TeX, LaTeX and Friends - 2012-05-04 (page 2 of 2)

user19161

9:00 PM

@FaheemMitha I use FF, because Chrome and variants cannot not save history.

knut

@FaheemMitha ;)

Faheem Mitha

@JasperLoy They don't?

@egreg I assume Twain was exaggerating. Does German really have separable verbs?

Negin

Yes it is . tnx

user19161

@Negin I am not in touch with worldly affairs. So who prevents you from accessing the site, your government or other governments?

user19161

@FaheemMitha There may be add-ons to help you do that, but otherwise history must be saved though you can delete it later.

egreg

9:04 PM

@FaheemMitha I'm afraid it has. :) Maybe @StephanLehmke can tell more.

user19161

For a long English word that is non-technical, how about floccinaucinihilipilification?

Faheem Mitha

@JasperLoy I think it is saved by default. I go to chrome://history/

user19161

@FaheemMitha Yes, I never tell lies. :-)

Faheem Mitha

@egreg Interesting. But all the Germans I've met don't seem noticeably crazier than anyone else, so they must survive it somehow.

@JasperLoy Ah, I missed your double negative. "cannot not", and was confused.

I would have grasped this more easily if you had said "always".

egreg

@FaheemMitha A colleague of mine, when she had to go to university, chose to go in Germany!

She eventually married a German and she speaks fluently the language.

Faheem Mitha

9:08 PM

I must say, I've never got the point of giving sex/gender to things that don't have it. In languages, that is.

@egreg Oh, I'm sure there are lots of plus points to Germany. I'm an admirer myself. Though I don't know any German.

knut

@FaheemMitha @egreg It's like in English. To pick up is abholen in German. In a sentence: 'ich hole jemand ab' (I pick somebody up). It's a word to word translation ;)))

egreg

@FaheemMitha We have gender in Italian, but only two: we miss the neuter. So a hand is feminine, but an arm is masculine. However, arms (plural) are feminine. :)

Faheem Mitha

Score one for English, which doesn't do that. Yay.

But all Indian languages do that, for example. And the Romance languages.

Negin

@ Jasper Actually the mathwork website itself prevents Iranian users to access the website and I have no idea why they do it !

egreg

@FaheemMitha However, notice that hand is "mano", which has a usually masculine termination. But is feminine. Also egg is masculine and eggs are feminine.

Faheem Mitha

9:11 PM

@egreg Well, this sort of stuff makes zero sense to me. Suppose I was to unilaterally decide hands were masculine?

egreg

@FaheemMitha That comes from Latin, where everything had a gender (also neuter). Trees in Latin are usually feminine, for instance.

Faheem Mitha

@egreg For extra fun, they should decide men are feminine, and women masculine.

Stephan Lehmke

@knut Then there's Michael Ende's "Zungenbrechergeschichte". I didn't find a nice online resource, but it's worth googling for grey meterial, because it has the word "schlappersteppenstoppeltrappergrippenkuppeltreppenlappensuppenseppelkappenschüp‌pelschnippelmappenschuppenrappeldoppelrüpeltruppenknüppelhoppelgruppenlippenplapp‌erzappelpuppenklappenschnuppe" in it ;-)

Mien

It's the same in Dutch, but not as important. We only have the difference between neuter and female/male.

knut

In German girls are neuter.

Mien

9:13 PM

:D

Faheem Mitha

@egreg Ok, I see. Fine, it's all the fault of the wicked Romans. Down with imperialism!

Mien

True.

In Dutch as well.

Faheem Mitha

@knut :-)

egreg

@FaheemMitha We have! A sentry is feminine also if he's a man: "la guardia" or "la sentinella".

Faheem Mitha

@egreg Nice. And people cope with this? Think of how much extra space they would have in their brains if they didn't have to fill it with all this stuff!

egreg

9:15 PM

@FaheemMitha That's why Italians are smarter. :)

Faheem Mitha

Ok, random link. Getting a phd sucks

@egreg And better looking too.

