Japanese Language

Anonymous

3:41 AM

Here's a useful term: 反面教師

Mohan Chaudhari

4:50 AM

hii

Gm

Anonymous

@DariusJahandarie I changed your link to HTTP to make it clickable :-)

Anonymous

HTTPS still isn't supported on meta sites because they can't do a meta.*.stackexchange.com wildcard cert

Anonymous

Long-term, I think they're going to rename the hosts rather than get individual certs

Anonymous

5:09 AM

@DariusJahandarie Oh yeah, I read about that a few months ago on the arXiv blog: medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/…

Anonymous

At the time, people were grumbling about downvotes on meta and I was thinking of putting something similar together, but then I never did

Darius Jahandarie

Oops, didn't even notice it was https because it hides the schema, lol.

Well, I've at least convinced myself to not downvote... no idea if I've convinced anyone else. :)

Anonymous

I don't downvote a lot

Anonymous

I do on occasion

Anonymous

I think if people can manage to be tactful, leaving comments is one of the best options :-)

Darius Jahandarie

5:19 AM

Dunno. I think it really only makes sense to leave comments if you have a clear factual thing that you can point out.

Anonymous

Well, that's sort of what I meant.

Anonymous

I wasn't very specific, I guess.

Darius Jahandarie

6:54 AM

Man, I really hate the layout on meta. It totally doesn't work for long discussions. Why can't I put linebreaks in my comments!

@ssb Thanks for your comments by the way. I got a little too excited when I saw the paper, I think. ;)

Off to bed, night all.

ssb

@DariusJahandarie I do think it's a cool study of course, but that it might more accurately reflect youtube comments or fox news comments or the like

good night!

Anonymous

7:25 AM

Anecdotally, I've definitely seen negative effects on behavior from downvotes

3 to 5 business days

8:51 AM

gamer gate

the fappening

Anonymous

Why are you trying to hurt my brain? :-)

3 to 5 business days

死せる英雄

what is 死せる? A word that is no more?

That's why Stack Exchange platform tries to be based on facts

Otherwise you get those agree/disagree with your opinion votes

I'm saying that the paper does not necessarily reflect the SE community

It's not really a discussion forum

It's Q&A

Disclaimer: I haven't read the paper

Choko

ただいま！

3 to 5 business days

お帰りなさい

Disclaimer: I just looked up in dictionary

can't find that post about downvotes...

oh wait, maybe that was on reddit

Choko

行ってきます！ｗｗ

3 to 5 business days

9:06 AM

wait, don't go yet... lemme check the dictionary for the appropriate response

got it

いってらっしゃい

Anonymous

9:18 AM

I think it's 死す (now 死する) in its form 死し＋あり　→　死せり, in its adnominal form 死せる

Anonymous

You can find it in 古語辞典 as 助動詞「り」

Anonymous

Martin says it's perfect/resultative

3 to 5 business days

equivalent to 死んでいる?

Anonymous

Yes I think it is a literary form with that meaning

3 to 5 business days

Ah, thanks

Anonymous

9:21 AM

So I think 死せる appears before nouns

3 to 5 business days

In everything I've seen so far, yeah.

Anonymous

Because it's the 連体形 (adnominal form) of classical 死せり

3 to 5 business days

Yessss, like べき is the 連体形 of べし

Anonymous

:-)

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.... except now you have べきだ

Anonymous

9:22 AM

べき does not fit cleanly into any part of speech

Anonymous

But historically I think it was more regular

Anonymous

It only really makes sense to put words into paradigms when they actually alternate with one another consistently

Anonymous

べし and べき aren't really regularly used in a conclusive-adnominal paradigm anymore

Anonymous

So it's questionable whether it's useful to say it is still the 連体形 anymore

3 to 5 business days

How is べし used nowadays?

