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Flaw
Flaw
2:41 PM
Are there an analogs for (possibly regional) fixed responses to acknowledgement-sounds like うん?

Let me set up the context:

In my region, "ya" can be met with "ya ya papaya" as a playful/mocking response.

Also, "oh" (sounds like "oar" but without the "r") is what yam is called in Hokkien. Acknowledgement with "oh"(yam) is frequently met with "han tze"(sweet potato).
 
 
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mirka
mirka
4:30 PM
「うんともすんとも」は response じゃないし…… gogen-allguide.com/u/untomosuntomo.html
 
Anonymous
4:50 PM
@Flaw That reminds me of how people respond to "hey" with "'hey' is for horses"
 
Earthliŋ
Earthliŋ
5:33 PM
@snailboat @Flaw よろしくお願いします。 （お辞儀）
I rejected an edit introducing a new tag [particle-demo]. I guess we could have such a tag, but at least I wouldn't always know when to tag a question with [particle-demo] or with [particle-de],[particle-mo]. In any case, if we want [particle-demo], the tag should probably have more than one question... Any thoughts?
 
Darius Jahandarie
Darius Jahandarie
5:55 PM
I think it was snailboat that added that, hehe.
I think it makes sense to have. It is distinct from de+mo in my mind certainly, and as I think snailboat looked up earlier, at least 明鏡 has an entry for it.
 
 
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Anonymous
7:59 PM
@Earthliŋ I tried to start a little discussion about that in chat yesterday :-) To be honest, I wasn't entirely sure what to do.
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
I create new tags all the time :-) A lot of them don't catch on, and the system deletes them in six months.
 
Anonymous
I think the system removes tags that ① are on less than 5 questions, and ② have no tag wiki.
 
Anonymous
So sometimes I make a little tag wiki excerpt to keep the system from removing a tag.
 
mirka
mirka
I'm a little surprised that the homework tag survived
 
Anonymous
8:04 PM
Oh, we have one of those?
 
Anonymous
Oh, I see
 
Anonymous
Does anyone object to just retagging those 8 questions to kill the tag?
 
Anonymous
We can all agree that it's one of those "meta tag" thingies people talk about so much, right? :-)
 
Anonymous
@mirka We've been doing a little bit of cleaning up the tag system this year, although there's probably a lot more to be done!
 
Anonymous
I was also thinking about renaming interrogatives (which is only on three questions) to interrogative-clauses
 
StackExchange
StackExchange
8:41 PM
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Q: Let's destroy the "homework" tag

snailboatToday in chat, mirka pointed out that the homework tag exists. I think this is clearly a meta tag: If the tag can't work as the only tag on a question, it's probably a meta-tag. Every tag you use should be able to work, more or less, as the only tag on a question. Meta-tags, like [beginner],...

discussion tags
 
Anonymous
:-)
 
Earthliŋ
Earthliŋ
9:31 PM
@DariusJahandarie Is de+mo always demo?
 
Anonymous
No
 
Anonymous
Sometimes it's clearly just で＋も :-)
 
Earthliŋ
Earthliŋ
Ok, good. That's what my intuition told me, but I could just have been confused, I never know ;)
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
9:37 PM
明鏡 says it's a 副助詞, but I think they treat 係助詞 as a subtype of 副助詞 (at least as far as Modern Japanese is concerned)
 
Anonymous
I've really got to get a better understanding of how 副助詞 work in 学校文法
 
Anonymous
10:13 PM
The particle-demo tag is supposed to be for the 係助詞 in the second excite (大辞林) link above, where the combination of either copular で or case particle で plus も has been reanalyzed as a single particle.
 
Anonymous
10:26 PM
 
Anonymous
11:48 PM
I made a tag wiki for particle-demo:
 
Anonymous
> 助詞「でも」. Questions in which でも is a single particle, listed as a 係助詞 or 副助詞 in most dictionaries. This is derived from, but not the same as, the combination of either copular で or case particle で plus も.
 
Anonymous
Does that make it clear enough?
 

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