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12:00 PM
@Wipqozn That doesn't really bother me and I love the developer
They have this low fi charm you can't replicate
 
@Arperum yes, but as a profile picture. He got unverified too, apparently.
 
Thief the new one isn't terrible but the actual game levels suck from what I played
The hub was way more fun
 
@arda Sounds like fun.
 
@Arperum is the pokemon in NA not the same as in SA?
 
If it is I don't think it's clear
 
12:12 PM
@arda but did it actually change within the game?
@twobugs I got 100% achievements in Styx, it is a great game
 
@Chippies no idea, I changed it on first second
 
yesterday, by Chippies
it has FOV sliders, but they don't do anything in single player
 
ah
I'll check later today then
 
I actually googled it, it's a thing
 
@Chippies facedesk
Whhhyyyyy
 
12:15 PM
I didn't just come here asap and say that, I actually checked online first :P
@KevinvanderVelden meh, something something to experience it the way developers intended maybe? idk
I mean, I can understand a locked fov for cinematics
but for actual gameplay it doesn't make sense
 
They intended for people with motion sickness to throw up?
 
but I guess the "cinematics" and gameplay is kinda seamless
 
Because, you know. Motion sickness is an actual thing that affects people
And what works on a console doesn't work on a screen that fills up twice as much of your vision
 
@KevinvanderVelden well, these people should play on a TV on the other side of the room then, DUH
low fov doesn't make me sick, but it does disorient me
it's like wearing glasses, but worse
and I wear glasses 8+ hours a day, so I would know
I'm going to install CM13 (cyanogen marshmallow) on my main (and only) phone. Lets hope it's not garbage...
 
Hmmm marshmellows
 
12:23 PM
@KevinvanderVelden apparently people in Newfoundland don't like marshmallows on their own
I, on the other hand, could eat a full bag of them by myself
 
D.​va Doge #Overwatch https://t.co/VqgkXGdjcA
 
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Q: Can't ride or feed horses in my survival world?

Jake WickhamLet me start off by saying that I don't know how to reproduce this problem, it affects all horses in my survival world. I generally keep my horses leashed to a fence post and then suddenly one day my skeleton horse was wandering around my village. I didn't untie the leash so I am confused as to h...

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Q: Horizon Chase - What is the last achievement? And how do I get it?

João Victor OliveiraI've finished every single race in Horizon Chase at first place while getting all the tokens, unlocked all three rewards at the end of the game, and got all but one achievement, which is a secret one. Does anyone know what is this achievement and how to get it? I tried searching for it on Googl...

 
@KevinvanderVelden That is not proven. (the assumption has been added to the answer of the other question since the new one was asked.
 
Ugh it's been so long since I seriously used VS so my linking is inadequate
Cc @badp
Also even these two cpp files require every damn library in the repo apparently
 
Uuuugh VS C++ project file configuration
<3 GENie
 
12:27 PM
All the libraries are in different directories
Because why not
 
12:43 PM
I feel like I ought to invest some of my own time into relearning this because this is embarrassing
 
@Arperum "South America is likely..."
how can you not think it doesn't answer it?
question 1: all regional pokemon in the world?
question 2: a regional pokemon of a subset of the world?
obviously any answer in q2 will belong in q1
 
See also: New attempt at duplicate rules. The old Q+A don't have the relevant info
So it's acceptable to ask again
 
It might now have the new info, but not certain.
 
@KevinvanderVelden your picture looks like a naked lady holding their breasts
 
At the time of asking it most certainly had not.
 
12:49 PM
@Aequitas ... no?
 
@Aequitas I... don't see that
 
lol
@Arperum so because the answer to the question is uncertain it makes it okay to have a duplicate question?
 
@Aequitas no
 
@KevinvanderVelden wheres this?
 
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Q: Duplicate Questions: A Trial

WipqoznWe asked whether you wanted to try something new, and the votes say yes. So, starting today, and running until January 2017, we're going to do things a little differently in regards to duplicate questions. The broad rule is: Do not close questions as duplicates if the target question does not...

 
12:53 PM
that literally means nothing
 
That is linked as a featured on meta question on the site.
 
