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6:01 PM
@Dragonrage YOu know, on round 2 of LiJiang tower as Bastion
there's a little data room at the top
where you can sneak off as bastion
and rain turret fire down on unsuspecting defenders
especially before the point is about to be capped
love that spot, especially with a damage boosting mercy
I played Dirty Bomb before playing Overwatch, and Soldier76 was the only one that felt most natural, almost cod-esque
 
@Dragonrage Like Excalibur wearing a Spiral Knights helm.
 
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spring, amazing aim when bursted at long ranges, incredible sustain damage
 
i was playing on nepal with bastion. even with fall off damage, you can still kill people almost as soon as they walk through the door
 
@O-O +1, especially the run thing.
 
@GodEmperorDune In Demon's Souls when you killed a boss it had this really cool message
And ever since then it's gotten lazier and lazier
 
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6:07 PM
That and pretty much all I play now is S76 or Reaper
OF course, MCree is the best no matter what situation he's in
 
Every character is fun, I don't know why people are limiting themselves so much
 
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even for meta overwatch mcree is consistently high and mei is low, something I had no idea bout
that's apparently why Mei was buffed so heavily
because she has no gameplay value in competitive settings
 
I think Mei is fine right now. No idea about competitive play
 
mcree seems to be most effective in close range. i only die to him when he gets close, otherwise i can easily kill him
 
@Dragonrage Yes, that's kind of the point of him
He is a close-medium range character
 
6:09 PM
I play and be OP in Tracer just so I can see the victory poses more.
 
Mei is only close
 
or, you know, you could just watch it on youtube.
 
@badp there are 4
I see it and so does others
 
also i got lucky when i was playing randoms and reflected a flashbang as genji. that was fun
 
McCree's flashbang is brutally effective
 
6:10 PM
@ardaozkal and
 
Doing that into is alt-fire is basically a guaranteed kill
 
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yep
and if you miss he just rolls and kills you again
 
And then you can roll and alt fire again!
 
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I am honestly super impressed with the team setups they have for competitive overwatch
 
6:11 PM
others play too
and we spam enemies with voice lines.
 
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for example, "protect the president" is a 2x reinhardt, 2x mercy, 1 bastion, 1 filler
 
@ardaozkal yes, I am familiar with Mr. Pootis Spencer
 
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reinhardts block both sides of bastion
 
The only character who seems to need more work really is Bastion
 
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mercy heals and supports
bastion is a niche but sometimes used pick in defense
as you can basically lockdown areas as long as the team builds around him
 
6:12 PM
He just seems to be too niche
 
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@twobugs True, but when he shines it counts a lot
especially on route66
that is one of the most commonly played defenses
because there is literally no way to kill at all
and you can just snipe em even as they come from spawn
 
let me look up this other funny screenshot
get it? so funny.
 
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I laughed when I heard TF2 players saying that OW is too casual
according to them, having autoaim weapons are indications of such
 
@O-O wat
 
@O-O wait wat
 
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6:14 PM
and I heard these statements from Pyro mains
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA‌​HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
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So there are 4 abilities in OW that autoaim
 
That's a level of wrongitude I would expect from @badp
 
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Winston's Tesla Gun
 
@O-O oh okay. I thought you were literally talking about aim assist
 
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6:14 PM
S76's Ult, Tactical Visor
Which locks onto players
but only for like 6 seconds
And Mcree's High Noon ult
but that takes 3 seconds and you need los and you need to charge it
and the final one I forget but the weapon auto hits targets
anyways, that's why OW as whole is for filthy casuals apparently
I was just shamed by a Pyro main for that
 
No living human could utter such ridiculous statements
 
after all, Blizzard is perfect and does all the things
 
@O-O you said there were 4, then gave two examples and said you forgot the final one
 
anyway you could've shut him up saying "at least theres no f2p lol" because he probably likes to complain about that too
 
@badp And here we gooooooo
 
6:17 PM
@twobugs this has never stopped going
 
but maybe reaper ult could be considered one
 
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@Dragonrage 3
yeah, you're right
it's Winston's Tesla Gun, S76's Tactical Visor, Mcree's High Noon, Reaper's Death Blossom
 
@Dragonrage By that logic, Soldier's rockets would be auto-hit too.
 
I think you will find my judgement to be fair and consistent, once you can clear the login queue, there are 200 people in front of you
 
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NOOOO i got it wrong
 
6:19 PM
what about symmetra regular fire
 
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It's Symmetra primary fire, Winston tesla gun, S76 visor, and Mcree High Noon
 
@O-O inb4'd
 
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man
I was typing that up just as you posted that, great minds think alike, no?
 
