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4:01 PM
Bleh
 
mh still no answers here
 
@DominicMichaelis I’ve made very little headway on that one. I do know that if $\varphi$ really is principal, the only possible generator is $\{x_f:f\in\mathscr{A}\}$.
 
I am still thinking about, what property does $\mathbb{Z}$ have to grant us only having a one point filter, right now I guess it is just being countable but maybe we need something else too
Do you think a bounty might help for answers?
 
007
Nowadays the computer has started asking for human verification ?? :-}
Asked on last 3 answers.
 
4:16 PM
@007 It’s most likely to happen if you’ve had the answer window open for a long period of time.
 
007
@BrianM.Scott Okay thanx.
 
@DominicMichaelis I honestly have no idea. I’m not influenced by them, but perhaps others are.
Did you recover your proof that $\varphi$ is an ultrafilter?
 
not completly just the idea i told you last time, I study physics and math and thats pretty time consuming -.-
 
Hello all.
 
4:27 PM
HELLO
 
@BrianM.Scott I told you the idea of my proof didn't I ?
 
@Lord_Farin how are you ?
 
@Vrouvrou Fine, thanks. You?
 
@DominicMichaelis Showing that any set or its complement must belong to $\varphi$? That’s the obvious thing to try, but I can’t make it go anywhere.
 
not very well
 
4:31 PM
@Vrouvrou Why?
 
@Lord_Farin go to the my question please, you wille find the purpose of seeing that t→f(φt(q)) is linear with derivative +1
An other question about Theorem 3.1 from Morse theory by Milnor
 
@Chris'ssisterandpals Hello.
 
@Lord_Farin hi :-)
 
@Lord_Farin you find it ?
 
4:33 PM
Here is a very cute integral $$\int_e^{\pi}\sqrt{(x-e)(\pi-x)} \ dx $$
 
@Vrouvrou This one?
@Chris'ssisterandpals Close your brackets :).
 
no
this
 
Yes I had just found it.
 
@Lord_Farin hehe, yeah. Thanks. Missing brackets are a sign of tiredness. :D
 
@BrianM.Scott on weekend i will try to write it explicitly down for a set wit h3 or 4 elements
 
4:36 PM
@DominicMichaelis I’ll be interested to see if you get anywhere. I haven’t entirely stopped thinking about it myself.
 
@Lord_Farin know you why $\phi_{b-a}$ is a diffeomorphisme ?
 
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3045/screenshot20130502at238.png
Any ideas? I feel as if I'm missing something that's so obvious.
 
@Vrouvrou By definition; $(\phi_t)_t$ is a one-parameter family of diffeomorphisms.
@eXtremiity Since $S$ is a subset of a ring, it suffices to show closure under multiplication and subtraction; can you do this?
 
@Lord_Farin . I believe so.
 
oh yes i forget this
 
4:41 PM
As in, I'm not sure if I am correct or not. It's weird. I have no solutions.
 
@BrianM.Scott taking only 4 elements sound so lazy but the power set of the power set of a 4 element set does have more than 65 000 elements
 
@eXtremiity It's rather busy here. Perhaps it's a good idea if I guide you in a separate room?
 
@DominicMichaelis You mean the power set of the power set. :-)
 
Sure, if you have the patience xD .
 
@Lord_Farin i'm sorry but you can explain me this :ϕt is automatically a diffeomorphism onto its image for every t, and repeating the argument but reversing the direction of the gradient flow for f shows that ϕb−a:Ma→Mb is onto
 
4:43 PM
If not, then you can advise me on the answer and I'll look into it. Whatever suits you best, @Lord_Farin.
 
@Vrouvrou A restriction of a diffeomorphism is automatically a diffeo onto its image.
@Vrouvrou I'm not sure about the other part, sorry.
 
lol
ok
thank you
 
5:03 PM
@Brian You still here? In chat?
Did you catch my comment yesterday, before I deleted it?
 
Hi @Lord_F
 
@Charlie Hello.
 
