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Ahm
12:03 AM
Is there any way to force a table to be printed on an odd page number?
 
1:02 AM
@Ahm That's a fairly tough thing to do robustly, but here's a possible solution:
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Q: Placing figure on an even/odd page

PaulI'm writing a two sided document (it will be printed as a book) and I've got two figures which takes up a whole page each. These two figures are related so I want them to be side by side in the resulting book, i.e. figure1 should be placed on an even page and figure2 should be placed on the follo...

 
 
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9:25 AM
Duplicated:
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Q: line spacing in lstinputlisting with floats

Michael ConlenI have a document with many code listings using \lstinputlisting. Some are floats for convenience and some (multipage listings or others that need explicit placement) do not float. If the listing does not float then it picks up line spacing from the surrounding environment. If the listing flo...

 
9:58 AM
I almost posted this on TeX, then I figured you don't really like LyX anyway. :P
Still, the next best Google hit I can find is this and it looks like overkill given that apparently \includegraphics can deal with PDF files correctly anyway, so you might want to ask and answer this question on your site with pure *TeX stuff.
(is \includegraphics even a thing that people normally use? :P)
 
@badp pdfpages uses \includegraphics too ;-)
 
@badp LyX is generally on-topic here, so it wouldn't be anything wrong in posting here.
 
@TorbjørnT. But I underline the statement ;-)
 
@TorbjørnT. I figured that a question asking about how to use the LyX gui to make something happen wouldn't be welcome here.
Now if the question involved typing in TeX commands manually... perhaps...
 
@badp I've answered plenty of questions using just the LyX GUI.
 
10:03 AM
just one pair of brackets.
 
@badp Thanks :-)
 
@TorbjørnT. Um, I guess the meta questions I've seen are out of date then.
 
@badp Which meta question is that?
 
Um, good question. Rereading the top hits on meta for LyX shows (begrudging) tolerance on the topic :)
At any rate, you might want to give that question a better *TeX answer, either on SO or on TeX.SE
 
10:26 AM
2
Q: Xepersian package prints persian text but does not recognize formulas and gives error

SinaI have used MiKTeX for many works in last year. I didn't have a problem installing it. But now I am trying to install it on my new laptop. It's killing me with an ocean of errors. it has been two weeks, after tackling hundreds of errors finally I have been able to make it recognize Persian text. ...

 
@badp Personally, I don't see the need for that, as your LyX answer does the job just fine. If insert code is necessary, sure, but that's not the case here.
 
I wonder if the question should be 'cleaned up'
 
@TorbjørnT. It's fine if you want to use LyX :)
 
@badp Yes, and your question is about LyX. There has been similar questions here, e.g. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/7938/…
 
@TorbjørnT. Nice, no idea why I couldn't find that while googling :(
 
11:00 AM
if I want to place a pspicture to the right of the page and make text wrap around it, how do I do that? I tried wrapfig but it places the pspicture to the very bottom of my article o.O
 
@cgnieder moin ;)
 
!!/help
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Good morning! I'm Psmith, the friendly TeX bot - the p in my name is silent, as in pshrimp. I'm here as a companion to our fellow users in the typographic land. As you probably noticed, I always reply under Paulo's account, but do not despair, I say, my replies are always preceded by my own name. Enjoy your stay at TeX.sx! If you need any help, just ask our chat residents. Cheerio!
!!/battle
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 145 vs. 150 David. So far, David is winning.
 
@Rico Hi! Or as we say here: Grüß Gott ;)
 
@cgnieder oh for gods sake don't tell me your a "bazi"
 
@PauloCereda No rep-cap yet. Must be a slow day... ;)
 
11:08 AM
@cgnieder Indeed. :)
 
!!/battle
 
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 155 vs. 150 David. So far, egreg is winning.
 
!!/eightball Shall David and I hit rep cap today?
 
@Rico a what? No idea what that is. I simply happen to live near Tübingen (after 10 years in Berlin)...
 
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: If i recall correctly, yes.
 
11:09 AM
@cgnieder I thought that Grüß Gott was more "southern".
 
