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5:00 AM
Yeah, as the math has gotten harder, I've found I can rely less on my backburner, and must rely more on paper or chalkboard/whiteboard to develop the ideas--something I used to avoid, because I'm good at mental algebra.
 
I think all but the most self-assured (justifiably self-assured or not...) feel that. I solved that by ignoring it; I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
There's some math I can do in my head, some I absolutely need paper for.
One thing that annoys me is I'm really slow at some kinds of computations. Like if you do differential geometry you'll look at pullbacks of differential forms, or exterior derivatives, or whatever; these really amount to substitution and partial differentiation. I absolutely cannot do these in my head. I need paper.
And oftentimes a small computation can take me a lot of time. It's killer.
 
Basic calculus is easy to do mentally...except for when the quotient rule and chain rule intersect. That's where I start to break down.
 
In any case that was just an example. There's lots of similar things for me that I have to do on paper and I'm really slow about.
 
@MikeMiller i like that philosophy of ignoring. To quote Hagrid, "what's coming will come. And we will meet it when it does"
 
Yeah, same. Also, abstract algebra humbled me a lot when it came to algebraic manipulation.
 
5:03 AM
yeah! worst case scenario I'm no good and I go into industry or whatever instead, right? but it's not going to help me today or tomorrow or even when I'm applying to jobs to think about that.
I guess the actual worst case is that a bus comes in through the wall of this bar and runs me over and I die, but I don't lose any sleep on that either
 
I just have trouble imagining devoting my life to a pursuit that's not mathematics.
 
yeah I gotcha
 
Perhaps that's a failure of the imagination. But, not to toot my own horn, I clearly have some knack for math. And I think that knack goes above and beyond my knacks for other stuff.
Shrug. If I spent as much time studying math as I spend on redundant introspection, I'd be much, much more knowledgeable than I am now.
 
it's human, don't begrudge yourself it
human and healthy
 
That's comforting to hear from someone else, much more than from myself.
It can be hard to convince yourself that certain aspects of your being are "only human" when your sample size is exactly one.
 
5:11 AM
it's the advice I've gotten from On High (aka, people older than me, who've had the same feelings back when they were starting out...)
 
It's great advice.
Man, I'm just all over the place tonight. Maybe it's the residual high from 'Murica and explosions.
 
explosions are nice
 
slowly turns MSE into his personal therapy session
Let me try to be on topic. Man, rings are cool, right? All that addition, and the multiplication too, and whoa, that distributivity, that's some real neat stuff right there. Man.
...I'm going to bed.
 
hahahaha
night man
Don't let the existential dread bite
 
'Night. Existential dread is nothing compared to sleeping for less than six hours. The former I can handle. ;)
 
5:27 AM
OK, I guess it's bedtime for me too.
 
Huy
Good night, @MikeMiller.
 
Night.
 
5:48 AM
Later pal.
 
cool ring-related thing: the set of continuous functions from $\mathbb{R}$ to $\mathbb{R}$ with addition being $(f+g)(x) := f(x) + g(x)$ and multiplication being $(f \cdot g) (x) = f(g(x))$ is not a ring because it fails exactly one ring axiom, namely distributivity on the left
but the right is fine
 
6:10 AM
@anon what d'you mean that fibers are just orbits of groups? fibers of a covering p : X \to Y are preimage p^{-1}(x) of a chosen point x \in X.
 
there's a group associated to a covering isn't there?
which acts on fibers...
no?
 
yes. Aut(p), the deck transformation group.
sure, it acts on the cover. so what d'you want to do with it?
 
well, fibers are orbits of Aut(p). one can just as easily take orbits of Gal(L/K). you were asking about how to translate the notion of fibers into field theory language weren't you?
 
i think you're trying to define fibers as Gal(\bar k/k)-sets. that's not what I want to do. I want to use fibers to define Gal(\bar k/k)
 
well, then (a) what do you mean by fibers in \bar k and (b) do we define Aut(p) by fibers?
 
