The Bridge

FAE

19:00

Okay, need to eat dinner right now. I'll read backlog and/or ping you more when I get back. >_>

Mechanical Loon

It's worth learning, though, because it gets so expensive as you upgrade it.

ElfSlice

Hey, anybody want to play Skydrift?

I promise I'll go easy on you.

But I probably won't let you win

Huh, I'm still the only person using that plane in the top 10 on that track

awesome

►

Ullallulloo

Humble Bundle just posted on Facebook

ElfSlice

@Ullallulloo Oh, nice, that's a great selection

Ullallulloo

The sale's not up yet though.

ElfSlice

19:04

Yes it is

humblebundle.com/weekly

Ullallulloo

Now it is.

ElfSlice

The Humble Weekly Sale featuring Amanita Design & Friends

Ullallulloo

Wasn't when I posted.

ElfSlice

That's a really great selection

@Fluttershy Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you buys Risk of Rain

Ullallulloo

@ElfSlice ಠ_ಠ

ElfSlice

19:07

Okay. No more games.

Wipqozn

@ElfSlice I'm so tempted to flag this just to be a jerk.

kalina

@3ventic updated one of your questions with the correct answer

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A: Is flashback usage limited?

Yes, the number of flashbacks is limited. The number of flashbacks you have available differs depending on difficulty, and is shown in the bottom left of the screen, next to the mini map;

ElfSlice

@Wipqozn =[

Wipqozn

I won't, but it's tempting.

ElfSlice

Everything I do is tempting

Ronan Forman

19:07

That's interesting, do they not do the over the average thing any more?

3ventic

@kalina thought as much

ElfSlice

@RonanForman Not for the weekly sales.

Ronan Forman

@ElfSlice Fair enough.

Wipqozn

well, I'm going home.

ElfSlice

@Wipqozn Peace.

Jason Berkan

19:09

Just so no one is amazed when it happens, but I'm going to shun the last two close voters on that Drag Racer question. He's clarified it - stop voting to close as unclear.

Yuki

> I'm so ~~tempted~~ handsome to flag this just to be ~~a jerk~~ handsome.

Frank

@JasonBerkan Not VTCing, but definitely downvoting.

Lazers

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Q: On my wii, Dance Dance revolution is greyscale

It used to not have this problem, but now it does. When I launch it in some settings it's greyscale, in some it's all one shade of green, and in others it does not even work. Please give me some advice. Not all my games are like this, only this one.

ElfSlice

@JasonBerkan It's still not very clear, if I'm honest. Could be any number of 'drag racing' apps.

ErraticFox

Frankly, I'm sick of hats any more. ಠ_ಠ

ElfSlice

19:13

Hats are always with us.

Mechanical Loon

@ErraticFox I can't parse this. It's the "anymore" that's killing it.

Frank

I keep getting hats, and I don't even want them!

ElfSlice

I think we can all agree I am the best at hats

ErraticFox

@MechanicalLoon there, happy? :D

Mechanical Loon

It's not a space that was causing the issue.

ElfSlice

19:14

I have two

Mechanical Loon

What on earth does that mean?

I eat cheese any more.

What's that mean?

ElfSlice

'I eat cheese now' in broken english

Frank

@ErraticFox Anymore doesn't belong in there. It's not correct English.

ErraticFox

How so?

Mechanical Loon

I've never seen it used that way before.

It's breaking my mind.

ElfSlice

19:15

@MechanicalLoon Get a less fragile mind.

Mechanical Loon

Because I kind of understand what he's trying to say but it's so wrong.

@ElfSlice Your face.

ErraticFox

You guys are wimps when it comes to English. -_-

ElfSlice

Seriously though, how about we stop railing on someone for poor English. You don't know where he's from or what language he speaks.

Mechanical Loon

@ElfSlice I'm not upset.

Yuki

@ElfSlice We know it's not English.

Frank

19:15

@ErraticFox No, we're programmers. Details matter.

ElfSlice

@MechanicalLoon I didn't say anybody was upset

Mechanical Loon

I'm trying to figure out where that came from.

