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12:44 AM
@egreg ... when it was safe to do so?
 
@DavidCarlisle You could have waited after 12:00 UTC. :P
 
@egreg far too late at night to be doing anything reckless like voting for you
 
 
4 hours later…
kan
4:38 AM
Hello everyone!
 
5:06 AM
@kan Hi Kan, I think everyone's asleep... :)
 
kan
@AlanMunn Sounds very much like it. Shouldn't we be sleeping too? :)
How are you? Long time since I hung out here!
 
:27610297 I probably should be, but I'm still working.
I'm fine. How are you? Yes, I haven't seen you here in quite a while.
 
kan
@AlanMunn I am working too! I am doing fine, what with all the usual grad school stuff you know... :)
 
@kan Good to hear. Are you already working on your thesis/dissertation?
 
kan
@AlanMunn No. Far from it. I am learning algebraic geometry these days. It keeps me fairly busy.
 
5:11 AM
@kan When will you be finished with courses?
 
kan
@AlanMunn Actually, I am going to change schools for next school year. So it is going to depend hugely on where I end up! :-)
 
@kan I see. So you're waiting for acceptances right now I guess.
 
kan
@AlanMunn Yes, I am waiting to hear from Chicago. I have UMich and UCLA already. But I'd love to go to Chicago.
(I am on a waiting list for UChicago, actually. Fingers crossed.)
 
@kan Nice. I taught a course at Chicago in 2014. It's a great place, and Chicago is a nice city to live in. And Michigan is just down the road from me (our arch rival...)
 
kan
@AlanMunn Thank you! I am very excited, let's see!
 
 
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7:41 AM
Names of the TUG reps have been sent: yay!
 
8:32 AM
The Britons/Americans should remove this stupid comma as separator :-)
 
8:43 AM
@ChristianHupfer And replace it with a dot? Just as sensible. :)
 
@AlanMunn No, I did not suggest to replace it with a dot. Just omit any of those separators
 
@ChristianHupfer you might be very interested in the statement that this site makes: clickandtry.de/2015/11/24/dokumentklassen
 
@Johannes_B Die Standardklassen von LaTeX sind "veraltet" ... wow!
 
@Johannes_B Big surprise: I don't agree at all. I rather suggest to drop the KOMA classes ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer golatex.de/viewtopic,p,80705.html#80705 My two centson that page.
@AlanMunn You are speaking/reading german?
 
8:49 AM
@Johannes_B Probably not at this instant
 
@Johannes_B Ein bischen.
@JosephWright :D
 
@AlanMunn That reminds me of my former girlfriend. "Ich spreche ein bisschen deutsch" :-)
 
@Johannes_B Enough to be dangerous.
 
@AlanMunn Oh
:-)
 
@AlanMunn You speak better German than many Germans, I suppose ;-)
 
8:52 AM
@ChristianHupfer I'm certain that's not true. :)
 
@JosephWright Another new page that introduces LaTeX to newcommers.
 
@Johannes_B Yes, luring them to the real dark side: KOMA ;-) Oh my
 
@ChristianHupfer I don't agree at all with that view of that site. Standard classes are not obsolete and you should not, by all means, use KOMA-script.
 
@Johannes_B KOMA might have been nice in its beginning but since it has become completely non-comprehensive if the user is not involved in its development. The 'manual' is in its printed form only good for slaying flies ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer The printed manual is nice.
@ChristianHupfer I have to say, i am lost as well.
 
9:00 AM
Well, I agree that there should be updates to the original standard classes, to incorporate some of the most requested features, i.e. hooks to the structuring commands, such as memoir provides. Or \section*[]{...} allowing a ToC entry if needed for starred structuring commands
I am procrastinating a little bit -- I should prepare for a job interview this afternoon actually :D
 
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Q: My PDF prevents my audience from using their mice

thbPDFTeX typesets my document in two columns. Unfortunately, when my reader opens the PDF, it does not let my reader's mouse pick up text from one column, but rather interleaves text from left and right, which makes no sense. To illustrate: Here is some text Here is some text in the left col...

/gets a newspaper, rolls it up and hits PDF on the head: bad PDF, bad PDF!
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<3
 
@PauloCereda Give in to your anger :-P
 
@ChristianHupfer No, stability means this cannot happen
 
@ChristianHupfer Quack! <3
 
@JosephWright Ok, how about xarticle.cls etc. then? ;-) article 2.0 or article -- the next generation? ;-)
@PauloCereda: I am designing the thehungarianphrasebook.cls -- especially for you ;-)
 
9:07 AM
@ChristianHupfer ooh
 
@PauloCereda Hint: It's full of \ells ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer Britons don't need to remove the comma as they sensibly put it in the middle, with three digits either side.
 