Anonymous

9:27 AM

Well, you can still use literary language

Anonymous

I don't know

Anonymous

Maybe you could ask a question if you want to get an answer about べし and べき and the like :-)

3 to 5 business days

Nah, I'm not really burning to know that

Just an offhanded question

Anonymous

I don't have a lot of experience with hearing べし

Anonymous

I think it sounds older / more literary than べきだ

Anonymous

9:30 AM

But I think it's less common

Anonymous

Someone else would be able to provide a better answer :-)

Anonymous

kotono8.com/2004/05/14beki.html

3 to 5 business days

I have bookmarked the link for later reading, among many such links

This issue is being looked into

Anonymous

9:46 AM

:-)

Ángel Di María

12:02 PM

Hajimemashite

@snailboat お名前は何ですか？

誰もがここですか？

地獄はあなたに男の子どこにいる？

Anonymous

↑　意味不明

Ángel Di María

大丈夫

@snailboat あなたはどの国から来たの？

Choko

@ÁngelDiMaría Do you mean "Is anyone here?" ?

Ángel Di María

@Choko yeah

Choko

haha

Ángel Di María

12:17 PM

?

Anonymous

Sorry for not responding, I am multi-tasking :-)

Ángel Di María

何が起こったのか？私何も悪いことは話されている？ @Choko

Choko

Hmm

Ángel Di María

@Choko 私のミスは何ですか？

Choko

誰もがここですか is like "Is everyone here?"

If you want to say "Is anyone here?"

it's 誰かいますか？

Ángel Di María

12:21 PM

おお修正していただきありがとうございます @Choko

@snailboat @Choko こんばんは

@Choko あなたは日本から来たの？

Choko

I'm from Japan and I'm still in Japan

Ángel Di María

罰金

Choko

「あなたは～～から来たの？」<< Is this what your teacher told you to say to mean "Where are you from?"?

Heh

"fine" has several different meanings

Ángel Di María

@Choko あなたは、マウントフジによって近く住んでいますか？

Choko

Are you learning Japanese? or using Google Translate?

Ángel Di María

12:31 PM

@Choko learning

scriptwise very dump

@Choko 私は、日本人が英語を知らないことを聞いたことがある。それは本当ですか？

Choko

Yes I don't know english

Ángel Di María

@Choko but overall people in japan?

Choko

Should I have said "no"?

Anonymous

@ÁngelDiMaría Is "scriptwise very dump" English? :-)

Choko

doesn't look like japanese

Ángel Di María

12:33 PM

@snailboat englishwise also :) both are not my primary languages

Anonymous

I couldn't understand

Ángel Di María

@Choko I am not japanese

Choko

わかりますｗｗｗｗ

I can see that

Anonymous

@ÁngelDiMaría Good evening! It's actually morning here. I am an American living in America. アメリカに住んでいるアメリカ人です。

Ángel Di María

@Choko yep ...

@snailboat ohh...gr8

Anonymous

12:35 PM

I'm learning Japanese. 日本語を学習しています。

Ángel Di María

nihongono gakusei desu ka?

@Choko is it right?

Choko

@ÁngelDiMaría わかります

Ángel Di María

@snailboat hey i forgot the meaning of "Nihongoshoho" by chance if you know..plz tell me @Choko

Anonymous

@ÁngelDiMaría Look up 日本語 and 初歩 in a dictionary

Ángel Di María

@snailboat 日本語 this is kanzi for nihongo

Anonymous

12:39 PM

Oh! Thank you for telling me

Ángel Di María

dont know about 初歩

@snailboat hehehe ...

Anonymous

@ÁngelDiMaría You will know if you look it up in a dictionary :-)

Ángel Di María

@snailboat I dont have dictionary

Anonymous

Then that would be your first step for learning Japanese

Anonymous

Or maybe get a textbook?

Ángel Di María

12:40 PM

@snailboat yep i have a textbook

Anonymous

Is it called 日本語初歩? :-)

Anonymous

You need a dictionary. You can't ask people what every word means.

Anonymous

You'll have to learn tens of thousands of words.

Ángel Di María

@snailboat ohh...thats really true... i am very poor at japanese...will try to improve

Anonymous

Are you taking a class?

Ángel Di María

12:45 PM

@snailboat yep ... We have Ranade Institute over here in my city to learn different languages..I am learning basics

Choko

Yeah I was curious too... when you greet your teacher "元気ですか" then do you respond 罰金??

Ángel Di María

@Choko no we just greet by こんばんは

Choko

Ohhh... okay

Darius Jahandarie

5:10 PM

元気ですか？
罰金を科するぜ！！

フォローはなんだろう…ｗ

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