ElfSlice

@Frank I'm not a programmer.

ErraticFox

@Frank excuses, excuses.

Mechanical Loon

"I can't stand hats anymore." That's a legitimate usage.

ErraticFox

19:18

@MechanicalLoon you're on the internet, it's bound to happen. No matter what. If you really are that uptight about it, then you need to reevaluate life.

Mechanical Loon

@ErraticFox If you think that I'm doing this for any reason other than that I like linguistics then you need to reevaluate the situation.

ElfSlice

Guys

Yuki

@ElfSlice I don't smoke.

ErraticFox

@ElfSlice no thanks, I don't smoke.

ElfSlice

Me neither.

Frank

19:18

@ErraticFox This statement makes me think of Assylum, and not in a good way.

Mechanical Loon

@ElfSlice Flagged as offensive.

ElfSlice

It's funnier than saying 'get along' though.

@MechanicalLoon ?

Yuki

@MechanicalLoon Validated as GnomeSlice.

ElfSlice

No, don't flag it.

I'm sorry.

ErraticFox

@MechanicalLoon I couldn't care less why you're doing it.

It's just sad how you made such a big deal about it.

Mechanical Loon

19:20

Pity all you want, I like thinking about word usage.

It's a legitimate field of study that I happen to find interesting.

Frank

Linguistics have never interested me, but logistics certainly does.

Everyone has things they like.

ErraticFox

Have fun doing that, but leave me out of it. Regardless how I type or speak.

Frank

And calling it sad just trivializes you, as you're essentially going, "It doesn't matter, it's not important"

Yuki

People tend make a big deal about things they like. Telling someone to not make a big deal about said things is like telling them not to like said things.

Powerlord

@Ullallulloo So, it's essentially a retread of the... second Humble Bundle?

ErraticFox

19:22

@Yuki so you're okay with this?

Mechanical Loon

What is there not to be okay with?

Yuki

I know I'd cut someone if they told me not to talk about Monster Hunter as much as I do.

Frank

@Yuki I'd be right there with you.

ErraticFox

For an example, people making fun of other people for their race or say sexuality?

ElfSlice

@MechanicalLoon Making a huge deal about someone's mistaken English. That makes them feel like shit

ErraticFox

19:22

It's what they like doing, so who's it hurting?

Yuki

@ErraticFox I hardly think @MechanicalLoon's making fun of you for your English.

Frank

@ErraticFox You're seriously bringing up racism as an equivalency of what we're criticizing you for doing?

ElfSlice

I talk about porn and I get told not to do that

Braiam

it's because you are the @ElfSlice ;)

ErraticFox

No, but you basically said "It's okay for them doing what they like to do"

"As long as they like doing it, it doesn't matter if it effects anybody else."

Yuki

19:24

He's telling you what correct usage is, not bludgeoning you over the head for being a moron. Which I'll go ahead and pre-empt and say that I don't think you're an idiot and I doubt @MechanicalLoon does either.

@ErraticFox I really, really want to point out incorrect usage of "effects" here...

ElfSlice

@Yuki You knew exactly what he meant.

ErraticFox

I type freely on the internet. Yes, I do try to type properly, but I'm also not writing an essay.

Jason Berkan

@Yuki Pedantry FTW!

ErraticFox

affects* sorry.

Mechanical Loon

@ErraticFox No one is telling you how to speak. I just found your usage of "anymore" interesting because I had never seen it before.

Ask @LessPop_MoreFizz about prescriptivism :P

ElfSlice

19:26

►

New CatDAMMIT trailer!

ErraticFox

You understood what I meant though, that's all that you should of had to do.

Mechanical Loon

@ErraticFox I can't believe we're still talking about this.

ErraticFox

I'm done now.

Mechanical Loon

Wonderful.

ElfSlice

I want this game a lot

Mana

19:27

We're still talking about it because he didn't like the way you chose to express how you found his English interesting.

I think that's legitimate, you were being a bit rude.