@egreg they say it in Bavaria but Swabian use it, too. It's the standard greeting around here
But Bavaria and Baden-Württemberg are of course southern...
 
@cgnieder Everything below of Elbe is southern ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel ;) And I thought everything above Main is northern
 
@cgnieder "bazi" is what we call people living in bavaria :) since your from BaWü your aren't one :)
 
!!/translate from de to en Grüß Gott
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: "Grüß Gott"
ooh the quotes!
:P
 
das Buch ist auf den Tisch.
!!/battle
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 175 vs. 150 David. So far, egreg is winning.
 
@PauloCereda Was liest du?
 
@MarcoDaniel you can't divide by 5pt:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Next time I will test it ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel ein Buch über Enten? :)
 
11:33 AM
@PauloCereda Sehr schön ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel aaaand my German skills end here. :)
!!/battle
 
@PauloCereda my English skills end here ;-)
 
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 175 vs. 150 David. So far, egreg is winning.
@MarcoDaniel <3
 
@PauloCereda @DavidCarlisle will answer my question and than David is going to win.
 
@MarcoDaniel oooh a race. :)
 
ach
11:57 AM
does !!/battle take arguments as well ? Could I for example
!!/battle egreg cgnieder
?
 
@ach Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 175 vs. 160 David. So far, egreg is winning.
 
ach
I guess not :)
 
@ach There'd be no point @egreg is far ahead of me, of course! :)
Isn't there a reputation call?
 
ach
@cgnieder yeah it was an example, I just wanted two users with no whitespace names
and I didn't pick myself because well, it would be even less fair !
 
!!/reputation 4427
 
12:06 PM
!!/reputation 5049
 
@egreg **Psmith, the TeX bot:** *User:* egreg :: *Reputation:* 187,267
@cgnieder **Psmith, the TeX bot:** *User:* cgnieder :: *Reputation:* 13,138
 
ach
!!/reputation 75040
 
@ach Psmith, the TeX bot: IO exception.
 
ach
haha
try 2
!!/reputation 29601
 
@ach Psmith, the TeX bot: User: ach :: Reputation: 461
 
12:16 PM
Now, let's try that again:
!!/battle
 
@DavidCarlisle Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 175 vs. 180 David. So far, David is winning.
 
much better
 
!!/eightball will Bayern win today?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: no. And don't be mean to David, he is my friend.
 
12:36 PM
@PauloCereda I hope Bayern will win.
 
Hello
 
@NicolaTalbot Hi
@PauloCereda again please
 
@NicolaTalbot Hi Nicola! :)
 
@MarcoDaniel :-)
 
Someone's posted a feature request asking me to speed up TeX compilation when using glossaries!
 
12:39 PM
@NicolaTalbot ooh magic. :)
!!/battle
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 175 vs. 205 David. So far, David is winning.
@Nicola: some people don't know what they want. :)
 
@PauloCereda Is there a polite way of saying no to this?
 
@NicolaTalbot get them an account on here: hector.ac.uk
 
@DavidCarlisle :-)
 
@NicolaTalbot Perhaps saying that ihe compilation doesn't rely on glossaries alone, but in a greater scheme of things. :)
 
@NicolaTalbot Computation takes time. You have two possibilities: do it by hand or let it do by a program. The second approach needs time.
 
12:43 PM
Perhaps I should just wave a magic wand and make TeX superfast!
 
@NicolaTalbot Harry Potter and the TeX order.
:)
 
@PauloCereda :-)
 
Or that cool woman that flies in an umbrella.
 
@PauloCereda Mary Poppins? Yay, all I need to do is give glossaries a spoonful of sugar!
 
@NicolaTalbot oooh that one! :)
\usepackage{supercalifragilisticexpialidocious}
I can't resist. :)
 
12:49 PM
@PauloCereda stop searching youtube: arara qn on site for you:-)
 
@PauloCereda :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Oh no! Why did I write a tool?
 
