@Johannes_B: It's a multi-step run to get the job ... Schulleiterbeurteilung, do a 'show' at the Seminar in front of young teachers (Referendare) (I had this already on last Tuesday), this Tuesday the observation of an Mathematics lesson taught by a completely unknown teacher and advicing him, while being observed by a board of 'deciders'.
Saw busy guys, what's up? *Kabeltrommel* not working. One leaves to get stuff. Plugging in my extension chord with the orange switch. Doesn't glow, alright. Kabeltrommel raus, Stecker rein. Glowing. Ok, Kabeltrommel im Arsch. Took me a minute.
10 minutes later, the one guy comes back, with a zweipoliger Phasenprüfer, checks the Kabeltrommer and confirmes, there is no juice. Could have told him with the blink of an eye that there was no juice. Since it wasn't working, we coiled it back up and sat it down. It wasnt't plugged in.
@ChristianHupfer No, magic is going on. I want to misuse it for something else. I read @UlrikeFischer's article in DTK 02/2014 too often ;-)
@JosephWright yes was confused as I was trying to add tests for all "post etex" commands that are shared between xetex and luatex but then noticed etex had \ifincsname, all clear now.
@ChristianHupfer I was showing someone something at my desk the other day and ff seemed a bit slow so I decided to kill it and restart, they were a bit surprised by the warning about killing 120 tabs:-)
@DavidCarlisle There's a tikz manual? :D By the way, I don't understand why the pgfplots manual contains form fields. My adobe reader always tries to fix form fields when I load that manual. It's annoying
Hi there ... Has somebody experience with inserting their own page breaks (e.g. \newpage or \pagebreak) when pages are not supposed to have an equal height at all? It's very hard (read: impossible) for me to achieve this right now. Fiddling with the paperheight doesn't solve the issue.
Edit: (Or can I perhaps change the paperheight for different pages)?
@DavidCarlisle Imagine needing to have (e.g.) the first page 2 cm's long & the second page 50 cm's long & the third page 10 cm's long ... Do you think this is possible with TeX?
@VincentVerheyen do you mean the declared PDF page size (rather than the size of the printed text area?) if so \pdfpagesize (but probably better to use geometry package)
What would be a perfect way to achieve the desired result, would be to specify every page-break COMPLETELY MANUALLY (i.e. not having any kind of default paperheight which automatically interrupts your manual ideas). ... But I don't know if that's possible.
@DavidCarlisle In that case, I think I mean the PDF page size yes, I will look in to the \pdfpagesize package.
I want to create a \pagebreak variant that reduces the page (in which the \pagebreak was made) size so that there's NO (besides bottom margin) blank space after the page break. Is that even possible (the output could have pages of different size each)?
@DavidCarlisle At a certain height, I can't increase the page size any more. I get the error: "\geometry.sty:995: Dimension too large. <to be read again> \relax ... l.995 \Gm@process" ||| But more importantly: even when the paper height would be large enough hypothetically ... the \newpage or \pagebreak both add a significant amount of white-space before the page actually gets broken.
@DavidCarlisle ... still spinning a bit in my endless ignorance here; even though you have been very helpful and friendly ... Do you think that the Q&A can help me to give full manual control over the braking of each page?
Can't get any of the Q&A's code to compile right away . . . still fiddling =)
@DavidCarlisle Wow mate, thanks a bunch; you're extremely thanked. You nailed it. I use LaTeX out of "having no knowledge of reasons to use something else".
Hmm ... ok; well, It works great. I use TexShop and in the top-left corner, next to the button [Typeset] is [LaTeX] chosen ...
Hey @DavidCarlisle ... :D Your MWE works fine, but when trying to use your code in my full document, it breaks fine idem; but the content of a page just gets stretched evenly HUGELY before the breaks arrives ... =D I don't quite understand why this is the case; could you perhaps provide me with any suggestion?
Perhaps I'll try to re-create my document in your code, to see where the problems arise.
I guess your code overrules my \usepackage[...FOO...]{geometry} hé?
@Alenanno Thanks for reminding me. I haven't yet ... but have enough experience with StackExchange now, to guess that I probably would need to ask for it myself to a mod somehow, right? =D
@VincentVerheyen You're allowed multiple accounts, as long as they don't ever vote for each other or do other sockpuppet things. It's not exactly encouraged, but if you want to have an active account and an "anonymous" account, you can do it.
