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5:01 PM
@Gigili : Did you find me asking your location odd....? If so then I am sorry for that...I just didn't know the etiquette in here
more over I am from a place where such a question is not odd
 
Hi @Dylan : )
 
Yes, nothing is odd in India.
 
@Gigili : What do you mean
?
 
I imagine that would apply more to Japan...
 
@anon : Please list things which i can/cannot ask female users in this chat room......It might be useful
 
5:08 PM
Well, you can ask them anything that fits into the textbox, it's a matter of atmosphere and subtext regarding what kind of vibe you give off to certain people (which is never easy to tell at first). Asking for personal information would be odd (but I note that you idly poke for that info on users of interest to you male or female - people might not know that about you when they first talk to you though). Bottom line is waiting to know people better.
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remove it
 
@anon Well said.
Hi @Gigili.
 
I always thinks it is strange
when people know me, and I have no idea who they are.
 
@anon : I was really annoyed at your comment to me "What the Hell...did you ask ASL"......I didn't like its tone and taste.....I really feel offended
 
Hi @MattN.
 
5:11 PM
Or when I do not know my friends names, after 6months. I cant really ask them either, it would seem awkward.
 
what is ASL?
 
Anons sexy ladyfriends?
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@Rajesh: Hmm. I thought it was really amusing that you were asking, not that it was something you should feel bad about. I apologize for not communicating better there.
 
@RajeshD And, Sorry if I was another source of offending but I think I was putting things you in a very friendly manner. : )
 
anyway guys I feel sleepy and I do not know what I am talking.........goin to sleep...bye folks
 
5:14 PM
later
 
Good Night @RajeshD
 
@ymar Resit it. I'll help you study for it. I've done the course and got a reasonably high grade but I can't remember any of it. So I'd like to brush up. What do you think of this? (It would have to wait til August though because I have a ton of stuff I have to do before that.)
@KannappanSampath Didn't you go to bed some time ago?
 
@MattN ^^
 
I had gone and I came up again when some discussion came up. I for some reason find it hard to say I am going to bed because, I wake up when I see some discussion up here. I leave the laptop open. : )
 
Thanks to you guys I was able to solve a riddle from my friend, you guys are awesome! except Asaf, but dont tell him!
 
5:17 PM
@KannappanSampath That's not good.
 
$$x(x+1)(x+2)(x+3) = 1680$$
 
Seriously. Do you ever get proper sleep?
Anyway, afk for now.
 
Sleep is overrated, my bedtimes range from 12-3AM and I have to wake up at 7AM most days.
 
@MattN I think I do. I am not sure though. My sleeping habits are bad. : (
 
I think I also leave you
 
5:22 PM
when someone asks me asl, i always say: cenazoic/yes/here
 
age-sex-location?
 
as for Gigili, i know she's female, her age is irrelevant, and she's not within arm's reach, so location is also irrelevant
 
Reminds me of a joke
P1: Name please
P2: Achbar
P1: sex ?
P2: Yes please
P1: No I mean man or female
P2: Yes, man, female, dog, sheep
P1: Holy cow!
P2: Not cow, they run to fast
 
@DavidWheeler now I also know that she is female
 
@Ilya well it's not immediately obvious, i agree, but it has been brought up in chat before
 
5:26 PM
@DavidWheeler oh man, that was an ambiguous typo of mine :D
 
i love ambiguity...i've taken it out to dinner a couple of times, but it's always ended awkwardly
personally i've always found romance and math to be at odds with each other, thoughts of one sort of diminsh the capacity in the other
 
How would one interpet this question geometrically?
Is it a cube of radii 2, centered in origo. And the density increases as one comes closer to the origo ?
 
It feels like you're a theoretician.
 
@DavidWheeler untrue
 
@N3buchadnezzar what is untrue?
 
5:36 PM
Hi @Gigili
 
Ello @Skullpatrol.
 
How's life? @Gigili
 
@DavidWheeler math to be inverse proportional to romance
 
@N3buchadnezzar I think you're missing a math somewhere in there
 
@Skullpatrol Life is life, I can also resend the youtube video if it helps.
 
5:38 PM
Teehee ♪
 
@Gigili hi jiggily!
@N3buchadnezzar well YOU may be in love with math, but i'm a ladies' man, myself. but hey...i'm open-minded
 
'Ello David.
 
