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12:00 AM
@olga.saucedo ooh you have two! :)
 
@PauloCereda yes, they have more fun that way. What do the names of your cats mean (if they mean anything)?
 
@olga.saucedo Ciça actually just doesn't mean anything, it's actually a nickname for some Brazilian names, like Cecília. :) Fubá means corn meal. :)
 
@PauloCereda :)
 
I have two photos of them, would you like to meet them? :)
 
@PauloCereda Oh yes, please!
 
12:05 AM
@olga.saucedo I just have two, sadly. I'm terrible at taking pictures. :)
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This is Ciça.
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And this is Fubá. :)
 
@PauloCereda they're cuuuuute! Congrats!
 
@olga.saucedo Thanks! :) Looking forward to meeting your pets. :)
 
super cute :O
 
@izabera Thanks! :)
 
@PauloCereda I have a photo somewhere in my computer...
 
12:08 AM
@olga.saucedo ooh! :)
 
awwwwwwwwww
 
@olga.saucedo Oh my, they are so cute! :)
Absolutely lovely! <3
 
@PauloCereda Batian is the blond and Nelion is the black one. Thank you!
 
guys keep on posting, i'm starring all of them
 
12:11 AM
@izabera :)
 
@izabera <3
 
Kitties invade the internet! Everywhere!
 
@olga.saucedo They look naughty. :P
 
@PauloCereda they are!
 
@olga.saucedo As every cat. :P
 
12:12 AM
@PauloCereda Indeed :)
 
@PauloCereda We should definitely make Fubá and Nelion meet each other. ;-)
 
@egreg ooh that would be epic! :)
@olga, @izabera: got the tablet and took one photo of each other. Hold on. :)
 
x waits x
 
@egreg Epic!
 
12:17 AM
yay!
 
@PauloCereda awww!!!
 
Fubá is \Huge.
 
lol
 
@olga, @izabera: Fubá is originally white, but the colour varies every time he goes on an adventure. :) One day he entered inside a barbecue grill and got all dirty. :P
 
12:19 AM
lol poor cat
i wanted to type fubà but then realized that's the wrong accent
 
@Paulo, I can imagine him trying to clean himself.
 
fub\'a
 
@olga.saucedo :)
@izabera Close enough. :)
 
that's the best i can do with an italian keyboard
:P
 
I found another photo of Ciça, but I won't post it. It's too cute. :)
 
12:21 AM
@PauloCereda :)
 
@olga.saucedo Ah nevermind, here she goes:
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@PauloCereda, too cute! I'm starring that one
 
@olga.saucedo She's very small and cuddly. :)
I love cats.
 
@PauloCereda Cats are wonderful.
 
@olga.saucedo They really are. :)
@olga: how old are Batian and Nelion?
 
12:27 AM
@PauloCereda they will be two years soon. They're brothers. I don't know exactly how old they are because they're foundlings.
@PauloCereda, how old are Ciça and Fubá?
 
@olga.saucedo Oh my, they are so young! :) I love when cats are brothers, there's no need for adaptation. :)
@olga.saucedo Ciça is 9, Fubá is 7. Very active, and Fubá eats a lot. :)
 
@PauloCereda, yes, that was easy. Nelion is the one that eats a lot in my household. He weighs about 50% more than Batian...
 
@olga.saucedo :)
 
@PauloCereda :)
 
@olga.saucedo My mom needs to cover everything in the kitchen, otherwise Fubá steals it. He loves zucchini. :)
 
12:37 AM
@PauloCereda Oh, my! Zucchini? That's original. My cats can't go into the kitchen. They're confined to one very large room ever since they jumped out the window... \blushes
 
Spam:
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A: How to get correct arrow orientation on TikZ arc?

james uzolove dis i av been longing 4 dis

 
@olga.saucedo :)
Hey, @Canageek is also a cat person. :)
Hi, by the way. :)
 
@olga.saucedo My cats once licked all the icing off my Mom's birthday cake
Salutations
Among other things that went wrong that night
 
@Canageek Uh-oh. :)
 
As I recall, I had a stomach flu and was throwing up, the car broke down, my Mom was trapped in a blizzard
and a few other things
 
12:42 AM
@PauloCereda, there's cats for you. @Canageek, hello!
 