I can post links too.

tohecz

Speaking about languages: In Czech we have 4 sexes: neutral, female, male alive, male non-alive

Faheem Mitha

"In the German it is true that by some oversight of the inventor of the language, a Woman is a female;"

rotfl

@tohecz People like to make things complicated.

egreg

@tohecz And also three numbers: one, two and many.

tohecz

yes, you have 14 patterns for nouns (with approx. 6 more sub-patterns)

user19161

9:19 PM

Wow this has become the linguistics chat room!

tohecz

@egreg we have a dual form, but only for "naturally paired things, mostly body parts"

Stephan Lehmke

@egreg Well if there's no way it can be a german word, then any random sequence of characters (Chaplin style) would do, wouldn't it?

@JasperLoy At least it's neither soccer nor cricket for once ;-)

user19161

Oh the longest word in English though it is a technical one is pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.

tohecz

for example you have different plural for "ears" - one for "ears as body parts" and other one for "ears = cup handles"

Mien

@tohecz But is the word 'ear' the same in both meanings?

tohecz

9:21 PM

yes, the singular form is the same

its "ucho" sg., "uši" dual, "ucha" pl.

Mien

Strange :) You're Czech?

tohecz

@Mien yep

egreg

@StephanLehmke It's a correctly formed word, but has no real meaning, that's the point. In mathematical logic every correctly formed word (in the formal language) has a meaning.

Stephan Lehmke

@egreg Thats what I meant. It's not correctly formed.

tohecz

I tell you: Czech language is nice, it sounds well, but never ever learn it unless you have a really really really good reason for that

egreg

9:23 PM

@StephanLehmke Really?

tohecz

we have 7 cases for nouns, advejtives and pronouns

Mien

I was there once.

The only Czech word I know is pivo, I think.

tohecz

@Mien how typical! :)

Mien

What can I say?

user19161

What is the meaning of pivo?

Mien

9:24 PM

Beer

tohecz

@JasperLoy Beer

user19161

OMG!

user19161

I don't drink beer.

Mien

Are you ill?

egreg

@Mien I also know "muzy" and "ženy", which are very important words in certain situations.

user19161

9:25 PM

@Mien Yes, but that's not the reason I don't drink beer.

tohecz

lol, "muži" is correct

Mien

@egreg What do those mean? "Muzy" rings a bell.

But it was 5 years ago since I was there, so ..

tohecz

its "gents" and "ladies" when you write it e.g. on the restrooms

Mien

@JasperLoy What is the reason then, if I may know?

@tohecz Ah, quite important indeed!

egreg

@tohecz Oh, thanks. The situation I meant is strictly connected with beer, of course.

user19161

9:26 PM

@Mien I just don't like the taste. Wine is fine.

Mien

Ok.

user19161

I only drink water and ... tea.

tohecz

@Mien I might surprise you, but I don't drink beer either

Mien

Tsssk.

What kind of men are you?

user19161

Tea is a very interesting word. Arrange it and you get ate and eat.

egreg

9:27 PM

@tohecz The first time I saw the words I had to wait for somebody coming out from one of the doors, to know which one to go in. :)

tohecz

@egreg I know what you mean ;)

Mien

@JasperLoy eta, tae

user19161

@Mien You have assumed we are men. Some of us here are women you know.

Mien

@JasperLoy Oh, who is?

user19161

@Mien I don't know.

Stephan Lehmke

9:28 PM

@egreg I don't think there is a rendering or dialect of german where the words "Constantinopolitanischer" and "Dudelsackspfeifenmachersgesellschaft" could be combined into one. Furthermore, I would say "Dudelsackpfeifenmachergesellschaft" but there may be regional differences to that.

Mien

You all (except Jasper) have such neuter names.

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright: can I ask a favour? :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Of course

user19161

@Mien Neuter? You mean mine is not?