> Do not close questions as duplicates if the target question does not help the new asker.
that's alll that it says
even the post says its gray
i dont see what's different
 
Does it help the asker? No. At the time of asking it said nothing about SA. As mentioned in the question. At this point the answer in the original has been updated to contain semi-speculation about SA.
This speculation does not help the new asker as it is speculation.
 
that is true
but if the only possible answer is speculation.. then it's off-topic anyway?
 
that makes no sense at all
so because it was asked before the original was updated to specifically include the words "south america" then it's fine to have that question
 
12:58 PM
We've been over this here: meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/11865/… - it's a new thing, we're trying it for a bit, we'll decide what to do after that
 
@Aequitas I started this question here before I knew the answer to the old question got updated. (I did not doublecheck)
WIth the old one updated (because of the new one) it's even more fuzzy.
 
@KevinvanderVelden this should probably be included in the featured post?
 
> We asked whether you wanted to try something new, and the votes say yes.

So, starting today, and running until January 2017, we're going to do things a little differently in regards to duplicate questions.
It literally is?
Note the worked "asked" in the featured one that links to the debate about it
 
@KevinvanderVelden ah didn't see that link
either way the explanation of the new rule should be included in the same post saying that there's a new rule
 
These libs have good names. Thinglib.lib
 
1:02 PM
So according to 2.a) it should be allowed, but since it's no longer outdated, what now?
 
2 mins ago, by Kevin van der Velden
It literally is?
The linked thing is the justification for the new rule and debate on it
 
@KevinvanderVelden since when do link only answers count? the important information should be included, not just a link to it. Since it's a featured thing, it should be standalone
 
@Aequitas it seems to me, if the old question has been updated to include everything we know about South America, then it now "helps" the asker as best as we can, and thus the new question is now legitimately a duplicate.
 
@Aequitas this is not the front site!
@Frank burnered
Also it's not an answer it's a question
And why we have the rule is irrelevant to what the rule is, except as an historical artifact (and a means of judging the rules effectiveness)
 
1:19 PM
Aaaah. "Branches" in SVN are the best idea ever.
Except they are not real and are a disaster to fix if you start in the wrong one.
 
It is a pale imitation of the proper thing
 
(It was not me who ran into the issue)
 
Even if the imitation was before the proper thing
 
imitation through means of "copy to other folder and call it a branch"
 
Blerghle
Subversion is the worst (no it's not, TFS is way worse (still better then nothing though) (I like parenthesis (parenthesis is a weird word, the dutch word is just hooks)))
 
1:22 PM
@KevinvanderVelden Brackets
 
I've worked with git exactly once. It's infinitely better than svn.
 
@fredley Those are []
@Arperum I got my previous work to switch to it, so good
 
@KevinvanderVelden Small hooks.
Or do Dutch say "haken" instead of "haakjes"?
 
@KevinvanderVelden Square brackets
{} Curly brackets
<> Angle brackets
 
Although tbf haken is also used.
 
1:23 PM
@Arperum haakjes
 
{} Also potentially curly braces
 
But yeah, haken is occasionally used
English just isn't as good at diminutives
 
So same as here. We found a thing that is the same!
 
For all your uneven parenthetical nightmare needs
 
Reading forum posts from people who have 72 hours on No Man's Sky and still think they deserve a refund is rage-inducing.
 
1:27 PM
@Sterno You need slap-over-http.
 
@Sterno cc @arda =p
 
Steam refunds was a mistake
 
@Unionhawk Just like your face.
 
@Sterno I think the thing is people started rumors that you could refund, and they weren't true
Normal refund policies apply
 
@Unionhawk disagree. It's just people trying to abuse it
 
1:28 PM
@Unionhawk Yeah. I'm reading all the stuff from people who think it should be true.
 
Was NMS that much of a let down? Did they ever promise multiplayer?
 
@fredley Yes
 
@fredley Yes and no
 
On the latter
 
It depends on what constitutes a promise
 
1:29 PM
@Sterno People did this for WoW 6 months into an expansion
 
The first I 'unno, I didn't play it
@Sterno being asked "does it have multiplayer" and answering "yes", to me, sounds like saying it's in it
 
Anyway for NMS it's clear that Sean guy shouldn't have talked as much as he did
 
@KevinvanderVelden Yeah, but is there a difference between if you say that in an interview somewhere a few months before the game comes out versus what it says on the store sale page?
 