My Dad sent a cut down description of it to a radio show, it made that air AND the best of book
^^
 
@Canageek I was going to say that, it sounds like a great story
 
My dog was the one with odd tastes though, favourite food? banana
 
@Canageek hehe :)
 
Could hear or smell it, we have no idea, the second you opened it, anywhere in the house. Even if he was deep alseep. Normally he'd slowly wake up if you were cutting meat or such, but crack a banada? He'd charge arcoss the house.
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12:51 AM
@Canageek Lovely! :)
 
@PauloCereda Are all the ones above yours?
Sadly I only see him once a year now, since I moved
 
@Canageek how sweet!
 
@Canageek Yes. :) @olga has Batian and Nelion. :)
 
@PauloCereda How many do you have?
 
12:53 AM
@Canageek Two.
 
@PauloCereda :)
 
@Canageek ooh cat.zip. :)
 
this chat should be renamed to TeX, LaTeX, Ca t Z and Friends
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Friends, I have to leave now. I'm traveling to São Paulo tomorrow morning. Good night! :)
 
bye bye @PauloCereda
 
12:56 AM
@PauloCereda Good night!
 
Can someone please try the code in tex.stackexchange.com/q/188697/3954 ? I don't get the result showed in the image in the question. The three great circles are missing in the output I get (PGF/TikZ version 3.0), but the OP claims in a comment thet the code produces the image with the 3 great circles. Am I missing something?
 
@GonzaloMedina i only get a sphere with a vertical line passing through it
texlive 2014 on windows
 
@izabera Thanks. It's weird. Perhaps the code works on older versions of PGF/TikZ. I tried the original in TeXample: texample.net/tikz/examples/map-projections but some of the lines are missing.
 
@olga.saucedo ok windows sucks
 
1:08 AM
@izabera, hehe, Ubuntu rules!
 
@PauloCereda cat.zip?
 
@GonzaloMedina err.. can you please help me with that problem i had today with the blurry path?
i'll reveal my secret if you help me x.x
 
1:38 AM
@olga.saucedo Which version of PGF/TikZ did you use?
 
@GonzaloMedina ... hmm... how can I find out? Sorry...
 
@olga.saucedo Compile this:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{tikz}
\begin{document}
\pgfversion
\end{document}
The output will contain the version.
 
@GonzaloMedina 2.10
@GonzaloMedina you're right, it's an older version
 
@olga.saucedo As I suspected, the code works in 2.10 but not in 3.0.
 
@GonzaloMedina, ouch.
 
1:44 AM
¡Ah, veo que somos compatriotas! Qué agradable ver a alguien más de Colombia por acá.
 
@GonzaloMedina, sí, de Cali. Lo mismo digo!
@GonzaloMedina Gracias
 
Now we can open a chat room for LaTeX in Spanish :)
 
@GonzaloMedina Woohoo!
 
@izabera Sure, but not today. I am too tired now.
 
ok sorry :P
 
1:48 AM
@izabera No problem. Tomorrow I'll let you know when I am around so you can tell me what do you want and I'll see if I can help you :)
Your secret will be safe with me ;)
 
XD
thank you :)
 
Good night, @olga.saucedo and @izabera!
 
night night ^^
 
@GonzaloMedina Good night!
 
2:19 AM
@olga.saucedo are you still there?
what about you, @Canageek ?
i need your opinion
 
@izabera I'm here, though I'm probably the worst person to ask
Whats up?
 
well i'm doing my entry for this: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/134638/…
i'm copying this birthday card i made for my boyfriend some time ago
and this is the result so far: izabera.altervista.org/happybday.pdf
it's not complete, i still have some problem with the fadings, but what do you think about it?
 
2:41 AM
@izabera I like them
Very nice, what did you use to make them?
 
for the first one gimp and inkscape
the second one is in luatex + tikz :P
 
@izabera I'm here, sorry, had to take care of something.
 
np ^^
 
@izabera wow! Impressive!
 
thank you :D
 
2:44 AM
@izabera with cats! Meow!
 
yay!
today is caturday for this chat
 
@izabera :)
 
@izabera Wow, that is impressive that you can do both and get them to look so similar
Which was harder?
 
2:59 AM
definitely the tikz version since a) i'm copying the gimp version which was drawn much more freely, now i have to respect the proportions and such; b) with gimp i just created a heart shaped brush with random color-scale-angle-opacity and painted where needed, and c) this is the first time i use it in a real world application, if i may call this "real world"
 
 
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7:42 AM
Hi @MarianoSuárez-Alvarez :-)
 
8:04 AM
Hi there, does someone know some good reference on how to patch classfiles? At the moment I would like to change something like \def\@appendixstar{\@@par \def\thesection{Appendix \Alph{section}}}. I just need to delete the word "Appendix" but I don't know how to reach this part. Thank you
 
\makeatletter\renewcommand\@appendixstar{\@@par \def\thesection{\Alph{section}}}\makeatother?
 
there are other definitions in there. Will they stay untouched?
 