@PauloCereda Ooh, how often have I thought that! :-)
 
@MarcoDaniel Would you like to answer it? Sadly, there's no way of achieving that. :(
@NicolaTalbot :)
 
kan
12:51 PM
@MarcoDaniel Time for arara init file (or .arara?)??
@PauloCereda Just yet... :)
 
ach
is lockstep a bot ?
 
@PauloCereda I am thinking about the following comment:
From my point of you it isn't possible. I can't see any advantages for this. If you get a new file and you want to run pdflatex as default than run pdflatex instead of arara
 
ach
I don't think I have found a single biblatex question that wasn't already edited by @lockstep
 
@ach You can ask one and make immediately a screenshot. Than you have one ;-)
 
ach
@MarcoDaniel it's the only way !
 
12:54 PM
@kan Not for this one, I'm afraid. :) Directives are the heart of arara and they are exactly the keypoint that differs it from other tools. If I provide a default fallback, people will then ask for arara to guess the steps. And then we will have yet another latexmk implementation. :)
 
@MarcoDaniel I suspect the problem is that they've switched the default tex engine in some ide to arara from pdflatex so want arara to be able to handle all input
@PauloCereda default to running latexmk:-)
 
@MarcoDaniel I don't see any advantages either.
@DavidCarlisle LOL epic solution.
 
ach
does latexmk make coffee as well ?
 
@ach no, only tea
 
@ach It requires the most recent Perl distro, I'm afraid. :)
 
12:56 PM
I'm looking at the stage of Giro d'Italia; at the arrival, 2300m, it snowed for the whole morning. It's one of the most beautiful place in the Dolomites: Tre Cime di Lavaredo. Now they're in Pustertal, another magnificent valley.
 
@egreg oooh how nice! :)
 
ach
latexmk --tea-white
hmm, no tea
 
@PauloCereda Another approach: You can provide a "main-mwe.tex" with the following contents:
% arara: pdflatex
\input{file-of-friend}
 
@MarcoDaniel Yep.
 
ach
I have a problem, it's too much fun fiddling with TeX and LaTeX for my layout, I don't get much thesis writing done :/
 
1:05 PM
Okay, I've answered it. I hope I don't sound too tetchy, but I've injured my foot, so I'm not in the jolliest frame of mind :-(
@ach Yes, that can happen! :-)
!!/fortune
 
@NicolaTalbot Psmith, the TeX bot: Here is your fortune: Watch out for low flying ducks.
 
@PauloCereda :-)
 
@NicolaTalbot Oh no! Is everything ok?
 
@dıʞsdoʇ hi there got a little time?
 
@Rico Hi Rico, yes
 
1:09 PM
@PauloCereda Yes, I was just really stupid, that's all! I was curled up on the armchair reading and my foot went dead, but I didn't realise it until I stood up and it collapsed under me with a loud crack, which was rather alarming. Luckily nothing's broken, it was just the tendon cracking, but it's swollen and bruised. Apparently it will take 6 weeks to fix.
 
@dıʞsdoʇ nice, wanna open up a new chatroom maybe something like Project - German Community blog?
 
@PauloCereda Are you feeling better now?
 

 German Community TeX blog

Creating a TeX community blog in German texwelt.de
 
@NicolaTalbot Oh my. :(
@NicolaTalbot A lil better, but still voiceless. :)
@dıʞsdoʇ Can I write about ducks in German?
 
@PauloCereda as long as they are made out of latex, yes
 
1:16 PM
@dıʞsdoʇ But they are tasty! :)
 
@PauloCereda you could write an article describing how to write a cookbook and use ducks as an example recipe
 
@PauloCereda like this?
 
@dıʞsdoʇ WTF
 
@dıʞsdoʇ dufuq
 
@PauloCereda What? The ones made out of latex?
 
1:18 PM
@NicolaTalbot The other type. :)
 
@PauloCereda Get well soon!
@PauloCereda :-)
 
@NicolaTalbot Thanks, you too. :)
 
ach
is there a more robust space than \space ?
 