But I think places like Reddit and Neogaf had really unrealistic hopes and there was 0 chance of it living up to that
 
@twobugs That said, with all the negative press, they should be saying something. But both Sony and the devs are clammed up tight, letting the negative attention be the story.
 
1:30 PM
I mean, don't get me wrong. They had terrible communication and were either really stupid or purposefully misleading around release time by not clarifying what all would be in the game
 
@Frank Yup, I think they have handled it poorly
 
But I don't know if interviews and such constitute "promises" in the sense of "this product promised me this and didn't deliver"
 
@Sterno yeah there is a difference, but marketing material is marketing material (and interviews are definitely marketing material)
And it's not just one clear "Yes" on multiplayer, it's in at least 2 interviews from what I've heard
 
Yeah, and then when he says there's not multiplayer right before launch, he doesn't actually come out and say it (and still hasn't). Instead he says "People should not play this looking for a multiplayer experience"
The "multiplayer features" ended up being "You can name planets and other people can see those names."
 
look mate I might have seen how bad the game was going to be based on Sean's talks and might have dropped 60usd no matter what and have played it for 168.5 hours, but I'm a cool kid and all my friends are saying that the game is bad and how they got a refund, so the game is bad, it never worked well for me, the 168.5 hours is me trying to start it up and it failing at splash screen (and me doing this for a few million times) due to me expecting it to run on a 7 year old cpu.
sean murray is a liar and I want my refund
 
1:33 PM
Either way, you don't get 72 hours into the game and then suddenly realize multiplayer isn't there
 
-1
Q: Mouse LMB does not work fir Battlefield Bad Company 2

Nikhil AtpadkarI installed the steam version. It starts up fine and I enter the first mission. I am to "use" the knife but when I press the mouse LMB, nothing happens and I die quickly. I can look around using the mouse but USE does not work. Why? plz reply me fast i want to play that game plz plz plz

 
@Sterno oh yeah 72 hours played is definite "not a refund" territory
 
Bridge Exclusive^TM Copy Pasta
 
Pls
 
I mean, I honestly wish assholes like this would just pirate the game instead.
 
1:35 PM
Yes
 
No, both hurts the developers, they should go and do something productive instead
 
IDK, go get a job
 
One hurts developers, the other doesn't give them money
Because doing a refund is not free, at all
Game devs preferred game-getting-to-play method (if applicable): Kickstarter, early access, pre-order, day 1, before the first discount, discount #n.... piracy
Note how buying and then refunding isn't on the list
 
1:37 PM
@KevinvanderVelden both hurts (less users, more server costs etc), but refunds hurt more.
 
@arda server costs for pirated versions are generally 0
Given that multiplayer doesn't work on pirated versions in 99.99999999% of the cases
(i.e. if the dev is competent)
 
%0.0000000001 your game studio goes bankrupt due to ec2 scaling costs overnight
 
What game are you talking about?
Actually curious
 
I remember reading one, sec
 
@arda In which case, adding auth checks to your freaking server sounds like something that should have happened in the first place.
 
1:41 PM
@arda Yeah that's about the right level of importance
 
@Frank yeah I really wonder what incompetence brought that to happen
If your clients are able to request heavy processing then have that heavy processing be limited to a existent bloody license
 
@KevinvanderVelden Probably some laziness on the dev's end; "Meh, auth checks take forever to code. Nobody's going to care for this."
 
@KevinvanderVelden macgasm.net/2012/12/04/… rather old, but this was the one I read
@Frank +1, but that is often skipped by mobile devs
 
@arda Then it's a problem of their own making, and deserve zero sympathy.
 
Uugh doesn't the appstore have features for that?
 
1:43 PM
> iOS Game
Ofc
 
Seriously, shut down the servers for a while, fix it
 
@Frank While I have to say that the devs were rather incompetent, it is not (only) their fault. People abused their game.
 
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Q: How can I get a mythic keystone?

Son of a SailorIn Legion, you can use a mythic keystone to increase the difficulty of mythic dungeons to get better loot. How can I get a keystone to enable this difficulty? I've heard the last boss of a mythic dungeon drops one but I haven't found any official sources that confirm this.

 
@arda They made the choice to shut down the game completely. No one forced them to do that. It's all on them.
 
