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5:00 PM
Depends what you call filler.
 
Even House of Cards is starting to creak a bit
 
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@originaluser B5 was a pretty great show.
 
@MadMAxJr And the one REALLY bad SFX moment
 
@fredley Season 3 was so boring.
 
@Sterno Stuff that doesn't add anything to the main plot. Pointless minor story arcs.
 
5:00 PM
@fredley Shows that do this are the worst.
 
@StrixVaria Kind of agree. It didn't have the pace of the first 2.
 
@StrixVaria Do you just not like anything ever
 
Like, the show has incredible SFX except for one specific scene that makes me burst out laughing
 
I'm happy to endure 6-8 less exciting episodes if the other 14 or so deliver
 
Hi I'm @fredley. If elected president of TV, I will enforce 3 episode seasons, so you won't be allowed to fill your shows with shit. VOTE FOR ME
 
5:00 PM
@Wipqozn Yeah.
 
@originaluser which one
 
@fredley You don't consider "for entertainment" to be a point?
 
@Unionhawk 6-8 is usually enough.
@Sterno But it's not entertainment, it's time-filling.
 
@GnomeSlice It's a scene with Londo and the little thing crawling up his leg
 
@GnomeSlice Seasons 1 and 2 of Dexter were great. Seasons 1 and 2 of House of Cards were great. Season 1 of Heroes was great.
 
5:01 PM
I mean, some shows are ENTIRELY filler, and they can still be fun to watch
 
and it's just like "a bloo bloo bloo"
 
@StrixVaria Exactly
@StrixVaria Episode 1 of V was great!
 
I like stories with an end. Not stories that run open ended until canceled.
 
@Sterno Nope, they're not allowed to be fun to watch.
 
@Sterno It just depends how the show si set up
 
5:01 PM
@MadMAxJr this
 
They have good episodes and bad episodes, but they're still all basically filler
Example: Stargate SG-1
Star Trek
etc
 
Some shows make the mistake of trying to be both. They might do one well, but do the other poorly.
 
@Sterno I think that's called "episodic"
 
I can't watch Star Trek because there's no overarching plot.
 
5:02 PM
Buffy? Firefly?
 
@Sterno These are designed to be episodic though.
 
Episodic shows are the absolute worst.
 
Ouch. Firefly. Just reopen the wound why don't you.
 
@MadMAxJr I think B5 strikes a good balance
 
I don't mind episodic.
 
5:02 PM
@MadMAxJr slices the wound open
 
@StrixVaria did you ever watch Sanctuary?
 
It has an overarching plot and several smaller arcs
 
The episodes of Firefly that addressed the main plot were good, and the rest of the episodes were awful.
 
@murgatroid99 You can't tell me that BBC's Sherlock isn't episodic
 
@Unionhawk Get the salt
 
5:02 PM
@GnomeSlice No.
 
I mean, yeah, you have Season 1
 
See, if Firefly had dragged on for 3 seasons, and got less good, would people love it as much?
 
You know what a great show that was was disappointingly cancelled after one season
 
@Sterno I've never watched it
 
Defying Gravity
 
5:02 PM
Welp, I Joss Whedon had another show canceled. Time to kill everyones favorite characters in movies and comics.
 
That show was awesome, but kinda trippy
 
Serious question
 
@fredley People still like Buffy, and it did that, so probably
 
@GnomeSlice Yeah, have you seen what the proposed ending was?
 
@Sterno Fair point
 
5:03 PM
@MadMAxJr I, Joss. A new film staring Will Smith
 
@Yuuki No... what was it
 
Also, don't forget: Fans are stupid.
 
Actually, Season 1 Buffy was pretty bad
 
Some people still think Supernatural is the bees knees, but it's been terrible for 5 seasons.
 
5:03 PM
@Sterno I never watched Buffy, started Season 1 on Netflix
 
@Wipqozn I'm halfway through season 10 and haven't been hating it like I hated 9
 
All I know is....
 
I'm not sure why.
 
I want....
 
Didn't make it that far.
 