Nothing says I love you more to your girlfriend than
 
@Gigili No you don't need to resend the youtube video, I'm sorry if you were offended in any way by that video reference...
 
@N3buchadnezzar i'm reminded of the joke of the mathematician's wife. Wife: you don't love me anymore. Mathematician: Surely I do! Wife: Prove it! Mathematician: let $\epsilon$ be greater than zero....
 
5:42 PM
Nothing says "I love you" more to your girlfriend than
$x = 16 \sin^3 t \, , \, y = 13 \cos t - 5 \cos(2)t - 2 \cos(3t) - \cos(4t) \, , \, t \in [0,2\pi]$
 
the heart curve?
 
@DavidWheeler One of them =)
 
@Skullpatrol Why would I? A video cannot piss me off or at least not reported yet. I was answering the question the way you like better.
 
@Gigili ;-)
 
@Skullpatrol i took her reply to be her attempt to reply in a language you would understand
@GraceNote hello, grace! are we amusing you?
 
5:46 PM
I love minecraft, the only game where it is appropriate for me to stroll around with my bitches and hoes.
 
@DavidWheeler I'm not exactly amused by the events going on now, but that's not to say I'm not in a positive mood. Just not amused.
 
@DavidWheeler Thanks for the help. Have you heard the joke about the married mathematician who has a mistress because then the wife thinks he's with the mistress and vice versa thus giving him more time to do mathematics.
 
@GraceNote how come?
 
@DavidWheeler Nothing particularly amusing is happening, is all.
 
@GraceNote oh, we're boring, are we? fine! be that way!
 
5:53 PM
I amused myself by correcting N3buchadn's mis-message. But other than that, it's all currently math talks (which, well, yes, this is the Maths room)
 
I amused my self by doing
 
@GraceNote well it's like that sometimes. sometimes we talk integrals, other times we talk about Asaf's drinking problem and poor study habits
 
@DavidWheeler I am mighty curious about the Year of the Sloth thing I see on the right
 
@GraceNote me too! i have no idea what he meant by that....
 
5:58 PM
Whilst other solve crosswords in the morning, I try to figure out the starred messages in chat.
 
@GraceNote Click on the date @DavidWheeler
 
Oh, it's because of the Chinese Zodiac
 
yes
 
(Or whatever the proper term for that Zodiac system is to be called)
 
Asaf's stickied comments make sense about 50% of the time just FYI.
 
6:00 PM
Is there any sites that has many integral questions being posted regularly?
I know about this site, and AOP, but are there others?
@anon 90% of the starred messages makes no sense, in retrospect.
 
well, physicsforums.com mathhelpforum.com and mathhelpboards.com all have calculus sections
 
@DavidWheeler I tend to stay away from PF.
 
well i've been forced to...lol
 
@DavidWheeler ;)
 
leo
hi a.e
 
6:07 PM
@leo Hi leo
 
@anon This is the point of stars, honestly, haha
 
leo
reading some elementary number theory
 
I am reading some elementary adult manga
Educational purposes ofcourse, I am learning japanese.
"ana ga chigau" means wrong hole =)
 
6:22 PM
@N3buchadnezzar Good to know ;-)
 
surely that's a reference to homological miscomputations
 
Topology
 
@anon There are other possibilities
 
Japanese girls needs to study more geometrical topology
 
@N3buchadnezzar I hope that helps
your educational pupose.
 
6:37 PM
Now I only need to practice saying "Does this smell like chloroform" in japanese=)
Attracted? My only goal is to make them sleep
 
6:57 PM
I would've gone for foomu over faamu.
 
chuckles
 
@GraceNote I thought of that, actually : )
 
@MattN I see you got your left eye back
 
This might be weird, but I thought about something.
 
Do tell...
 
6:59 PM
If we think about the reall number line, it is equally spaced numbers running along the "x"-axis. From a geometrical point of view
 
Yes.
 
Along the y-axis we have defined that the imaginary numbers lie
What about the z-axis?
 
what z-axis?
 
@GraceNote You're right. kuroroforumu it is, apparently : )
 
Is there a number line perpendicular to both the imaginary and real axis?
 
7:01 PM
You want some kind of ring that doubles as a three-dimensional vector space over a field of characteristic zero?
 