Yup, you can temporarily shut things down. It's not hard
 
1:46 PM
@Frank they returned
 
@arda Then that article is incorrect, and your point moot.
 
I first saw and read that link here which also has follow-up
@Frank took them 3 months
 
~*~ Bridge Arguments ~*~
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@arda Three months they should have spent in the first place, prior to release, then.
If it took them that long to come up with a solution, chances are good the code was pretty inefficient in the first place.
 
well I'm going to disengage. We have different views about this topic which we all are pretty strict about and I don't want to cause drama nor annoyance over this.
Sorry.
 
1:53 PM
All in all a story of bad software engineering and not taking the basic steps (of user registration and purchase validation) to protect yourself. I'm glad to hear they recovered. But with a server-based game, the burden of authenticating users is squarely on the developer's shoulders. — bobobobo Apr 30 '13 at 23:13
Basically my viewpoint.
 
It should be going home time but for some reason it isn't
 
Why is it not going home time? Do you need to use more explosives first?
 
@KevinvanderVelden Explosives make for going home time? What do you do, blow up your workplace?
 
@Frank it generally works, or explosives somewhere near the workplce
 
2:06 PM
Great, now I am probably on some watch list :(
 
Congratulations \o/
 
@fredley Your mom's a bridge argument
 
I'm not sure I approve of my mother being a literary construct. I mean they raised her to be so much more than that.
I would classify her as more of a debate than an arguement.
 
@twobugs ...
 
As for No Mans Sky, it's just Desert Bus but in space.
 
2:09 PM
@MadMAxJr I was just talking about @fredley's mother.
@MadMAxJr lololololo0l oh man
You rock max
Have a Gold Star
 
It has a few added features though.
*Stop for gas
*Ask for directions
*Get some pictures of things you find by the road
And then you can take your pictures and force your friends to watch your vacation slides.
 
@MadMAxJr New name for No Man's Sky is Space Bus, confirmed
 
I mean my drive from Oklahoma City, OK to Boise, ID feels similar.
Long trip, stopping for gas, getting a little help at truckstop/starbase, creeps making an offer on your car while stopping for gas, and feeling awkward and alone in a desolate wasteland (using a rest area in Utah. It's a desert.)
Admittedly the roadtrip has 100% less gunplay and mining.
But the road trip had a best of Queen mix CD.
And then there was my 'DLC' of sorts, a side trip from Boise, ID, to Kelona, BC
 
Okay so if you send me an email and the email is your email signature but highlighted this time and your normal signature below that...
I don't know. I just don't know.
 
What I learned about road-tripping into Canada. HOLY COW, TREES.
 
@MadMAxJr probably, it would have helped if you went in expecting Endless Ocean in space instead that Skyrim in space.
 
You guys should all just play Obduction
Arizona in a rock dimension in a jungle in space
 
I'm not sure how to feel about the new Master of Orion.
It does some of it right but it feels pretty dumbed down from what I loved about MoO2
 
@MadMAxJr I've been hankering for a good 4X lately, and Stellaris felt far too shallow.
So I'm actually playing SOTS2.
 
The new MoO did get a few things right. The bits of narration in there are good and the diplomacy interactions with aliens are exactly what I wanted.
I miss turn based space combat though.
 
2:46 PM
Four-word horror stories: Team building away day Rail Replacement Bus Service Tell us about yourself We're out of milk Someone's at the door
*shudders*
 
Bus Replacement Rail Service?
 
@KevinvanderVelden Rail Replacement Bus Service
When the train stops, you get off the train, and continue by bus
 
Woohoo!
 
Literally the worst thing ever
 
@SaintWacko Job get?
 
2:48 PM
Picked up my old oscilloscope from my parents' house
 
@Frank That too!
 
@SaintWacko Grats!
 
They called me yesterday morning with an offer :D
@Frank Thanks!
 
@SaintWacko \o/ grats
 
2:49 PM
@SaintWacko Grats dude!
 
@KevinvanderVelden amaze, truly the train of dreams
@SaintWacko groots!
 
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Q: Ys Ark of Napishtim - how many levels do the mini-games have?

warsongIn the Sealed Cavern there are a set of mini-games, how many levels do these have each?