@Lord_Farin how are you?
 
@Charlie Fine, thanks. You?
 
@Lord_Farin fine, thinking about leaving this chat permanently
 
5:09 PM
Why?
 
@charlie noes noes noes
first jasper and now you ? :/
 
@Lord_Farin a few things
 
@Charlie Care to elaborate or is this too public a venue for that?
 
@Lord_Farin personal reasons
 
@Charlie I see :(.
 
5:12 PM
I'LL wait a bit, to not make a decision based on rage
 
@Charlie That sounds like some people misbehaved here.
 
>8(
 
@Charlie Perhaps you should do what I did yesterday. Just take some time off. Take a walk perhaps. Do something else.
 
I don't know...
 
5:32 PM
i freaking hate coulomb
 
@DominicMichaelis Isn't that simply Joule per second?
 
yeah but i always missspell that shit, when i am using siunitx
 
@DominicMichaelis More practice. :P
 
he should have a simply name like müller :D
 
Muller is simple?
I always miss the u
 
5:37 PM
People used to misspell my name...
@DominicMichaelis yes, schmidt, schweinsteigger, simple names ;)
 
@Charlie I misspell everything. But the people here hardly ever see because I can fix it before sending a message :).
 
@Lord_Farin }:)
@JayeshBadwaik won't you upload a new gravatar :'( ?
 
@Charlie I will.
 
5:55 PM
Good
 
6:12 PM
;O
 
@Charlie I should try to have than ping me.
 
6:34 PM
sorry...never mind...silly question
 
6:54 PM
@amWhy XD
 
@GustavoBandeira :-)
 
@robjohn hahaha yes!
@Soma hi
 
Yo.
 
Hi
how are you?
 
@robjohn Don't you mean $0<x\leq \pi$ in your latest answer?
 
7:03 PM
Fine, and you?
 
fine too:)
what question?
 
Excellent
 
@somaye Nevermind. I misunderstood you.
 
Ok!
 
:-/
 
7:07 PM
@GitGud I guess you could define $\frac00=\frac12$ :-)
 
-_-
 
7:24 PM
Hi! Is it obvious what the matrix $G$ is here? $$
G^T \begin{bmatrix} A & Aa+ b\\ (Aa+b)^T & a^T Aa+Ab+c \end{bmatrix} G = \begin{bmatrix} A & b \\ b^T & c \end{bmatrix}
$$
 
@Nimza Are you claiming there is only one such matrix?
 
@GitGud no, there must be some elementary tranformation matrix
 
@Nimza Can you add some dimensions to the entries?
 
bye
:)
 
@GitGud I can't edit yet :( $A \sim m \times m$, $b \sim m \times 1$, $c \sim 1 \times 1$, $a \sim m \times 1$
 
7:27 PM
See you.
 
charlie
bye?
and GIT Gud
 
@somaye You should at an @ before calling out people, so they get pinged.
 
Bye @somaye
 
@Charlie ogo, you're green
 
@Nimza yeahgo! Did you like?
 
7:30 PM
@Charlie aha)
 
@Nimza :)
 
@Nimza $(a^TAa)_{1\times 1}$ while $(Ab)_{m\times 1}$. You can't add'em.
 
@GitGud oooops, there is $2b^T a$ instead of $Ab$, this matrix corresponds to translation transformation
@GitGud look, the general equation of second-order algebraic hypersurface $$
\begin{bmatrix} x & 1 \end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix} A & b \\ b^T &c \end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix} x\\ 1 \end{bmatrix} = 0
$$
after transformation $x = y + a$ we obtain matrix from my question
Oh, if only alpha could multiply block matrices
 
7:53 PM
cute, $G = \begin{bmatrix} I & a \\ 0 & 1 \end{bmatrix}$
 
anyone know anything about bipartite graphs?
 
