TeX, LaTeX and Friends

Joseph Wright

6:24 AM

latex-project.org

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wilx

7:49 AM

Hi there.

Joseph Wright

8:00 AM

@wilx Hello

@DavidCarlisle I guess now the website is live we should update some of the content

David Carlisle

8:17 AM

@JosephWright yep, if only to check the git push works:-)

JBFWP286

Hi all! I have to say you're such a helpful and funny community! I didn't even know there were LaTeX packages like this one! Thank you all so much! =D

egreg

9:05 AM

@JBFWP286 Ducks are are favorite playthings. Including the (perhaps) human duck @PauloCereda who's now surely writing his thesis.

Paulo Cereda

10:21 AM

@egreg ooh thesis. :)

barbara beeton

@JosephWright -- the new site looks really nice. (will have to wait until i get home to see if all my existing links to latex-bugs still work ...) congrats.

@PauloCereda -- you are working on it, no?

Paulo Cereda

@barbarabeeton yes. :)

Maïeul

1:27 PM

@Davi

@DavidCarlisle : I have just send you a mail with a MWE for the \newinsert problem

David Carlisle

@Maïeul yes got it thanks, will look later

Maïeul

your'e welcome

and thank for looking on it

David Carlisle

2:00 PM

@Maïeul will do a full test later but try sticking this anywhere before the set of allocations that go wrong

\makeatletter

\def\newinsert#1{%
\@tempswafalse
\global\advance\insc@unt\m@ne
\ifnum\count10<\insc@unt
\ifnum\count11<\insc@unt
\ifnum\count12<\insc@unt
\ifnum\count14<\insc@unt
  \@tempswatrue
\fi\fi\fi\fi
\if@tempswa
%\typeout{A====}%
%\global\advance\insc@unt\m@ne
\allocationnumber\insc@unt
\else
\global\advance\insc@unt\@ne
%\typeout{B====}%
  \extrafloats\@ne
  \@next\@currbox\@freelist
    {\ifnum\@currbox<\e@insert@top
      \allocationnumber\@currbox
     \else
     \ch@ck0\m@ne\insert

David Carlisle

2:11 PM

3

Just hoping I don't get any accepts (or at least not an odd number of them) and can coast to get 330 in units of 10....:-)

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle bah no palindromes. :)

Alan Munn

2:42 PM

@DavidCarlisle I'm sure @egreg will find a reason to downvote you and thwart your plans.

Paulo Cereda

Apr 24 '13 at 22:33, by egreg

I'm very proud to proclaim that David P. Carlisle, TeX guru of well deserved fame, has been admitted in the 100K club of TeX.sx. This is a great achievement for David and the whole community.

@AlanMunn ^^ remembering the times. :)

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda It's sad to see how much things have deteriorated since then. :)

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn LOL

David Carlisle

3:04 PM

@PauloCereda ^^^ oh look: a palindrome

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh

Paulo Cereda

7:12 PM

.

@JosephWright: the British Library sent my purchased copy. :)

Paulo Cereda

7:44 PM

..

Joseph Wright

...

?

Paulo Cereda

ooh :)

JBFWP286

@egreg Hahahaha! That's for sure! xD

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 Quack! :)

JBFWP286

8:01 PM

@PauloCereda Hahahahaha!!!! xD I saw some of your work here, like the one with flowers and ducks "for the thesis" xDDDDDD

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 ooh that was an interesting setup for theses. :)

JBFWP286

Hahahahaha xDDDD Amazing!

In fact I was afraid of using this stuff first, but now I can't leave it alone xDDDD

Paulo Cereda

Welcome to the club! :)

We are a bunch of wacky people here.

JBFWP286

Thanks, and I hope this will be a "good addiction" xDDDD

Paulo Cereda

It depends, actually. Do you have a thesis to write? :)

@DavidCarlisle ^^

JBFWP286

8:08 PM

@PauloCereda I want to write it there, and I'm preparing for it =P Keeping track of bibliography is awesome in there, and now TikZ is useful for that mandatory designing xDD

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 Cool. :) What do you study?

JBFWP286

Computer Science :) I guess LaTeX is useful for that (especially minted) xD

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 TeX and friends are useful for virtually everything, even cricket. :)

JBFWP286

Hahahaha!!! xD Yeah, if only LaTeX could add sound to PDFs xDDDDD

Are you in that field, too?

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 Yes, I am a CS bloke working with theory.

JBFWP286

8:12 PM

:O XD I knew it! XDDDDD I had that feeling xDDDD

Are you studying algorithms?

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda @JBFWP286 This why many of us call him a theoretical computer scientist.

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 Complexity and some oddities. :)

@AlanMunn <3

JBFWP286

@PauloCereda Ooooohhhhh! That's nice! I like that field!