 
SETI found an "interesting" signal seemingly from a system less than 100ly away
 
@fredley I would absolutely love to have this job.
 
As with all things like this, nothing is confirmed and it should repeat if it is significant
 
2:54 PM
@Fluttershy Preferably after a traumatic breakup, to fully realise the Firewatch fantasy
@Fluttershy It appeals to me strongly, but I know I'd get bored.
 
@twobugs if it was manmade it'd take about a kardavesh 2 civilization (unless it was targeted directly to us, then a kardavesh 1 would work fine)
 
@KevinvanderVelden Yup. Something far beyond our level either way
Given that it's about 100 ly away, they would have needed to have picked Earth pre radio, which seems unlikely
Regardless, we're getting a little ahead of ourselves :)
 
Quite
I highly doubt it's artificial
Or well no. It could be artificial, but then it's because it's picking up something from this planet
 
@fredley I think I'd find the isolation calming.
 
@Fluttershy Oh yeah, would be amazing
I would probably be ok if I had a good enough supply of paint.
 
3:01 PM
I'd take my acoustic guitar, but probably spend most of the time just staring out at the scenery. :P
 
@Fluttershy I guess avoiding going insane inside your own head after a few weeks/months is the main thing
Maybe you'll have a radio to communicate with your mysterious firwatching neighbour
 
Also a phoneline so you don't literally have to live firewatch the game the life
 
@KevinvanderVelden But this is what I want
Obduction reminds me of Firewatch in a way. You're similarly alone, and can only communicate in distant ways. Obviously a very different game
 
Also, I now have one of these sitting next to my desk
 
@SaintWacko ooooooooh
 
3:05 PM
@SaintWacko does it make the noise @fredley just made?
I feel like it should
 
I've had it for years, never used it, but just realized I think I can use the Type CA plugin as a power supply for testing electronics
@KevinvanderVelden It kinda hums
 
Acceptable
 
@SaintWacko uhmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
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Q: What is the easiest way to find a Crashed Ship?

vulpineblazeytI just landed on a planet and would like to invest some time on it to upgrade my ship. I would like to know what is the easiest way to find a Crashed Ship here (or many crashed ships) so that I can trade up over and over. Bonus points if I can somehow be guaranteed a 48-slot combat ship lol ...

 
It's old
 
3:06 PM
@SaintWacko I just use a stripped computer power supply
@SaintWacko no he's uhm-ing, which is close to humming but not the same
 
@SaintWacko sternold?
Can it play Doom?
 
@fredley Oh, no, nothing's that old!
 
I wonder if I can find someplace to calibrate it
It hasn't been calibrated since 1984
 
@fredley I didn't realize you'd played Firewatch. I'm guessing you enjoyed it?
 
3:09 PM
@fredley Impressive
 
@Fluttershy Yeah, loved it
Interesting concept, well executed, thoughtful ending
 
@fredley Yus! It is probably one of my favorite games to release this year.
A lot of people felt it was overhyped, but I thought it was fantastic.
 
Been waiting for Firewatch to appear in a steam sale before snagging it.
Managed to avoid spoilers, heard it's an interesting trip.
 
@Fluttershy Me too
@MadMAxJr Highly recommend
 
3:16 PM
I've not played it either, I've also managed to not get spoilered :D
 
Ooooh. Undertale is getting a soundtrack on vinyl.
Shiny shiny colored vinyl.
 
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Q: 4 way Black ops Offline Multiplayer-PS2 Compatability

GipsyDAs the question suggests. Instead of buying two more PS3 Controllers, I'm looking at recycling my old PS2 controllers. Now the problem I face is, if I get an adapter for the PS2 Controller to work on the PS3, will it work on offline 4 way splitscreen mulitplayer? Or does it only work for "Playe...

 
@MadMAxJr @KevinvanderVelden Please play it before you get spoilered. It's so, so good. And fairly short, in all honesty.
 
I had to really shelter a friend who kept putting off Undertale until they finally caved to play it, like 5 months after launch.
 
@MadMAxJr what a great game, so strange it doesn't have any fandom at all
@Fluttershy You can get it done in an evening or two
 
3:31 PM
@fredley not sure if being sarcastic or not :/
 
I had to keep telling her to not go near fan art.
 
