TeX, LaTeX and Friends

Paulo Cereda

12:00 AM

@AndrewCashner I'm terrified by the frog eye sallad one. :)

Andrew Cashner

@PauloCereda Have you seen Ricky Gervais's show "An Idiot Abroad" where they go to Brazil?

Paulo Cereda

@AndrewCashner No. :) I am afraid to ask what they do. :)

Andrew Cashner

@Paulo They take "your average working class bloke" and have him lodging with a cross-dresser, going to a gay beach, being in costume in the Carnaval parade, etc., just to make him uncomfortable.

Paulo Cereda

@AndrewCashner Oh my.

Andrew Cashner

@PauloCereda I think the frog eye thing is just a mixture of whipped cream, Jello, marshmellows, and maraschino cherries. I've had it but not by that name. Typical church dinner item.

Paulo Cereda

12:04 AM

@AndrewCashner aaaaaah!

Gentlemen, time for me to go up the wooden hill to Bedfordshire. :) Good night @AndrewCashner and friends! :)

Andrew Cashner

@Paulo Good night!

Paulo Cereda

8:18 AM

TikZ experts (@percusse, @DavidCarlisle, @Jake, and others): time for a revenge:

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Q: How do I draw a pair of buttocks?

I'm trying to develop a function which 3D plot would have a buttocks like shape. Several days of searching the web and a dozen my of own attempts to solve the issue have brought nothing but two pitiful formulas below. They have some resemblance to the shape I want, though not quite. Could you...

plotting

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda so I should do mathematica.stackexchange.com/a/66564 in picture mode?

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Please? :)

Paulo Cereda

8:56 AM

Drat, I'm out of votes. :)

Claudio Fiandrino

@PauloCereda: Your duck is preparing herself for christmas?

Paulo Cereda

@ClaudioFiandrino How do you like the ducky? :)

Paulo Cereda

9:22 AM

I've got a silly walk!

Claudio Fiandrino

@PauloCereda Yes.. almost.. Few things to prepare for my stay in Austin in two weeks than holidays :)

Paulo Cereda

@ClaudioFiandrino Texas?

Claudio Fiandrino

@PauloCereda Indeed! Globecom :)

Paulo Cereda

@ClaudioFiandrino ooh! :)

Claudio Fiandrino

@PauloCereda Let's hope will be fine.. not the trip.. the presentation of course

Paulo Cereda

9:31 AM

@ClaudioFiandrino beamer? :)

Claudio Fiandrino

@PauloCereda Already prepared that.. honestly the concern is about possible "questions" ;)

Paulo Cereda

@ClaudioFiandrino Kind sir, your question is quite important and relevant, but sadly I could answer it properly in this short timeframe... would you be so kind to send me an email so I can at last provide a convincing explanation for you?

Claudio Fiandrino

@PauloCereda Sounds good, thanks! Just hope to not use it ;)

Paulo Cereda

@ClaudioFiandrino <3

@Claudio: everything will work fine. :) Including the awesome beamer slides + picture mode. :P

Claudio Fiandrino

@PauloCereda Ops.. need to work on picture mode then

Right now I only have TikZ stuff..

Paulo Cereda

9:44 AM

@ClaudioFiandrino Use David's drawings and you are safe. :)

tohecz

Morning!

Paulo Cereda

9:58 AM

@tohecz Hi Tom!

tohecz

@PauloCereda how do you do? :)

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz In a hurry, as usual. :) You?

tohecz

@PauloCereda oh well, not so quite :) (It's 11am and I'm still having breakfast)

Needed to say, I'll likely be at work until 9pm today

Paulo Cereda

10:51 AM

lalalalalalalala

tohecz

11:03 AM

tohecz

11:14 AM

@PauloCereda ^^ so that the room is not so silent :)

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Yay!

Dell is charging me R$ 2.31 for a Ubuntu install. LOL

I need to save money for buying the NAG compiler.

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda :-)

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright It is an honour to have David in helpdesk. :)

tohecz

@PauloCereda wha?