@PauloCereda Thanks :-)
 
@ach In what sense, more robust?
 
ach
1:19 PM
well
I am trying to specify the range separator for unit ranges in siunitx to be {\space--\space}, which works well if I hand it to the specific command, but the spaces get munched
if I hand it as a package option
@egreg I figured the fault lay in the way I was trying to put in the spaces
 
@ach Maybe { -- }, can you show an example?
 
ach
I'll try it !
 
Giro d'Italia update: now they're doing the road from Toblach to Cortina, one of my favorite tours.
 
ach
@egreg, { -- } does not work, sadly. Example would be \SIrange[range-phrase={\space--\space}]{505}{685}{\metre} works
but in \usepackage[range-phrase={\space--\space}]{siunitx produces an en-dash with no spaces
 
@ach Spaces are mangled when in the optional argument to \usepackage. You can do \usepackage[range-phrase={\ --\ }]{siunitx} but probably the best is to say \sisetup{range-phrase={ -- } after \usepackage{siunitx}
 
ach
1:29 PM
@egreg is that true for any space in any \usepackage ?
 
@ach Yes.
 
ach
@egreg you learn something new everyday :)
 
1:44 PM
hola a todos
 
1:57 PM
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Q: How to set language in Biber (1.6)?

Martin BetzI am using biber to manage my bibliography. I am using MikTeX with all updates installed. After updating to 1.6 however, my language settings don't work. Despite setting German as prime language, the bibliography gets outputed in English. What changed? Or what did I do wrong. Here is the MWE: %...

I do have an extra question which i don't want to put in comments again.
Once I downloaded the dev zip, how would I install it in MikTeX?
Once I know that, I think I can solve the problem myself.
 
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Q: How can I manually install a package on MiKTeX (Windows)

mbmcavoyI'm new to LaTeX, investigating using it for some work projects. I'm using MiKTeX on Windows. My employer's locked-down network blocks the application's automatic installation function. I can take my laptop home and successfully install from there, but if I need a package in the middle of the ...

 
Nice, that should help!
 
2:14 PM
@JosephWright: What do you think? Is this question TL: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/115886/…
 
@MarcoDaniel I don't think it's TL it is just unanswerable probably we should give the OP some time to fix it.,
 
@DavidCarlisle Thanks.
 
@MarcoDaniel Yes, I'd say David is right
 
2:59 PM
A real snow storm at Giro's arrival.
 
yay May
 
Just for information: the winner made the last kilometer in 4 minutes and 30 seconds. Under the snow.
 
3:18 PM
at a whopping 13km/h
aka "leisurely pace"
 
@badp Try that kilometer. ;-)
 
just providing a comparison figure
if he won then he likely did better than five-hundred odd other people behind him
no need to add myself to the counter
 
@egreg just hop off the bike and walk :P
 
 
2 hours later…
5:47 PM
The ultimate procrastination technique: clean home office, move four boxes of papers to work office, go on sabbatical.
 
@AlanMunn Nice :-)
 
@NicolaTalbot January is long way away. :)
 
@AlanMunn :-) What are you doing for your sabbatical?
 
I'll be around here until August because I'm running a small conference in July, but I'll be at the U. Pennsylvania for the Fall.
 
@AlanMunn Hope you have a good time there :-)
 
5:59 PM
The main plan is to hang out with interesting people, get some new stuff written (and hopefully finish some old stuff) and get a grant proposal written. As usual, I'll be happy if I get some reasonable percentage of those things done.
Philadelphia is a great city, and it's also close enough to other major East Coast places like NY and DC.
 
@AlanMunn Good luck with it. Especially with the grant proposal, they're no fun to write.
@AlanMunn The only US city I've been to is Detroit.
 
@NicolaTalbot Hmm. That's in my neck of the woods, although I never really go there. What brought you to Detroit?
 
@AlanMunn The 36th Mid-West Symposium on Circuits and Systems. My first conference paper! 1993 I think.
 
@NicolaTalbot I was in North Carolina then. I imagine that Detroit was pretty miserable at that time, although perhaps you just saw the inside of a hotel.
 
