The Bridge

7:01 PM

@John Yeah, we're getting into the loot of Inferno Mines and he's just like "well, it would be a waste... Sea of Flame was never this generous"

"Yeah, Inferno Mines is generous with loot"

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot Look?

Origami Robot

@SaintWacko What are you using? Joystick?

kalina

are you guys playing elite right now?

Unionhawk

I'm not, for now, but I'm pretty sure they're out to peer pressure me into it

Tim Stone

peer-pressures

Fluttershy

7:14 PM

@kalina Yus.

Yuuki

Lazers

0

Q: What does TF2 coaching involve?

I've read the wiki articles on the subject of TF2 coaching, but none of them detail what is actually involved and what is expected of a coach. Can someone explain this in more detail please, as I feel that I might be interested.

team-fortress-2

0

Q: How can I safely defeat scythes and centipedes from crashed spaceships?

Typically my strategy for defeating enemies involves base defense - they walk through my turret kill room and I have a distinct advantage. This works very well for invading groups of humanoid enemies. However, when an ancient alien ship crashes, I have to go to them to destroy the object, or fac...

rimworld

James

@badp Thanks very much!!!

ElfSlice

►

...lol

gameoftheyear420blazeit.com

Origami Robot

@TimStone doit

Chippies

7:22 PM

GUESS WHO HAD CHAT SET TO ONLY SHOW HIGHLIGHTS!

<-- THIS GUY

explains why chat was so dead today

Lazers

-1

Q: Can I still play Steam games that have been removed from Steam?

As Steam gets more remastered titles (e.g. Metro Redux, Sleeping Dogs, etc.), their older counterparts are no longer available to buy on Steam (presumably to entice people to actually buy the remastered titles). Now, these "old" versions of the games are in my library, but will they remain there...

steam

Chippies

Something about EU, taxes and digital distributors, I can't be bothered to sum it any better

Lazers

0

Q: Automating clay/brick production

I'm trying to automate the production of bricks in Minecraft Agrarian Skies. I can produce clay blocks no problem (wooden barrel + water via fluiduct + dust via ME export bus), and obviously I can produce bricks from clay balls (redstone furnace + clay ball via ME interface). What I'm strugglin...

minecraft

Chippies

the title is a clickbait (imho), but the post itself does have useful information

Ktash

@Chippies As I have been fighting this exact thing for about a month now, I can say it is probably not going to be that big of an impact. Most of these companies will likely already have been having to do with this because they will have had nexus in that country

On a related note, international taxes are the worst

SaintWacko

7:35 PM

@OrigamiRobot Yeah

My PoV hat is translation controls, though

I need to get TrackIR

Yuuki

@Ktash One country needs to invent cold fusion and AIs and take over the world already.

SaintWacko

@kalina Yes

Yuuki

I vote The Bridge.

Ktash

@Yuuki Considering we struggle to rule ourselves, that may be a bit much to take on

Yuuki

Between @murgatroid99, @badp, and @StrixVaria, we have like all of Google already.

Ktash

7:36 PM

Though the political conversations would be fun

badp

@Yuuki I haven't been working at Google for 10 months.

Yuuki

@badp thatspartofthejoke.jpg

Unionhawk

@Yuuki That is literally, and figuratively, what they all say.

badp

@Ktash Is it naive of me to expect companies to absorb the taxation differences themselves?

Ktash

@Yuuki So what are we going to do tonight, Brain?

Yuuki

7:43 PM

@Ktash The same thing we do every night, Pinkie. Try to take over THE WORLD!

badp

THE WHITE SHIRT AND THE ELEPHANT

ESPECIALLY THE ELEPHANT

Yuuki

Oh boy.

Ktash

@badp Likely you won't see a difference in taxation because they are already taxing. If they have a nexus, that is, if they have any operations based out of an EU country, they have to charge VAT tax.

badp

ONE WEARS A TIE

Ktash

The major change in the rule will be how the charge between EU countries, but you should see that difference across the board

badp

7:44 PM

THE OTHER'S NOT AN ELEPHANT

I expect Amazon.it e.g. to already charge me Italian VAT.