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda And all the ambiguity that phrase entails... :)

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286: Alan is our resident linguist. He has super powers. :)

JBFWP286

8:15 PM

@AlanMunn But in my country it's strange... CS is divided into many majors xDDDD

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn I see what you did there. :)

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda <3

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn <3

(Wait for @DavidCarlisle to appear out of nowhere and spoil the fun)

JBFWP286

@PauloCereda @AlanMunn xDDDDD Good to see something else than CS!

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 Where are you from?

David Carlisle

8:16 PM

@PauloCereda 'ello

JBFWP286

@PauloCereda Top Secret

XDDDD

@DavidCarlisle They called you, I didn't xDDDDD

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle 'ello! :)

@JBFWP286 David is part of the LaTeX project. Half of the LaTeX kernel is his. :)

And of course, his packages have no bugs.

JBFWP286

@PauloCereda Yeah, I even used a package or two from him xDDDD

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda including \newinsert

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh

JBFWP286

8:18 PM

Or undocumented features xDDDDDDDD

tabularx xDDDD

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle: ^^ this bloke is learning

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda ask @Maïeul about that....

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle :)

JBFWP286

Hahahaha xDDDD

@DavidCarlisle @PauloCereda told me that you spoil the fun XD Is that true? XDDDD

David Carlisle

@JBFWP286 would you trust a duck carrying a cricket bat to tell the truth?

JBFWP286

8:19 PM

XDDDDDD

You guys are awesome XDDDDD

Alan Munn

@JBFWP286 @DavidCarlisle makes the fun. There's so much fun to be had in undocumented features.

JBFWP286

@AlanMunn Yeah, especially when you need them xD

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 wanna hear a duck joke?

egreg

@JBFWP286 Another Bielefelder?

Paulo Cereda

@egreg He was in that car!

JBFWP286

8:24 PM

@egreg Let's see what happens XDDD

egreg

@PauloCereda Maybe!

JBFWP286

@PauloCereda I'm not good at that, let's see xDDD

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 What does the quantum duck say?

JBFWP286

@PauloCereda Rats... I don't know! :(

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda Quark?

Paulo Cereda

8:25 PM

@AlanMunn oooh that's correct. :)

David Carlisle

May 19 at 12:20, by egreg

@PauloCereda Quark!

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle oh no!

/quacks in despair in leaves

JBFWP286

XDDDDDDD

But that's the same! XDDDDDD

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 It's a quantum phenomenon. :)

JBFWP286

Yeah, to look for the ? and not for the ! xDDD

Paulo Cereda

8:27 PM

Ducks are very good at quantum physics.

JBFWP286

Yeah, noted xD

David Carlisle

Jan 12 at 12:15, by David Carlisle

@PauloCereda finished your thesis?

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Oh no!

JBFWP286

XDDDDD

Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle See above. It's theoretical computer science. :)

JBFWP286

8:28 PM

Isn't this time of the year supposed to be holidays? xDDDDD

Alan Munn

@JBFWP286 No rest for the wicked.

JBFWP286

Poor @PauloCereda :( That's not fair.

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 For a starving student? I don't know what a holiday means.

JBFWP286

@PauloCereda Welcome to the club, I guess :(

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 ;)

David Carlisle

8:30 PM

@JBFWP286 it's summer holiday time for some of us but @PauloCereda is wrong side of the equator so he has to work on his thesis

JBFWP286

@DavidCarlisle It could only be Australia or South America (and part of Africa)

David Carlisle

@JBFWP286 cricket should give you a clue...

JBFWP286

@PauloCereda But a duck needs to rest, at least! xD

Alan Munn

Can I get an upvote on this so that I can link to it as a duplicate? tex.stackexchange.com/q/226184/2693

JBFWP286

@DavidCarlisle But isn't that top secret? xD

@AlanMunn Where? On your answer? I guess I won't be able to do so :(

@AlanMunn I mean, to vote for duplicate

David Carlisle

8:32 PM

@AlanMunn obviously I'm a good judge of the accuracy of a mac texshop answer, never having used either, so I voted

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn Certainly. :)

Alan Munn

@JBFWP286 Thanks. I just needed a vote on my answer.

JBFWP286

@AlanMunn Aaaaahhhh xDDD Then I'm going to xDDDD

@AlanMunn You're lucky you got a Mac! (Well, that's what I think) xD

Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle That's the spirit of cooperative knowledge we appreciate around here.

JBFWP286

That's the different thing here from other sites of the network. That's what is TeX.sx different for :)

Alan Munn

8:36 PM

@JBFWP286 I have a few. And yes, some of us here think they are great. Others are die hard Linux people and there are even a few Windoze users around. Some are apparently quite skilled in fact.

JBFWP286

@AlanMunn I have Linux, but I don't think Mac is bad. It's just... overpriced for my struggling economy :(

Alan Munn

@JBFWP286 A fair point. The initial cost is certainly higher. But in my experience you can hang on to a Mac a lot longer.