6:14 AM
(a) that's the whole question : define a correct notion of fibers which is transparent enough to get some real theory going. (b) no, we don't usually.
but we can : Aut(p) is a subgroup of the automorphism group of the fiber.
 
that's not a definition
 
you can get the correct definition out. keyword : monodromy action.
 
so what do you mean by "I want to use fibers to define Gal(\bar k/k)" without having a notion of fiber?
 
it's a topic, not a question.
the point is to define the correct analog of fibers, and use it
 
the monodromy group is not defined using fibers
a fiber is just a barren, discrete set
you have to use the actual space (and covering map) to define monodromy, no?
I don't see why you want to use fibers to define galois groups, when we don't use fibers to define deck transformation groups either
 
6:19 AM
yes : but we have the field and field extension at hand.
 
yes
 
@anon i want to "see" loops and homotopies in the context of galois theory
 
hmm
 
the coin drops.
fundamental group can be defined both as Aut(p) of the universal covering map p : \tilde X \to X and as homotopy classes of loops. Gal(\bar k/k) is suspiciously like the former, but there has been theory unifying these. but what goes with the latter definition?
if the two theories are similar, there should be an analog for the latter definition.
 
okay
 
6:25 AM
i think points have something to do with algebraic closures and paths have something to do with morphisms between them. explanation : i have done a trivial observation last night - \pi_1(X, x_0) is isomorphic to \pi_1(X, x_1) by conjugating by a path joining x_0 and x_1. in absolute galois groups, choice of basepoint comes from choice of algebraic closure. here, similarly, Gal(\bar k/k) and Gal(\tilde k/k) are isomorphic via conjugation by an isomorphism $\bar k \to \tilde k$
 
true
 
so an isomorphism between algebraic closure should be something like "a path"
 
that's an interesting thought
 
anyway, all of these are vague philosophy. i don't think i can come up with something useful.
 
@MikeMiller Is $\pi_1(H)\to\pi_1(G)\to\pi_1(G/H)\to\pi_0(H)$ exact? seems so. that means $B_n({\cal S})\to{\rm Mod}({\cal S},n)$ is an isomorphism precisely when ${\rm Diff}^+({\cal S})$ is trivial right? To what extent are $\pi_1$s of ${\rm Diff}$s of surfaces (compact surfaces possibly with boundary minus a finite number of punctures) classified? Maybe I should just start reading A Primer and fill in the fundamentals later just for fun.
 
6:30 AM
if there is a fiber bundle $H \to G \to G/H$, then it's exact, sure.
 
that would make Mike's fiber bundle comment make sense I suppose
I can't picture it not being exact. hmm.
 
just feed it to the homotopy long exact sequence. it's exact.
 
what goes wrong if it's not a fiber bundle?
 
you can't feed it to the homotopy long exact sequence. no longer sure if exact or not.
are $G, H$ path connected topological groups?
 
well $H$ isn't generally, but let's assume $G$ is
 
6:38 AM
then there's always such a fiber bundle.
 
if the $\pi_1$s are taken wrt the identity then does it matter if $G$ is connected?
 
$G$ most certainly has to be connected, otherwise how do you define $\pi_1$?
it has to be path-connected.
 
$\pi_1(G,e_G)$
 
you're taking $\pi_1$ of a connected component. i don't think that's allowed.
 
you can't define $\pi_1(X,x)$ if $X$ has more than one connected component?
 
6:41 AM
no, $\pi_1$ is defined for path connected spaces.
well, you can define it otherwise.
but then things get murkier.
choice of basepoint isn't unique, etc.
 
$\pi_1(X)$ is only (relatively) unambiguous if $X$ is path-connected, and $\pi_1(X,x)$ is unambiguous no matter what $X$ is, no?
 
why do you want to define $\pi_1$ for non-connected spaces?
 
what if my spaces aren't connected?
 
you'd have to compromise. $\pi_1$ isn't the right invariant you want.
 
I mean, here I have $G$ being a diffeo group, in which case I only care about the connected component of the identity, which is fine because $\pi_1(G,e)$ only cares about that component too.
what makes you think it isn't the right invariant I want?
pi_1 is used in the definition of braid groups
 
6:46 AM
oh, so you're asking if basepoints muck up the homotopy long exact sequence?
 
no
 
ok, so what's the question?
i pass to @Mike.
 
@Balarka, @anon: p-adics post is up. What errors have I made?
 