@MattN Really, forumu? I really would've gone with foomu. But... I s'pose it still works.
 
@N3buchadnezzar Hypercomplex numbers could be used for the other axises.
 
@GraceNote Yes. Although I have a feeling that I won't be using this word very often : )
 
@MattN Very true, haha
 
7:06 PM
{j, 2j, 3j, ...} could be used for the z-axis
and why stop there {k, 2k, 3k,...} could be used for the t-axis
that is what I meant by "hypercomplex"
In mathematics, a hypercomplex number is a traditional term for an element of an algebra over a field where the field is the real numbers or the complex numbers. In the nineteenth century number systems called quaternions, tessarines, coquaternions, biquaternions, and octonions became established concepts in mathematical literature. The concept of a hypercomplex number covered them all, and called for a science to explain and classify them. The cataloguing project began in 1872 when Benjamin Peirce first published his Linear Associative Algebra, and was carried forward by his son Charles...
{|class="wikitable" align="right" style="text-align:center" |+Quaternion multiplication |- !width=15|× !width=15|1 !width=15|i !width=15|j !width=15|k |- !1 |1 |i |j |k |- !i |i | −1 |k | −j |- !j |j | −k | −1 |i |- !k |k |j | −i | −1 |} In mathematics, the quaternions are a number system that extends the complex numbers. They were first described by Irish mathematician Sir William Rowan Hamilton in 1843 and applied to mechanics in three-dimensional space. A feature of quaternions is that the product of two quaternions is noncommutative. Hamilton defined a quaternion as the quotient of ...
@N3buchadnezzar I hope that helps
your educational pupose.
 
7:32 PM
@MattN Thank you for the offer. Unless something changes, I will re-take this class in August and ask you for help.
 
@ymar Looking forward : )
 
I see something's wrong with Kannappan. Did he leave the site?
That would be very sad.
 
@ymar Eh?
 
@GraceNote Eh?
 
@ymar I meant, "Eh? Kannappan is leaving? Where'd you draw that from?"
 
7:36 PM
He was thinking about it, but thanks to the persuasiveness of the members of this chat room he changed his mind. Good job people
 
Good job, indeed.
 
@ymar No, he has calmed down. He'll stay.
 
That's good news.
 
@MattN You were particularly swift at calming him down Matt.
 
Right. I am back from my folks. 32 more exams to grade and I am done!
Also, I got incredibly close to capping out over one answer. Sweet.
 
7:39 PM
@MattN Goody
 
@Skullpatrol I didn't do anything. If you look at the transcript you will find that teddy talked him out of it by walking him through his answer that got down voted. Here's the end of it.
 
Hi Grace.
 
@MattN Didn't you tell him to sleep on it?
 
@Skullpatrol Yes but I felt like I wasn't getting through at all. And then he got down voted again today.
 
@AsafKaragila Hi. Every time I see you, you're either working furiously on some test/assignment, or handling tests/assignments that others worked furiously on.
 
7:44 PM
@GraceNote That is an equivalent definition of a grad student, you know.
 
@AsafKaragila Heh, I see
 
Did you make any progress on that thing we talked about the other time, for owners to be able and enforce rules?
 
@MattN Teddy and you did a "Masters and Johnson" on him.
 
@AsafKaragila Progress but no headway
 
Well, let me know if there's something new on the topic.
 
7:48 PM
Shall do
 
Hooray. First exam: nothing to grade! :-)
 
@Skullpatrol I don't quite see the connection. Could you explain?
 
@GraceNote What kind of "enforcement of rules"
@ymar It is a joke!
 
@Skullpatrol Interesting! I've never heard of these two before. : )
 
@Skullpatrol I got that. But I didn't get the joke. :)
 
7:51 PM
But why are you mentioning them now? : )
 
@Skullpatrol See the chat rules pin on the right?
 
@ymar Sort of like Teddy and Matt being two psychologist.
 
@GraceNote Oh, he constantly ignores them. I have him on ignore, but I honestly think that when a chat moderator have a user on ignore it's a bad thing. I suppose that if real power were given to me I'd have to look at his action more closely.
 
@MattN Those were the only team of two psychologists I could think of at the moment.
 
@Skullpatrol Ah, I see.
 