@DavidCarlisle There's a slight (tiny!!!) asymmetry however if there are only 4 or 5 digits at all :-(
 
@ChristianHupfer well fix the 5 digit problem, steal some ticks off egreg
 
@DavidCarlisle No, I want to stand upright and not become villaineous like @egreg ;-)
 
9:10 AM
@ChristianHupfer LOL
 
@DavidCarlisle: I meant villainous ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer he's probably both.
 
Is this on-topic?
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Q: How to solve the error: No counter 'sectionpage' defined

dahvedI'm trying to use this answer from a previous question to get frame numbers in a table of content in a beamer presentation made in RStudio with R Markdown and knitr (see file below; in in_header.tex the code from the answer I've linked to is inserted, can also be seen here). --- output: beame...

 
yo'
Tell me, is the title a mistake or a pun? :)
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Q: My PDF prevents my audience from using their mice

thbPDFTeX typesets my document in two columns. Unfortunately, when my reader opens the PDF, it does not let my reader's mouse pick up text from one column, but rather interleaves text from left and right, which makes no sense. To illustrate: Here is some text Here is some text in the left col...

@ChristianHupfer seems like a bug in pandoc...
 
9:27 AM
@DavidCarlisle: I have to load fixltx2e in a class for users with older latex but sadly this gives a quite verbose warning on newer system. Would it be possible to add some "warning level code" in such cases so that classes can suppress the output temporarly?
 
@yo' When Tom & Jerry meets typography... :)
 
Concerning the spaces I used that in case of very short contents to see what looks best. Not really a core feature. — MaK 1 min ago
What?
 
9:48 AM
@yo' Hm, I know nothing about pandoc...
 
yo'
@PauloCereda :)
@ChristianHupfer neither do I, but it's supposed to produce a valid TeX file, which it obviously does not.
 
@UlrikeFischer you could use latexrelease (copied from a newer latex?) or couldn't you use the silence package to shut it up?
 
@yo' Well, anyway, I don't think that question is on-topic then. There's nothing we can do to fix a pandoc bug
 
yo'
@ChristianHupfer the point is, I'm not sure. I'll comment, we can see where this is leading... :)
 
@JosephWright TU, must be for Will:-) ﹘ (U+FE58 small emm dash)?
 
9:55 AM
@DavidCarlisle Could be
 
@DavidCarlisle On my system only CJK fonts have U+FE58
 
@egreg So not that then
@wipet This one I think is for you: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/294008/…
 
@JosephWright I looked in Old Standard, that's very good for Cyrillic support, but it only features the glyphs endash, emdash and figuredash (with no variants, as far as I can see)
 
@egreg So probably this other dash is actually a rule
 
@JosephWright looking at the mappings for legacy encodings here that's conclusion I came to encoding.spec.whatwg.org/index-koi8-u.txt
 
10:05 AM
@JosephWright This is the realization in Arial Unicode MS
 
@egreg I always knew @egreg was a secret Windows user.
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@JosephWright This is the information at unicode.org/charts/PDF/UFE50.pdf
@JosephWright In the description, all the “small” glyphs are in a higher position like superscripts.
Except FE58 that seems quite low.
 
@egreg Yes, but it's not really clear that these have any relation to the 'short' Cyrillic things
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, that's my preferred font, didn't you know?
 
@DavidCarlisle I don't think that latexrelease would be good idea. Silence naturally works \IfFileExists{silence} {\RequirePackage{silence}\WarningsOff[fixltx2e]}{} but I'm not sure that I like the parsing overload. (I personally don't care about such warnings, but as some editors show them in orange some users are quite fuzzy about them.)
 
10:36 AM
@UlrikeFischer personally I'd go with \let\PackageWarningNoLine\PackageInfo and just push it to the log.
 
10:53 AM
@UlrikeFischer "I don't think that latexrelease would be good idea." why not? on an older format latexrelease acts more or less the same as fixltx2e (since the code was copied)
 
11:07 AM
@DavidCarlisle because in older systems you get ! LaTeX Error: File latexrelease.sty' not found.` ;-). Also I don't need different code depending on the format. \RequirePackage{fixltx2e} does the right thing: on older systems loads the code, on newer system does nothing. The only problem is the verbosity level on newer systems. Imho it would be useful if there were some \PackageLogging command which depends on some level cnt.
 