@djsmiley2k I've got to say, burial at sea was great
(both but especially 2)
 
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Q: World.setBlockState setting block that is unstable (destroyed on right click) forge 1.8

Mason JonesI've been trying to make a block that builds a house (or something else) when it is activated. But when it gets activated, the blocks that it builds are always unstable. I can destroy (revert to air or whatever was there before hand) an entire structure by "activating" the blocks; and when I le...

 
@Unionhawk all of Bioshock was really good, one of my favorite IP's
really enjoyable
 
Would you kindly vote to close....
 
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3:42 PM
Downside to fresh tattoo - a large amount of cat fuzz keeps getting stuck to it
 
@Ash :/
 
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Q: Is it possible to catch or hatch Pokémon far above your trainer level?

Tester101It was my understanding that you could only ever have a Pokémon who is a level and a half above your current trainer level. Yet the other day I saw a Pokémon in a gym, that seemed to exceed the trainers level by more than that. According to the tools provided by The SilphRoad, a Gyarados at leve...

 
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@GodEmperorDune also I think I am going to have to get the yellow touched up.
 
user15026
That doesn't really surprise me, lighter colours are the hardest to get to go right
 
@Ash the bright colors fade fast from what i've seen
 
3:48 PM
@Ash :(
@Ash Is it just a case of more ink?
 
sometimes what helps is to get a darker color sprinkled throughout to make it pop more
 
user15026
@fredley yeah, it just needs more colour. It is a little patchy. But with how much I bled and stuff I am not shocked by that. I am not mad at the artist or anything.
 
I could never get a tattoo
 
It happens with tattoos, it's not a perfect science
 
I'm not a fan of tubes of any diameter going into my body really
 
3:49 PM
@fredley not even "kfVsfOSbJY0"?
 
cc: @Arperum
 
@fredley Does it help if it only goes very shallowly and very quickly?
 
@KevinvanderVelden No
 
i mean it is painful and all, but then your skin looks so cool afterward
 
It's not the depth or the speed, it's the fact it's happening at all
 
user15026
3:50 PM
@KevinvanderVelden exactly. Which is why i am just chill over it. When I have a moment next week I will drop by the shop and see what they say and what we can do
 
all the cool kids are doing it @fredley; you want to be cool, don't you?
 
@GodEmperorDune brb, getting a smoking habit
 
Heck, unless they're busy (or it's big) they'll probably just do it on the spot
@fredley it doesn't look at all like a syringe though
 
user15026
@fredley yeah, it's not everyone's jam, for sure. I don't mind it, it doesn't hurt as much as I anticipate but that's how it always is for me
 
retouches are the worst, your skin is like "yay i'm done, time to heal" and the needle is like "nope"
 
3:52 PM
@Ash I am super sensitive to pain, and really not ok with it.
 
user15026
@KevinvanderVelden yeah, I am kinda hoping I can get them to do that but even if I have to go back I'm just like okay that's fine
 
@fredley just compare it to that which @Arperum shall not think about and it won't even be a thing
 
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@GodEmperorDune yeah, so i know if they need to retouch the yellow it will hurt more but I am like this is forever and I want it just so
 
@Ash you mean they didn't schedule a follow up visit as part of it?
 
@KevinvanderVelden That was very deep. And very slow.
 
user15026
3:53 PM
@fredley I'm not too bad with pain. I am super good at psyching myself up to think something will be bad.
 
user15026
@GodEmperorDune they did, but that's a month away
 
Oh yeah, it's like 2 days old isn't it?
 
@Ash The only pain that is acceptable is muscle pain from running.
 
user15026
So I figure if I just go in and then they are like okay yeah wait the month, I will.
 
Probably best to wait then actually, unless it's close by and you just want to be sure
 
3:54 PM
@Ash with my wife's tattoo, it was leaking out ink for a while, so waiting longer for it to stabilize made sense
 
user15026
@KevinvanderVelden I mostly just wanna have a plan :)
 
Plans are good =p
 
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Q: My Minecraft LAN button won't let me turn it on? [ Minecraft PE 0.15.6 ]

hebejebesMe and my friend have been trying to connect to each other on minecraft pocket edition, but it has not been working; I know what I need to do to fix it - turn the LAN switch on, however it is nit letting me?? Is there something wrong with my phone or the app?

 

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