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12:00 AM
@daviesgeek sweet - let me wrap up a task
 
@bmike Ok!
 
12:19 AM
Anyone here know LDAP servers and non-default port setup for iOS? We have a new user here with a good question that came from SuperUser yesterday.
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Q: Can you connect iPhone to LDAP on a non-standard port?

datatooIn a nutshell, I believe I'm having issues configuring iOS to connect to LDAP on a non-standard port. I've tried a quite a few different sequences, such as appending the port to the server address, but all to no avail. Has anyone been able to connect to an LDAP that runs on a different port than...

 
Sorry. I'm poking around the cryptic /.Spotlight-V100/ directory in the hope of uncovering where the Date Added field comes from.
We're awash in good questions.
 
12:37 AM
Does anyone have a problem on Ask Different with hovering? I can't seem to hover on stuff, esp. in chat.
 
@daviesgeek Chat had a burp system wide - my understanding is some code changes had unintended consequences so they disabled some items temporarily
I'd say take an aspirin and worry about it in the morning.
 
Ok. I also have a problem with hovering over my username.
Never mind. It works now.
And now it doesn't....
I'll just leave it alone. If it persists, I'll talk to someone.
 
@daviesgeek You can ask on the main meta if it's something you want to call attention to the site operators. You might be able to help them with an older system if your browser is not Lion and you can reproduce an issue in chat. You might restart to be sure it's not some safari memory issue before posting just to be sure it's reproducible.
 
I am using Google Chrome beta and Lion, so it may just be Chrome.
Again, I'll just come back and see if it's fixed later.
 
 
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2:09 AM
Woah - atomic scale transistors. Like one atom, scale. Blows my mind even knowing it probably won't pan out for real use in decades or more.
 
Wow. That's impressive...
 
 
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5:19 AM
@TimothyMuellerHarder Was this curiosity, or is there something in particular you're looking for? If you have a problem to solve here, we can work on this, edit it, and reopen.
 
6:15 AM
@bmike That is crazy cool!
 
6:34 AM
Hi @daviesgeek
Thanks for the great comments you posted today.
Good job keeping the site in order.
 
 
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12:05 PM
Jason Salaz on February 20, 2012

Zynga’s hit Hangman and Scrabble fusion ‘Hanging With Friends’ updated with a new feature! From their version 4.14 update notes:

Hanging With Friends now has Missions! Level your way through over 100 missions that test your Hanging skills, and rescue the Princess! On the way earn coins and unlock exclusive content.

No longer do you simply play an asynchronous game of Hangman, but now you can coerce your play habits into accomplishing missions at the same time! The princess won’t save herself, you know. All of this on the heels of the introduction of micro-transactions int …

 
 
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4:25 PM
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A: Despite the general rule to not answer questions about beta products, should we allow Messages on OSX and Siri on iPhone 4S questions?

Kyle CroninIn my opinion, Messages and especially Siri are pre-release/beta software in name only, much like GMail was for years and years while millions of people relied on it. So I'd say yes, that Messages and Siri should be allowed as questions. However, I fully recognize the difficulty in applying the ...

it surprises me that 17 people have visited meta since Thursday
 
@KyleCronin Not only visited, but voted! I'm really for more voting.
 
4:41 PM
Now if only they'd visit the blog chat. No feedback on my article so later today I'm going to do a final proofread and toss it into the pending que.
 
4:57 PM
I don't know if there are even 17 people registered on the blog.
certainly not that many people that can look at drafts
 
Jaberg - I can't even see your (or any) draft items
I tried to read them all.
 
Seth Rogers on February 20, 2012

This week the Apple universe is filled with hints about an impending iPad 3 announcement, speculation around what incredible product developments are next, and serene celebrations of Steve Jobs’ birthday. Needless to say, it’s an exciting time for Apple and Ask Different.

In our own corner of the Apple world, we want to honor you, the community, who dare to take a deeper look. Apple users around the universe continue to resolve their inquiries by referring to the comprehensive body of knowledge you are creating here. We thank you on our behalf and theirs. …

 
and then there's that
 
I've put my own draft up also, and eventually pended it. I saw you edited it, but I have no idea what changes you made.
That's why I queried the blog workflow the other day. using Chat seems like hard work
 
<-- ?
I haven't touched any posts to the best of my memory.
Any post other than my own, of course.
 
5:08 PM
Sorry, where you = @Jaberg....
 
