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11:01 PM
@GodEmperorDune Because I didn't see it in the star list, and just got around to watching it
I WANTED TO SHARE THE JOY WITH THE BRIDGE OKAY
 
@Yuuki I have to say this, because this bothers me a lot: I don't think pedophilia is in any way OK, but I also think that there is an unreasonably sharp line between sex offender and perfectly OK at midnight on the 18th birthday. This especially applies when people express attraction, as opposed to someone expressing an intent to have sex with someone
 
@Wipqozn then remove yourself from the list of room owners, everyone gets a kick out of that :P
 
you used to read through the transcript @Wipqozn, modship changed you
 
Yeah once I got my diamond I stopped loving all of you
 
@murgatroid99 I get what you mean and to a certain degree, I concur. But there are more nuanced and better arguments to make than "well, technically pedophilia refers to pre-pubescent children so not 12-13 year olds".
 
11:03 PM
@Wipqozn if that's how it works then I don't want to be a mod
 
@murgatroid99 yes, but there is also a fairly large distinction between 18 years old and 13 years old
 
When you start arguing literal definitions in that particular context with those particular terms, you're essentially conceding the point.
 
@Wipqozn jesus
 
he wasn't saying that this 17 year old didn't want to wait a few months for it to be legal, he said that 13 year olds should be fine to give consent because reasons
 
@Yuuki But if you put everyone who expresses attraction to anyone under the age of 18 into the same conceptual bucket, it's a different fallacy
 
11:05 PM
holy shit you draw a cat and it makes you a freaking cat http://affinelayer.com/pixsrv/index.html https://t.co/gJJOQdz5vn
 
@murgatroid99 I personally think that argument is distinct from "well, technically you mean ephebephilia".
But that's just me.
@GodEmperorDune That's not what @murgatroid99 is saying either.
 
Hold on I swear there was an xkcd for this
 
@Wipqozn do they have crazy animals that you can use?
 
What do I win
 
One of those edges2cats
 
11:08 PM
To be clear: I'm not trying to respond to Milo's remarks, or the story about him. Just to the relevant statement that Yuuki made
 
@murgatroid99 that is where i got off course, so nevermind
 
And I'm responding to whatever dude on reddit went "technically, this thing"
 
@GodEmperorDune Like, I would even argue a bit if age of consent was to be taken down to 16, let alone 13. I'm going to go ahead and say that the R&J laws along with complete age of consent of 18 are good enough.
 
It just made me think of the conversations I've seen where someone says "I think it's OK to find 17 year olds attractive" "Now you're defending raping children" "It's not really the same thing" "Now you're just arguing semantics"
 
@Avery yeah the algorithms with R&J laws get a bit complex
@murgatroid99 see that seems like jumping to conclusions
 
11:11 PM
Age of consent in the UK and quite a bit of europe is 16, I think it's a bit weird.
 
@GodEmperorDune complexity is better than adding both sides to sex offenders list, IMO.
 
but milo straight up said that its ok for gay mentoring relationships to be sexual because consent was invented by the left and the mentoring makes it worthwhile
 
@GodEmperorDune I see it all the time, though. Any defense of any sort of sexual interaction or discussion with anyone under the age of <age of consent in my jurisdiction> is met with "now you're defending pedophiles".
 
@GodEmperorDune what the fuck
 
@murgatroid99 I'm referring specifically to the line "it's not technically pedophilia, it's <other-philia>".
 
11:12 PM
apparantly I own Dino Crisis. what.
 
@Avery im paraphrasing, but that's how i read it
 
@GodEmperorDune I'm starting to lean towards this school of thought:
> Those comments, along with the ones he made in the video, make me think that Milo wants desperately to have not been a victim. The people who told him that he was abused--what he calls the left--to his mind were insinuating that he was taken advantage enough, thus he was weak enough to be taken advantage of, thus he was weak. So he tries to make himself in his mind a prodigally powerful and manipulative 14-year-old who was able to seduce a pastor. And the pastor must have been good, for Milo to have not been a victim, and then the rest of it--believing the Catholic church secretly protect
I mean, he still said really f--ked-up things, Freudian excuse or not.
 
@Yuuki yes milo needed some therapy
 
(Incidentally, the Freudian excuse is a trope that I both like and really despise)
 
@Yuuki But the distinction is important, because it's really not the same thing, and treating them as the same is unreasonable. Calling it all "pedophilia" without acknowledging any nuance is the same as saying that the person who's attracted to a 17 year old is just as bad as the guy in the unmarked van offering children candy.
 
11:15 PM
@murgatroid99 i think we can agree that acting on the impulses is where the problem (and distinction) should lie
 
@GodEmperorDune do you have a link to his exact statements?
 
24 mins ago, by Wipqozn
@Yuuki The full quote can be found here.
 
@murgatroid99 I guess what I'm doing a really poor job of explaining is that when talking about this issue, you should follow up on the discussion. Leaving it at "it's not technically pedophilia" is both a poor argument and just poor rhetoric in general.
 
