@pnuts I don't think biometrics are used for large-scale matching, I am not convinced the technology allows it. As far as I can tell, it's about matching the person with the document whenever there is some suspicion or having them on file for future use.
@gerrit of course it will increase cost, and may or may not be economical. I just wanted to point out that (depending on whether it's economical, presumably) there's more than one way to react to the situation. After all, business (and other) decisions are not only about minimizing costs, but about weighing costs against benefits.
To look at it another way, you asked "how many would lose direct flights..."; my question is about what would happen with those that don't lose direct flights despite a lack of customs facilities.
Thinking about it a bit, I suspect that for airports with a smaller number of flights, the major cost is likely to be labor costs rather than facilities costs. In the long term, building a small customs office near the baggage claim probably doesn't cost that much compared to hiring customs inspectors.
La Palma handles over 1M PAX/a, around 27% International of which ~20% from UK. Say these spend on average ~ €1K/visit. Say it would lose 75% of these if no direct flights. What would make economic sense, forego ~€40M/a or hire Customs people to suit?
@pnuts 3rd option, hire customs but charge the costs to the airport for flights where necessary, making flights more expensive, decreasing passenger numbers a bit but not by 75%.
This question was closed as a duplicate. The background is the same, but the question in the last paragraph is different. The first question was "can I use my existing (nominally valid) visa"; the second is "I know I must get a new visa; if I do, what will happen at the border?"
I went to the US in 2010 with my parents when I was 14 years old. In 2013, when I was 17 years old, we went back to our country. We had a B2 visa. Therefore, I overstayed for more than 2 years. However, I was underage when I left the US. There is an immigrant law that says:
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IMO tough. That's what happens when OPs asked too many Q's at one time. Should I had any issue trying to enter the US? is still in both Qs (more or less). POB anyway.
If OPs have a very similar Q to another (whether or not posted by themselves) they should highlight any differences - or face the consequences. This OP seems to have been determined to camouflage the differences.
@GayotFow wrt. "sovereignty," does it matter? If a dual Dutch/US national were in a country where the US were evacuating its citizens, having entered with a Dutch passport, would the US refuse to evacuate the person? Would South Africa or Germany behave differently under similar circumstances?
@pnuts For the purposes of this hypothetical let us assume that the country is not the Netherlands.
@GayotFow How is it not a third country situation? Pnuts has posited that the country from which US citizens are being evacuated might be the Netherlands, but that wasn't at all what I had in mind. Given the assumption that the country isn't the Netherlands (nor the US), isn't the country a third country? If you would like a specific hypothetical country, let it be Burundi.
"While having dual (or multiple) citizenship is legal in Canada, some countries do not legally recognize dual citizenship. This may limit or even prevent Canadian officials from assisting you, especially if you are incarcerated."
@chx yes I am aware of that. As I understand it, it means that if, for example, you enter a country with your Hungarian passport and then are arrested, the country is not obliged to allow Canada to provide you with consular support. But the country could still choose to allow it. In an evacuation situation, the country doing the evacuating isn't necessarily getting permission from the host country before evacuating people.
@pnuts I chose Burundi because I recently read a State Dep't travel warning for that country. So I'm pretty sure that at least one State Dep't employee knows where it is, and probably several dozen.
@chx Of course. The US is probably also unaware that I am in Canada when I travel to Canada with my US passport.
Maybe there's a coup and the previous administration is still in place enough to pull the "X citizens are in our country" list and hand it over
in that case, maybe?
all I know that this is really complicated
When I was flying from Paris to Los Angeles, I have shown my Canadian passport both for check in and the Paris border check so now I have an exit stamp but not an entry stamp because I entered the EU with my Hungarian passport. It's really confusing , flying with two passports.
I perhaps should've shown my Hungarian passport for the exit check but then the boarding pass and the passport doesn't match? how does that work? I do not know
Yes, I showed my US passport once by accident when I left Slovenia for Croatia (after SI was in the Schengen area and before HR was in the EU). But there's no harm that could come of that.
When I fly from the EU to the US I show my US passport when I check in and my EU passport when I pass border control. AFAIK all they check W.R.T. the boarding pass is that the names match.
If at some point in the future there might be a system that allows them to see that the boarding pass is associated with a different passport, and if they were to ask about that, I'd also show the US passport to satisfy the inquiry.
Did the Paris border officer not ask where your entry stamp was?
@phoog I did when I went there. (Advice to do so is one of the first signs "There may be trouble ahead".) Ended up being e-mailed details, marked "Secret", of confidential travel arrangements for government ministers, reports on usage of hydrogen to fuel cars and a lot more (over a period of years). Only stopped when I explained I was not who they thought I was (so deserved no credit for the mortgage advice someone had much appreciated).
I vaguely recall a discussion about all this but is that really what this note is about? I always thought it was primarily about double citizens who have the citizenship of the country in question.
The text does not go into these details but the basic point is that if you are a citizen, all sorts of bad things can happen to you and being also Canadian won't make a difference.
In other news, France, which does a lot of evacuating (bring in the jokes) has a team with procedures, etc. to sort people showing up based on citizenship and other criteria. Evacuations cost a lot.
I remember reading some powerpoint or something detailing all that.
@Relaxed there is some question about consular assistance for dual citizens who entered a third country using the passport of the other country. There's also a question about consular assistance for those who entered one country of citizenship using the passport of the other; I think the conventions allow countries to deny it in that case, but some countries have bilateral agreements requiring them to grant it.
I've read about that in connection with the US requirement for US citizens to enter the US with US passports.