I don't get it, viber is 100% free but when I dial a contact via the internet, it can't be free ..
That's really something.
'Ello @all, BTW.
 
@JasonSalaz A great way to throw out my unanswered questions to my adoring (read: tech-illiterate) public... ;)
 
@jaberg Thanks for mentioning the draft. I looked it over and it looks quite nice
 
@stuffe I posted a link to what I believe to be a "publicly available" draft.
 
Would you consider it OK or worthwhile to add a short paragraph at the end on "going further"
 
5:17 PM
@stuffe The only change I made was the one you requested--the change in status.
 
I could see a link to the as well as maybe links to Skitch on the MAS and one or two questions that are on the site relating to the built in tools
say this one
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Q: How do I change the location of screen captures on 10.5?

JoshAs a developer, I take a lot of screen captures. I often take a lot to share with StackExchange members on chat. The problem is my desktop is so cluttered with screen captures that they're now overlapping! On Mac OS X 10.5.8, how do I change the default location where screen captures (taken with...

It certainly doesn't need this - just an idle suggestion - run with it if you like or leave it for a follow up post might be an even better strategy depending on how much you feel can be added.
 
Does linking to that question improve the quality of the post? (This is a question, open to discussion, but I have my doubts.)
Ah
We're cross-posting. ;)
 
@jaberg that's the game, right?
 
Absolutely
My goal was a straightforward presentation of a workflow. My assumption is that some will adopt it whole cloth, and those that want to adapt it will go out and find the means to do so.
 
@Jaberg "Don’t drive yourself crazy trying to reproduce a screengrab of this dialog box using the key combinations we’ve covered. I cheated by using Grab, another utility that Apple includes with OS X." < you didn't explain why this won't work. Also, for me unless you want to put up a part 2, I would include the automation of rezising (presume you use folder actions?) in the same tutorial.
 
5:25 PM
Um, I'm getting "he's dead, jim" error every minute.
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I will be putting up part two, because creating a service seems beyond the scope of the initial workflow. I'll take your Grab comment under consideration.
I'm using a service via the contextual menu, not a folder action--but same idea.
 
@jaberg If you are up for part two - I would leave out grab and just have basics, where they land, preview to edit and close.
 
Cool.
Thanks for the input. The screen grabs for part two are already in the can. Just need to put it to words. Should have at it tonight, tomorrow.
Gotta run for bit. I'll be back online shortly from a mobile location.
 
Good stuffe. While we are talking about the Blog, you guys used to have trello, but not any more - is there a process in place, even an unwritten one? Does anyone actively monitor for pending posts etc?
 
The process is: Talk to Kyle. :P
 
5:32 PM
Thanks a lot for your attention. I'll ask a question then.
 
Hmmm @Gigili if that was in response to me, that was not what I meant.
I don't think anyone has actually directly responded to you.
What program is generating this "He's dead, Jim" error message?
 
I'll wait for the question and go Reppin'! :)
 
@JasonSalaz I see. I meant if I really should ask a question on the main site.
@JasonSalaz Chrome.
 
Huh, never seen it before.
But I've had the dead tab page before, I wonder if there's a difference.
@Gigili Does it happen at a specific time, like when it's loading a page? Or will it just randomly happen when you're browsing around / scrolling around the page normally?
 
I'd say it happens randomly.
Does it have something to do with Mac or it's Chrome?
 
I didn't have the same problem on VAIO.
 
There's a lot of differences between the two :).
 
Indeed.
It has a funny origination story.
 
yep.
 
It's no Guru Meditation
 
5:50 PM
I like that error but I also really really dislike that error.
 
The Guru or the Star Trek?
 
Guru Meditation
or Mediation, or whatever
 
6:08 PM
But , um, I have neither open programs nor inactive tabs.
What's the shortcut for logging out of the session?
Never mind, found it.
 
6:25 PM
@jaberg Re: your blog draft: Do you want to add that you can move around the box you're dragging while holding the space bar?
That's a pretty useful tip, IMO
@Gigili How much memory does your computer have and how many apps do you have open?
 
while holding the spacebar?
 
After shift-cmd-4 you draw out a rectangle to take a screenshot of. If you hold down the space bar and move the mouse, the box moves around instead of resizing.
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@NathanGreenstein Only Skype and a Chrome window with 6 active tabs, 4.00 GB
 
oh wow, that's awesome Nathan. I never knew about that.
 
@Gigili Hmm, not sure why you're getting memory errors then.
@JasonSalaz I did it by accident once and was surprised it worked. Photoshop habits...
 