7:54 PM
@AsafKaragila Oh, I see
 
@Skullpatrol Sure, don't worry : ) Whatever.
 
:)
 
Well, at any rate, @SkullPatrol, the essential thing is that currently, the only way I can enforce these rules is for me to suspend you for at least an hour every time you step out of line. So... yeah... kinda looking for something softer, so to speak.
 
@GraceNote Wot? Why would you suspend him?
 
Because if you add an extra $\ell$ to his name it has to word "troll" in it... :-P
 
7:55 PM
@GraceNote Thanks for using me as an example.
 
@MattN ...I'm not saying I would do so right now or that I have reason to. He's just who I'm talking to, that's why he's the subject of the sentence.
 
Oh! : )
@Skullpatrol It's probably not such a bad comparison, these two probably share my opinion that sex isn't something you can't talk about.
 
@MattN Would it really make you feel comfortable if I used you as an example when explaining it to Skullpatrol? ♪
 
I wish I had the slightest idea of what's going on.
Did someone break some rules?
 
(Nevermind that the whole thing is about how I'd like an option that isn't suspension, haha)
@ymar I don't know, I only know that you have some basic etiquette rules.
 
7:57 PM
@ymar We are planning a takeover. Soon the world will fall prey into our hands and everyone not doing set theory will be promptly executed! Muahhahahahahah
 
@GraceNote I'm not sure I follow, I didn't read your conversation with him. Are you asking if I allow you to suspend me for an hour?
 
LOL :-D
I mean seriously, am I the only one here that actually understand what's going on?
 
@AsafKaragila It certainly is amusing, now, isn't it?
 
Quite! :-D
 
@AsafKaragila I'm doing something else. I only responded to pings.
I missed that.
 
7:58 PM
@MattN Okay, I'm trying to explain to Skullpatrol about how in the current system, [a user] who breaks the etiquette rules posted on the right, the only recourse available currently is suspension. Rather than pick a random user (like, say, you), I just defaulted the subject of [a user] to the person I was talking to. If I had picked "Matt N." for [a user], though, it would come across oddly, wouldn't it?
 
@MattN You didn't ping me and tell me that, so I wouldn't know.
 
@GraceNote I see : )
 
Oh crap.
This guy got 54.
However I gave him a full mark on the answer I'm grading...
 
@GraceNote Not that it came across very natural. :)
Time to feed the cancer.
 
And no one will know!
 
8:01 PM
One of my teachers would always use a combination of a linear and a power curve on the grades so that everyone passed.
 
I'm... wait, wouldn't his final score be dependent on, among other points, the grade for the answer you're grading?
 
Well, if the grade is >54 then he passes and gets points for the homework.
If it's 54 or below he fails and that is the final grade.
 
@GraceNote Do you think it is proper etiquette for the room owner to call me a troll? "Because if you add an extra ℓ to his name it has to word "troll" in it." chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/3853168#3853168
 
@ymar Smoking is a nasty habit. Do you at least drink with that? :-)
 
@AsafKaragila Oh, so basically, what you give him right now determines whether or not he sticks around at 54 and thus whether or not you needed to grade in the first place
 
8:04 PM
@AsafKaragila No, I don't have any money left.
No wait. I just earned 50 PLN.
But I'm too lazy go get myself a beer.
 
@GraceNote Well, more or less. I grade a certain question. If someone didn't answer it then fine. Otherwise I grade it, and being the last one to grade these exams I calculate the aggregated grade and write it on the sheets and whatnot.
 
@Skullpatrol The "Be Nice" thing is why we have chat flags, actually, if you think someone is being offensive.
 
@GraceNote I think that 60% of what I say can be found offensive by passing chat users. Especially if people who approve the flags are not here to see the conversation.
 
In fact, almost everything anyone says is offensive one way or another.
@ymar What are you, a Buddhist monk?!
 
8:08 PM
@AsafKaragila I'm aware that chat flags are pretty borked. We have more than our fair share of wargh about it on The Bridge, heh
 
This is I almost never deal with flagging.
 
@AsafKaragila No, just a lousy chess player.
 
@GraceNote Do you think that calling someone a "troll" is "being nice?"
 
@ymar Well... you should study descriptive set theory. Prove that chess has a winning strategy! :-)
 
@Skullpatrol No, it's not all that nice to do, but that's why I suggested a form of action for you if you were seriously offended by it.
 