@JonasTeuwen you were so silent in the last days (that's somewhat strange). Now I noticed you are up there. :-)
@Lord_Farin are you around?
@WillJagy Willlllllllllllllly! :-)
 
@Charlie, have you and Somaye managed contact on, I don't know, facebook chat or the like? i have her email
@Chris'ssisterandpals, Hi, I actually was Willie as a child, sometimes my oldest sister calls me that. Which is fair, I still think of my brother as Jimmie.
 
8:09 PM
@WillJagy hi. Glad to hear that. :-)
@Ethan Have you seen this? $$\int_e^{\pi}\sqrt{(x-e)(\pi-x)} \ dx $$
 
Bayern Munich 3, Barcelona 0, minute 77. Holy Shit.
 
@WillJagy Are you a fan of the NFL?
 
@skullpatrol, sometimes, more when I was younger. I grew up in New York, live in California, so baseball and nfl were part of it. But I began playing soccer frequently after grad school and got surprisingly good. So there is a level of understanding and interest when I watch the best play.
 
8:28 PM
I agree that soccer is a beautiful game to watch the best play...
...knowing the amount of running/skill involved.
@WillJagy
 
I'd be very interested to read some paper about the psychological profile of the mathematicians. Someone recommended me to read amazon.com/Mind-Mathematician-Michael-Fitzgerald/dp/0801885876
 
@Chris'ssisterandpals I am now.
 
@Lord_Farin I wanted to ask you if you see any straightforward way for the integral above.
 
@Chris'ssisterandpals I've tried some things, most notably differentiating the constants. It didn't work.
 
@Lord_Farin OK. Many thanks to you for trying it! :)
 
8:41 PM
@Chris'ssisterandpals Hm I may be onto something right now (I just glanced at my paper again). I'll report in a few.
 
9:00 PM
:( Didn't work either.
 
@Lord_Farin ok. I'll recheck it a later.
I definitely need some sleep. Bye.
 
later
Hi @OldJohn how are you?
 
@skullpatrol Hi - I'm fine thanks - and you?
 
@OldJohn Fine thanks :-)
 
@skullpatrol seems like moderators are leaving in droves while I have been busy with other things!
(well - in threes, if not "droves")
 
9:15 PM
@OldJohn Indeed the drama has been thick around here lately.
:D
 
@skullpatrol Indeed! But I guess it doesn't affect me directly very much, so I am just an interested observer.
 
@skullpatrol Even @Charlie is succumbing to it.
 
@GustavoBandeira It appears so...
 
@skullpatrol At first read, I've seen "how old are you?"
@skullpatrol We need the ancient power of the metaderators to fix that. Anna Lear really needs to come here and say $(STFU\vee GTFO)\forall You$
 
@Charlie, could you please email me, addresses at ams.org/cml search? I suppose you need to be awake at the time. People may email while asleep, but they probably do not do so very well.
 
9:28 PM
@WillJagy Are you a professor?
 
@GustavoBandeira, not any more.
 
@WillJagy You talk in a really comforting way.
Talking in really comforting way $\rightarrow$ professor.
 
@GustavoBandeira For the good professors, at least. :)
 
@anorton You remind me of something.
 
hopefully something good.
:)
 
(I can't go to youtube... internet filter--sorry)
 
@GustavoBandeira, thanks, I try.
 
@WillJagy I really admire that. And it's one of the things I want to change in me.
 
@anorton He says you reminded him to upgrade this Norton virus :D
 
:D haha
 
9:38 PM
(-:
 
@Chris'ssisterandpals Good night. Quite unexpectedly, I have been able to reduce the problem to finding an initial condition to an ODE. This computation however appears to be hard.
I'm leaving as well. Bye all!
 
later
 
9:54 PM
@WillJagy why, Will?
Hi @Skull
 
Hi @Charlie
 
@skullpatrol are you okay?
 
@Charlie Yes, thanks. How are you?
 