@UlrikeFischer That can't work: depending on the set up you won't have the same kernel after loading fixltx2e as you would on the up-to-date system
@UlrikeFischer The entire point of latexrelease is that this one file can be distributed to older systems (say with the document itself) to get 'exactly the same' LaTeX in all cases
 
@UlrikeFischer think yourself lucky, if it was down to F...k every \renewcommand would do a \typeout(** look I defined a new command, the old definition was \meaning\zz new definition is \meaning \qqqq, further details on line 1000000 of the log} (name removed to protect the guilty)
 
@DavidCarlisle :-)
@DavidCarlisle Indeed, there's a long-standing tension between the general meaning of `log' (write down interesting stuff) and the (La)TeX idea of the same (write down everything that might ever be useful to anyone)
 
@JosephWright I'm not speaking about a kernel, it is a simple cls which loads some packages. Naturally I can't garanty a completly identical result if it used with texsystems of different ages but this is not requested.
@JosephWright @DavidCarlisle Yes (KOMA is another example of rather verbose log-files). That's why I was thinking about logging levels, so that users can choose if they want more or less info. Verbosity is fine -- but one should have the chance to say "shut down".
 
@UlrikeFischer Sure, and indeed exactly what I was aiming for with the expl3 message code, but that's a bit different in 2e
 
11:22 AM
@UlrikeFischer You are arguing with the wrong person:-)
@JosephWright as we see with the concise logging in unicode-math for example?
 
@DavidCarlisle 'It's not my fault'
@DavidCarlisle Ditto for me ...
 
12:05 PM
@ChristianHupfer you had that backwards hope you don't mind the edit:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle: No, thanks. In fact I realized that I was wrong and that an empty line would be enough already... Thanks
 
@ChristianHupfer anyway I voted for the edited answer, a small part towards correcting the asymmetry in only having two digits to the left of the ,.
 
@DavidCarlisle That's nice, but I am already rep-capped at this time of day :D
 
@ChristianHupfer ask @egreg about that:-)
@ChristianHupfer i'm only on 30:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle No, no need to
@DavidCarlisle Not any longer ;-) And you should ask more questions :-P
 
12:15 PM
@ChristianHupfer Each month I'm trying to double the number of questions that I ask.
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@DavidCarlisle You're quite successful in that :D
I am off -- I've got a job interview this afternoon, most likely changing/improving my life ;-) Have a nice time
 
@ChristianHupfer good luck with that!
 
1:14 PM
@UlrikeFischer -- "shut down" vs. "shut up".
@ChristianHupfer -- good luck from here too,
 
1:55 PM
@JosephWright @WillRobertson what's the minimum that we need to get on to ctan so that
\RequirePackage{luatex85}
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{fontspec}


\begin{document}


\end{document}
doesn't do this:
! LaTeX Error: Command `\colon' already defined.

See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
Type  H <return>  for immediate help.
 ...

l.6 \begin{document}

?

! LaTeX Error: Command `\Gamma' already defined.

See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
Type  H <return>  for immediate help.
 ...

l.6 \begin{document}

? x
 
2:11 PM
or simpler:
\documentclass{article}
\DeclareMathSymbol{\alpha}{\mathord}{letters}{"0C}

\begin{document}

\stop
 
 
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yo'
4:27 PM
@PauloCereda What smartphone have you got, please? I suppose you've got one...
 
@yo' I have a Sony Xperia Z2.
 
yo'
Oh and you still have your display? :-D Now seriously, do you use FTP and vím and stuff on it? If so, can you recommend something?
 
@yo' In my phone?! No, I cannot handle small devices. :)
I have emacs in my tablet, it's more usable than vim for a virtual keyboard. Also, the hacker's keyboard is an important addition.
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... who would star an "emacs is more usable than vim" comment?
 
@DavidCarlisle Oh no!
 
yo'
4:40 PM
@PauloCereda Oh ok, thanks :-) you know, I'm new to the smartphone world...
 
@yo' My pleasure. :) I think it's very hard to edit stuff in a smartphone, but I seem to be the outcast. :)
 
yo'
I think of getting a good pen for the device to je able to do more
 
@JosephWright tex.stackexchange.com/questions/291853/… Unclear? OT? Without knowing the distribution, hard to suggest a suitable dupe.
 