Mien

@JasperLoy Your name is male (I hope :p)

Paulo Cereda

9:29 PM

@JosephWright I wrote a quick blog post, could you please take a look when you have time? :)

Mien

At least, it's a male name here.

user19161

Well OK some names are exclusively male and some exclusively female and some both, but in practice there is no stopping anyone from having any name.

Faheem Mitha

@JasperLoy I don't care for the taste either.

Mien

@JasperLoy True, but I find it awkward when I meet a man with a girls name.

user19161

Also on SE people use fake names all the time.

Stephan Lehmke

9:30 PM

@egreg Still off. It would need to be "Constantinopolitanische" and "Dudelsackspfeifenmachersgesellschaft" to be even remotely correct...

Mien

@JasperLoy So you're a girl?

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Looks fine

user19161

@Mien I leave you to figure out...

tohecz

well, considering Czech language, we have few special consonants that nobody is able to pronounce (actually, I don't pronounce them properly)

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Can I publish it?

Mien

9:31 PM

@JasperLoy I hate being curious :(

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Fine with me

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Thanks. :)

Mien

@JasperLoy I'm sure you're male.

I used the internet and the internet is always right!

egreg

@tohecz I love the "př" combination.

Paulo Cereda

new blog post! :)

Stack Exchange TeX Blog: Using sprite sheets with LaTeX

Paulo Cereda on May 04, 2012

Sprite sheet is the name of a big image containing several smaller images or icons. It’s a technique usually employed by webdesigners to reduce the number of requests the browser makes to the server – reducing the number of HTTP requests can make a Web page load much faster. It’s also used a lot in animation engines.

I was wondering if I could use a sprite sheet in a LaTeX document, so I got a sample image from the Tango Desktop Project and mapped it:

All icons are placed in a big image, like a matrix, and the size is fixed at 24px × 24px per icon. How can I select one of the icons f …

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user19161

9:32 PM

@Mien There are many people in the world with my name.

tohecz

@ergeg well, "ř" is the trouble maker

Faheem Mitha

So, lots of academics here. How many think doing a phd is/was a waste of time?

Mien

@JasperLoy Okay :( I guess I'll never know

user19161

@Mien Yeah but you may find out if you hang around long enough on SE. :-)

Mien

@FaheemMitha Good question. I'm interested. I might start mine in 1.5 years.

@JasperLoy You're pure evil.

tohecz

9:34 PM

as well, we distinguish "h" and "ch" -- one is like "H" in English "hedge", the other one is like "J" in Spanish "Juan"

user19161

@PauloCereda Congrats! Here's a beer for you!

tohecz

both are stupid, especially if your name starts with "H" and you have a lot of French friends...

Faheem Mitha

@Mien There was this link I posted. economist.com/node/17723223

tohecz

@FaheemMitha Not raising hand. I'm starting my PhD in 2 months and I look forwards to it

Mien

@FaheemMitha Yes, I've seen your link. But the article is a bit too long to read now.

egreg

9:36 PM

@PauloCereda I'm not sure about the usage of px: its value is not fixed and can be changed on a document's basis. The default value is 1px = 1bp

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Martin warned me about it right now. :(

Faheem Mitha

@tohecz Subject?

tohecz

@FaheemMitha You really dont want to know. Representations of real and complex numbers, parallel addition

user19161

@PauloCereda Those icons look like GNOME shell.

user19161

@tohecz What's representation of a number? Are you talking about mathematical representation theory?

Faheem Mitha

9:39 PM

@tohecz CS or math?

tohecz

@FaheemMitha very good question. Isn't CS part of math?

Faheem Mitha

@tohecz Yikes, you've got your thesis topic already decided?

tohecz

well, I'm working on that topic for over a year now

I do my Masters thesis on a related yet different topic

egreg

@tohecz Do you go to the math department in Křižíkova?

