@JosephWright thanks, I see you have some pushback on the char classes stuff (not sure I understood the comment actually as you didn't allocate a new xetexcharclass)
@DavidCarlisle Yes, I'm going to reply to that this morning: it's a clear bug in the existing allocator so something needed to happen. I'll say that there's no plan to keep adding stuff: I don't think the classes actually work very well
I want to write a macro that expands differently depending on the pattern following it. Specifically I want to use it to allow a more readable notation for quantum mechanical states, e.g.
% Non-working example
\def \m<#1| { \left\langle #1 \right|}
\def \m|#1> { \left| #1 \right\ran...
@DavidCarlisle -- amstex.sty hasn't been maintained for even longer than amsmath. it's worth considering discontinuing it; it's meant only for latex2.09, and i sure hope that nobody is still using that seriously. (if they are, then i think the recommendation needs to be "stick with a pre-2016 installation of (la)tex".)
@PauloCereda -- now wait a minute! that would include me, and i am very much opposed to the idea.
@egreg that was what I noticed, just ended up looking strange in the manus I'm editing \operatorname{bd} A looks like bdA not bd and A separated by a space
% Reduce the space around math operators:
% \begin{macrocode}
\thinmuskip=2mu
\medmuskip=2.5mu plus 1mu minus 1mu
\thickmuskip=4mu plus 1.5mu minus 1mu
%</mathptm|mathptmx>
@daleif I can't even blame @DavidCarlisle for this. :(
@DavidCarlisle Need much the same for packages without .dtx sources or for our own use the various Unicode files I set up a while ago (with extracted data)
What is the reliable way of navigating to this chat room (short of memorizing "room/41")? I was prompted to move a discussion in comments to chat, but declined because I wasn't sure I could find it.
@PauloCereda - Christian and I have also established that we're also huge James Bond fans. In fact, I think Christian has a strong yearning to be James Bond one day...
@Mico: I wish I could get some collectibles, but they are insanely expensive around here... I have seven rubber ducks, one TARDIS, a BachoTeX mug and a rubber mouse in my office. :)
@PauloCereda - I have the Lego Millennium Falcon and Jabba Sail Barge in my office. I'm working on the Lego Death Star (4000+ pieces) these days -- at home, not at the office... It's taking a very long time to assemble, that's for sure. Of course, it's also loads of fun!!
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@Mico Oh my, that sounds awesome!
@Romain: coin coin! :)
@Romain: should we tell @Mico Hans is father of some bloke...? :)
@JosephWright -- could you please "rescue" a question from being closed? tex.stackexchange.com/q/294848 has a pointer to a question for which the answer used to be the recommended method, but an improved method has been made available; i've updated the old answer to point to this new one, but with 4 close votes, ...
@egreg -- thanks. (you make it look like you know more about ams document classes than i do. is that really fair? just because you live 5 time zones earlier?)
@barbarabeeton Possibly. However, the documentation for \for, \except and \forany is not really that good.
@barbarabeeton [This needs to be documented in the users’ guide, including the idea of using \for{5ed}{\linebreak} to mark edition-specific line and page breaks. [mjd,1999/12/27]]
@egreg -- yeah, except i'm embargoed from making any changes, even to the documentation. i can make changes to the ams author faq so if you have suggestions for improving that, i'd really appreciate it.
@yo' -- i'm certain that it will be very tasty. (what are you putting in it? onions, carrots and celery for sure; make sure to include the celery tops -- too often around here, those are cut off and the cook doesn't even get to see them. fie.)
@barbarabeeton i got the celery olny the root (bulb) :-( other than that yeah, carrots, onions, red onions, garlic, oregano, bayleaves, pepper, all berries (or how go you call it), majoran, olive oil and then some vegetables I'll have to look up in the dictionary :)
Oh I forgot to add a piece of ginger, I'll be right back
turnip, parsnip and leeks. And I forgot to mention rosemary and thyme
And no ginger this time, the one I have is spoiled :-(
@yo' -- "celery root" = celeriac; not the usual celery, and not the same taste either, but good too. "all berries", maybe allspice? (i usually associate that more with baking, but okay.) i'd usually add thyme (oh, you got that) and parsley. ginger sounds real good! (too bad the one you have is past its prime.) you have to give us a report after it's ready.
is there a way to "prime" the tex compiler with a preamble? then, every time i call it on a tex file which contains nothing except \begin{document} <a body> \end{document}, the compiler doesn't bother wasting its time reloading all the packages that are needed, it just compiles the tex file based on the preamble that it has been "primed" with
I try to improve the time pdflatex needs to compile my book.