Yuuki

Guys, I'm getting flashbacks.

Ktash

Yeah, Amazon already has to charge tax globally because they ship and have warehouses everywhere

Steam likely has EU servers, which means they will have to do the same thing

Unionhawk

@Yuuki YOU'RE A FLASHBACK

@Ktash I know in the US, they only have sales tax for washington residents because reasons

badp

At the end of the day, boxed games cost €59.99 pretty much all over Europe

despite varying VAT rates

Unionhawk

(reasons being because that's where Valve is)

James

7:46 PM

@Yuuki You dont mean those retro game systems do you?

badp

you just make more money in some countries and less money in other countries

Ktash

@Unionhawk Yeah, they have a nexus in the State of WA because that is where they are based, and WA has a law that the must charge sales tax rates for the point of sale (owners location). I don't believe they have locations elsewhere in the country, so they don't have to charge more tax than that

MBraedley

Okay, productive afternoon. Now I need to think about getting ready to head to my parent's tomorrow morning.

badp

Clearly Luxembourg should extend honorary citizenship to the entire continent

Ktash

If you ever feel that you need to figure out sales taxes internationally, just run away. Immediately. Run fast

James

7:48 PM

@badp Thanks again man in case you missed it :)

off to breakfast and apartment hunting for me today

badp

@James I didn't! I hope you enjoy it more than the original game, both because it's better and because you played the original 0 hours :P

James

Hopefully I can go into the holidays with just packing to do :D

@badp D: I own the Original!?

badp

@James TYL

Origami Robot

@SaintWacko Isn't that head tracking? I don't understand that.

James

@badp Well damn this is like getting 2 games now! :D

djsmiley2k

7:49 PM

Hey yall

Yuuki

@James Nah, @badp's capital "ELEPHANT" was reminding of this.

Dec 11 at 19:03, by badp

MAY I DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE CURTAINS AROUND THE STAGE, AND THE ELEPHANT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PARKED THEREIN

James

Ah :)

djsmiley2k

ok so why is one of the strikes in the strike playlist flashing on destiny D:

/me could ask a a question but you guys are fast :D

Unionhawk

8:08 PM

@Ktash That's standard country-wide

If they're based in a particular state, then they assess sales tax in those states

Or whateve

Lazers

0

Q: Flashing ! icon in Strike playlist on Destiny

In destiny on the strike playlist one of the items is flashing with a ! on it - now normally ! is a quest/storyline item but I don't see why this would show up in the strike playlist?

destiny

Ktash

@Unionhawk Sadly, no. Not for digital sales. It's really really complicated is the gist of it

Unionhawk

@Ktash Well I'm confused then. I do know here, since nothing is based in ohio, sales tax is not a thing. Technically, you're supposed to keep track of all your online purchases, and then pay sales tax at tax time, but technically nobody does that.

Ktash

@Unionhawk There are also economic nexus (if you make a certain amount of money), employment nexus (if you have employees there), and even some so weird as a nexus established because you went to a trade-show in that state (seriously)

And then there are states where there is still no sales tax for online purchases (and some with no sales tax, like Oregon)

And some that have a state-wide sales tax for digital sales instead of just the normal sales tax rate

As I said, if you ever have to dive into this stuff, don't

Yuuki

@Frank Most of the servers are open to character creation except Behemoth.

And like two others.

Frank

8:12 PM

@Yuuki Bwuh? That...sucks.

Yuuki

Yeah.

I'm playing a character on Lamia right now just to see how it works.

ElfSlice

OMG

outerwilds.com

cc @Fluttershy

Mana

it feels like my brain is melting :(

being hungover + sick sucks, feed me sympathy

Yuuki

8:27 PM

@Frank I can wait on Behemoth for another week or so. If it doesn't open up, I might join @ʞɹɐzǝɹ's server.