@AlanMunn I did spend most of the time in the hotel, but I ventured out on the Sunday to find a church and the streets looked surprisingly deserted. It wasn't at all how I imagined a US city would look like. I also crossed the border into Canada for an afternoon.
 
6:14 PM
@NicolaTalbot Yes, Detroit of all places was pretty much a wasteland in the downtown area. Most of the affluent (and generally white) people fled to the suburbs and downtown became a ghostland. It's actually a big problem now, because the city is basically bankrupt since the tax base has declined so much over the past 50 years. See e.g. drawingdetroit.wordpress.com/2012/07/02/…
 
6:30 PM
@AlanMunn It certainly felt like a ghostland, but it was weird having a big fancy hotel in the middle of it.
 
6:43 PM
So is this game likely to be worth watching?
 
ach
I am going to go out on a limb here
and say the Germans will win
 
@ach :-)
@ach Like Gary Lineker said
 
ach
@JosephWright indeed
 
@ach :) Do you have a preferred side?
 
ach
@AlanMunn honestly, I am not into league football, I watch and follow my national teams somewhat, but the clubs...
I suppose I would pick Borussia because I like Juergen Klopp
but that's a pretty weak preference
 
7:01 PM
I am for Dortmund because my account's picture is black & yellow :)
(I used to work, study & live there for a few years)
 
@dıʞsdoʇ Was ist los mit Dortmund?
 
ach
7:14 PM
Is there a commonly accepted / used way to print / output the packages (and versions) used to typeset a document ? I am writing my thesis and if anyone later wants to re-typeset it, it may not work if packages used have changed in the meantime.
To me, it sounds tricky to automoate (as I am not aware of version metadata being in the same place for all packages), but there are lots of things I don't know about TeX so I thought I'd ask
 
@ach If you put \listfiles in the preamble you get a list of loaded files in the log
 
@ach You can save everything with your sources, but to do it properly also need the binaries
Barbara Beeton is the expert: the AMS do this
 
ach
I wonder where the author of dateiliste might be from !
 
@ach :-)
 
ach
7:18 PM
@JosephWright you mean the tex binaries, the format files, etc. ?
 
@ach Yes
@ach It depends how careful you are being
 
ach
I think the Bodleian will have to deal with not having the binaries
 
@ach Surely you just need the PDF version
 
ach
they want sources
 
@ach Really?
 
ach
7:20 PM
yes
 
@ach What do they do if you typewrite it?
At least where I am that is perfectly acceptable as formal submission is hard copy
 
ach
@JosephWright I don't think they expect people to game the system
just to spite them
 
@ach I'd tell them to jump in the river
@ach You have copyright, after all
@ach Anyway, if they want 'sources' I suspect they mean only your ones, not everything else
 
ach
yeah I am sure
 
@ach Tricky for things like figures (at least would be for me: lots of files)
 
ach
7:22 PM
I guess when the thesis is getting closer to being submitted I will write and ask what they actually want
@JosephWright it's a question of purpose to me
@JosephWright I don't necessarily trust them to be able to compile the document if I just give them the sources
 
@ach I'd imagine 'sources' might mean PDF, i.e. the direct 'source' of printed material
 
ach
I will have to ask
but I doubt it
since they specify that they would want .doc for word processed documents
@JosephWright which is amusing
considering the format zoo there
 
@ach PDF is an ISO standard (at least a subset is)
 
Anyone know if I can grab a part of a sourcecode file with \lstinputlisting using a source-code marker rather than line numbers? Basically, once I've hard coded all of the line numbers into the .tex files, changing any of the source files silently breaks the .tex. I'm looking for a way around that.
 
8:08 PM
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Q: What relevance will LaTeX have in the future as we move away from typeset PDFs?

johntait.orgWhat relevance will LaTeX have in the future, now that the web, social media, mobile devices and apps are moving content away from typeset PDF documents?

Probably too discursive, but also misses the fact that typesetting is still important
 
@JosephWright indeed
 
Robben plays for Dortmund
 
@JosephWright I was wondering about responding along those lines but saw it was picking up close votes.
 