6:31 PM
speaking of photoshop habits.
Shift and Option have an effect too. awesome.
 
I'll think on that Nathan. I was unaware of that feature.
 
@NathanGreenstein It's about an hour I'm getting the error. When I open a new tab, he's dead, Jim and when I refresh he's alive Jim.
Was thinking about asking a question ...
 
@Gigili I've had tabs crash as soon as I open them.
While it's bad that you're getting it so often, I wouldn't worry about it unless a page that you're on changes immediately from the normal page to a He's dead, Jim page.
 
Right but it's annoying.
 
6:53 PM
@JasonSalaz Is my problem on-topic on the main site?
 
7:50 PM
If it's Chrome on a Mac, then yes. If you post, be sure to give full version numbers for OS and Chrome and your mac specs re: ram etc
 
@stuffe I will, thank you.
 
8:12 PM
Just saw an interesting question about the information lie in the serial number, how would I get my Mac's serial number?
 
Click the Apple in the top left and choose 'About This Mac'
Click where it says "Version 10.7.3" or whatever you version is, twice.
 
@JasonSalaz Why click when you can type a lot?
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Q: How can I find the serial number on a mac programmatically from the terminal?

bmikeWhat command can I use to retrieve the system's serial number from the unix command line? As uname will output some information about the software and hardware, I would like to retrieve the serial number from a command to use in a script.

 
:P
Because I would never DREAM of explaining that to users.
 
Great, thank you @bmike and @JasonSalaz. =)
 
@JasonSalaz me neither, come to think of it :-)
 
 
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9:32 PM
Dang. @gentmatt bumped @Daniel out of the top 10. And gentmatt is now hot on my tail. Yipes!
 
Yeah, he's killing it. Just did the exact same answer as me, but 2 minutes later with full annotated screenshots (i.e. he was on it before I posted mine), great work
 
@JasonSalaz Don't worry, I got almost no reputation lately...
@stuffe Yeah, I didn't notice that there were two answers! The banner didn't show. Probably because I would have to scroll to the top?
 
@gentmatt get outta town ;)
 
@gentmatt The banner should display at the top no matter where you are on the page...
 
I just did a comparison of loading 8 tabs in Safari, Chrome and Firefox. This is not a very accurate comparison (different extensions, I did not clear cache...)
But I just wanted to show how CPU heavy Chrome is.
@TimothyMuellerHarder Yeah.
 
9:41 PM
@gentmatt Like I said the other day, mostly I find Chrome to be well-behaved CPU-wise, but every several days of being open constantly Chrome suddenly uses the majority of it.
I haven't done much testing of CPU load on a normal basis.
 
You can also use GPU hardware acceleration in Chrome.
chrome://flags/
 
Oh, I wasn't aware.
 
@TimothyMuellerHarder How many extensions do you have installed.
 
whoa whoa whoa, hold the FUD in this room.
 
I did the test in Chrome with and without GPU hardware acceleration. Not much of a difference for the websites that I visited.
 
9:44 PM
(1) Chrome is GPU accelerated by default where possible. Enabling the flag in about:flags turns it on for EVERYTHING and not just media.
As an aside, turning that on made Chrome very VERY unstable for me.
Might just be me, might just be a video chipset incomatibility, who knows. Tread with caution.
 
@gentmatt Well, I've done a clean install since upgrading to Lion, and have been mostly using Safari since (so I haven't installed more than two extensions), but before that I had a few dozen.
 
(2) You do know why Chrome is so CPU heavy, right?
 
@JasonSalaz Thanks for the info!
@JasonSalaz Multi-threading support?
 
Because every tab is a new process. I'm fairly certain no other browser does that. So no, Chrome is not good for large tab users (like myself >_>). But it's wicked fast for millions of people.
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Every other browser shares rendering time for multiple tabs across a single process.
 
@JasonSalaz Ex-act-ly.
 
9:47 PM
@JasonSalaz That's what I thought. It's very noticable.
 
Almost all browsers nowadays abstract plugins to a different process, but Chrome is the only one I know of that forks for pretty much everything, tabs included.
Besides, there's nothing wrong with maxing out your CPU time unless there's danger of overheating.
 
I was under the impression that each tab in Safari was a seperate process now, as a security sandboxx
Am I mistaken?
 
I think you are.
Plugins are sandboxed away from normal browsing, but away from each other I don't think so.
 