@anon: Yes, it is. I guess my answer left out the most important tool: what the homotopy long exact sequence is. When you have a fiber bundle $F \to E \to B$, you get a long exact sequence in homotopy groups $$\dots \to \pi_{k+1}(B) \to \pi_k(F) \to \pi_k(E) \to \pi_k(B) \to \dots$$ Just because the middle map in your bit is an isomorphism doesn't mean the outer terms are zero, just that the maps are zero (but of course you knew this).
 
right
 
6:48 AM
I can prove that your guess (the map is an isomorphism iff $\pi_1(\text{Diff}(\mathcal S)) = 0$) is correct with a little more work. I guess you'd prefer to do it yourself than for me to tell you how to do it. Everything you need should be in my answer or its comments.
The homotopy type of $\text{Diff}(\mathcal S,n)$ is probably known for all $\mathcal S,n$. When $n>0$ I don't know it, but I'd be astonished if this wasn't known decades and decades ago. I would be unsurprised if you could prove it without too much work as a consequence of the Earle-Eeles theorem. In any case if you're particularly interested to know it you can surely find out with some googling.
 
what goes wrong with $\pi_1(H)\to\pi_1(G)\to\pi_1(G/H)\to\pi_0(H)$ being exact if $G$ is not a fiber bundle?
 
I think the part about Z_p being the completion wrt the metric is a little questionable.
 
no it's fine. Z_p is the metric completion of (Z, |*, *|_p)
 
@SohamChowdhury you may be interested in the tree topology - that's basically how you should think about p-adics topology. let me get a relevant link for you.
 
It doesn't make sense to say that $G$ is a fiber bundle. A map $E \to B$ is a fiber bundle. The issue is a) writing down the sequence in the first place - what's your map $\pi_1(G/H) \to \pi_0(H)$? b) how do you prove exactness in the middle?
 
6:51 AM
@BalarkaSen thanks. Is everything okay?
 
seems like it.
 
hopefully you'll study class field theory instead of algebraic topology now
 
aw, not yet. I've almost finished the prereqs. Fundamental groups, here I come!
 
@SohamChowdhury well, the best link I can find right now is this - I gave a couple sentences about the tree idea
 
6:52 AM
Let $G$ be the 2-torus and $H$ be a line with irrational slope. Then $G/H$ is an uncountable set with the indiscrete topology. The exactness of that sequence fails in that center spot.
 
Besides, @Balarka, I will study NT and algebraic geometry later. But not right now. And class field theory looks forbiddingly hard, maybe I'll think about it sometime later when you start learning geometry.
 
@MikeMiller ah, would closedness of H be important then? I'l think about it more later I suppose.
 
I'm too fascinated by Euler characteristic and higher-dimensional holes (ouch, don't kill me) and whatnot.
 
In your context (as mentioned below my answer) whether or not $H \to G \to G/H$ is a fiber bundle is equivalent to asking whether or not $G \to G/H$ has a continuous local section.
 
@SohamChowdhury well, you'll have to learn galois theory first.
 
6:55 AM
But thanks a ton for teaching me all that.
@BalarkaSen I sure will. I started learning algebra because I wanted to know about Abel-Ruffini and trisection, in fact.
 
my goal was to get you interested in number theory, and there you are.
 
@anon: When $H$ is closed and $G$ is a Lie group it's immediately true, because you get some results about the manifold structure of $G/H$ and the map $G \to G/H$ (it's a submersion). I'm not comfortable saying anything in more generality than that.
 
@BalarkaSen I always was (well, last few years, at least), Balarka. But thanks nevertheless :)
Whoa.
 
don't forget to teach me class field theory when you've studied it, @Soham :P
 
Hahahaha
 
6:57 AM
(Of course every time I've been writing down $\pi_i(X)$ I implicitly mean $\pi_i(X,x)$, having chosen some basepoint $x \in X$. For you your basepoint is just the identity, and you have an obvious basepoint in $G/H$: $[e]$.)
 
@anon, that bit about nested balls is quite interesting!
@BalarkaSen what kinds of questions does CFT answer?
 
it deals with the abelian part of Gal(\bar Q/Q). that has all kind of applications.
 
any famous results I can understand?
 
fermat's last theorem, most likely.
but i don't know if that uses class field theory.
 
oh. isn't that like all of algebraic NT?
 