@PauloCereda -- my husband does it all the time, but his tag line on mail sent from the smartphone is "Sent from my mobile. Apologies for brevity and typos/creative spellchecker." (i have a matching smartphone, but have demonstrated my utter incapability of mastering its use, even for answering phone calls.)
 
4:58 PM
@barbarabeeton ooh I like his tag line! One problem I have is that I couldn't figure out how to switch languages while typing in my smartphone. I am very afraid of writing in English! When in my Mac, I had to disable the spellchecker as it was causing me trouble. :)
 
@Johannes_B I voted as unclear; the OP said to have been able in making it work.
 
5:19 PM
@PauloCereda -- typing? real typing? for me, it's poke and hope. (from a person who has had to wait to be rescued because she couldn't summon an elevator with a static or touch-sensitive call button that didn't have a real microswitch behind it.) as for spell checkers, they create more errors for me than they avoid; fortunately, i can spell pretty well in english, even if my typing doesn't demonstrate that.
 
I often wonder that KB responds to some mails on the TL-list. I can see the reply to @Ulrike's mail, but not her mail. Stupid thunderbird.
 
@barbarabeeton <3
 
@Johannes_B -- interesting. i saw mail from ulrike yesterday, but no response from kb. (at least, not yet.) selective delivery?
 
@barbarabeeton Mon, 15 Feb 2016 22:53:00 +0000The last message on the list (visible to me) is said mail. And it was delivered some time today when i was out. Strange.
 
yo'
5:38 PM
@barbarabeeton I first had to disable all the autocomplete and autocorrect or it was causing disasters. Now, when I use the landscape keyboard, I don't make a lot of mistakes.
 
@Johannes_B -- hmmm. last message i received dated Mon, 15 Feb 2016 17:53:00 -0500 (from kb). oh, that was in response to ulrike, although it doesn't mention her, and the time difference is because of ... the local time difference at destination. the message from ulrike is dated (here) as Mon, 15 Feb 2016 06:13:40 -0500; i just didn't recognize the e-mail address being used.
@yo' -- well, you must have nice small (and accurate) fingers.
 
yo'
Btw, is there any way how to star a comment or reply to it in the mobile version of the chat?
 
@barbarabeeton I can see replies of KB to (i think) @David but not his mails from the end of january concerning color.cfg and graphics.cfg. I don't like that.
 
yo'
@barbarabeeton they're thick from playing the piano, but they're quite precisefor the very same reason
 
@Johannes_B -- have you checked your spam bucket? the last mail from david in january has a brutally long header -- 3+ screens on my workstation monitor, which i have set up to show 60 lines on a screen. it probably would have been held back if i didn't have tex-live whitelisted.
 
6:36 PM
@barbarabeeton I just logged in via browser and you are right. Microsoft SmartScreen has detected the messages as Junk. Not sure what the junk is here. Can anybody get me a link on how i can move my whole stuff to another host?
 
@Johannes_B ooh more like a wise guy screen. :)
 
7:03 PM
@Johannes_B It is indeed... the post and the question, but it found two voters that voted the rubbish up
 
@ChristianHupfer 2000 downloads for MDT within the last 30 days. People like rubbish :-)
 
@Johannes_B Apparently
 
7:50 PM
@Johannes_B: Is this KOMA and classicthesis?
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Q: How can I change the alignment of pagenumbers of TOC using documentclass{scrbook}?

IreneI'm using a template I've found and now I would like to change the Table Of Contents. I'm using the following document class. \documentclass[oneside,11pt,a4paper,footinclude=true,headinclude=true,cleardoublepage=empty]{scrbook} And the following is said about the TOC: \pdfbookmark[1]{\content...

 
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Bad kerning is everywhere.
 
8:07 PM
@ChristianHupfer CT, optional. too lazy to check now
 
yo'
@AlanMunn ouch :( I hate bad keming
 
@Johannes_B well, the font reminded my of rotten classicthesis ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer See comment there.
 
@barbarabeeton ?
 
@Johannes_B Ah -- seen by now.... Your daily mantra: Don't use classicthesis, don't use classicthesis ;-)
 
8:11 PM
@ChristianHupfer s/classicthesis/templates/g
 
@Johannes_B pah.... classicthesis is an allegory for bad templates ;-)
 
@yo' BTW I'll add the Czech Republic to my list of good hockey teams. :)
 
yo'
@AlanMunn cool :)
 
@DavidCarlisle -- a message from you to tex-live that didn't get delivered to johannes; the mail system here (or rather, the spam filter) can be fussy about really long headers, and since such messages had in the past been held up here, i thought it worth suggesting to check in the spam bucket. which is what happened.
 