I like to test the speed of my browsers by visiting www.collegehumor.com. On this website, Firefox is a lot faster.
 
Is every browser vanilla?
No themes, plugins, extensions, add-ons, etc.
 
9:49 PM
@JasonSalaz yeah, there's just Safari and WebProcess.
@gentmatt Haha, nice.
 
@JasonSalaz You mean for my picture?
 
@JasonSalaz I just checked up, it splits the sarafi app, and the web rendering component into seperate processes, and also puts plugins into their own process also, but not down to tab level, so it's part way there
 
No, for testing College Humor render time.
 
10 mins ago, by gentmatt
I just did a comparison of loading 8 tabs in Safari, Chrome and Firefox. This is not a very accurate comparison (different extensions, I did not clear cache...)
 
@TimothyMuellerHarder Both Safari and Chrome display the website step-by-step. Firefox display everything almost instantly.
 
9:51 PM
natch
But you also didn't clear cache. Firefox may have simply been more opportunistic.
 
I'm using extensions in all browsers. Mostly the same or similar.
I didn't clear the cache on any.
Actually I did the test for every browser twice before I finally took that picture.
I hate to re-read my sentences in chat because I make so many little mistakes....
⚡🌀🔥💩
 
So many little mistakes = a big mistake.
 
@gentmatt That's what the up arrow is for! ;)
 
You mean the triangle for editing, right?
 
@gentmatt Yes, that too. I meant the up arrow on the keyboard after you've sent a message.
 
9:57 PM
That's AWESOME! I didn't know that!
Thanks. :)
 
@gentmatt No problem!
I love finding/teaching/learning little tricks...
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10:11 PM
The fact that I can be in two rooms at once in the same tab.
 
hehe, that was a figurative question :)
 
Not any more!
 
@TimothyMuellerHarder How? Ö
 
I'm writing a very (very) long piece on better ways to surf the web
 
@Gigili Open the second room, then close one of them. Look in the sidebar, above starred messages and below other users.
 
10:13 PM
here's the first paragraph
Most people still surf the web in the same way as they did when Internet Explorer was knee-high to the Netscape grasshopper. They recall the names of the sites that they want to visit, and they either type them into the address bar, or they google them etc. Obviously, I'm not talking about you, you're smart, but to a lot of people even managing a bookmark list is the stuff of arcane nightmares.
Some people think that using the browser history or address bar drop down to get at recent sites is pretty darn clever. I imagine that these same people still find digital watches pretty neat.
 
@TimothyMuellerHarder Oh I thought you meant being able to follow both in one tab.
 
@Gigili What's the difference?
@stuffe Douglas Adams FTW
Oh, never mind.
Got it. You can, though, see when you're tagged and when there's a new message...
 
If anyone is a regular user of Instapaper, Readability, ReadItLater or Reader/Reading list, I'd appreciate it if you fancy telling me abut your favourite/least favourite aspects of using the services
 
@TimothyMuellerHarder I'm not able to type responses in more than one room, I mean I should open the other one finally.
 
@stuffe Do you mean for link compiling, or for making readable?
Or just in general?
 
10:17 PM
for link compiling, mobilesing, off lining, social/sharing - anything
Instapaper is easy, everyone uses it, but someone must find the others useful or there wouldn;t be any others...
 
@stuffe reading list is for quick hits and getting a link to other devices and some bookmarking before I want to put it in pinboard for long term tagging or bookmarking.
Instapaper is for pretty much anything needing pinning, tagging, reading.
 
@stuffe I use Reading List, and love it because it's natively integrated, and syncs with Mobile Safari. I haven't tried Instapaper or Readability, but ReadItLater is also very useful.
 
Never tried ReadItLater and very light use of readability
 
@stuffe What's so bad about digital watches? Or is this a reference to the Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy?
 
my favorite about all three is the vendor sustainability (they charge for things I appreciate to provide me the service) and the lack of advertisements.
 
10:22 PM
@gentmatt I assume the latter...
@bmike Please elaborate on that first point; I'm not sure I understand.
 
@JasonSalaz I said goodbye to the top ten when I posted a 100 point bounty earlier this week. But actually I've had some good content responses this week, and @gentmatt has had less rep than usual, so I'm closer to catching back up than I expected. Gentmatt belongs in the top ten, though.
 
@Daniel But you do too. Come hit 6K with me!
 
What's the number below one's name when one sends four lines in chat?
 