7:00 AM
i am not the right person to ask : i've always wanted to understand class field theory, but i haven't got the chance to.
 
(I soooo want to study algebraic NT later.)
 
no, not all of algebraic NT. algebraic NT is a name for something very broad.
 
No, I mean Wiles' proof uses stuff from almost all of algebraic NT, I'd imagine.
 
@SohamChowdhury classifying abelian extensions and stating higher reciprocity laws
 
yes, lots.
 
7:02 AM
Cool fact: $2^x, 3^x, 5^x \in \Bbb Z\implies x\in\Bbb Z$.
Unsolved conjecture: $2^x, 3^x \in \Bbb Z\implies x\in\Bbb Z$.
This is mindblowing.
77
Q: If $2^x $and $3^x$ are integers, must $x$ be as well?

Alon AmitI'm fascinated by this open problem (if it is indeed still that) and every few years I try to check up on its status. Some background: Let $x$ be a positive real number. If $n^x$ is an integer for every $n \in \mathbb{N}$ then $x$ must be an integer. This is a fun little puzzle. If $2^x$, $3^x$...

 
yes. you need the four/five exponenetial conjecture/theorem to get something, right?
ok, six and four.
@Soham you've linked to completion algebra. the correct link should go to metric completion
or complete metric space.
 
@anon: by the way, for the thing I'm thinking about, it turns out I can stick to irreducible representations: there aren't any nontrivial reducible reps at all. this is probably convenient
 
also, the topology of $\mathbf{Z}_p$ should go before the metric bit : otherwise completion doesn't make sense @SohamChowdhury
i.e., "$\mathbf Z_p$ is the completion of $\Bbb Z$ wrt. p-adic metric" makes sense if and only if you have a topology in mind for $\mathbf Z_p$.
 
@BalarkaSen oops, right.
also, Balarka, I fully grok the correspondence theorem now. dunno why I couldn't on the day I went to meet SB.
 
subgroups-quotients correspondence?
i.e., the fourth isomorphism theorem?
Dummit-Foote gives a lot of examples with lattices. you should have look.
 
7:16 AM
anyway, I understand it just fine now. I'll look at DF.
 
cool.
 
all fixed up, thanks for pointing those out.
 
have fun. i have to go and smash my brains open on galois theory/covering spaces.
 
8:04 AM
hello
 
8:17 AM
hi pal
 
r9m
9:00 AM
(^_^)/ @skill
 
I don't think math is any terrifying, but I find it's terrifying to stay away from the beauty of math.
Math gives meaning to lives. And usually harder means nicer, that's sure.
 
r9m
jdbgxfjzhsdf <- makes more sense! :P rofl (just teasing)
 
@r9m maybe it's not that hard to attend the general case.
 
r9m
@Chris'ssistheartist differencing works on the RHS in general .. I haven't tried to jot down things on pen and paper yet ..
 
"Mathematics is the most beautiful and most powerful creation of the human spirit." - Stefan Banach
@r9m ^^^ maybe it makes more sense ;)
"Mathematics has beauty and romance. It's not a boring place to be, the mathematical world. It's an extraordinary place; it's worth spending time there." - Marcus du Sautoy
Anyway.
 
r9m
9:19 AM
bbl .. my engines needs fuel :P
 
When I fail to solve something, I don't blame mathematics for being terrifying, but I go and learn all I need to solve the stuff I wanna solve.
(if needed I do research, and so on, I reach my objective lately, I do my best for that)
 
Has anyone encountered/thoughts about these or similar?
(-2^-x + 1) + (-2^-y + 1) = 1
2^(x+y) = 2^x + 2^y
y = -2^-x + 1
That last one seems to be f(x) = (f(x - 1) + 1) / 2
Found thinking about the log scale between 0 and 1.
 
When I reach this conclusion, math being terrifying, talking about me, I quit mathematics.
 
@alan2here What do you mean exactly ?
 
9:35 AM
What part?
 
For instance "2^(x+y) = 2^x + 2^y". What are you searching for ? A suitable definition of the exponentiation ?
 
Plotting things on a log scale gets a bit odd at the part of the Y axis approaching 0, I was exploring this.
 