@GodEmperorDune I think it's also important to acknowledge that the age of consent in the jurisdiction that you currently live in is not some ultimate objective line between child and adult
 
I really hope that the new Han Solo movie doesn't have him "doing the good thing begrudgingly".
 
11:18 PM
@murgatroid99 for sure, i don't think anyone is vastly different in maturity on their age-of-consent birthday vs the day before
 
@GodEmperorDune ugh
 
but legally that's what we as a society agreed to
 
I hope the Han Solo movie is a proper heist movie and no Robin Hood-style "steal from the rich to help someone else out" or Ocean's Eleven-style vengeance thing.
 
Every single photo of Milo Yiannopoulos looks like a bad SNL parody of someone exaggeratedly pretending to be Milo… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/834177880720543744
 
@Yuuki Oh I'm sure it'll be terrible
I have a tendency for being cynical about these things though
 
11:23 PM
@Yuuki is it Disney?
 
@Memor-X Disney did Rogue One.
Just sayin'.
 
more importantly, will it have Chewie?
 
I wasn't a fan of rogue one, personally
 
@Yuuki so they're going to reanimate jabba?
 
11:24 PM
The chracters were fairly weak imo
 
@Yuuki wait woody harrelson is playing han solo?
 
@Ronan Haha, I love him
 
@Wipqozn That's less a "Rogue One was good" point and more a "did you see that opening scene? Disney is clearly not shying away from morally grey protagonists in Star Wars" point.
@GodEmperorDune He's playing Han's... "mentor" of sorts.
 
@Yuuki yeah i felt the death star project manager was given an impossible task
 
@RedRiderX Did you add me to Goodreads?
 
11:27 PM
@GnomeSlice You might want to read the news and then come back to us.
 
@Wipqozn And me!
 
@RedRiderX And so you did! You have an avatar now. So wait, does that mean you're first nameis actually Red? I always wondered where your username came from.
 
@Wipqozn i thought it was from the tube
 
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I would love it if Disney got Woody Harrelson to do an AMA to hype up the Han Solo movie and everybody just asked him questions about Rampart.
 
11:29 PM
@Yuuki i was thinking of making an AMA joke but this one is better
 
@GodEmperorDune wait if @RedRiderX actually owns that site, and that's where it got it's name from!?
 
I wonder if any other movie is going to top Power Rangers for "worst movie I absolutely have to see opening night" this year.
 
I forgot that didn't come out yet
Next month
I can't wait to not see it
 
My expectations are literally underground and I still want to see it.
 
@Yuuki y tho
 
11:34 PM
Maybe @Yuuki hates himself
That would explain it
 
@Yuuki I really want to see it, too.
Cheesy or campy, don't care.
 
@Frank The only way for this movie to not live up to my expectations is if it isn't cheesy or campy.
 
I'm calling it'll just be mediocre superhero film with lines that give the impression of being witty one liners.
 
I mean, you could give me a The Dark Knight-quality Power Rangers and I will hate it forever if it's not cheesy or campy as hell.
 
Oh, yay. Emergency vehicles just up the street.
 
11:38 PM
@Wipqozn I can neither confirm nor deny this.
 
@Ronan oh I know exactly how it'll go. It'll be just like tranformers. Terrible, but teenager boys will love it and think it's the enxt Citizen Kane.
 
@Wipqozn @Fluttershy Yeah I've decided to try and read some more books.
 
Reading is always fun. :D
I'm reading NOS4A2 at the moment.
 
It's weird thinking back through time and haphazardly remembering all the old books I've read.
 
@RedRiderX In fact I think I know your last name now as well since goodreads told me
 
11:39 PM
Ladies and gentlemen I regret to inform you there has been a tweet
 
@Wipqozn I don't know how to tell you this but...
 
@Fluttershy That name needs to burn.
 
I have lied on the internet
 
@RedRiderX My WORD
 
@Frank It's a license plate.
In the book.
 
11:40 PM
@Wipqozn That name is more of an evolution of this name then the other way around.
 
@Fluttershy As a license plate it makes sense. As a book title, it's a bad play on words.
 
@Fluttershy Street racing vampires that produce distribute movies on the side?
 
@Yuuki I think it's about a guy with a car that travels through rips in reality to kidnap children and drain them of their youth so that he may continue living? I'm still not entirely sure.
 
@Fluttershy is it weird i'm thinking about the Robot Space Vampire from Buzz Lightyear while everyone seems to be talking about street racing vampires
 
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11:51 PM
Huh. SPAZ 2 is ditching multiplayer.
 
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user15026
My cat has adopted the xbox plushie and has absconded with it somewhere in my room
 
@Ash to be fair, most of us would have done the same
 
user15026
Which, adopted it, or hid in my room?
 
@Ash adopted and absconded
maybe not necessarily in your room
 
user15026
11:58 PM
I am still trying to determine if the plush is legit merch or if someone just like...made it
 
user15026
it's the thrift store it could go either way
 
@Ash xbox plushie? as in a plushie of an actual xbox?
 
user15026
it has no tags
 
user15026
@Memor-X not the xbox itself but a controller
 
@Ash it looks too fancy to be homemade
 

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