@TimothyMuellerHarder total network rep
 
10:25 PM
 
total site rep
i
anyway
think
Yup ;)
 
@JasonSalaz I don't see how that could be... I have ≈750 here, and I've barely used other sites.
 
There's the 100 point bonus, but I've only used maybe 5 other sites.
 
10:27 PM
huh
Guess not lol
 
indeed
 
@JasonSalaz This week I'm back in a groove with actual content responses. My ability to do that depends a lot on the questions people post. I don't do troubleshooting questions well, and I'm not that good with hardware. If it's AppleScript/Automator, I can often figure out an answer, but if it's a "my ___ is broke; help me fix it", I'm not that helpful.
 
@Daniel You've managed to get this far with the content available. You'll keep going. I'm not worried :), just trying to be a bit of inspiration perhaps.
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man, still .2k? yuck
It's been like that since I crossed 6K on ask different. And... I guess that makes sense, but I'd really like to see another number.
 
What is my
total
site
rep?
Not as impressive as I might have hoped :-)
 
10:31 PM
I hope I didn't start lots of
multi
line
things
 
nope
 
you didn;t
 
as long as we interrupt you :-)
 
10:32 PM
Hmm.
 
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2 Interrupt this.
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There's no way anyone could type that fast
 
Considering the space between posts is larger than posts by different people, that may be counter-productive...
 
Sssssshhhhhhhhhhhh. Ancient Chinese Secret.
hahahahaha. Thanks Daniel XD.
 
I have no idea what you're talking about.
 
10:33 PM
Nope
 
I know I sure can't
 
I've learned from the master at that one.
 
Whee doggie
aaaaaaaaanyway.
 
Why there's no question about keyboard shortcuts?
 
I'm sure I've seen some before.
 
10:37 PM
All of them, something like this
Um, maybe because lists are off-topic?
 
And that's a spectacularly bad question.
some lists are good
I fail to see how a list of all keyboard shortcuts is remotely a good idea.
The point of list questions with one item per answer is so we can vote on the most useful ones.
But do we really want to vote on "Cut is WAY more useful than Paste, man"
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I admit.
 
"No, Hide Toolbar in Safari is helpful"
 
+1. That wouldn't be a constructive list.
 
I miss Alt+Mouse 1, and Alt+Mouse 2.
> When I found out about Alt + Mouse 1 on an open Window. I went nuts moving windows is easy now.
 
10:40 PM
"No, the most useful is Quit in Chrome, because Chrome sux."
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hahahaha
 
I find it useful as it's about 5 hours I'm on Mac. Badly new.
 
"Duuuuuude. Did you hear about command-Z? :O"
 
Open any menu. Look at the right-hand side.
 
just because it's useful doesn't mean it is useful for ask different.
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10:41 PM
@JasonSalaz Exactly.
 
@Gigili support.apple.com/kb/HT1343 <-- you'll like this page.
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Which is why a one-shortcut-per-answer is so spectacularly bad for this site.
 
We just had a star flurry. (...shooting stars?)
 
@JasonSalaz It could a reason for a useful question on AD too.
 
@TimothyMuellerHarder I know exactly how instapaper, pinboard and apple make their money. Their businesses are sustainable in that the users pay for the services in an obvious manner.
 
10:43 PM
@Gigili A useful question on Ask Different in this context could be support for why a particular shortcut isn't working. Beyond that. No. A large list question/answer of every keyboard shortcut is a terribly bad idea.
 
Thus, I have less concern of them needing to "monetize" me or my data - it still could happen, just I feel my interests align with theirs which makes me happy to use the three products.
 
A list of little-known or undocumented shortcuts -- maybe. A list of all shortcuts, including those in support.apple.com/kb/HT1343 ? No way.
@bmike I'm in favor of paying for things I value.
 
10:59 PM
@stuffe nice move on the comment. Thanks.
 
What does Minimizing a window do while pressing shift?
 
Plays the animation more slowly, I think.
 
Just slows the animation down.
Pointless eye candy
but if you are quick, and do a killall dock part way through, it will pause half way down at the point you killed the dock
 
This is great fun when playing a movie file, etc. It's a handy demonstration of the window layer that Macs use to build the display.
 
11:02 PM
Ah neat.
 
Ever noticed on windows where you get artifacts left when you move a window? Bits of toolbars etc just left hanging in the air etc - that's the Windows bitmapped display at work (much better since Win7)
on Macs it doesn't build the display pixel by pixel, it's more akin to 3d games, were a texture is built and applied onto a surface, only your surface is the window, and your texture is actually a pdf construct
 
"pdf construct"? Do you mean that?
I don't entirely understand the use of that term.
 