ErraticFox

@ElfSlice I feel as you are just being irrelevant to try to change the subject that was at hand at that moment.

ElfSlice

@ErraticFox Can you blame me?

ErraticFox

@ElfSlice no.

ElfSlice

Everyone is getting hostile. I just want to talk about video game

Yuki

> I just want to talk about ~~video game~~ roguelike.

Frank

19:29

Are we still doing that whole Artemis thing? cc @Wipqozn

ElfSlice

@Yuki ಥ_ಥ

@Frank Blagh I forgot about that. I'm probably going to have to pass on that now, no more game buying for me.

ErraticFox

I've been in this room for two days and it has hardly ever been about video games.

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ElfSlice

Heh

Mechanical Loon

What's a ~~video game~~ roguelike?

Yuki

> I've been in this room for two days and it has hardly ever been about ~~video games~~ roguelikes.

ElfSlice

19:30

Video Games

The place to be when you want to talk about video games!

Mechanical Loon

:12950088 OWNED

Yuki

@ElfSlice That room should be renamed to Roguelikes.

ElfSlice

@Yuki ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

Jason Berkan

@Yuki Or possibly even Indie Roguelikes.

Cause everything's Indie now as well.

Yuki

@JasonBerkan This is true.

OrigamiRobot

19:32

WHAT JUST HAPPENED?

ElfSlice

How do you change the description of an SE chat room?

ErraticFox

@OrigamiRobot stuff. Stuff happened.

Yuki

@ElfSlice There should be an edit button somewheres.

Braiam

@ElfSlice you need to be an onwer ;)

ElfSlice

@Braiam I am.

Of the room I just created.

ErraticFox

19:34

sarcasm

Yuki

@ElfSlice Go to the room info and you should be able to edit the room description.

ElfSlice

@Yuki Aha, roger that.

Yuki

Actually, better yet, you should rename that chat room to ~~Video Games~~ Roguelikes.

Mana

@Yuki Is there something I'm missing for why you keep doing this? It's getting old.

ElfSlice

@Mana A lot of recent indie games have been labelling themselves as roguelikes, even when they have like nothing to do with roguelikes at all

It's like the trendy thing to call your game a roguelike

Mana

19:37

ah

Fluttershy

@MechanicalLoon What game is next in your queue, since you've finished Cook, Serve, Delicious?

Mechanical Loon

@Fluttershy Bioshock Infinite.

Fluttershy

A good choice.

Mechanical Loon

I played the very beginning, and I hate the control scheme.

ElfSlice

@MechanicalLoon ~~Bioshock~~ Valdis Story

Mechanical Loon

19:38

I'm going to have to remap a bunch of stuff next time I play.

V to melee? Really?

F to interact instead of E?

It's like they've never played a PC FPS when they made this game.

Other than that, though, so far it's excellent (haven't even met Elizabeth yet).

3ventic

I know a popular game that has V as melee

but I don't remember the name

Trent Hawkins

@MechanicalLoon Really? ... F should be flashlight

3ventic

and it's not bioshock.

Mechanical Loon

Pissed off clown.

ElfSlice

Ew, keyboard controls.

Nothx

Mechanical Loon

19:40

@ElfSlice Playing an FPS with a joystick to aim is worse than Hitler.

2

ElfSlice

@MechanicalLoon Eh, the aiming may be better on the PC but literally everything else is nicer on the controller

Mechanical Loon

@ElfSlice The aiming is the most important part of an FPS by an order of magnitude.

Also I find circle strafing easier with WASD than a joystick.

Fluttershy

V to melee doesn't bother me. I got used to it playing Borderlands 2.

Mechanical Loon

I'm going to probably set melee to Mouse4 or Mouse5.

Fluttershy

But, once you get the controls set to how you want them, it's one of the best games of 2013.

OrigamiRobot

19:43

Middle Click to melee

ElfSlice

Playing any game with a keyboard is awful

Mechanical Loon

@OrigamiRobot I hate trying to middle click in the middle of a game.