Joseph Wright

11:30 AM

@tohecz Non-standard build so chargeable, I guess

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz I had to buy a new workstation. I got one from Dell and made sure they would sell me without Windows (they would charge a lot for license). They sold me a great machine with a Linux install. It was Ubuntu. Then I checked the invoice and they charged me for a Ubuntu install. :)

tohecz

@JosephWright ah ok

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright It was a standard build, but I believe they charge for the install procedure. :) If I had chosen a Windows install, they also would charge me for a license.

tohecz

@PauloCereda well, I paid € 120 for getting my computer set up properly as dual-boot, I decided so after I spent 2 weeks trying to do that myself.

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Oh my.

Joseph Wright

11:32 AM

@tohecz Sounds odd: nowadays it's usually straight-forward

@tohecz Or were you using LILO?

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright wow, it's been a while since I last heard about LILO. :)

tohecz

@JosephWright it's not, with the new EFI stuff

Joseph Wright

@tohecz Ah, yes EFI is more tricky

Paulo Cereda

The last time was Lilo and Stitch. :P

Fubá is sick. :(

tohecz

@JosephWright so I paid a company, told them my preferred username, that I want the latest Fedora stable in English and at least 50GB for linux / partition and 400 GB for /home and that I prefer Toshiba. I got the proposal in couple days and the computer in a bit more than a week. And I'm happy since then

@PauloCereda who?

Paulo Cereda

11:35 AM

@tohecz My white cat.

tohecz

@PauloCereda ah

more milk, you need more milk. And some canaries, too :)

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz ooh!

egreg

11:56 AM

@PauloCereda Turn on the Internet radio and let him listen to the adagio from Mozart's clarinet concerto.

Joseph Wright

@egreg Who's playing?

egreg

@JosephWright Old recording with Alfred Prinz; Karl Böhm conducts the Wiener Philharmoniker.

Joseph Wright

@egreg Ah

egreg

@JosephWright 1974

@JosephWright One of the best pieces in the history of music.

Joseph Wright

@egreg Yes

@egreg I love playing it, although of course I don't have the technique to do it justice

@egreg (I only have a B-flat instrument, not an A and certainly not a basset clarinet, so of course it's not ideal anyway)

Paulo Cereda

12:03 PM

@egreg :)

egreg

@JosephWright And the Wiener Philharmoniker to back you up. ;-)

Joseph Wright

@egreg :-)

Paulo Cereda

@egreg hmmm wienerschnitzel. :)

tohecz

@PauloCereda hey, this is not fair! I haven't had it for 2 months and it's still 3 weeks to go!

egreg

@tohecz No Austrian restaurant in Paris?

Paulo Cereda

12:15 PM

@tohecz Oh no!

@egreg And I thought it was German... :(

egreg

@PauloCereda Wiener!

Paulo Cereda

@egreg ooooh!

Das ist sehr komplicated. :)

egreg

@PauloCereda Knowing that Vienna is in Austria? Well, we had Austrian domination for almost 70 years here (1797-1866), so we learn it at school. :)

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Boo. :)

@egreg: oh no, now I want wienerschnitzel!

David Carlisle

12:31 PM

@PauloCereda it's not proper fish and chips: the batter is made of breadcrumbs and the fish is made of pork (or veal if you're posh):(

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh some weird fish they have. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda Probably lack of a coast that does it.

egreg

@DavidCarlisle They have the Blau Donau

Paulo Cereda

12:56 PM

0

Q: How to include a .TeX file generated from .Rnw file into a .TeX file which is child of parent .TeX file?

I really need help. Here is the problem: I'm writing my dissertation using a LaTeX template (http://www.latextemplates.com/template/masters-doctoral-thesis). The template is a parent file with multiple chapters as children. For some of the chapters, I want to include objects and output from R, w...

r knitr

How to include <blank> generated from <blank> into <blank> where <blank> is a <blank> of <blank>?

Wow.

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda I'm good at translation. It translates as missing \makeatletter

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle WOW!

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda ignore what OP says, see what tex says which was you can't use '\spacefactor' which means in latex you can't use \@ which 99.99999% of the time means you were trying to use \@zzzz but forgot \makeatletter

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle :)

Johannes_B

1:41 PM

@DavidCarlisle Sounds familiar? latex-community.org/forum/…

tohecz

@egreg there probably are, but the best schintzel is only at Apt. 7 of [fill in my Mom's address]

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B I answered that here the other day:-) I see you have some user known as josephwright using that site at the moment

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle He is a mod there as well ;-)

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Q: MikTeX error: Invalid control sequence

I've recently installed MikTeX 2.9 for Windows 7, 64. After installation I try to compile an IEEE template downloaded from their website. I get the following error: miktex-pdftex.exe: Invalid control sequence. I've tried many things I've read online but nothing seems to work. Any ideas? Thanks

errors miktex

Joseph Wright

@Johannes_B Indeed, though I perhaps don't give it the time I might

Johannes_B

@JosephWright There is still me ;-)

Johannes_B

2:07 PM

@DavidCarlisle Where do you think the problem is located? Did MikTeX get corrupted (by an update or itself) or is the cause on the OS side?