5:03 PM
IT Crowd, to have another season. :(
 
@MadMAxJr British TV leaves you wanting more
 
American TV drives it to the ground
 
@MadMAxJr I can't stand that show
 
@Unionhawk Those things are deadly
 
5:04 PM
@Unionhawk shut up with your stupid puns
 
I tried watching it, but it was so bad
 
@fredley The rare good British TV show leaves you wanting more. Most leave me saying "WTF"
 
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@MadMAxJr I never loved Firefly the way everyone else seems to. Like it was good, but it wasn't nearly as good as general nerd nostalgia seems to make it out to be
 
I'M LOOKING AT YOU DOCTOR WHO
 
@Sterno That's because you lack the cultural context
 
5:04 PM
@Yuuki found it, reading now
 
I tried to watch Doctor Who but I couldn't get into it
 
I'm actually not that surprised it got cancelled, it was waaaay too trippy for the average viewership.
 
@AshleyNunn It was decent, it was some fresh ideas, but it didn't get to finish any of them.
 
It also made me hate all the stupid reddit fanboys that hated on big bang theory,a nd claimed it crowd was "smart humour"
No, it's actully really dumb
 
user15026
I liked a lot of the new Doctor Who, until series 6 or so
 
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5:05 PM
Now I am bored
 
@originaluser It's a kids show, and low budget. A lot of why people love it is nostalgia, and a kind of love for the tacky/crappyness of it.
 
IT Crowd was funny, but it certainly wasn't "smart humour"
 
It's almost ironic, but not quite.
 
@AshleyNunn That's because it got terrible at series 6
 
Let's all just agree that CSI:Wherever is the pinnacle of television.
 
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5:05 PM
@fredley I love Classic Who for those reasons
 
IT Crowd just made me feel better about working IT. Perhaps not so much comedy as therapy. :(
 
@SaintWacko It's a hell of a lot better than TBBT though
exactly
 
@fredley That's fair, I guess I just don't really go for that style. It's fun to mess with Doctor Who fans by making things up and claiming it happened in "the old doctor who" and they should know about it
 
@fredley I've only seen a couple episodes of TBBT, but it looks really stupid
 
The highlight of IT Crowd was "I'm disabled"
 
5:06 PM
Doctor Who with big budget CGI and not-terrible plots would be...wrong
 
@Sterno What about Here comes honey boo boo?
 
Brits excel at uncomfortable humor.
 
@Sterno I just chuckled out loud.
@Sterno Watch The Inbetweeners
I can't watch more than an episode or two before the anxiety overwhelms me
 
@Wipqozn Okay, when this room claims you are 'the worst', you're reinforcing the stereotype right there.
 
I don't have a hateboner for BBT or anything but it just seems to be a really mild show. People have sent me clips of the real zingers and it just doesn't seem very fun
 
@Sterno Most uncomfortable thing I've ever watched I think. The lead character was at school with me, so a lot of it is based on those experiences, which probably doesn't help.
 
@MadMAxJr Just let him dig his own hole
He'll reach the core pretty soon
 
I went to college with a person like Sheldon off BBT. Very smart, likes to lord it over others, does not understand people. You do not move IN with people like this.
 
@Wipqozn America does really excel at find the lowest common denominator
 
THE INBETWEENERS IS A SHOW ABOUT @FREDLEY: DATA ACCEPTED
Apparently I forgot how to backtick or something
 
5:08 PM
@Sterno This is surprisingly true. Watch it.
 
Someone is watching John Oliver in my office
About 50 feet away
and I can still hear it
 
> However, when it became clear that ABC wasn’t going to give us a big summer launch and not be promoted as well as we wanted, I was encouraging the studio not to sell it and go to Syfy. And in fact they did go to them, but they did it too late and after we already aired two episodes. I said, ‘would you guys buy this if we pulled it from ABC and give it to you for free on rerun and buy us into a second season?’
> But then you’ve already aired and you’re taking the wind out of Syfy’s sails, because they can’t promote it as ‘their’ show. And Mark Stern [Syfy Exec VP of Original Content] was very interested in it, but once it aired on ABC you lose your caché. And you’re done. But we could have survived on Syfy and done many seasons.
;_;
 
GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER AND PUT ON HEADPHONES, SLACKER
 
The end of last nights John Oliver is golden
He keeps up his FIFA promise
 
@fredley It's their superpower
 
5:09 PM
Kitchen Nightmares was a perfect example of US vs UK for me
 
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@originaluser Oh, this is a really good example, yes
 
US might still be entertaining but it's much more dramatic and silly
 
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Gordon Ramsay's UK shows = great
 
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His US stuff = screaming angry crap
 
UK version is very interesting and more in depth
 
5:10 PM
As an American I apologize for what we did to The Office.
 