@LaRiFaRi That only changes the \@appendixstar command ...
 
yes, but this command includes a lot of definitions.
And thanks for your help by the way
 
@LaRiFaRi Ah, no, you need to include everything.
 
8:12 AM
So I somehow need to code: "go to \@appendixstar, find the line \def\thesection..." and change it.
Ok, but I guess, there are long nested definitions around in common class files but the patches I sometimes see are really short... maybe I was lucky until now...
What about this "patchcmd"? Is this some tool to address single lines?
 
@LaRiFaRi I'm not really familiar with those, never used them. There are probably some questions on the site describing them. The 'naive' approach is to just copy the entire definition of \@appendixstar and change just the bit you want.
 
ok. Thanks
Just one last question. Why didn't you have to write the old definition? Something like \renwcommand{\oldstuff}{\newstuff}
 
ah, good. Thanks
 
@Canageek I saw the cat looking all compact, so I made a bad joke, sorry. :)
 
8:18 AM
@LaRiFaRi Huh? You have \def\something{...}, and you write \renewcommand\something{.,.} in your preamble.
@LaRiFaRi I'm not really the best person to give advice here though, I don't know that much.
 
13 hours ago, by Paulo Cereda
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: Argentina Netherlands
 
@skullpatrol It happens. :)
 
@TorbjørnT. nono, thats already enough. Seems like I never redefined a "\def" command but just "\newcommand"s I will play around with this. Thanks again
 
@PauloCereda Saturday's game is going to be interesting, no?
 
Some thoughts on case-changing UTF-8 input in TeX: texdev.net/2014/07/10/…
 
8:23 AM
@skullpatrol No, I'm scared. :P
 
@PauloCereda Me too :D
 
@Heikooberdiek The daily spammer has called: I spotted him almost immediately :-)
@PauloCereda Who will you want to win in the final?
 
@DavidCarlisle I skimmed franks answer, but as you already noted, the solution is not in there.
 
@skullpatrol I haven't opened any tabs on sports or watched TV or read newspapers since the... well... the incident. :P
@JosephWright Go Germany! :)
 
@PauloCereda Yeah!
 
8:26 AM
@JosephWright: don't tell me you are supporting Argentina. :)
 
@PauloCereda No, support Germany in these things anyway, so I'm happy
 
@JosephWright woohoo
 
@Johannes_B I'm sure I wrote an answer about fps@.... once but search only showed one from egreg (not sure the question is quite close enough to call it a duplicate though)
 
@DavidCarlisle ^^^^^ How bout that?
 
@DavidCarlisle: was there any cake yesterday? :)
 
8:33 AM
@Johannes_B OK that is a dup so why did a search for \fps@figure not show it:-)
@PauloCereda I'll bring a photo in tomorrow, you may recognise it....
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle what did you think of the answers to my question :-)
about %
 
@DavidCarlisle I don't trust the internal search. Using evil google instead

`fps site:tex.stackexchange.com float`
 
@StefanKottwitz the TeXwelt blog is down again: »Fehler beim Aufbau einer Datenbankverbindung«
 
@PauloCereda The whole game is going to come down to 1) what Messi does or does not do and 2) how strict are the refs going to be with the yellow cards, just like the last WC
 
8:42 AM
@Johannes_B probably @egreg has got @PauloCereda to hack it to bias returning egreg answers, to keep his reputation count high.
 
@skullpatrol Pretty much it indeed. :)
@DavidCarlisle Wait for me to get into CHAOS. :)
Time to go to São Paulo. :) You guys behave, specially David. :) Allonz-y!
 
@PauloCereda no chance
 
@DavidCarlisle We've been caught.
 
@skullpatrol when i looked yesterday they said same as we said in chat here, the thing is called a percent symbol so either you assume the listener knows what this it is which case it's rather tautologous is speech: "the percent symbol represents percent" or you don't assume that and want to describe the shape of the symbol in which case you want to say "the percent symbol is made up of a sloping bar and two 0"
 
9:00 AM
@DavidCarlisle Thank you for responding :-)
That helps alot
 
9:14 AM
@JosephWright Good. :-)
 
2
Q: Is there a simple way to manually change font with font size in XeTeX?

JaloCapaMany typfaces come with different fonts for different font sizes. For example Surveyor Pro has a Book style for main text and a Display style for headings (or in general, large text). Another example is the open source project XITS which if scaled down to smaller text needs kerning pair adjustmen...