Really working example
book.tex
%&preamble
\begin{document}
Hi
\end{document}
and
preamble.tex
\documentclass{article}
I run the following commands on bash console:
$ pdflatex -ini -jobname="preamble" "&pdflatex preamble.tex\d...
@barbarabeeton (sorry, I really had to switch from the phone to the PC) well, I'm doing the broth for freezing mostly, as a base to various other things like couscous, soups and sauces etc.
@yo' -- actually, those are two (somewhat) different vegetables. celeriac is a close relative of celery, but it's grown especially for the root. and yes, it's the green stalks that are called just "celery". a summer treat is short lengths of celery stalk with the channel filled with peanut butter, or cottage cheese, or some other sort of spreadable cheese (i think liptauer would be really good, though i've never had that combination). and celery (the green kind) is more often used here.
@user89 the Czech name for both is celer, just the green one bears the adjective řapíkatý :)
@barbarabeeton We use the root a lot for broths, and my friend, who happens to be a vegetarian, makes "celeriac schnitzel"---I really have to invite myself to her place to taste it!
Celeriac is much more popular here than celery I think
@yo' That's what Wikipedia thinks (though it talks in terms of Europe and the US, while the difference seems to me to be English-speaking countries and others, since in the UK the stalks are celery and are the popular case)
@barbarabeeton I'm not a fan of leek as-is (it's "noisy" between my teeth, I'm very sensitive to this kind of sounds), so for me, a leek soup has to be a cream...
OTOH, the Czech people say: "Polívka je grunt" ("Soup is a base", note the usage of the German word in the idiomatic language), but they mean in general soups that are not creamy.
@JosephWright yeah; and also, as Joachim showed, for what it's called: "device independence"
@yo' -- so you'll just have to plant a garden (when you have a place to do it). try growing celery (it needs a lot of water), and for a leafier variation, lovage.
@barbarabeeton my parents do have a garden, growing mostly strawberries, currant, tomatos, cucumbers, potatoes, zucchini (or how do you spell it; cuketa or cukina in Czech), carrots, greenpea, garlic.
(I tell you, garden garlic is 100x better than the shop garlic; the same for strawberries and greenpea, for the other things, the difference is not that significant)
@yo' -- i swear that zucchini didn't exist, or wasn't known, when i was growing up. i was familiar with lots of different kinds of squashes, but not that.
imagine a windowed application, with two panes: the left hand pane, you write math equations in TeX markup, on the right hand pane, you see the pretty output of what you are writing -- say you write x + y on the left hand pane, then in the right hand pane, you can also do something silly like drag y, and put it where x was, and then x automatically flips into the only empty spot left (where y was)
@yo' -- never tried this, but i think it might work ... they're all nice and mooshy now, so (try just a bit first), you could pulverize them (i'd use a reamer, but if you have a food processor, that would be quicker), then add some liquid (a bit of the vegetable broth), cream, and season to taste for a creamed vegetable soup. grind up some parsley for a green color. chop some chives or scallions on the top, or in summer, a nasturtium flower or marigold petals would be pretty too.
@Witiko @JosephWright sorry, i was being a bit too cheeky. i guess i found mathjax a bit frustrating because i wanted to use it for a blog to render all sorts of mathematics, but at the time, it didn't have support for the physics package (now it does), so it became frustrating to use
I have never used a Continuous Integration system (CI) before. I primarily code in MATLAB, Python or PHP. Neither of these have a build step and I do not see how a CI could be used for my work. A friend on a large project in a large firm told me that language does not matter.