JBFWP286

@AlanMunn Yes, the interface is well conceived! Let's then wait till I'm rich XDDD

Paulo Cereda

8:49 PM

@JBFWP286 Apple products are really overpriced in Brazil as well.

JBFWP286

@PauloCereda :( Now I don't feel well. I thought the country was top secret xDDDD

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 Oh no, another Brazilian?

JBFWP286

Not really. You should visit Mexico xD

egreg

@JBFWP286 Which certainly is an interesting country to visit!

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 Oh cool. :) I have a friend who lives in León. :)

JBFWP286

8:53 PM

@egreg Thanks! Yeah it's nice, we have a lot of history that we don't read at all xDDDD

@PauloCereda Oooohhh xD Every place here is interesting ;)

@PauloCereda I also heard about Brazil. Some guys here say the people is charming there :)

egreg

@JBFWP286 The town where I live is about 2500 years old, maybe more. ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 ^^

JBFWP286

@PauloCereda They say, I don't know xDDDDD

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 It's a lie, probably. :)

JBFWP286

@PauloCereda That's why I'm telling you xDDDD

It's like how others see us: in the 1910s, like this...

And that's not true xDDDDD

Alan Munn

8:57 PM

@JBFWP286 I've only been to Mexico City and Teotihuacan. I really liked it there.

David Carlisle

@egreg some of its inhabitants are a similar age

JBFWP286

@AlanMunn If you liked that, you should go to other places here as well! :)

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Of course I remember when we were building it.

JBFWP286

@egreg @DavidCarlisle xDDDDDDDD

egreg

@JBFWP286 You see? He's always mean to me.

JBFWP286

8:59 PM

@egreg I don't think so. Here we have a presenter of child programs, and I can tell that's only a bit of what we say about him xDDDD

David Carlisle

@egreg you reap what you sow

Paulo Cereda

Soy un pato.

JBFWP286

Muy bien xDDDD

Paulo Cereda

Voy hacer un dibujo de patos.

Los patos son más grandes que las ranas.

JBFWP286

@PauloCereda Good one! Don't tell me you know Spanish! xDDDD

Paulo Cereda

9:01 PM

ooh advanced Spanish. :)

@JBFWP286 I have absolutely no idea. :) I only know a couple of things by accident. :)

JBFWP286

Yay! xD (I just hope you're not using a translator)

xDDDDDDD

Paulo Cereda

@JBFWP286 No, that would be @DavidCarlisle. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda Qué has dicho "foto" que es mi especialidad

JBFWP286

.-. Just understood the first part @DavidCarlisle xD

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Holy guacamole!

Alan Munn

9:02 PM

@PauloCereda This is I'm sure quite untrue.

JBFWP286

XDDDDDDD

I'll be right back! ;)

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn Don't you Buenos Aires me. :)

David Carlisle

@JBFWP286 Tengo una fuente perfecta para la traducción al español, no puede haber ningún error

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh that one was very good.

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda claro

Alan Munn

9:06 PM

@PauloCereda I know better than to tango with a duck.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn ooh :)

@Alan: My Portuñol is pretty good. :)

Hi @JimHefferon!

Jim Hefferon

@PauloCereda Hi!

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda Exato!

Joseph Wright

Ooh, all the randomly-coloured squares

David Carlisle

@JosephWright and ducks

Joseph Wright

9:12 PM

@DavidCarlisle Well yes, plus some beardy guy and an eye-thing

David Carlisle

@JosephWright guess i'd better put together a PL 3 :(

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Yup

@DavidCarlisle Allocation routines are tricky (though they get a lot easier if you don't have to support all of the current plain/2e assumptions)

David Carlisle

@JosephWright helps if you can tell the difference between < and <= as well.

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle :-)

Alan Munn

9:30 PM

@norbert Hi I've really been enjoying your TUG conference posts. The talk descriptions are really informative. I hope you're enjoying Toronto (my hometown).

barbara beeton

@AlanMunn -- i'm sure that norbert has been. (so have we.) toronto is really large -- in all directions. but it has a charming little "in-city" airport and connecting ferry. now, off to the banquet/harbor cruise.

Alan Munn

9:45 PM

@barbarabeeton Yes, I've flown into that airport a few times. Have a nice dinner!

egreg

@barbarabeeton And remember to remove your comment to my answer! Have a good night!

norbert

@AlanMunn thanks, I realized the reports are written in a hurry and full of stupid errors, need to read in peace later. I'm enjoying Toronto a lot, but don't have enough time for sightseeing due to Pavneet's Gulag work program ;-)

Alan Munn

@norbert :) Well even with the hurry I find them really enjoyable. And I can see the schedule does seem a bit grueling.

@JosephWright Currently in a continuous battle with Word. I used to think that using Styles makes things easier, but they don't really work as they should. Grumble, grumble. *#$%ing Word.

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