Thoughts? The poster wants I think to use different fonts rather than optical sizes of the same font: is that how others see this?
 
@JosephWright the last comment from the OP after yours clarifies that that is what he meant (if you regard cmr10 and cmr17 as different fonts)
 
9:44 AM
@DavidCarlisle Well they are optical sizes in separate files, as opposed to a multiple master font (anyone know of any free ones?)
 
10:06 AM
Hi, how can I test whether my font uses all OpenType features (e.g. for calligraphic fonts) when I use \setmainfont in LuaLaTeX?
 
@JosephWright sure and I haven't looked what fontspec does, does it mot make it easy to support that (like the fd file declarations in NFSS) ?
 
@DavidCarlisle It can do different sizes (there's a demo in the manual), but not different 'root names' for the font file(s)
 
FontFace = {c}{n}{
  Font = Times ,
  SizeFeatures = {
    { Size =   -10 , Font=Georgia } ,
    { Size = 10-15}                 , % default "Font = Times"
    { Size = 15-    , Font=Cochin } ,
  },
},
@JosephWright isn't that ^^^ saying you can use different fonts at different sizes?
 
@DavidCarlisle I guess so: I'd not explored in detail!
 
@JosephWright not sure I'd looked at the manual before, just searched for "size" :-)
@JosephWright I'll post an answer see if the OP wants to test it:-)
 
10:13 AM
@DavidCarlisle He's beaten you to it!
 
@JosephWright yes, voted:-)
 
10:27 AM
@DavidCarlisle Hey! You cheated!
 
Great, I'm stuck in the bus station waiting for the next bus. :(
 
@egreg but gained no benefit
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
@PauloCereda don't worry you can keep up with the action at this live feed bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/28238727
 
Werner update: 909 to go 200K. We'll have a party next week!
 
10:35 AM
@egreg Peter Grill's only 400 off 100K as well
 
@DavidCarlisle Two parties!
 
ooh I heard about parties. :)
My bus has arrived. Back in a minute.
Finally. :)
No wine.
 
10:50 AM
@PauloCereda A bit too early, for wine.
 
11:08 AM
@egreg: it is 5 o'clock somewhere. :)
 
@PauloCereda I'll go to lunch and have some wine.
 
11:23 AM
@egreg: ooh! :)
 
@PauloCereda I'm here to collect my share of jokes
 
11:48 AM
@percusse: :)
 
@PauloCereda It was such a boring game, you can't even make jokes about it.
 
Last stop before SP. It's raining a lot.
 
So I installed Google Chrome to punish myself :) Have fun in San Pransisco
 
@percusse: I was expecting a better game from the Dutch. :)
@percusse: Chrome? Oh no!
Dude, don't do that. :)
 
@PauloCereda FF is really really losing its integrity. I can't keep it open (I guess due to Java or Flash)
after a few tabs, 1GB of memory and super slow tab transition I really don't know why
 
11:54 AM
I believe it's because FF sandbox stuff on dynamic linkage... wait a minute, does that even make sense? :)
Sir, try lynx. It is even older than David, I guess. :P
 
Haha, checking it
 
Web before animated GIFs was so boring. :)
 
@PauloCereda But we got to get a lot from BBS.
 
So true.
 
12:35 PM
this does work with \def\a{{foo}bar} :-) — David Carlisle 1 min ago
@JosephWright ^^^
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, saw
 
@PauloCereda or emacs w3-mode (sadly not installed by default any more it seems)
 
@DavidCarlisle Have deleted my answer :-)
 
@David: ooh. :)
 
@JosephWright @egreg would never have done that (he'd just have doubled its length and tried to blind the OP to the merits of the other answer:-)
 
12:42 PM
@cgnieder Thank you, I fixed it. That database runs still on another server, where the texdoc.org confluence installation filled up the space with daily backups, so mysql died
 
12:58 PM
@DavidCarlisle Should we count tokens?
 
1:11 PM
yes and wipet's :-) I noticed I could do without the intermediate macro while coding, but left it in:-) but anyway I'm sure I deserve the tick
 
1:52 PM
@DavidCarlisle I win, but I'll let you keep the tick, if the OP agrees.
 
Good morning!
 
@olga.saucedo good afternoon:-)
 
Widows and orphans are driving me mad.
 
2:15 PM
@NicolaTalbot Send the latter into adoption.
 
@egreg :-) I feel quite mean culling widows and orphans. I think I may have to let some of them slip through the net.
 
@NicolaTalbot Send some to @PauloCereda, he'll take care of them.
 