I do not see how CI...
\begin{equation}
\begin{aligned}
[c\mathbf{v}+c'\mathbf{v}',\mathbf{w}]=&c[\mathbf{v},\mathbf{w}]+c'[\mathbf{v}',\mathbf{w}],\\
[\mathbf{v},c\mathbf{w}+c'\mathbf{w}']=&c[\mathbf{v},\mathbf{w}]+c'[\mathbf{v},\mathbf{w}'],
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
In this code, [c\math...
@yo' -- well, that should work too. but usually {} is what's recommended. \relax is a primitive, not usually something that one tries to explain to a newbie.
@yo' -- allegedly, this is avoided by mathtools, but i haven't yet dug into how that works. (i agree about the \lbrack; there are times when that's useful, but it's hard to read, and if it's going to be used, \rbrack` should also be used, and they should be used everywhere, for consistency. not a pleasant prospect.)
@egreg well, I expect the bracket to be coded by [, that's all. It causes a feeling of assymetry to my OC alter-ego :)
@barbarabeeton I suppose mathtools either checks for spaces inbetween (strange) or for the two following characters being either t] or b], but this is just a guess...
@barbarabeeton I use the long variants basically only in \DeclarePairedDelimiter
@yo' -- well, i really do need to check. amsmath does check for a space between \\ and an opening bracket (this was put in quite early by michael downes), but i think there's a complicating difference in how optional arguments are checked for with environments vs. control sequences like \\ .
@yo' -- only once in a while. but one of my linguistics profs (henry kučera) was czech, and he instilled an appreciation for the usefulness of diacritics. (he also taught the only formal programming course i've ever been subjected to. he was also largely responsible for the "brown corpus", which i suspect @AlanMunn is probably familiar with. i keypunched some of the input for that.) the wikipedia article on henry isn't bad, although many of the dates are bogus.
@barbarabeeton Yes, Kučera is well known especially for creating one of the most widely used frequency counts of English (although I'm sure he did many other things as well.) [sorry, yes, basically what you said; it's been a long day...]
@AlanMunn -- he was really quite a splendid teacher. he's one of the main reasons that i went back to grad school in linguistics. (although i had no intention of pursuing it to a phd; if i ever have to write a cv, i'll list it under "hobbies".) the whole brown linguistics department was superb during the time i was there. (it took five years to get to an am; but i was also working full time at ams through the whole experience.)
@AlanMunn -- eclectic is good! (i also worked for a year at the brown computing lab, where henry was one of the "resident" non-computer-scientists thinking up interesting things other than mathematical or engineering computations to put the hardware to good use.)
@Johannes_B I saw the discussion about Plasmati Graduate CV (latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27156). The user used lualatex instead of xelatex, and for this the (curious) syntax \font\fb=''[cmr10]'' of the template won't work. He/she should change it to \font\fb=cmr10. (or to some call to a otf font.)
I want to write a macro that expands differently depending on the pattern following it. Specifically I want to use it to allow a more readable notation for quantum mechanical states, e.g.
% Non-working example
\def \m<#1| { \left\langle #1 \right|}
\def \m|#1> { \left| #1 \right\ran...
Our next interviewee:
Mico
Interview scheduled to Friday, February 26th, around 7:00PM UTC. Everybody is invited!
Lost with the UTC time? Click here to see the event time in your local timezone. :)
I try to improve the time pdflatex needs to compile my book.
Really working example
book.tex
%&preamble
\begin{document}
Hi
\end{document}
and
preamble.tex
\documentclass{article}
I run the following commands on bash console:
$ pdflatex -ini -jobname="preamble" "&pdflatex preamble.tex\d...
\begin{equation}
\begin{aligned}
[c\mathbf{v}+c'\mathbf{v}',\mathbf{w}]=&c[\mathbf{v},\mathbf{w}]+c'[\mathbf{v}',\mathbf{w}],\\
[\mathbf{v},c\mathbf{w}+c'\mathbf{w}']=&c[\mathbf{v},\mathbf{w}]+c'[\mathbf{v},\mathbf{w}'],
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
In this code, [c\math...