Faheem Mitha

@tohecz Not really.

tohecz

9:40 PM

@egreg Yes I do, my Maters thesis opponent is a PhD student there

Paulo Cereda

@JasperLoy They are, I guess. :)

user19161

So @toh care to share what "representation of real and complex numbers" is?

tohecz

@FaheemMitha in that case, I do math

egreg

@tohecz I've been there some times.

tohecz

representation of 1/2 is e.g. 0.5

Faheem Mitha

9:41 PM

@tohecz Ok.

tohecz

or 0.499999999999999999999999999...

but that's when you take 10 as your base

user19161

@tohecz Ah OK so nothing to do with group representation theory.

tohecz

you can take something else

knut

@tohecz but only for small 1

tohecz

@JasperLoy exactly

you can take e.g. pi, the golden ratio, -4/3 or even 1-i

it has really interesting properties in some cases

@knut I did not get what you mean...

Paulo Cereda

9:44 PM

Friends, I corrected my text since clip/trim is provided by \includegraphics. And I added the use of \adjustimage. :)

knut

1/2 = 0.499999999999999999, but only for small 1

tohecz

you notice the ellipsis in the end?

Paulo Cereda

1/2 = half a cake. Win. :)

tohecz

and actually, is the notation 0.50000000000000000000000000... shorter than 0.4999999999999... ?

user19161

1/2 means 1 or 2, so 1/2=1.5. QED.

tohecz

9:45 PM

whatever :-/ ;-)

@egreg whom have you visited at Křižíkova?

egreg

@tohecz Prof. Trlifaj

tohecz

@egreg oh quite a math celebrity in Czech Rep.

egreg

@tohecz Oh, yes, he is.

tohecz

my supervisor shares an office with his daughter

(well, one of my supervisors)

@ALL: Please, which auxiliary file stores the information for hyperref ?

is it .aux or some else?

knut

out?

egreg

9:55 PM

@tohecz Usually .aux, but also .out if you don't use the package bookmark. Load it (after hyperref), it's better.

tohecz

@knut @egreg Thanks. Related to How to reset chapter and section counter with \part

Paulo Cereda

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Q: Why do the Jedi say "May the Force be with you"?

May the Force be with you is the catch phrase of Star-Wars, but does it make any sense? Obi-Wan himself explains the force like this: LUKE: The Force? BEN: Well, the Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates...

user19161

@PauloCereda I hate Star Wars!

Paulo Cereda

@JasperLoy The first three movies were very nice. But the last three ones... :)

user19161

@PauloCereda Yeah, hmm actually the last three ones are the first three ones. :-)

Paulo Cereda

10:05 PM

@JasperLoy Ah yes. :)

Faheem Mitha

No idea what people see in those movies.

user19161

I like the first three Twilight movies, but won't watch the fourth and fifth.

tohecz

well, friends, good night

user19161

@tohecz Good night!

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Good night! :)

user19161

10:12 PM

@PauloCereda Oh no, I only had an exclamation mark. You had an exclamation mark and a smile, so you win!

Paulo Cereda

@JasperLoy Oops. :)

Werner

@PauloCereda: I was just looking at the Tango icons for this question:

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Q: Are there (semi) standard symbols for SAVE, RUN, etc in TeX?

Is there a font package to represent typical computer commands such as Save, Run, Refresh, etc?

fonts symbols

Paulo Cereda

@Werner It's a great idea! :)

Werner

You should write that up as an answer, even though it's perhaps not "standard"...

Gonzalo Medina

Hi, everyone!

Paulo Cereda

10:21 PM

@Werner I was eager to, but the OP seems to be looking for a font. :(

Hi @Gonzalo!

Werner

@PauloCereda I see... :(

user19161

@GonzaloMedina Hi! I remember xport once pinged you as @medina on the main site and I had to tell xport it would not work. :-)

Gonzalo Medina

@JasperLoy Wouldn't? Some users have used @Medina and it works.

user19161

@GonzaloMedina Maybe because they commented directly to your post, so that the @ wasn't even necessary?

user19161

Or maybe you commented to their post and then they commented without anyone else there.

Gonzalo Medina

10:28 PM

@JasperLoy Ah, yes, most probably that's what happened.

user19161

@GonzaloMedina There is a whole post on MSE on this, let me find it.

user19161

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Q: How do comment @replies work?