Mana

yaaaaaaaaaay

Lazers

-1

Q: can gta 5 be cross gen (xbox one and xbox 360)

Okay, so i just bought an Xbox one and i was looking through some sites to see if i could play with my friends that have Grand Theft Auto 5 on the Xbox 360, if i have an Xbox one If anyone could tell me if this is possible, it would be greatly appreciated. i have already tried: looking on the x...

grand-theft-auto-5

0

Q: Dispenser behavior in ps3 edition of minecraft

I recently was able to get the dispensers in minecraft ps3 edition to correctly place mine carts for the first time ever. I replicated the behavior around a dozen times, but now the exact same setup is dropping carts as items. What am I missing here? Everything is placed exactly the same. He...

minecraft

spugsley

WHO KITTY DIS?!?!?!?!

Yuuki

MBraedley

@Wipqozn you around?

badp

8:44 PM

@Yuuki WHY DO YOU SCARE KITTY.

@Ktash it doesn't help that you guys change the price the final customer pays based on the sales tax, so no one ever really knows what they're going to end up paying.

Ktash

@badp Yeah, that's always a little annoying to me. But now that I'm trying to start my own business, that model makes more sense to me. There are so many different rates for tax, it would be insanely hard to try and plan if sales in different areas meant different profit levels. Really hard to price things efficiently like that.

badp

@Ktash I appreciate that the system doesn't manage to be inconvenient on both ends :P

Ktash

@badp I'm so used to it, I've never felt it was really all that inconvenient. Especially since it is usually pretty easy to do a close calculation in my head. It's just sometimes annoying to me that I'm charged $X.14 and random weird numbers like that. But $X.99 isn't much better

Also, VAT tax is really annoying because I'm only taxed on value added, which seems really really weird and annoying to calculate

Like, I have to know how much the materials and such cost, and I have to factor that in to my taxation, and if that fluctuates, I need to compensate for that

I prefer the places in the states (and there are a few) that just list the post tax price and call it good.

Yuuki

@Ktash I also like the places that do that and have their prices at something even like $5.

Wipqozn

@MBraedley For a bit, yeah. What's up?

Ktash

8:55 PM

@Yuuki Those are my favorite places ever

MBraedley

@Wipqozn I'm thinking donairs for supper. What's a good place nearby?

Wipqozn

@MBraedley I'm not really a donair guy, so I'm not sure.

MBraedley

@Wipqozn Boo-urns!

badp

Yeah, prices to customers in EU are always VAT-included AFAIK

MBraedley

How can you call yourself a Haligonian?

Wipqozn

8:57 PM

I could count on one hand how many times I've had a donair, and it was all from the same place in upper tantallon.

@MBraedley I know. I'm ashamed.

MBraedley

21 hours ago, by Unionhawk

I HAVE BROUGHT SHAME TO MYSELF

Now fall on your sword!

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot It can be used to look around the cockpit

It's really well integrated into E:Dangerous

Unionhawk

@MBraedley Ew

Origami Robot

@SaintWacko But if you move your head, you're not looking at your screen anymore

MBraedley

@Unionhawk ... not that sword

Wipqozn

8:58 PM

@MBraedley You could try Pizza Delic. They make a good pizza, so I can only assume they make a good donair as well.

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot It has a multiplier

Chippies

@Wipqozn donairs are disgusting

SaintWacko

You look at the center of the screen, and your character is looking forward

Unionhawk

@Chippies YOU'RE DISGUSTING

SaintWacko

Look towards the edge of the screen and your character is looking sideways

MBraedley

8:59 PM

@Chippies flags as patently wrong

Unionhawk

...what are we talking about?

Chippies

and the donair sauce is even more disgusting

SaintWacko

Also, @OrigamiRobot, what's your commander name?

Origami Robot

@SaintWacko Still seems weird to me

@SaintWacko Origami Robot

MBraedley

@Chippies Whoa buddy, that's just going too far

Ethan

8:59 PM

for the hat: winterbash2014.stackexchange.com/on-the-road

does it just check the user agent

to see if your on ios

Origami Robot

@SaintWacko @Fluttershy and I are in mumble

Chippies

@MBraedley donair sauce makes me sick, it's like, sweet and not sweet at the same time

Ktash

@Ethan No, it's the app, not the site from that device

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot Friend request sent

MBraedley

@Ethan It might, but I doubt it

Chippies

9:00 PM

and you put that crap on a piece of spicy meat

it's like, what the actual fuck amount of clashing flavors

Ethan

oh

Unionhawk

@Ethan No, there's no way. It says the app.

