@egreg :-)

@JosephWright I just saw in the CTAN announcement of greek-fontenc "\lccode/\uccode corrections for Unicode". greek-euenc.def now contains a long list of lccode/uccode settings.

@UlrikeFischer Thanks: I know I reported a few wrong'uns recently

@UlrikeFischer Checking c.t.t. now

@JosephWright OK. I simply wondered if greek-euenc.def is the correct place. I checked a few and they seemed to set the same values as unicode-letters.def.

@UlrikeFischer They may still be wrong looking at the announcement: I read all of them in xgreek and some are not really correct

Yay, congrats, your majesty!

@QueenElizabethTheSecond: Congrats!

@PauloCereda You're early

@JosephWright Oh no!

Wednesday?

@PauloCereda Yes

@JosephWright Cool.

Lovely weather: sitting in the garden

@JosephWright Wi-fi? :)

@PauloCereda Yes, just bought new power line based extender kit

@PauloCereda I'm really enjoying sending people pull requests on GitHub :-)

Not sure they are ...

@StefanKottwitz, @MartinScharrer Did my mail get to you both?

@PauloCereda Nice tour: gorgeous day!

@PauloCereda A bit cool up the mountains.

I did a military road built during World War I, above lake Garda, on Monte Baldo.

I see the L3 team added \exp:w for full expansion. This, however, is different from \romannumeral-`\Q (or \romannumeral-0, I don't know what exactly is it, I never used it explicitly). Why that difference? Why now \romannumeral is “enough”?

I defined some time ago something in this lines \let \exp:w \romannumeral \def \now:w { -`\Q } and then it had to be called like \exp:w\now:w. But now just \exp:w is enough?

@JosephWright I did noe get one

@JosephWright ah, found one

@JosephWright caught me between work and travel :-)

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to avoid the need of \pdfmapfile?

e.g. in my package or class file, or in the map doc

@barbarabeeton Did you have any chance yet to look at the template stuff?

@Johannes_B -- i have had some chance, but have not yet come to a firm conclusion. i am still struggling with the (unfortunately) widespread "belief" that document class = template. i can see some reasons behind that opinion, but strongly feel it is the wrong way to go; my struggle is at least partly with myself -- am i simply being stubborn? anyhow, tomorrow is a holiday here, and (as soon as i finish editing the tugboat proceedings issue) contemplation of templates is next on my list.

@barbarabeeton Take your time. No need to hurry :-)

@barbarabeeton The question of what a template is is unclear yet and needs to be specified. In the post i used my point of view of what i think templates are. This isn't fixed and open for discussion. I just didn't knew how to express that, that's mainly why i asked for your opinion. The question of how to get the text out there and how to actually discuss needs some attention as well. But TUGboat first.

@JosephWright Hi, no, I didn't got one. I checked just now.

There isn't one in my spam folder either

If someone has a spare vote, tex.stackexchange.com/a/266001/4427 could be removed from the unanswered list. (Note: I'm rep capped.)

@egreg: It's upvoted already ;-) But not by me ... and my god, you're rep capped? ;-)

@ChristianHupfer Yeah, sometimes it happens. :P

@egreg Anyway, another vote would give a Revival ... badge, wouldn't it? Oooops... ;-)

@ChristianHupfer I have 308 of them.

@egreg: Now one more ... I've got only one of them, because my answers to old questions are frozen still to 1 vote :-(

@ChristianHupfer Somebody (a duck, perhaps) should do something about that.

@egreg Such proceedings will be duckumented ;-) @PauloCereda (The Great Mysterious Duck)

@ChristianHupfer Revival badges are easy: leave a comment somewhere, wait until the next unanswered questions event and then reap the badges.

@UlrikeFischer Nobody noticed it so far ;-)

@UlrikeFischer You forget “wait for a ping from egreg"

Or @TorbjørnT., as well.

@egreg or Johannes, or ...

@UlrikeFischer: Did you get my mail with the images? ;-)

@UlrikeFischer You called?

@Manuel \exp:w = \romannumeral but with a defined expansion purpose. There's also now \exp_end_continue_f:w` = `^^@ ~ -`\Q

@Manuel You can\t avoid needing \exp:w\exp_end_continue_f:w for cases where the first token is hit by \exp_after:wN and must force expansion in one shot

@MartinScharrer I'll resend

@Manuel We are (once again) fixing inconsistencies in expl3: here we'd been using \tex_romannumeral:D rather too much for comfort, and a name reflecting the use was needed. Expect changes in the case changing area for the same reason.

@ChristianHupfer Yes. Thanks ;-)

@JosephWright been out all day, did I miss anything exciting?

@DavidCarlisle I was out all day too!

@DavidCarlisle No

@JosephWright phew:-)

@DavidCarlisle I've done a CTAN update, see request from CTAN re. dates

@JosephWright saw that:-)

@DavidCarlisle l3build has had some minor updates to support babel

@DavidCarlisle Any idea why \Ucharcat doesn't like catcode-13?

@DavidCarlisle I was cycling this morning :-)

@JosephWright and I changed \newluachunk -> \newluachunkname

@DavidCarlisle saw that:-)

@JosephWright No there wasn't really any discussion, it just got added on the back of a comment I made while failing to fix \Uchar's surrogate pair handling.

@JosephWright seems like a better name

@DavidCarlisle I'm happy: we are actually ahead of the feature requests, more or less :-)

@JosephWright seems that way.

So quiet.

@PauloCereda No quack.

@egreg Let me fix that. :)

Quaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack.

Does it echo? :)

@PauloCereda Yes! Did you have a good Sunday?

@egreg I did, thanks. :) I had fun with friends, and now I ate a banana cake. :) And how was your Sunday? :)

@PauloCereda Gorgeous tour: two new mountain roads!

@egreg Wow! How lovely! First time there?

@PauloCereda Yes. Quite crowded place, actually: it was a splendid day. But I did the narrow road when almost everybody was having lunch, so not much traffic. :)

@egreg Picnickers?

@PauloCereda Mostly. But also the restaurants were filled.

I just had ice-cream. :)

Good night!

@egreg oooh! :)

@egreg Buongiorno, pal! :)

Oh my, I meant buonanotte!

My Italian is awful!

@PauloCereda: Already in Buenos Aires?

@ChristianHupfer Oh I don't know if my paper got accepted yet. :) Only tomorrow. :)

@PauloCereda: Ah, a one-day-trip to Argentina?

@ChristianHupfer No, I will get a notification about my paper tomorrow. :) If it gets accepted, I will go in October. :)

@PauloCereda: I have misunderstood you apparently. I thought you would leave SP on Sep 7th

@ChristianHupfer Oh no worries. :)

@PauloCereda: Thumbs up for accepting then :D

@ChristianHupfer Si Señor Hupfer. <3

@PauloCereda Please sing Don't cry for me, Argentina, when you leave Buenos Aires in a few weeks then :-P

@ChristianHupfer You gotta be kidding me! :)

Is Madonna British, by the way? No she isn't.

@PauloCereda: American, with Italian background ;-)

@ChristianHupfer :)

@PauloCereda I would never always kidding you

@ChristianHupfer No llores por mi, Argentina!

@PauloCereda Excellente!!!

@ChristianHupfer Danke! :)

@PauloCereda Ah, das (!) Dankeschön :D

@ChristianHupfer Ja, und das böse Ente! <3

@PauloCereda das böse Ende or das böse Ente :-P