8:10 PM
@Skull: She's saying it's not being nice.
 
@AsafKaragila Yeah, then I'll try that with Go. :)
 
@anon I think she said that if he thinks that it's not nice he can flag.
 
@anon Thanks anon.
 
@MattN Are you a native English speaker?
 
@ymar No. German. : )
 
8:12 PM
@ymar Well, essentially all finite games are Borel and all Borel games are determined in ZFC (I think that open/closed games are even determined in ZF - and finite games are obviously clopen to begin with!) so Go has a winning strategy as well. I'll have to ask someone on Monday for that answer.
 
@AsafKaragila Aye, pretty much. I mean, my personal approach tends to be to just speak out if it's something that "Hey, that's not very nice" but isn't so bad that I'm truly offended by it.
 
@MattN Ah, I was wondering, because your English seems flawless.
 
@ymar Thank you but it's not (yet) : )
 
What the... @anon QUIT CHANGING AVATARS!!
 
@AsafKaragila But chess has draws too.
 
8:13 PM
@ymar Well, we say that in case of a draw the white player wins.
 
@AsafKaragila What's wrong with shifting avatars? ♪
 
@GraceNote It's confusing! :-)
 
Hey, I only do it like once a month.
Just for that Imma do it again. Now.
 
@anon Is this like a virtual period for you?
 
Hmm...
 
8:14 PM
@AsafKaragila Say that too all white players who think of their draws as losses. :)
 
@AsafKaragila (I used to change my avatar every couple of weeks between the different ones I have on all the sites)
 
@ymar Well, they can bite my shiny metal knife.
 
@GraceNote You were here for the entire conversation so the argument: @GraceNote I think that 60% of what I say can be found offensive by passing chat users. Especially if people who approve the flags are not here to see the conversation. Is not valid
 
@GraceNote You're not a chat regular and your avatars are closely related to each other in taste and colour.... :-)
 
@Matt are you here?
 
8:16 PM
@Ilya Only half. What's up?
 
@AsafKaragila Only in taste. Color is pretty widespread, heehee.
 
@GraceNote I'm colour blind... (partially, in a very strange and atypical way)
 
@AsafKaragila Oh? In what way?
 
@GraceNote Pink is really messed up and it affects most of other colours as well, as it screws a lot of shades in all the other cones (which are a bit screwed up as well).
 
@MattN: sure, never mind then. Did you finish reading Bourn?
 
8:17 PM
@Skullpatrol I'm not sure I follow.
 
@GraceNote When Asaf called me a TROLL
 
@Ilya No. I got bored. Then we watched the rest of yesterday's gruesome film.
 
@MattN What film?
 
@MattN meanwhile I'm translating this word, which film?
 
@Skullpatrol Yes. I'm not sure how that is counter or invalidating to his statement about whether his statements can be found offensive.
@AsafKaragila Ah gotcha. I do have a couple that aren't actually pink, but to be honest, a lot more have pink than I thought. I thought it was a lot more balanced between primary colors, haha.
 
8:19 PM
The Chaser.
 
@MattN Beer chaser?
 
I only really have 3 green images, and green's my favorite color!
 
@GraceNote He said things are taken out of context right?
 
@Skullpatrol I don't see that there
 
Can be considered offensive.
 
8:21 PM
He hasn't even denied that.
 
what's going on, folks?
 
In fact, I'm pretty sure his exact words include, in this very order, "60% of what I say can be found offensive by passing chat users".
No, I wouldn't be. I'm a piece of self-propelled artillery, after all.
 
Oh yeah, @Grace, is there a way to keep the chat rules pinned for eternity, or do I have to re-pin that every two weeks?
 
@Ilya Hi!
 
@ymar hi. so you're from Poland?
 
8:25 PM
@AsafKaragila Repin every two weeks
 
Drats.
 
@Ilya I sure am.
 
The way the system works offends me as a lazy person.
 
@ymar from where?
 
@Ilya Warsaw.
 
8:26 PM
You could consider putting it in the chatroom description - that's permanent
 
@GraceNote But then it's also too long, and it will offend General Discussion.
I mean, he is the general...
 
Haha
 
@Ilya You must be from a Slavic country too, right?
 