As I understand it, all the window elements you see are actually created using the same PDF engine as, well, a PDF
 
Well, it's XML-based until Interface Builder compiles it.
Not sure after that.
 
not bitmapped, not created out of a mishmash of using fonts for the minimise/maximise/close buttons etc
created using is bad, output as is probably more like it
 
11:09 PM
strange use of terms, though I admit I don't know how better to explain it.
 
Display PostScript (or DPS) is an on-screen display system. As the name implies, DPS uses the PostScript (PS) imaging model and language to generate on-screen graphics. To the basic PS system, DPS adds a number of features intended to ease working with bitmapped displays and improve performance of some common tasks. Early versions of PostScript display systems were developed at Adobe Systems. In 1986, Sun Microsystems developed a totally independent implementation of Adobe's PostScript page description language called NeWS, which rendered on multiple overlapping arbitrarily shaped windows ...
 
PostScript I understand.
 
Quartz 2D is a very tuned set of PDF ideas and code and still around even though much is now OpenCL/OpenGL and fanciness...
(and BOY chat is having some severe problems for me - one boxing taking 5 to 500 seconds, lost connection banner to the chat servers more than I've ever seen)
@NathanGreenstein Have you played with Opacity? likethought.com/opacity
 
@bmike I was dragging an Opacity slider when the notification for that message popped up ;)
Seriously, though, that looks like it might be worth looking at.
Photoshop's vector capabilities are sketch sometimes, and I'm not great with Illustrator
The built in effects could be super useful. No sense reinventing the wheel each time I want a gloss effect.
 
@NathanGreenstein As long as the built in filters work for you (i.e. you're not a photoshop super pro) - it's quite nice. I love how it outputs drawing code in addition to png/jpg/icns whatever else you might expect.
 
11:18 PM
Quartz is the umbrella term for the Mac OS X display layer through which all drawing and screen display is done. Conceptually, the most important parts of Quartz are:

Quartz 2D is a vector-based drawing API. The functions it provides map nicely to the drawing commands that make up Adobe's PDF page description language. Quartz takes advantage of this to enable nearly anything drawn to the screen to be written to a PDF file, and to help unify printing and screen display under a single API.

The Quartz Compositor is the engine that combines ("composites") the rasterized output of each applica
 
@bmike sounds like your router/modem/isp is dropping lots of packets.
 
That from Tiger, so old, but the basic premise that the display is rendered individually on a per window basis is what I was getting at
quartx extreme and subsequent core this that and the other have probably superceded it, but the methods used are the same, just GPU accelerated through opencl etc
that's why you will never ever see half a toolbar hanging around in mid air just because the display driver hasn;t caught up with your movement yet, unlike on Win
well, let's be fair, unlike on old Win
 
From what I've seen, Vista was worse than almost all other versions for that stuff.
 
that may be have been the "runs on vista" debacle whereby millions of computers were sold as capable despite the fact that the GPU couldn;t cut it
and they lowered the requirements to accomodate the warehouses full of oem laptops that did not make the vista grade
 
11:33 PM
@JasonSalaz I'm on a business class line and none of my monitoring tools has tripped for packet loss or even a spike in ping times...
Anyone want to ping me and see if you have packet loss?
ping www.integritypad.com
 
--- integritypad.com ping statistics ---
36157 packets transmitted, 35967 packets received, 0.5% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 61.370/142.743/241.939/29.643 ms
 
geez
send enough packets?
 
I don't always ping, but when I do I use flood
 
did you really send multiple pings instead of sequential pinging?
 
--- integritypad.com ping statistics ---
34214 packets transmitted, 34093 packets received, 0.4% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 139.966/152.037/182.622/3.905 ms
whats stddev?
 
11:41 PM
-f it is
 
standard deviation
 
standard deviation
some silly math term
 
some silly math term
-f it is
 
11:41 PM
why is Kyles 9 times higher when the rest seem a little better
 
his stddev 9 times higher?
 
yeah
 
@stuffe probably just the quality of my internet connection
 
I don't know, I suck at math. Kyle?
 
3.9ms stddev with ping -f is very good
 
11:47 PM
PING TEST OF THE DAY
laters peeps, off to get some zeds
 
stddev of which distribution is that?
 

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