Well of course, log(2^(x+y))=log(2^x)+log(2^y)
 
@r9m (^_^)/
 
9:39 AM
1, 2, miss a few, infinity
 
@alan2here What about it ?
 
So from there, and plotting this curve more continuously as so.
Sorry, missed a step, anyway reflected around y = x it looks like that.
 
Is it possible to have an Erdos number equal to Sqrt[2]?
 
@MatsGranvik O_o aren't they all integers ?
@alan2here I mean, what do you want to do with this curve exactly ? I'm not sure what your question is
 
@Hippalectryon Yes but if you have collaborated with 2 Erdos collaborators then you must be worth more than if you have collaborated with 1 Erdos collaborator.
 
9:45 AM
It seems interesting because its an exploration of this 0 to 1 log scale, it's a very simple formula, it's gives curve that decelerates from a slope of probably around 1 gradually to 0, and as the value approaches 1 from a value of 0, and it is this interesting itteratie to repeatedly add one and half, but for a non-integer number of times.
 
@MatsGranvik How would you create the "new" erdos numbers then ? You'd have to make sure that someone with 10000000 collaborations with people who have an erdos number <= 3 still has an erdos number <3
 
It's not a question, I just wondered if anyone had any thoughts.
*itterativly
*itterative
sorry, typo
 
@alan2here you can hit the up arrow to edit your messages :-)
 
sorry, software keyboard, lacks directional arrows but includes a lot of foreign language keys and the such.
 
@Chris'ssistheartist Only real methods ?
 
9:50 AM
but thanks :)
 
@Hippalectryon Of course.
@Hippalectryon It's not hard with a bit of care.
 
I guess having a lot of interesting properties isn't special, every natural number for example has a lot of interesting properties.
 
@alan2here Yeah. there are infinitely many functions with the same properties at this one.
 
Useful for plotting values in the range of 0 to infinity on a graph of finite size.
 
Arctan is easier for that
0=0,pi/2=Infinity
 
10:01 AM
but, then again tangent or 1/x is perhaps similar, this seems more elegant for this use
arctan, one moment
lol, ok :) maybe scaled to 0 - 1 instead of 0 to pi where appropriate.
it's much more complicated conceptually
 
10:15 AM
@Hippalectryon Maybe I should propose that one in some magazine.
 
@Chris'ssistheartist why not :P
@alan2here why ?
 
@BalarkaSen tell me your wonderful ideas when I can understand them, okay? I expect you'll write a paper or something on the connections you're finding. :)
@MatsGranvik Uh, work with one Erdos collaborator, and carefully cut off $\sqrt{2}-1$-th of another off. Collaborate with both. Profit.
(Note: I'm not responsible for what happens if anyone follows this :P)
 
@SohamChowdhury nah. i bet these have already been thought about.
anyway, i don't want to write a paper. i want to have fun doing math :P
 
Because 1 - 2^x is simpler than something requiring a sin and a co-sin, and because it halves to distance to y being at 1 every 1 x.
 
0
Q: Can there be two group homomorphisms $G\to H$ with the same kernel?

Soham ChowdhuryConsider two groups $G$, $H$ and let there be homomorphisms $$\eta_1, \eta_2: G\to H.$$ 1) Let the kernel of both homomorphisms be $K\triangleleft G$. Must $\eta_1 = \eta_2$? 2) Let the kernels of $\eta_1$ and $\eta_2$ be $K_1, K_2\triangleleft G$, with $K_1 \cong K_2$. Does this imply $\eta_1...

Any clue? You weren't here, so I asked on main.
I'll try working it out now.
 
10:27 AM
@alan2here But what's the practical use ?
 
@SohamChowdhury yes, there can be.
 
hmm, example?
I bet those are with trivial kernel.
 
$\eta_1 : \Bbb Z \to \Bbb Z/2\Bbb Z \times \Bbb Z/2\Bbb Z$ given by $\eta_1(x) = (q(x), 0)$ has kernel $2\Bbb Z$. $\eta_2$ is the same with the second factor. $q$ is the quotient map.
ack, no, wait.
 
ach. answer it, then.
 
let me mend this.
right. there you go.
 
10:30 AM
quotient map? as in mod 2?
 
yeah
$q : x \mapsto x \pmod 2$
 
Plotting values between 0 and infinity in a space between 0 and 1, like arc-tan but more elegant, I'm afraid is the only one I can think of. The other nifty properties are an added bonus.
 