The current room topic for the Gaming main chat room is: General Chat Room for Gaming.SE. The main quarters of Gaming's SEI AskQuestion Mothership, wherein we compare and contrast the relative merits of LASERs and LAZERS and their patented applications in diamond making and cat exercising.
 
@GraceNote Do you see my point of view now?
 
8:27 PM
@ymar: did you guess from my name?
 
@Ilya Yup.
 
@Skullpatrol I don't see why Asaf's statement is invalid, no.
 
I'm Russian
 
@Ilya Which city?
 
@ymar Delft
 
8:29 PM
@Ilya That's not Russia. :)
 
I thought you were born in Mother Russia, Ilya.
 
I'm not there :)
@AsafKaragila I was. Although each time you say the M-word, I don't expect anything good
2
 
@ymar: most part of my life I was living in Volgograd, the former Stalingrad
 
I am going to get some coffee and whatnot.
 
8:31 PM
@Asaf: don't hesitate. 32 left?
 
@Ilya The specification wasn't necessary. I'm too young to remember that. :)
 
that's why I didn't wrote, the former Tsaritsyn
 
@Ilya And I thank you for that.
 
@ymar: a colleague and a friend of mine is from Krakow
 
@Ilya Are they mathematicians?
 
8:34 PM
that's one person :D and he is
 
:-D
Kraków has a great school of mathematics.
 
@Ilya 27
 
@GraceNote If you agree that calling someone a "troll" is offensive, and then happened to read the chat script of two trolls calling each other "a troll" Asaf is saying that that someone may flag the conversation as "offensive" right?
 
ok, guys, see you later
 
Bye
 
8:38 PM
@Ilya Bye
 
@GraceNote "60% of what I say can be found offensive by passing chat users".
 
@Skullpatrol Someone could flag it offensive, yes.
 
@JonasTeuwen ROFL.
 
@JonasTeuwen Congratulations!
 
8:43 PM
@AsafKaragila Yes...
 
I mentally put "FALSE" at the top and memefy you.
 
@GraceNote And what action would you take?
 
@anon I like that renewed avatar of yours. The next time you change it remind me to annoy you about it so you'll change again.
 
@Ilya See you later!
 
@Skullpatrol I myself would drop in and see what all was going on.
 
8:48 PM
I feel a little stupid having Japanese characters in there I don't understand, but otherwise it's very nice.
 
@anon Maybe a certain @MattN can translate those for you.
 
@GraceNote But that is my point you were here when he called me a "troll."
 
男 means man.
仏 is the Kanji for Buddha
@anon And the next ones I can't see. Do you have a bigger version of this picture?
white on white is hard to read.
 
@Skullpatrol I'm not sure what that point is.
 
The next one looks like 北 which means north.
 
8:51 PM
"Buddha Man of the North", that sounds like a cool superhero.
 
There are two more but it's impossible to read them.
 
@MattN: Sorry, my connection dropped out. Full image is here [nsfw]
 
Looks like a boob.
 
Oh my. That's not actually much better.
Let's see...
 
I am at work, but it's safe to open because I'm the only one in the entire building...
 
8:54 PM
Probably the one after 北 is 生 which is the kanji for life.
 
@GraceNote Matt said "Wot? Why would you suspend him?" then Asaf said "Because if you add an extra ℓ to his name it has to word "troll" in it" So suspend Skullpatrol because he is a troll.
 
And the very last one could be either 市 which means city or 師 which mean master. But the way it looks it's probably city even though master seems more likely on a mysterious picture...
 
"Master of the Northern Buddha Life", that's a good name for a 70's kung-fu moovie.
 
@Skullpatrol Yes, that is what Asaf interjected. That wasn't the actual answer, though, since we weren't suspending you for anything (nevermind for any allegations of being a troll).
 
Then we have 独 which means single/alone or Germany.
 
8:58 PM
Probably single/alone, given it's Ghost in the Shell.
 
台which is the counter for vehicles.
 
@GraceNote Yes that is my point: "allegations of being a troll"
 
@MattN Because Germany is single. I met her at the pub the other night and I drank her pretty... then we went back to my place and I woke up with a headache the size of The Third Reich.
 
I'm starting to suspect that these are either chosen by the artist (who can't read them) so that it looks nice or it's Chinese written in the old Chinese characters.
 

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