@barbarabeeton odd what was in the header, I'd just have written something in gmail and clicked send:-)
 
8:24 PM
@DavidCarlisle -- that's essentially what i would do as well. i'll send you the gory details off-line and you can figure it out. at the very least, there's a googotz of "X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics"; would give me a headache too.
 
@barbarabeeton ah did I sent it from work....
 
@DavidCarlisle -- and it's just been sent back to you there. might be interesting to compare the new headers (ams mail system based on outlook; i hate it) with what got spewed forth when you sent the original.
 
8:40 PM
@barbarabeeton "thunderbird thinks this message is junk mail" :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle -- oh joy, oh rapture. well, that's the same problem that johannes had.
 
@barbarabeeton I think the exchange headers are added by the ams but the initial problem i think is that gmail now uses tls encryption of the mail by default if it thinks that all parties can handle it so that triggered extra headers initially and then each stage seems to have accumulated more... there was a time I read my mail in emacs and by default I saw all the headers but these days I use gmail web mail or thunderbird and just go with the flow...
 
8:57 PM
@DavidCarlisle -- when i can, i use alpine, and can ignore headers (but turn them on if needed). but most messages are smaller; from karl, the headers are quite slender -- the route, the spam filter info (6 lines), receipt info (6 lines), the basic to/from/date, and some other small routine stuff. maybe 10k; header on yours was >45k.
 
@barbarabeeton yes so I saw, but as far as I can see most of them were exchange ones which i guess were added at AMS? no idea really, been a long time since I thought about that sort of thing
 
9:12 PM
@DavidCarlisle -- no, if exchange were adding junk to incoming mail, it would be consistent for all mail, so something from karl would be just as huge. i can believe that junk is added to outgoing mail, but I can't see that; internal copies may well be kept to the minimum. (i'm not sure i can force the headers by sending myself a message somewhere else, and then forwarding it back here; i'd need to be able to trap the headers on the other system, and i don't know how.)
 
yo'
First time I have seen this. @barbara Imagine that someone sends an article to AMS, it's fine, done in amsart, just it contains \usepackage{times}. I really lol'd
 
@barbarabeeton not sure most of it is a X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test and related headers so it's been through an ms exchange server somewhere. i posted it from gmail and I'm sure google don't use an ms exchange server for mail, it looks like it may be the list server at Exch06.uni.au.dk but I can't read the headers reliably enough to be sure any more. But as I say it is probably something in the original gmail headers has changed and triggered all the spam checking headers along the route.
 
@yo' -- our production cleanup routine removes all "extraneous" text fonts; of course we keep things like 'mathrsfs' or euler. for the moment, all books and journals are set in computer modern, except for the notices, which uses lucida. consistency is considered a good thing. (but some folks here are pretty eager to use the stix fonts, once they're in industrial strength shape.)
 
@barbarabeeton Towards unified printing: everything in Times New Roman, like the Chinese in the Mao era. ;-)
 
@egreg -- hmmmmph.
 
9:22 PM
@barbarabeeton typeset @egreg's next tugboat article in comic sans, in the name of diversity.
 
yo'
@barbarabeeton yeah. I mean, I hate when people obviously know LaTeX well, but mutilate it and think it's fine.
 
@DavidCarlisle -- if i go back far enough, the headers aren't as "heavy". something seems to have changed early last summer. you're correct, though, that there is evidence of an exchange server operating at uni.au.dk.
@DavidCarlisle -- that would offend me too much. so i decline. maybe a "light" version of univers, where you can't tell ones from ells from cap eyes.
@yo' -- agreed. at least the authors i have to deal with are usually willing to be taught. and, surprisingly, more often than not thank me for the lessons. (and even, wonder of wonders, sometimes send a nice note to the head of acquisitions; i think he sometimes uses the carrot of good tech support when he invites someone to publish with ams.)
 
yo'
btw, for $\exists a\in A : a>0$, do you use : or \colon?
 