ElfSlice

So much more comfortable to use a controller

Wipqozn

@ElfSlice @badp will probably delete that room.

Mechanical Loon

That's why I'm going to have some difficulty figuring out the control scheme.

ElfSlice

19:44

@Wipqozn ? Why?

OrigamiRobot

@MechanicalLoon What? Why?

Wipqozn

@ElfSlice Two reasons, this exists:

Gaming Discussion

Chat about gaming and games. No discussions about G.SE policy ...

ErraticFox

Playing StarBound for the first time, what should I expect?

Wipqozn

Second, it overlaps with The Bridge. I'm really surprised he never deleted Gamign Discussion.

Mechanical Loon

@OrigamiRobot It's a tiny-ass button that requires more force to push in than the other buttons.

In a place where my finger isn't naturally resting.

Meraj99

19:44

why do all mmorpgs have terrible huds...

OrigamiRobot

@MechanicalLoon I have my middle finger on the mouse wheel at all times.

Mechanical Loon

@OrigamiRobot I have my middle finger on right click.

OrigamiRobot

Gross.

Meraj99

@OrigamiRobot you right click with your ring finger?

user4704

@Meraj99 Because fundamentally most MMOs are giant spreadsheets with buttons. :D

OrigamiRobot

19:45

@Meraj99 Yes

Wipqozn

@Frank: Yes, we were talking about artemis earlier.

We need to plan it.

Meraj99

@OrigamiRobot meh, when i try that out, my mouse is too crowded

Wipqozn

If I thought about it I never would have mentioned it when I did to begin with.

Since I knew we wouldn't get around to doing it until the new year, because holidays are busy.

OrigamiRobot

@MechanicalLoon You're wasting two whole fingers!

ElfSlice

@Wipqozn I'm probably going to end up passing on Artemis for now.

3ventic

19:46

@ErraticFox Death and lots of disturbing sounds

Mechanical Loon

@OrigamiRobot I'll just use my thumb on the two buttons it has quick access to.

OrigamiRobot

@MechanicalLoon You're still wasting two fingers.

ErraticFox

@3ventic your question is where I got the motivation to download it.

ElfSlice

@ErraticFox Have you played Terraria?

Mechanical Loon

@OrigamiRobot I have tried having melee bound to mouse wheel down. That's better than middle click.

I've also tried having jump bound to mouse wheel up. That wasn't very good.

ErraticFox

19:48

@ElfSlice burnt myself out of the game before the first big patch and it's actual release...

Meraj99

@MechanicalLoon which basically means, youre gonna accidentally melee a lot

ElfSlice

@ErraticFox Yeah, I never really got into it either. Starbound is apparently very similar, but "better". I have friends who didn't like Terraria who really like starbound

So I guess they improved on the bad stuff

Mechanical Loon

@Meraj99 Never accidentally mouse wheel downed in my life.

3ventic

@ErraticFox If you played the last time in beta, you should play it again now

Mechanical Loon

I had nothing bound to middle click, if that helps.

OrigamiRobot

19:49

@MechanicalLoon I can see the logic there. Especially after playing Chivalry.

ErraticFox

@3ventic Terraria or StarBound?

Meraj99

V is prolly best.

3ventic

Terraria

ElfSlice

@ErraticFox Just skip terraria and play starbound

Trent Hawkins

The only thing I'll give controllers over Mouse+keyboard is that they are better in sections of a game where you don't necessarily want your forward movement to be "full speed ahead" or "nothing". Like, say, driving in GTA.

Yuki

19:49

@MechanicalLoon I don't mind F to interact, but I had to remap melee to middle mouse.

ErraticFox

@3ventic I've gave it plenty more chances, it's just not as fun as I play it the first couple of days.

3ventic

I wouldn't start with Starbound just yet...

Meraj99

@Yuki I use E to interact... default style.

Mechanical Loon

@Yuki I'm going to see if I can bind it to middle mouse down, otherwise I'll put it on Mouse4 I think. I don't like mapping things to middle mouse.