@Charlie, good. Because Somaye wrote to me, I was able to faorward her paper to an expert, so that aspect worked out. However, she also wants someone to Skype with, if i understand her request. I don't have that or a webcam, and I'm not particularly fond of Facebook chat either. I like email. So, the email idea was mostly so that i could send you her email address and repeat what I just wrote.
 
ok... this is a long shot, but I'll try anyway: There's a substitution I've seen quite often that's used for definite integrals. If you're working on $\int_a^bf(x)dx$, the substitution says that you can do something like $x = x+b-a$, and not change the integral. But I can't remember the exact substitution. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
 
10:18 PM
@Charlie, long pause, I will take that as reluctance. A few notes: (A) I think communication off site is a good thing. (B)This began on MO, when I put some people in touch about some math, who wanted to keep their email secret. (C) done the same for amWhy, so you might ask (D) Chris'sister did email me although with no name and a meaningless email address. Other than that info, I guess I will drop it.
 
Does someone know a lot about the 'difference between convolution and crosscorrelation?'
 
Hey @WillJagy. Is the heat in berkeley dry or humid in the summer?
 
@AlexanderGruber Do you know a lot?
 
@user68610 depends what you're askin' bout
 
( in other words, yes, he does know a lot. :D )
 
10:31 PM
@AlexanderGruber Can you explain the answer here? I don't understand what the answerer is talking about.... math.stackexchange.com/questions/353272/…
 
@anorton hahahaha. maybe for some things.
@user68610 hmmm okay, what are you unclear about?
 
@AlexanderGruber How would you interpret that answer in your own words?
 
@user68610 well you got your independent random variables, $X$ and $Y$. they've got a certain probability distribution over the integers, meaning $X$ has a certain chance of being any integer $n$, and that chance is denoted $p_n$. same for $Y$, its probability distribution is $q$.
so, suppose you wanna know the probability that $X+Y$ is equal to some integer $n$. if $X$ takes the value $k$ for some $k<n$, then in order for $X+Y$ to be equal to $n$, you're going to have to have that $Y$ takes the value $n-k$. so the probability for that is $p_nq_{n-k}$.
 
@AlexanderGruber What does this have to do with 'probability distribution' Does convolution as in the convolution for Linear time-invariant systems' (image processing and stuff like that) has anything to do with probability?
 
@user68610 oh, i am not sure about how it's applied. this is just probability theory, do you know about any probability at all?
 
10:41 PM
@willjagy I'm sorry I had to run for an emergency. I'll email you, just give me a second.
@skull I'm fine too
 
@AlexanderGruber I guess I don't know enough about it. Never studied math...
 
@user68610 ohhhhh... i see, this is a somewhat advanced question if you do not know what a probability distribution is.
where does this question come from? how did you run into it?
 
@AlexanderGruber But how is 'probability distribution' for the signal processing variant of 'convolution'?
As a electrical engineering or image and signal processing topic.
 
@user68610 i don't know much about electrical engineering, but maybe it is the probability that a certain piece of data is lost?
it is hard to explain without knowing the context you read it in
 
No, convolution is used as a filter. To blur a picture for example... You take a weighted average. And you will up with a blurry picture in this case.
 
10:53 PM
@user68610 sorry i can only help you understand the mathematics of it - if you need to know how the math relates to programming and stuff you should ask at stackoverflow
 
Image Processing Convolutions, as in image blurring: beej.us/blog/data/convolution-image-processing
"take a 3×3 block we're getting the sum of 9 source pixels, and dividing the sum by 9.

Or, put another way, we're averaging the source pixels for the blur!"
 
i'm not an engineer or a programmer. i think your question is not about mathematics but its relation to the programming at this moment.
you would have better luck at stackoverflow
 
I was just trying to say that, that was the type of convolution I meant.
Is that answer relevant for this type of convolutions?
 
sorry, i don't know how the programming relates to the math so i can't say yes or no. it is not explained in the linked article.
 
11:08 PM
@user68610 the convolution there is defined by \sum_{k}x_kh_{n-k}$. so did's answer applies to your problem.
you should post those links in your question.
(or a new one)
 
11:24 PM
@AlexanderGruber They voted to close the question and asked me to shut up...
 
anyone know bipartites?
 

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