Aha, ok ... :D I didn't know that. Thanks. It is not in any of my interests to have multiple accounts though. It would be perhaps good to join the accounts together hé? (e.g. account user67662) ... However, it's not the case that this latter account has done a lot of things ...
So, the 3 account (the one which is writing this text & Guest-user & user67662) all come from me. However, the user67662 even has no profile page ... perhaps it got deleted or so? I will try to look up how to ask for a merge.
@Alenanno Ok, I guess I sort of merged them hé ... I kind of deleted my main account instead though ... :D So, in the end, my URL went from ...137043... to ...147219.... Not a big issue.
Well, its going great. Thanks for asking. The community is very precious. I'm just looking in to the beautiful documentation of tcolorbox at the moment. ||| I'm having an issue though in getting my current working document to break manually ... The always friendly DavidCarlisle has started me up. I might figure things out during the next couple of days.
If you're having trouble with something, ask a question. I'm more into Tikz and tables, but there are many experts here! And you're right, the community is awesome.
@VincentVerheyen It sounds a bit like you are trying to typeset an ebook.
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@Alenanno Thanks a lot, very friendly to offer your advice. Are you in the process of actively creating a document with Latex / managing packages at the moment? ||| + My old account without a profile (user67662) will probably be hard to merge, since they specifically ask for a profile link of both accounts to be merged.
@Johannes_B :D Yes, you are right (I guess); I would love to have an interactive end-product. I'm trying to digitalise a side-by-side translation of a mathematical piece (cf. some math question here). I would like to break the PDF's pages at the original page-numbers of the source document.
@VincentVerheyen Ah, ok. Always good to tell what you want to achieve. ;-) The book has the same page size everywhere, why do you want to change it?
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@Johannes_B The original source document indeed has the same page size everywhere; but I have left out most of the white-space (even though being very facsimile with regards to other aspects) ... Therefore, page 2 in the source document ends up to be just 2 lines in my working document ... =D Also, I have not been that facsimile (line-breaks & line-length etc.) to end up with every page of similar height.
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As a mathematician (in some regard at least), the white-space is not "needed". =D
@VincentVerheyen That hurts a bit. Are you sure you wanna go for that? White space is important.
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@Johannes_B :D In my opinion it best suits the end-user in this case yes, as .e.g. some math is chipped due to the page-breaks ... As a reader I wouldn't like to have extra white-space between my math lines as well, which are already chipped. ___ But I can see where you are coming from, and could agree that it might be very important in other cases.
@DavidCarlisle The LaTeX kernel should have provided prefixes and suffixes for \@seccntformat or a hook around \csname the#1\endcsname, but also a \s@<counter>` macro besides \p@<counter>.
@DavidCarlisle The \eatbracket macro will definitely not work with numeric counters, when one has more than nine subsubsections.
On a completely unrelated matter, the documentation of package booktabs has some nice tips regarding the typesetting of nice tables. — Johannes_B2 hours ago
@Johannes_B ^^ I think it's rather completely related... ;-)
@ChristianHupfer My Deutschlehrer was a gym teacher by heart. He once said: Los, Zettel raus, wir schreiben ne Leistungskontrolle. One of us simply mumbled No, all joined. Hans standing in front of the class, Los Leute, Zettel raus but he gave up after two minutes.
@PaulGessler No, apparently, the OP wanted to have ugly tables on purpose ;-)
@Johannes_B @ChristianHupfer in church this morning the pastor asked the congregation if anyone spoke German. I sheepishly raised my hand, then failed miserably when asked to translate something. :-)
@ChristianHupfer @Johannes_B well I thought it might be something simple that I could figure out, but it definitely was not. It was some long paragraph about this group: ptfusa.org (apologies in advance for the web design...)
@PaulGessler To be honest, they look a whee bit crazy ;-)
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@Johannes_B Nice critical question, which makes me wonder about that as well. Perhaps I should rephrase and say that I've chosen a different lay-out setting (column-spacing et cetera) which makes that not all pages are equally lengthy :D
@barbarabeeton is there someplace on the web I can find your preferred email address for TeX-related stuff? I think I've found an unauthorized typeset PDF copy of The TeXbook.
@VincentVerheyen The content of the book is in a plain text file on your machine as wel. Typesetting is not allowed.