@egreg lol :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
 
2 hours later…
4:03 PM
@DavidCarlisle See?
2 hours ago, by egreg
@DavidCarlisle I win, but I'll let you keep the tick, if the OP agrees.
 
Hi , I have a question which really won't interest anyone so I'll ask it here: I want to use a protection similar to how the TeX-book is protected against compilation, so that it will show the source code in the editor but it won't compile by pressing the button. TeXbook opens with a statement: `\loop\iffalse`
`\errmessage{This manual is copyrighted and should not be TeXed}\repeat`, but deleting that still wouldn't let it compile so it appears a little more complex than that. How can I achieve the same result?
 
4:23 PM
@1010011010 In texbook.tex there is \pausing=1 which means that TeX stops after reading each line.
@DavidCarlisle And don't say I'm not playing fair. ;-)
You should have left the tick to David, the basic idea is his. — egreg 18 mins ago
 
@egreg Did you see the 'follow up' question about 'percentage complete' page numbering? My feeling is that the additional requirements can probably be covered by edits to the existing answers on the first question.
 
@JosephWright Maybe so, but I'm not interested; the original question had some bad answers. This kind of “metric information” is just annoying or meant to make the reader think “Gee! Still so much to read of this abomination!”
 
@1010011010 i don't get the idea behind it
you share the source, then you don't want others to compile it
the same goes for the texbook, of course
 
@izabera Basically I want to show the code to someone but I don't want that person to be able to compile the document - it's more of a methodical showcase.
 
ok but... if he knows what he's reading, he'd know how to remove that protection too, wouldn't he?
 
4:36 PM
Pretty much. But protections can be improved, hopefully. :-)
 
software houses have no real way to defend against piracy...
 
The protection itself can be part of the showcase too.
 
honestly if you share the source the best protection you can hope for is just a "%please don't compile/copy/edit this"
 
I fully understand what you're getting at but yeah, why would I add in support for three different listings packages, options to turn off figures, hell I even coded most of the R algorithms into the document just for the hell of it. And I can totally see that this would make some people shake their heads, after all, why not use Sweave ? Why not support only one package of this and that? Usability is important too, to me at least.
That's why I'm working on changing the accessibility package to support listings as well, etc.
It's an enormous project with minimal gain - in a way I see the code you create as the portfolio of what you can offer and a large part of the customization that I hear many people bring up as a prime reason to use LaTeX not only stems from but is even contingent on said usability and accessibility of the features as the original coder had them in mind.
 
4:55 PM
@egreg :-)
 
5:10 PM
@DavidCarlisle An evil couple :-)
 
5:27 PM
@izabera I'm here. I see that you've posted your answer already .
 
yes, sorry. i must admit i was trying to earn that bounty, so i posted my "drawing" before it expired :P
well, since i didn't win it anyway, i guess there's still time for improvements
my problem was to blur that yellow strip like i did with gimp
 
@izabera This can be done by drawing the path several times with different line widths and different opacities.
 
@GonzaloMedina mmh ok, thanks for the input. is there any way to vary the path width while drawing it?
 
5:55 PM
@egreg yes, you win with the brevity of your code about TrimBraces. Your code could be more short when you remove two redundant braces after first \@nil.
 
@izabera I am not sure, perhaps @percusse can answer this.
 
7:00 PM
@izabera Not without significant effort. There are a few questions about it and amazingly I found none.
One way is making a decoration that walks over the path with small increments and changes the line width. It can get really slow
 
7:18 PM
Hello @percusse and thanks for the duolingo tip!
 
@wipet Shorter, but some nanoseconds slower. ;-)
@wipet Bruno Le Floch is a master of argument switching.
 
7:40 PM
@egreg Morten is also quite good (though he's currently AWOL!)
Well, actually we do know how to get hold of him, but Frank needs to work on enticing him back to the TeX world :-)
 
7:51 PM
@egreg first (measured by time) was David. His answer occured when I struggled with my poor English...
 
@wipet I was referring to code efficiency: TeX is slightly faster processing braced (undelimited) arguments than a single unbraced token.
 
 
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10:51 PM
@topskip Sure, but once those are discovered, it is easy to parse. Not like something weird with { and } you have to match. I can barely program and I can parse a XYZ coordinate file, but have no idea how to go about the same data in JSON or something like that.
@DavidCarlisle Happy birthday
 
11:27 PM
@JosephWright But the daily spammer still seems to exist: tex.stackexchange.com/users/58865/ling
 
11:53 PM
I am stuck in SP. :(
 
@PauloCereda I'm sorry to hear that! Any estimation on how long will you be stuck?
 

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