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B I have no idea; never seen miktex, i just googled for the error message and hit the earlier question.

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle The same way here, but i found the Q on tex.se :-)

@DavidCarlisle My only duggestion would be to use texlive instead.

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B cygwin version:-)

David Carlisle

2:34 PM

@egreg (enumerate+1) I gave up trying to work out what the intention was:-)

egreg

2:46 PM

@DavidCarlisle That user has a fancy for xargs and for overcomplicated code.

egreg

3:10 PM

@HarishKumar It's apparent you know nothing about snow. :)

Wah snow flakes! — Harish Kumar 1 hour ago

David Carlisle

@egreg or he can't count to 6:-)

tohecz

@DavidCarlisle not all snowflakes have 6 arms. All of them, however, follow a hexagonal scheme

David Carlisle

@tohecz true but that one has 8:-)

tohecz

3:25 PM

@DavidCarlisle maybe it's 4D

Iplodman

5:01 PM

Heya/Oi!

egreg

@Iplodman Hi!

Iplodman

How's your day going/Tudo bem? ;P

tohecz

@egreg -1 for answering the question that should have been asked :P

egreg

@tohecz :)

@tohecz But the question is titled “Alternatives to \paragraph”

tohecz

@egreg yeah I know

egreg

5:08 PM

@Iplodman Very well, weren't from workers lurking in my room.

Iplodman

@egreg Sorry to hear it ;P

egreg

@Iplodman Working on the front of my building. The scaffolding reached my window yesterday.

Iplodman

Oh lord.

Spoiled the view, have they? :L

egreg

@Iplodman Quite so.

Iplodman

That sucks.

tohecz

5:13 PM

@egreg when the fasade was being repaired at my parents' place, I used to play the workers some piano :)

egreg

@tohecz Low temperature: must keep the window closed.

Johannes_B

@egreg What is the temperature down south at your place?

egreg

@Johannes_B We're at 9, presently.

Johannes_B

@egreg Chilly.

egreg

@Johannes_B For my standards it's freezing.

David Carlisle

5:19 PM

@egreg you should invite @PauloCereda, he'd like that.

Johannes_B

We have \SI{1}{\celsius}

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Sure thing!

David Carlisle

@egreg Physics clearly not your strongest subject

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle As the KV expert, wanna give an alternative solution?

0

Q: Use komavar outside scrlttr2

I'm deriving my own class from scrartcl but wan to introduce variables as in scrlttr2 for the user of the class to set several values. I find the \setkomavar resp. \usekomavar mechanism with key, value and description quite convenient. Is there any way of using komavars if I'm not using the scrl...

koma-script

tohecz

@egreg well, it's colder than Paris then :)

David Carlisle

5:22 PM

@Johannes_B I have no idea what the original does, never really looked at the koma classes:-)

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle Did you at least what the OP wants? I asked for an example of his solution hoping to get enlightened ... The answer is (for me) just as unclear as the question.

egreg

@DavidCarlisle My freezing point is 9.96 degrees, accurately measured.

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle brrrrrrr

David Carlisle

6:16 PM

@Johannes_B same here:-)

Joseph Wright

6:26 PM

@DavidCarlisle Potential bug report for xspace :-)

David Carlisle

@JosephWright where?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle See team list

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{csquotes}
\MakeAutoQuote{<}{>}
\usepackage{xspace}
\begin{document}
a\xspace <test>
\end{document}

David Carlisle

@JosephWright got it. \protected hmm bit modern for xspace;-) I suppose I should have a look. The package in my head is always the original version not Morten's extended one....

tohecz

6:47 PM

News from Teh Main Meeta:

29

Q: Profile Page Makeover, Part 3: the Prototype returns

You may recall this thing - our profile page makeover prototype, the reloaded user page. We posted a prototype 6 months ago and got a lot of feedback. Since then, generations of dinosaurs were born, fell in love, had families and were eventually killed by a comet. Or climate change, or maybe tex...

discussion featured profile-page feedback

egreg

@tohecz Aaaargh!

tohecz

@egreg (sorry, I didn't indent to ping you. I've ruined your evening, haven't I? :D )

tohecz

7:02 PM

BUG FOUND!!! I offer free beer to everybody! :)

^^ @Paulo :)

David Carlisle

@JosephWright so Morten tests if a token is expandable with \expandafter\ifx\noexpand\@let@token\@let@token% which seems a bit sneaky, but it says \protected\def tokens are expandable....

Paulo Cereda

7:28 PM

@tohecz ooooooh

Christian Hupfer

7:41 PM

Good maen

percusse

@egreg exactly my feelings

tohecz

@percusse well, to make things even worse (you'll like this one since you're a known rep-hunter):

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Q: What is "People helped" and why does it exist at all?

I wonder what is "People helped" (PH) stat supposed to signify. From what I read in Profile Page Makeover, Part 3: the Prototype returns, it stands for cumulative number of views on some (all) of my posts. I would like to know why we consider views as such a significant thing to put it on the ver...

discussion reputation profile-page views

percusse

@tohecz Give me any random statistics about any detail of any profile and I can make an equivalently bullshit quasi-good-will excuse.

tohecz

@percusse answer my question with this ;)

percusse

My suggestion is to count how many people hovered over your nickname. It shows how people truly memorized your nickname to reach you whenever they needed.

tohecz

7:49 PM

@percusse oh what a great idea!

percusse

@tohecz Check this one out. I'm trying to incorporate some of those to my toolbox

nbviewer.ipython.org/gist/msund/11349097

The last ones are the best ones.

hover over the plots

tohecz

I'm quite lacking some memory now (doing heavy computation)

percusse

ah then it might not fly

tohecz

@percusse well it works, and it looks quite impressive. But I think I'm happy I don't need any such fancy stuff :)

percusse

@tohecz You would complain if you started with these things when you don't have it on other system :P

tohecz

8:02 PM

@percusse I think I lost you :)

percusse

@tohecz Nevermind. Snarky comment :)

tohecz

@percusse ok :)

Christian Hupfer

10:09 PM

Not much activity in here :-( Have a nice time :D

tohecz

10:31 PM

@ChristianHupfer not really

Harish Kumar

10:42 PM

@egreg: For me, every thing that looks like that is a snowflake! ;)

egreg

@HarishKumar Have you ever seen real snow?

Harish Kumar

@egreg Nope! :(

Wait, in photos ;)

egreg

@HarishKumar Too bad!

Harish Kumar

@egreg Indeed. But I don't think I will survive if I see. So it is better not to see :)

@egreg What I have seen is rain, rain rain and lots of it. :)

egreg

@HarishKumar It's not so terrible, after all. Rain can be much worse!

@HarishKumar This is a photo taken in 1956

Quite unusual for Rome.

Harish Kumar

10:52 PM

@egreg But I like rain. We used to get 4 months of solid rain in my native place. But here in Pondicherry it is less. But we do get cyclones here that bring rain.

@egreg That looks nice. But what I don't like is the low temperature!

egreg

@HarishKumar Neither do I. :)

Harish Kumar

@egreg Long ago, when I was a student of high school, I went to Kashmir for a camp for 15 days. And New Delhi in the month of Jan and Feb. After that I started disliking very low temperatures. It was literally hell.

egreg

@HarishKumar I guess that Kashmir can be really cold!

Harish Kumar

@egreg I swear, it is!

egreg

@HarishKumar We don't have very low temperatures here, normally. Some night can be below zero during winter. There are exceptions though: I remember once I had to go to the school I teached at with my moped and we were at –12 in the morning. Brrr!

Harish Kumar

11:08 PM

@egreg Travelling on a moped at -12! Ah! that is what I was talking about :)

egreg

@HarishKumar Not really funny!

Harish Kumar

@egreg Not at all. If I were to do that I would be dead instantly.

Yesterday, I went by scooter to work. And scooter was moving randomly because I was shivering!

BTW it is winter + rainy here.

egreg

@HarishKumar What do you mean by “winter”? Temperature around 20?

Harish Kumar