How do I respond to a specific user when entering my comment? Will they be notified? Related: How do I view my recent replies? Return to the FAQ index

support faq comments notifications comment-replies

Gonzalo Medina

@JasperLoy Seems a very comprehensive description of @... Perhaps I'll read it sometime.

percusse

@PauloCereda You did it again, didn't you? Great blog post :) Ultimate Procrastination. Pass the image from png2tikz and declare it at the beginning of the file and done, eheh!

Paulo Cereda

@percusse Awww thanks! :) It was a very humble blog post, but it was very funny to write it. :)

user19161

10:36 PM

@pau Who is your next interview target?

user19161

Oh I remember it was supposed to be Andrew.

Paulo Cereda

@JasperLoy Andrew is our next victim... er I mean, interviewee. :)

percusse

@PauloCereda When is your turn? I want that monologue on my table tomorrow morning!

user19161

@percusse I was about to ask him. You beat me by a few seconds.

Gonzalo Medina

@PauloCereda Is there a date for the interview?

percusse

10:40 PM

@JasperLoy You know the phrase speak first, think later ? I love the modern times:)

Paulo Cereda

@percusse It might take a while. Everybody else - including you! - has to be interviewed before me. :)

@GonzaloMedina Actually no. But we can ask @AndrewStacey. :)

user19161

@PauloCereda He is partying now probably.

percusse

Here is my interview:
- How did you learn LaTeX ?
- I didn't
- Thank you
- My pleasure

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Paulo Cereda

@percusse LOL

Mine is similar:
- How did you learn LaTeX ?
- I didn't
- So why are you here?!
- I'm here for the lulz. :P
- Thank you
- My pleasure

user19161

@percusse Because he learned plain TeX instead?

user19161

10:43 PM

@PauloCereda Oh I think that is me!

percusse

@PauloCereda See, I can't even have the middle part :)

Paulo Cereda

@percusse :P

We could interview @DavidCarlisle again. /ducks

percusse

@PauloCereda Can you scribble something for the question? OP directs to your blogpost anyway.

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Q: Are there (semi) standard symbols for SAVE, RUN, etc in TeX?

Is there a font package to represent typical computer commands such as Save, Run, Refresh, etc?

fonts symbols

Paulo Cereda

@percusse I'll think of something. :)

percusse

11:07 PM

I think this one is too localized. There is no problem with the code except the obsolote snakes library...

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Q: Why slash will appear in the upper left corner?

\documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{article} \usepackage{tikz,pgf} \usetikzlibrary{arrows,snakes,calc} \def\pai{3.1416} \begin{document} \begin{figure} \begin{tikzpicture}[>=stealth,scale=1.2] \draw[->] (-0.2,0)--(2.1*\pai,0) node[anchor=north east] {\scriptsize $x$}; \draw[->] (0,-2...

tikz-pgf

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda well you could, but I just got a new machine from work, so (for once, and for a while) I'm a real windows user no tex no emacs no nothing, well I've installed firefox nightly so I don't have to use IE to download emacs:-)

yeh emacs arrived, I'm human again

user19161

@DavidCarlisle Firefox nightly? That's adventurous!

Stefan Kottwitz

@percusse I agree, closed with three votes.

percusse

@StefanKottwitz Thank you

David Carlisle

@JasperLoy been my default browser for a year or so (on the old machine I had chrome dev channel an an opera labs alpha and IE 10 as well, I like to live on the edge:-)

user19161

11:12 PM

Should we also close the meta question as off topic?

user19161

0

Q: Warning!Virus detection on Java Script

According to Avira Internet Security the wmd.js has the following "[DETECTION] Contains recognition pattern of the HTML/Rce.Gen3 HTML script virus." Can anyone tell my why this is poping out on my computer?

bug

Stefan Kottwitz

@JasperLoy I asked azetina for clarification, perhaps it will be closed - belongs to meta.so and a duplicate, it seems.

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