I feel like the character arcs in reality TV never pay off!
 
@AshleyNunn Yeah... that now infamous Amy's Baking Company episode was just hard to watch
 
@originaluser US version is ridiculous and I love it
Mostly to boggle at the absurdity
 
@fredley FOX is a ridiculous network with some really dumb shows
 
I'd like to see them double down on the US version's premise
 
5:11 PM
@Unionhawk And some great ones
 
But mostly dumb-at-the-core shows
 
I'd probably be able to get into British TV more if everyone dropped those ridiculous accents.
STOP TIMING OUT MY GEMS OF WISDOM, SHITTY WORK NETWORK
 
@Sterno To them, we're the ones with the ridiculous accents.
 
@Unionhawk There is a whole page dedicated to you here
 
@MadMAxJr This is true
 
5:12 PM
@MadMAxJr Impossible
 
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@fredley I got bored, especially when it comes to Hell's Kitchen
 
@AshleyNunn I only watched a couple of seasons
 
@MadMAxJr Nope, I am from Ohio, this is how they teach radio people to speak.
 
And I watched them drunk with my housemates which helped
 
@Sterno I bet you hate the accents in the recent Dragon Quest stuff, too
You monster.
 
5:13 PM
I am the most provably not-accent-have possible
 
@Yuuki wtf that ending
 
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@fredley It started out more awesome but now it is just another reality tv show where peopel all yell at each other and screw up stuff and Gordon Ramsay hates everyone
 
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It's not really about food anymore
 
@AshleyNunn It used to be about food?
 
It's mostly that I can hear them sticking "u"s into everything. It's terrible.
 
5:15 PM
Fox actually sends the eliminated people to a week of therapy and psychiatric evaluation
 
@fredley What's weird to me is the concept that comedy series are short to avoid filler. IT'S A COMEDY. IT'S ALL FILLER.
 
@Sterno moustly, intou*
 
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@fredley It tried?
 
@Sterno That's...not how we view comedy
@AshleyNunn Ha
 
Anybody else watch the DARPA Robotics Challenge Finals Friday/Saturday?
 
5:16 PM
@MadMAxJr I tried to but they didn't know how to YouTube.
 
@Sterno Really great comedy is an art, and no amount of cheap gags and laughter tracks can approach it.
 
I think the solution to bad TV it to just read books.
 
@fredley I'm not clear how adding more episodes of IT Crowd would suddenly make those episodes "filler".
 
@StrixVaria Robosimian from JPL was a fantastic thing to watch.
 
@Wipqozn You're school librarian's dream child.
 
5:17 PM
@Wipqozn As of last week, I no longer have cable. It has been a non-event.
 
@JasonBerkan Yeah, I haven't had cable since I moved out on my own. I don't miss it at all.
 
You know, unless they're shitty
 
I have netflix and internet. That's all I need.
 
@Sterno Because you'd run out of class A material and start having to use class B
 
@MadMAxJr I watched like a team overview video or something that included that one. I was wondering why so many teams used humanoid robots and then that team made a ton of sense.
 
5:18 PM
@fredley I'm not sure I agree with the notion that "6" is the highest number of "Class A" material comedy episodes that can be created in a year.
BUT MAYBE
 
@StrixVaria Robosimian got classified as a humanoid robot because it can take the form of one. :D
 
You can't just bash out episodes of something like that once you've got the formula down.
@Sterno relevant
 
There were definitely some IT Crowd episodes I yawned through.
 
Look at this room in the future here. Is this a bug?
 
5:20 PM
@Sterno IT crowd isn't A grade material to begin with tbh
Black Books though
 
@MadMAxJr I didn't but a while back I saw this Japanese robot challenge where they all tried to build stupid robots that didn't work which then fought to the death
 
You should all watch Black Books
 
@fredley This has led me to an article about Naruto: The Abridged Series which sounds pretty promising.
 