@Hippalectryon The questions I propose on channel here are in general very easy problems to say it right. I might show you one day what hard means to me.
 
you're back to doing algebra, then, @SohamChowdhury?
 
for a little while. just want to finalize my knowledge of group theory.
 
10:40 AM
@BalarkaSen: hello
 
er, hi.
@SohamChowdhury nice.
 
don't like leaving stuff unfinished. probably should get done today evening.
just the isom thms.
then I'll think about SESes.
 
I have a question have about integration, could take a look at this goo.gl/S5LECa
 
remind me what the problem you gave me was, @Balarka.
 
@Soham $\Bbb Z_2 \to G \to \Bbb Z_2$ be a short exact sequence. classify such $G$s upto isomorphism.
 
10:43 AM
okay. then you'll tell me the hom. alg. result, right?
(also, have you ever studied homological algebra?)
 
note that I don't want you to solve the problem above. just fiddle with it, and come up with a good guess (don't google!)
 
oh, this chapter also includes group actions and Cayley's theorem!
@BalarkaSen okay :D
 
yes, I'll tell you about the hom. alg result. I have never studied homological algebra, no.
 
I guess it requires heavy machinery, then, to solve fully?
 
I just know the basics I needed to study singular homology.
 
10:44 AM
hmm.
 
@SohamChowdhury not really. you need a trick, though
 
don't tell me.
 
ok
actually, @Soham, you need the lemma I haven't told you yet. otherwise a lot of work is needed.
so forget about proving it.
 
ehh.
okay.
 
come up with a few good guesses, I'd be convinced you understand the language of short exact sequences.
 
10:50 AM
righto. will do.
 
Using imaginary numbers with it, for the question "What is the probability of having rolled a given value on a (2 + i) sided complex dice at lease once by 5 rolls, the answer is (0.012... + 0.013... i). Seemingly more rolls of a complex number sided dice can decrease your chance of ever having rolled something at all.
 
11:02 AM
sorry, miscalculated, is (1.012... + 0.013... i), still answer makes no sense :P but neither do complex dice faces
maybe with entanglement
 
Hello @Balarka
How does one draw category theory diagrams here?
 
11:23 AM
You can only draw square ones. Why, did you just crack open Kashiwara and Schapira? :P
 
Kashiwara and Schapira ? What on earth are these@SOham
 
$$\begin{array}{ccccccccc}
0 & \xrightarrow{i} & A & \xrightarrow{f} & B & \xrightarrow{q} & C & \xrightarrow{d} & 0\\

\downarrow & \searrow & \downarrow & \nearrow & \downarrow & \searrow & \downarrow & \nearrow & \downarrow\\

0 & \xrightarrow{j} & D & \xrightarrow{g} & E & \xrightarrow{r} & F & \xrightarrow{e} & 0
\end{array}$$
@Rememberme Never mind. Try looking at the code and figuring it out.
 
This is super tiring... But lets see
 
@robjohn really nice answer here : math.stackexchange.com/questions/141470/….
 
Okay you back to doing algebra then ?@Soham.. Though I require it for altop...
Ahh... ANT is so cool... isn't it?
 
11:26 AM
Just for a little while.
I'm slowly getting the four isomorphism theorems down.
 
Good .. then exact sequences will be in your grasp wont it ? @Soham
 
They already are, but I haven't thought much about them.
I mean, I understand what they are.
 
I guess they are largely involved in altop... bananas keeps on talking about them
and Balarka too
 
Who was asking about drawing diagrams here?

Graphs:

9 nodes, 12 edges: 田
a -> b, a -> c, a -> a, b -> b, c -> c: Ꮬ
More graphs: 中, 甴, ㅂ, 亽

Sorry, the last broke.
 
@Rememberme Yes, in much the same way that we talk about functions. Those homological algebra-ish thingies appear a lot in "higher mathematics". Nothing special about algebraic topology per se.
@alan2here lolno
 
11:58 AM
Hi @Karim
@Soham you interested in ANT?
 
i see $f_u(s,0)=0$ do you see an other condition ?
 
@Rememberme Algebraic? Yes, extremely, but it's for later.
Did you see my blog post?
 