8:28 PM
for gods sake i hate webservers -.-
 
can't watch the last minutes ...
 
@dıʞsdoʇ whos your favorite?
 
@Rico black yellow
 
@dıʞsdoʇ I used to like them,too to bad its not looking good for them
 
The referee was bribed, for sure ;-)
 
8:36 PM
:)
 
@dıʞsdoʇ Yes for Dortmund ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel What about Dante's attacks? :)
 
@dıʞsdoʇ Yes but Lewandowski ;-)
However it was a power game
 
Bayern would have won 2:0 without BvB getting this Elfmeter /duck and cover
 
@Rico I don't believe it. Dortmund played well and Lewandoski is a great goal getter ;-)
 
8:49 PM
@dıʞsdoʇ Have you really something to say about the referee?
 
@egreg He is from Italy ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel you mean he know how to fall? :D
 
Nice game, but I was expecting Dortmund. :)
Oh my, I saw Angela Merkel. Spooky.
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@PauloCereda Don't complain. We have to see her much more often!
I guess this is for you, @StephanLehmke
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Q: Revisiting Stephan Lehmke's parcolsx

theobearI've been using Stephan Lehmke's very useful parallel text solution outlined here: http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/63997/26651 The problem I'm having is that the parallel columns doesn't fill the whole text width of my document... see minimal example below. \documentclass[10pt, article, showtrim...

 
@dıʞsdoʇ LOL
 
9:00 PM
Sorry, that was an accident
 
9:18 PM
@dıʞsdoʇ LOL
@StefanKottwitz Hi, Stefan! Some days ago I sent you a message to TeXample.net but I am not sure if you received it.
 
9:49 PM
@dıʞsdoʇ Misattribution, I'm afraid :-)
 
10:04 PM
@GonzaloMedina Oh, thanks, I'm not sure, did not perfectly keep up with my mails, job and family ... do you mean the time line, or a newer one?
 
10:36 PM
!!/battle
Where's Psmith when you need him? ;-)
Probably partying for Bayern win.
 
10:49 PM
I think we need a Masochist badge for users who persist on trying to help people who ask abysmal questions.
 
@StefanKottwitz Yes, the time line; did you get it? By the way, I have a newer one, but I didn't want to send it until I was sure you had received the one for the time-line. Now I'm not sure of I will send it, since I don't want to give you extra job ;-)
@AlanMunn hehe! What kind of question do you consider to be abysmal?
 
@GonzaloMedina Well at the moment there is one particular user who is asking a lot of linguistics/gb4e questions...
 
@AlanMunn I see now.
 
@GonzaloMedina And our gentle education campaign seems to be having little effect.
 
11:04 PM
@AlanMunn Agreed. The campaign has only a very reduced effect, if any. The only effect I see is that as time goes by, we ask for MWEs, clarifications, etc. in a more polite manner ;-)
 
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@NicolaTalbot: I tried to create a magician for you, not sure if our lioness looks good. :(
@egreg oh wait. :)
!!/battle
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 260 vs. 230 David. So far, egreg is winning.
 
@PauloCereda 260 vs. 230? Amateurs! ;-)
 
@GonzaloMedina I'm afraid to ask your profile. :)
 
@GonzaloMedina Indeed. We're training ourselves.
 
I could implement a league, where everybody battles against everybody!
 
11:08 PM
!!/reputation 3954
 
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: User: Gonzalo Medina :: Reputation: 131,032
 
!!/reputation 4427
 
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: User: egreg :: Reputation: 187,352
 
That's 70 daily rep more on the average. :P
 
@egreg That's the perfect way to give back the "Amateur" label to me ;-)
 
11:11 PM
@lockstep update: 170 to go
!!/reputation 4427,3954
 
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: Invalid ID.
 
Darn, it doesn't accept multiple IDs.
 
@egreg You're gonna be alone for quite a long time in the 200K league!
 
So Neymar was sold to Barcelona?
 
@GonzaloMedina Mid July to … :)
 

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