn't apply
 
10:40 AM
Is there an orthocetamol?
 
No ._.
There is an orthocresol, however ;)
 
@BalarkaSen I know, but I liked the bizarre mindset the iff implied - you can only feel sorry for people to whom JEE Advanced is the only thing worth studying. I didn't actually approve of the message with "iff", I just liked it.
 
...and a paracresol too ._.
@JohnRennie I thought you were talking about an SE user -_-
 
Anyway, I'm back to the coding grindstone. More chat later.
 
10:42 AM
o/
 
Giving someone nothing but heavy water to drink is a great prank
 
@ACuriousMind Sounds 0celo-ish to me.
 
"I'm drinking all that water and still I'm dying of dehydration!"
Classic prank
 
@Slereah Brine does the trick ;)
 
Brine tastes fairly briny
I don't think heavy water tastes different
 
10:44 AM
I did not mean to say study just because they would need to write JEE Advanced. It is an important exam which decides college so it is something which shouldn't be ignored?
 
@Slereah No...no it doesn't :(
sniffs
 
Gauld calls the manifold $\Bbb R \times \Bbb L^+$ the "long drink"
 
@Slereah $\mathbb{L}^+$ being the long line? Why call it the "long drink"?
 
@JohnR Oh wait, I forgot! I tried melting the cheese the other day! Quick, ask me how it went!
 
I guess because it looks like a very tall glass
 
10:46 AM
@Slereah Hmm? Would that rather be something like $S^1\times\mathbb{L}^+$?
 
It's like a three miles island tea, except $\omega_1$
Oh right
 
I must be misunderstanding something, since $\mathbb{R}\times\mathbb{L}^+$ looks rather like a version of the plane to me where one direction is "more infinite" than the other
 
Actually the long drink is some manifold called $\Lambda_{0,1}$
Not exactly sure what it is
let's see
 
That was pretty damn scary for a sitcom.
 
It's great
plus it's adorable because everyone is a bunny
 
10:52 AM
i liked the laugh tracks to the seemingly random dialogues
 
@Slereah Bunnies? WHERE?! ಠ_ಠ
 
Sighs
 
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@Yashas "college"=only IIT, as it happens. And IISc as well, I s'pose.
 
I like (real) bunnies :3
 
10:54 AM
Try Watership Down, then
it also has bunnies
 
user228700
Sad ending though.
 
^ Real 'uns?
 
well, realistically drawn ones
 
This one has a sad ending too.
 
@Slereah I guess that's good enough for me! ^_^
 
10:58 AM
I should watch more of Lynch but it's very scary. Lost Highway scared the hell out of me.
god knows what really goes on his mind when he does those transcendental meditations
 

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