Black Adder season 1 was awful
Season 2 was gold
 
It's about a book shop owner who hates everything
@Sterno 3: silver, 4: gold
 
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5:21 PM
@fredley This sounds like a thing I would like.
 
@AshleyNunn You would like it Ms Nunn
 
@fredley So @OrigamiRobot as a book shop owner?
 
@fredley Sounds right
 
@Unionhawk But drunker, and more Irish
 
Heh
 
5:21 PM
Knightmare is a British television programme for children and was broadcast on CITV from 7 September 1987 to 11 November 1994. An adventure game show, Knightmare involves a team of four children – one taking the role of the sightless dungeoneer, and the remaining three acting as their guide – traversing a medieval environment as they attempt to complete a quest and exit the dungeon, using their wits to overcome puzzles, obstacles and the unusual characters they meet along the journey. The show is most noted for its use of blue screen chroma key (an idea borrowed by Tim Child from weather forecasts...
 
And with Bill Bailey as his assistant, who loves everyone
 
Knightmare is the single greatest thing British television has produced.
 
@Sterno The nostalgia you hold for the shittyness of this is the same reason people love Dr Who
Actually that's a terribly cropped version
You can probably do better
 
The guy in the thumbnail looks a bit like Louis CK
 
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@fredley Then I will make a note to check it out at some point when I can
 
5:27 PM
It's on Netflix here, but don't know if it's overseas
 
checking
 
@fredley Use Hola!
 
Hulu Plus, looks like
 
@JasonBerkan Ha
 
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5:43 PM
@fredley I can get access to UK Netflix if I need
 
@AshleyNunn At least in the US, canistreamit says Hulu Plus only
 
Just use Hola
 
Quick question: I'm buying a graphics card. (GTX 750 Ti) MSI vs. EVGA vs. Zotac. Any thoughts?
 
@GnomeSlice hue
 
huehue
 
5:46 PM
@Mooseman I have an EVGA card and it seems pretty good
 
user15026
@Unionhawk the proxy provider I use lets me set my netflix to whatever country I desire
 
@AshleyNunn Fancy
Didn't Netflix threaten to ban people for that though?
 
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@Unionhawk I've not had an issue, and I've been using US netflix consistently for eons
 
So you're using Hola except not Hola. Got it.
 
user15026
5:48 PM
Yeah, effectively.
 
user15026
Costs me $5 a month. but it's served me well.
 
@murgatroid99 Ok, thanks
 
@Mooseman /r/buildapc would be a good place to check
 
@Wipqozn Cool, thanks
 
they've got a lot of resources in their sidebar, and the folks there are pretty knowledgeable.
 
5:52 PM
@Wipqozn Oh, yeah, I'll second that. They helped me build my current desktop
 
@Mooseman my wife's PC has EVGA and it's great
gpu with 2 fans is gonna be better than with 1 fan though
 
50 mins ago, by Wipqozn
Also, don't forget: Fans are stupid.
@Wipqozn Said so!
(I'm not sorry)
 
@Unionhawk stupid is irrelevant to performance
 
Fair enough
 
or, I guess in this case it's somewhat relevant
if fans = stupid, then stupid = relevant
hm.. I'll leave it at that
 
5:55 PM
The one issue I had with my video card (and I have no idea if it was manufacturer related) was that the driver just completely didn't work on the Windows 10 preview
 
Something that is stupid can be more effective than not having the thing at all.
I will give you that.
 
@murgatroid99 That's usually developer related, yeah
 
This is why I like you @Chippies, you work with my stupid puns, not against them
 
@Unionhawk aww, I like you too, @Unionhawk, but I'm married, sorry :(
 
:(
 
user15026
5:57 PM
ooooh, I am call shadowing and training this afternoon
 
user15026
This is hopeful
 
@AshleyNunn yay :)
 
user15026
@Ktash Boss sounded like the saddest panda when he mentioned it as a thing this afternoon, but hey whatever
 
user15026
Lunch first though
 
hullo?
Am I alive?
 
5:59 PM
@Unionhawk What is alive?
 

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