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Strange matter. It has a right to stay in a pedagogically bad shape? Perhaps legally, but I wouldn't say any document should have that right on moral grounds. I regret it, especially in the digital age.
@PaulGessler -- on don knuth's web page, he requests that reports of unauthorized pdf copies of the texbook be sent to the tug board: board@tug.org. (as a practical matter, i'm the one who writes the letters of complaint. some get attended to, some don't. but we try.)
@Johannes_B -- as for craziness of wisconsin, i was in milwaukee a few months ago, attending a memorial for my cousin's wife. while there, another cousin, the "family genealogist", took us around to the various cemeteries where the family ancestors are interred. (this included freistadt.) in the same cemeteries as my forbears repose are several graves and monuments to the knuth family -- they were among the "old germans", the first group of settlers.
@Johannes_B -- many of those are just references, or secondary items, like the errata lists, or "texbook naruby" which isn't the texbook itself. but i'll follow up on the ones that clearly are texbook.pdf. thanks.
@Johannes_B -- where would you suggest i publish them? (maybe i will impose on someone's blog, when i retire. one of my co-workers here keeps telling me to write little essays; he's an adjunct professor of english as well as one of the ams systems crew. but i have yet to find time.)
@barbarabeeton You could even publish a book. I have heard that there is quite a good typesetting system out there ;-)
@barbarabeeton Many users here blog as well. I don't really know how all this works, but i think someone will gladly help with the details. Maybe @Stefan knows a bit more, as the administrator of the texwelt-blog and many many other sites.
@yo' -- i'm sure blogging isn't difficult, but finding time is. have you figured out yet a way to add a few hours to the day? (i do require my beauty sleep ...)
@Johannes_B -- there are four solid hits. besides the one in china, there's one in italy (i should enlist @egreg's assistance in obliterating that one), and two more that require a bit more digging to ascertain their ownership (one's on github; i think i'll start with that one).
@Johannes_B -- same here, but i figure i can identify the owner, and try to find an e-mail address through other means if it's not posted there. ams has a decent net connection; won't try doing this from home.
@egreg -- nope, all german, from different parts of germany, met after immigrating to the u.s. in the 1800s. mother's parents settled in baltimore, maryland; father's parents in wisconsin. both areas had substantial german immigrant populations at the time.
@egreg -- yes, exactly: personalpages.to.infn.it/~zaninett/pdf/texbook_pdf.pdf might you be willing to help me get it removed? (i can send you the "boilerplate" message i adapt for each such incident, if it would be helpful.)
@1010011010 Too many questions. You start by creating a very simple class :-) And you typically use packages that you need, just with \RequirePackage instead of \usepackage. It's also wise to use either \LoadClass or \LoadClassWithOptions at least once to load any common class you build on.
@1010011010 you have to keep in mind the intended use. If it's just something for you, and you'll always be using unicode engines, fine. But if it's for a broader audience, only lock people in to a specific engine if it's absolutely necessary.
@egreg ^^ dies in 2015 (just reported on texlive list) the documentation for xecjk is a bit challenging even for someone with my awesome linguistic skills...
I think I just need to change \chardef\@classstart=\xe@alloc@intercharclass to use \count257 instead but don't really have good test data
@DavidCarlisle I remember having asked them to use the new allocation mechanism; unfortunately they seem to have used the internal, which is of course wrong.
@DavidCarlisle I proposed \newXeTeXintercharclass, of course defining a new counter for keeping the last allocated number. But good programming should not use this. If now it has a fixed index, one can do as you say, I guess.
@egreg yes in the new scheme I left a block of 10 or so counters free at teh bottom of the extended range to use for counters for these extended register types, helps keeps logs consistent across engines (and avoided a clash with etex if both are loaded as it also uses that block for its allocation macros)
@DavidCarlisle Another strategy would have been allocating a new class and then start from that number, going down by one. I don't remember who wrote that part, but I guess it was in cooperation: I said Mike Kamermans about \newXeTeXintercharclass and he wrote that line.
@egreg OK, thanks for the thoughts, I sent a holding message to texlive so hopefully the OP can test on real document, will think about where best to put this another day..
I want to create a \pagebreak variant that reduces the page (in which the \pagebreak was made) size so that there's NO (besides bottom margin) blank space after the page break. Is that even possible (the output could have pages of different size each)?