MBraedley

@Chippies I hereby revoke your citizenship

Chippies

@MBraedley Joke's on you! I don't have one!

Ktash

Hating hats this year has been kind of nice

ElfSlice

9:01 PM

Yeah @Chippies is illegal

Chippies

unless you meant my Latvian citizenship, which I'm not sure why donairs would be relevant there...

MBraedley

@Chippies Not when you got married?

user15026

I like the idea of a donair better than the actual execution

Chippies

@MBraedley Hah, you have no idea

being married only allows me to be sponsored into the country by my spouse

user15026

It would be so much easier if marriage was a magic citizenship button

Chippies

9:03 PM

all that did was open a new way of getting into the country, I still have to go through a ton of paperwork

MBraedley

@AshleyNunn I can respect that. You're just an ignorant Ontario woman who hasn't seen the full glory of a properly prepared donair.

Chippies

I sent all the documents in last september, still waiting

user15026

@MBraedley I suspect that is actually it

Unionhawk

Man, I need to not watch capital cities music videos. So much beard envy happens.

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot What's the info?

MBraedley

9:06 PM

@Chippies Yes, I knew it wasn't a magic "Get into the Canadian Citizen Club" card, but I would have assumed that such a process would progress a little faster.

Lazers

0

Q: can the Pokémon missingno make a gamboy card blank?

Is missingno as dangerous as described on YouTube? Can he cause the game to decay while playing?

pokemon

0

Q: In dragon age is it just me or does the game push a dwarf character into being a criminal?

So i created a dwarf inquisitor and it seems to me like the game makes you a criminal.Like i know the back story,but i wanted my character to be like a guy raised to something he doesnt want to be,but you cant ever show that and when you should you dont have an option.

ps4 dragon-age-inquisition

SaintWacko

And is @Fluttershy Niro here as well?

Origami Robot

@SaintWacko get on steam

Fluttershy

@SaintWacko Yarp.

Unionhawk

Hmm... do I want to get late-lunch related food...

hmm...

hm

inb4 @Yuuki posts food

SaintWacko

9:07 PM

@Fluttershy Friend request sent

@OrigamiRobot Steam launching

Origami Robot

@SaintWacko Your name is blank for some reason :/

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot That's weird

Fluttershy

@Unionhawk You want to get Elite: Dangerous.

Unionhawk

Hmm

Really, I just wanted The Bridge to validate me going to get Chipotle or something right meow

At 4:00

Origami Robot

@Unionhawk Don't

Unionhawk

9:10 PM

DAMN YOU BRIDGE

I'm doing it anyway

Screw you bridge I make my own decisions

self defenestrates

...ow

I decided not to for reasons of laziness and also there's free food here

NOT FOR REASONS OF THE BRIDGE SAID DONT DO IT

badp

sounds legit

djsmiley2k

do eeettt!

StrixVaria

@Unionhawk CHIPOTLE IS SO GOOD DO THE THING

I'm now upset again that the nearest Chipotle to me is 20+ minutes away at a mall. Ugh malls.

Ktash

@Unionhawk Maybe I'll do that this afternoon...

@StrixVaria Hey! I live at the mall :P

Sterno

9:26 PM

Why is whether or not to get Chipotle up for debate? If you want some Chipotle, then son, get yourself some Chipotle!

and then be slightly disappointed it isn't Qdoba

ElfSlice

hah

It's a christmas present

djsmiley2k

now i want burger king D:

Frank

I'm heating up the last of my cheeseburger soup.

badp

Lazers

0

Q: Is there a way to 'paint' or 'fill' tiles in manyland?

Is there a way of 'painting' or 'filling' tiles? I'm filling in a large area of background tiles, and it's very laborious clicking and dragging every single one. Is there a fast way?

manyland

Unionhawk

9:33 PM

Hmm...

CURSE YOU BRIDGE NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO DO

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA‌AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA‌AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA‌AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA‌AA

Frank

@Unionhawk Get food.