@yo' -- i haven't seen the lovely tugboat ad come up anywhere yet. i wonder if it's a bit too big? (in the answers for the 2016 ads, it looks bigger than any of the others.)
 
yo'
@barbarabeeton I haven't seen any of the ads acutally
@barbarabeeton They obviously don't show up, since no ad has more than 1 click. And the TUGboat one is in the list
 
9:33 PM
@yo' -- hmmm. not there now. i thought i'd seen some maybe one or two days, but can't be sure now.
 
yo'
@barbarabeeton there are ads for hot questions, area51 and similar stuff, but the per-site ones seem to be still "dead"
 
@yo' -- interesting -- although they forced a change of shape, it doesn't show up in that list, and almost all of them look seriously squashed horizontally. maybe someone should post a query, but where?
 
yo'
@barbarabeeton there is a discussion about this on the big meta, and it is presumably a network-wide issue which is "temporary" according to the Powers.
@JoeBob Hello! I've just seen your ad. I like the product, but I don't think the ad says anything about it to attract interested people...
 
hey i just put my ad on the community page, can you guys please help me to look over it and upvote it so it can start appearing? see meta.tex.stackexchange.com/a/6552
@yo well i dont know how much text is necessary; it seems like all the other ads have < 3% click rate, so I want to try something different to get a higher click rate
 
@yo' -- oh, okay. i don't often check there. (too busy trying to beat the bugs list for amsmath into submission.)
 
9:40 PM
also I just saw an ad from the 2015 thread; is there a reason those are still appearing?
 
@JoeBob -- it looks nice, but i haven't any idea what it represents. ???
 
well its supposed to convert google docs into latex
 
yo'
@JoeBob Note that click rate for a product with a very specific userbase is not what interests you...
 
@barbarabeeton Maybe with the Klingon script
 
well it seems like the userbases are the same as they all apeear on SO, can you please elaborate? i am referring to the clickrates here: meta.tex.stackexchange.com/ads/display/6473
 
yo'
9:42 PM
@JoeBob ignore the numbers, the ads are not yet active
 
oh ok
@ barbara "i haven't any idea what it represents. ???" its supposed to be a (free!) product that converts a google doc's equations into high-quality latex
 
@egreg -- now that sounds promising. guess i'd better brush up on my klingon.
 
@barbarabeeton We should press Unicode so they include it
 
also how long does it take to get 6 upvotes generally?
 
@egreg -- they're not going to accept it from me unless we can show some math that's published using it.
@JoeBob -- can you say that somehow, without compromising the design? (maybe i'm not very imaginative, but i wouldn't have guessed that.)
 
yo'
9:47 PM
@JoeBob it depends, for a good ad, couple minutes. Usually about a day.
 
im not sure why the logo doesnt show that; a google doc logo with an arrow to latex should imply that it gets converted right
@yo ok, thanks
 
@JoeBob -- it's probably because i'm not familiar with the google doc logo. (the form of the latex logo is very nice -- kudos; many of the versions i see are appalling.)
 
@barbarabeeton \mathklingon{d} for the differential!
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@barbara thanks :) a graphic designer friend and I worked on getting that right
 
@egreg -- i like that! now all you have to do is get it published in a "recognized" journal. (have you read my little expansion of your end-of-definition trick? please let me know if i've botched anything; i've already posted it.)
 
10:05 PM
@barbarabeeton Not sure what you're referring to
 
@barbarabeeton I'm reading and writing to the list through gmane and a news reader. I checked the header of my messages, @DavidCarlisle, Karl and some other and they are all quite long (around 73 lines) and contain the diagnostic stuff.
 
@egreg -- getting that notation into print with an established publisher; unicode is very fussy about their sources. or (the second topic) the file i sent you yesterday to your non-university address; i guess you maybe haven't checked that mailbox in the last couple of days.
 
@barbarabeeton I'll do
 
@UlrikeFischer -- thanks for confirmation. i'm still not sure why that particular message from david was considered "junk mail".
 
yo'
@barbarabeeton Messages from mailing lists always tend to be marked as junk. Even such a large mail provider as google makes many mistakes in these, still marking some of the mails from the French math group as junk, just because I skip about half of the mails not actually reading them. I can't teach google to change this attitude.
Now it's time to say good night. Bye everybody!
 
10:29 PM
@barbarabeeton Seen and answered
 
10:49 PM
So, I've decided to write a (probably not so useful) package. Any advice? :D For example, should I just write "\RequirePackage" or write code so that it checks if the package has been loaded in the document?
 
11:44 PM
@Alenanno AFAIK that's what \RequirePackage does, so you don't need to.
Any latexmk gurus around?
 
11:59 PM
@Alenanno ? not sure what you mean, if the package is called longtable.sty normally in the docuemnt you just has \usepackage{longtable} what checks do you have in mind?
 

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