3ventic

Final character wipe will be included with the next patch, for everyone asking! So…as soon as possible. In 2014. ;)

Tweeted by StarboundGame on December 27, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Mechanical Loon

19:50

@Meraj99 In Bioshock Infinite, F is interact by default, not E.

ErraticFox

@Meraj99 E masta interact key

Meraj99

@MechanicalLoon What's Mouse4... the additional button on some mouses on the side?

OrigamiRobot

F should not be mapped to anything in my mind.

kalina

F is the best key for "use"

Mechanical Loon

@Meraj99 Yeah, for mice that have like forward/back buttons for web browsing, those are Mouse4 and Mouse5.

kalina

19:51

Mouse 4 should always be "reload"

ErraticFox

@3ventic why is everyone asking for it?

kalina

and Mouse 5 should always be "melee"

Yuki

@MechanicalLoon If Mouse4 is the thumb mouse button, then I mapped "Use Plasmid/Tonic/Serum/WhateverWe'reCallingThemThisGame" to that.

Meraj99

I use R for reload...

Mechanical Loon

@kalina R is reload.

kalina

19:52

no

3ventic

@ErraticFox because everyone wants to know if their characters will be wiped.

kalina

R is too far away

Mechanical Loon

@Yuki Oh yeah, that's another thing I have to figure out.

kalina

< tiny hands

ErraticFox

@Meraj99 what else could r be used to? ;)

OrigamiRobot

19:52

WASD for movement, E for use, R for reload, Ctrl for crouch, Shift for run

3

3ventic

Mouse 5 is dedicated for push-to-talk.

ErraticFox

@kalina that tiny?

Meraj99

@ErraticFox Some ability in some games? :P

Mechanical Loon

@3ventic I like always-on chat better.

kalina

@3ventic that's what Mouse 7 is for

OrigamiRobot

19:52

If it uses many more buttons than that for regular play, it's probably not a game I'd like.

Meraj99

@kalina What is Mouse 7...

kalina

@ErraticFox it's way easier for me to just stick to QEWASDZXC mouse 1-9

3ventic

@Meraj99 the 7th button..

ErraticFox

ALT FOR CROUCH

Meraj99

@3ventic There are 7 buttons on some mouses? o. o

Lazers

19:53

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Q: Minecraft launcher (1.3.7 for 1.7.4) is not working!

This is why it is not working: links are either broken or not working properly because of a glitch,etc. it says "welcome, **! ready to play minecraft 1.7.4." but when I click on the button "play" it does not launch the game like the past times I played minecraft. the scroll is not working when...

minecraft pc

ErraticFox

Use one finger for jump crouch.

3ventic

@Meraj99 There are mice with more than 7..

ErraticFox

@Meraj99 some with 12.

Meraj99

@3ventic You prolly need 15 hands to use that...

Yuki

@Meraj99 I've seen a mouse with an entire keyboard on the side.

kalina

19:54

@Meraj99 my mouse has 13 buttons + a toggle switch to make them all rebind to something else

OrigamiRobot

The only thing I use either of the side buttons for is PTT

kalina

so... 26 buttons

ErraticFox

@Meraj99 NOPE. One thumb.

Jason Berkan

@kalina Have you considered that you've just recreated a keyboard?

kalina

@JasonBerkan 10 of those buttons (20 with toggle) sit under my thumb

it's not the same

ErraticFox

19:55

One thumb to rule them all, one thumb to bind them, and in the darkness bind them.

kalina

but one of those buttons is a 5 way hat switch

and I really cba with that

it's super awkward in some directions

Yuki

@ErraticFox It sounds awkward when you use "bind" twice, but I guess the original word doesn't quite fit.

Meraj99

When was Dragon's Prophet released? x. x I'm never aware of anything.

ErraticFox

@Yuki yeah, I realized it'd still sound good if I used "find" them.

Because... It would be... finding them.

Lazers

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Q: Minecraft Aqua Affinity Enchantment

What does the Aqua Affinity Enchantment do, and is there a certain pattern to make enchantments more powerful?

minecraft

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