Same here but its later....
 
you have a blog?
 
Have you heard of the Kuratowoski(spelling might be wrong) complement problem @Soham
 
12:05 PM
eh. scrap that second o.
that guy invented the def of "topology" that we use nowadays, iirc.
 
Isn't it amazing .... though a question due to that problem automatically arises in my head...@Soham
 
Heh, seems easy.
(or at least doable)
 
@Soham try writing down a proof (if you are not busy)... Then I will tell you what problem I am thinking about
 
12:36 PM
I saw the proof on Wikipedia. :P
@Balarka, @Tobias, anyone else: is there any nice proof of epi $\implies$ surjective in $\sf Grp$?
 
not sure about "nice"
 
Are there kuratowski -14 set of infinite cardinality
 
what's a kuratowski set?
 
A set in which if I apply complementation and closure as a function then I can form no more than 14 sets @BalarkaSen
 
I can't parse that.
nevermind, I googled. the closure-complement theorem is nice, I didn't know it existed.
 
12:48 PM
Ammm.....
Let A to A closure be a function and complementation from A to X-A(where A is a subset of the topological space X) .
If I apply these two operations successively I can form no more than 14 sets @BalarkaSen
@BalarkaSen its there in munkres though .... But I wasn't able to prove it
So my question is there an example of an uncountable infinite set which is a kuratowski set@BalarkaSen
 
looks more like a combinatorial problem though
I am not willing to think about it right now.
 
Okay...
 
@BalarkaSen please what is the name of "0" which satisfy $f(0)=f'(0)=0$
 
Ooooooooo, I just calculated another amazing integral!
 
1:13 PM
-1
A: Eliminating Gibb's phenomenon, and approximating with jumping functions in Fourier Analysis : An attempt and a question in this regard

Rajesh DSome progress : getting expression for $I^f_{\omega}(t)$ which we here on simply denote as $I_{\omega}(t)$ Let $$Z_{\alpha}(t) = f(t)\ast\frac{e^{i\alpha t}}{t}\tag{1}$$ and $$R(\omega) = |F(\omega)|$$ and $$g(\omega) = \int_0^{\omega}R(\alpha)d\alpha$$ then $$I_{\omega}(t) = \frac{1}{g(\omega...

 
1:55 PM
Are time and energy inversely related? Some mathematicians have a lot of energy but no time, while other mathematicians have a lot of time but no energy.
 
they are definitely related...
...perhaps ask on MathOverflow :P
 
@skillpatrol I already found the answer on yahoo.
 
share please
 
thanks pal :-)
 
2:11 PM
@Gato Thanks!
 
I managed to tie my shoelaces without experiencing immense pain. I am a big boy now.
 
What happened?
 
@skillpatrol I got sciatic pain and stiff muscles in my left leg a month ago. I am recovering now, it seems.
 
What did the doctor say?
@robjohn N3b hasn't been around for a month?
 
@skillpatrol Hmm... I didn't talk to them enough to know why that is.
 
2:23 PM
@robjohn me neither :-/
perhaps @Chris'ssistheartist would know?
iirc he was working on an integral book too
 
@skillpatrol I don't know either, sorry.
 
@skillpatrol He was on the main site yesterday, and on chat 17 days ago
 
@skillpatrol In my case my aim is to publish the best book on integrals, series and limits ever (as a collection of problem and solutions), not for the sake of being the best, but since I'm just a self-educated, I wanna prove myself that with the only resources I have from self-education I can reach the sky and more beyond.
I'll do it, I have no doubt.
 
@robjohn Thanks for looking into that :-)
 
I'm always in a contest with me only. Not interested in other type of contests.
 
2:31 PM
like an athlete :-)
 
@skillpatrol Yeah, I wanna beat myself d*mn hard every day. :-)))
 
@Hippalectryon Salut, tu serais où je pourrais trouver en ebook ce livre : Gödel, Escher, Bach : les brins d'une guirlande éternelle ?
 
@Hippalectryon merci!!
 
2:34 PM
c'est un site magique je suppose ? :p
 
@Gato exactement :D et merci pour le lien
 
2:51 PM
je vais lire le premier, j'espère qu'il est cool
le deuxième*
 

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