Unionhawk

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA‌AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA‌AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

A

badp

@Unionhawk: BE MEGA SANTA.

Unionhawk

hrm

chipotle is delicious, but...

Hmm

I need to think about my life

Right now

Screw it, I can save a burrito bowl of I decide to do so.

Yuuki

Oh, I thought you had already decided.

In that case:

Sterno

9:49 PM

Spam

Lazers

0

Q: How do Chrono Trigger's iOS and DS versions differ?

The description on the App Store indicates that the iOS version includes some content previously exclusive to the DS version. Is it a direct port with tweaked controls, or are there other differences?

version-differences chrono-trigger

Sterno

@ElfSlice what game is that?

Chippies

@Sterno Scrolls

Sterno

I didn't realize that game was out. I figured it would be in development for 5 more years. Any good?

Chippies

@Sterno huh? It's been out for years

in beta

but freely available for purchase and the beta was just as good as most full releases

but yeah, it's fully released now as of few weeks ago and it's still good

they actually dropped the price quad-fold

from 20$ to 5$, because of the android release

and it's cross platform

badp

9:53 PM

did OnLive get rid of its demoing feature?

It's kind of literally the only thing OnLive is good for :|

it appears that it has

so it's gone from claiming that I was a user (although I wasn't buying anything) to not claiming I was a user

oh well.

Chippies

@badp if the only good thing about it was being able to use it for free, why were you even using it?

badp

@Chippies demos?

You could play 30 minutes of any game on the service.

Chippies

@badp alright, I misunderstood what you meant by demoing then, carry on

Hack'n'Slash is running really shitty for some reason

the fps goes up and down between 30 and 60 all the time, even when I stand still

and it feels very stuttery because of that

badp

I never would have bought Borderlands without first playing its demo on OnLive

they made such a shitty job of explaining what the game actually is.

Chippies

@badp you don't look up things on youtube to see what the game is about?

djsmiley2k

10:06 PM

@Sterno wuit

badp

@Chippies not if the game looks entirely unappealing to begin with

Borderlands is literally marketed as "DUDE FINGERSHOOTS SELF TO DEATH"

djsmiley2k

but he will spend 30min on a dodgy online service playing it

badp

@djsmiley2k dodgy?

Chippies

@badp so you spend 30 minutes playing a game before you even consider looking up a video of it?

badp

@Chippies yes?

Chippies

10:07 PM

well that just seems slightly backwards

badp

why?

playing the game for yourself is more fun than listening to some one drone on about what THEY think about a title.

djsmiley2k

30min vs 30 sec

Chippies

first 30 minutes of any game are rarely indicative of what the game is, whereas in videos you can usually tell what it is

djsmiley2k

mute and watch

pew pew pew

FFXIII being erfect example

badp

when you play the game you get to make your own mind, not just listen to others say just how much fun FTL is

Chippies

10:09 PM

I have not played 1st Borderlands, but in Borderlands 2, if I based all my opinion of the game based on first 30 minutes, I'd still be in the boring as balls tutorial mission

badp

FTL had an exclusive onlive demo which let me realize that FTL was not the game for me

Chippies

@badp you can watch the game being played, you don't have to just listen

you can even mute the video, the watching part is the important part

badp

HOW IS THAT MORE FUN OR ENGAGING OR BETTER IN ANY WAY

MBraedley

And now the post donair regret sets in.

Chippies

fun or engaging? probably not, but certainly easier to make an opinion of a game past the first few minutes

videos have a progress slider for a reason

skip to the middle of a video if you're in a rush

search for a review, which is a summary of the game

search for an LP of the game that's in the episode 10+

playing first 30 minutes in a game that's meant to be played hundreds of hours (Borderlands) is not gonna tell you much about the game

Lazers

10:12 PM

0

Q: In Animal Crossing: New Leaf, is the "once per day" limit on the dream suite a real-time day, or a game day?

You can update your town in the dream suite once per "day" to recieve 5000 bells. I'm curently time traveling inthe past to make up for not playing the game for a while. Will attempting to use the dream suite more than once in a real-life 24 hour range get me banned from uploading?