Winston's primary is a cone and Symmetra's primary requires initial targeting.
 
@badp Is this supposed to be an Overwatch joke?
Because I've never encountered that
 
6:20 PM
And loses lock-on if they're out of LoS for more than 2s, IIRC.
 
@twobugs @Powerlord tweeted that. Apparently the login queue is a thing that exists and has been implemented because logging into anything Blizzard is such an hard core experience
PSA: Overwatch has a login queue. You might start seeing it more often now that the Open Beta is really opening. https://t.co/OJVhwCKatV
 
what is the highest amount of eliminations in a game you have gotten
 
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20ish with reaper
 
@badp Uh... okay...
 
life tip: if nothing goes right go to sleep
 
6:22 PM
Nothing else has ever had a login queue, apparently
 
i got 29 with s76 and 33? with bastion
 
I have to go through my login queue to use Google, Twitter, Steam, etc. every day
commuting to the internet is hard
 
It's funny that you mentioned Steam, a service that regularly goes down unannounced during the day and has downtimes during sales
 
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taking the steam bus
 
on some of the smaller forums the login queues can be up to 4 hours
 
6:24 PM
I get that you dislike b.net, but you're being ridiculous
 
@twobugs yes, the website has downtime, the actual service stays up
 
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@twobugs especially so when a game becomes free
 
LoL has a login queue, not that @badp gives a shit about that.
 
@badp Steam? Not always. Steam friends? Absolutely not
 
I am actually a little interested in why some games need login queues.
 
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6:24 PM
But hopefully we wont have server issues at launch unlike Diablo 3, Blizzard learned from that r-right guys?
 
@O-O Uh, yeah. They did.
 
@O-O Overwatch servers totally didn't crap out when on May 3rd when everyone tried to log in.
Oh wait.
 
yes, so Steam is definitely not perfect, but somehow they launch games on their platforms several times a day and nothing goes offline for hours
 
At least they were up like 15 minutes late instead of like 12 hours late.
 
you know what's ridicolous? the Diablo 3 launch.
Simcity did manage to be worse
 
6:25 PM
 
You know what's ridiculous? Steam screwing up and letting people access each other's accounts
 
@StrixVaria they do, but you rarely hit a long one. usually only after a major patch
 
But I guess Blizzard is somehow more evil
 
otherwise its almost instantaneous
 
This is like a playground argument. You're upset over b.net
 
6:26 PM
@Dragonrage I had a 30-minute LoL queue once.
 
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You know what's ridiculous? @badp spelling ridiculous as ridicolous. Ridicolous!
 
@twobugs which never truly happened, you had R/O access
 
@badp By that logic neither did the Diablo 3 thing since numerous people were able to play
 
@StrixVaria ive had longer before they upgraded all their servers. but since the move and upgrade to new ones, while i have a higher ping, they havent had any servers go down
 
yup, that evening in here had a lot of people who were able to play
 
6:27 PM
and i havent hit a login queue either
 
but hey I wasn't one of them.
 
@badp That's a very representative sample size
It's almost as if you're doing something in bad faith again
 
Anyway, if you don't realize what a clusterfuck Battle.net, that's okay with me
 
It's a clusterfuck, but all your reasons are patently stupid.
 
@badp : battle.net :: me 3 years ago : EA
 
6:28 PM
so let's recap your argument, I am being wrong because Steam is also bad and I don't complain as much about it
 
I'm not even defending battle.net, I'm just asking you apply consistent logic
 
that is not an argument
 
That is absolutely an argument. I pointed out that what you're doing is singling out a service despite the fact you use an arguably worse service
 
@twob Sorry, that's actually not really a great argument.
 
UGh, whatever. I'll disengage. Have the last word if you want. This is stupid
 
6:30 PM
yes, I guess it's an argument because it can be falsified: in fact, the part that it can be falsified is false
 
@StrixVaria I'm not trying to defend battle.net
 
Steam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Battle.net
 
I'm pointing out the inherent hypocrisy
 
@twobugs Then I think you and @badp are having different arguments at the same time.
 
and Steam is a hellhole of PHP-glued-together bullshit
 
6:30 PM
 
where one dude was able to launch their own game on their own after about 5 minutes of poking around
 
@StrixVaria No, I'm just really tired of his "I forgot my password and destroyed my authenticator, refused to answer my security question, etc., clearly it's battle.net's fault"
 
@ardaozkal You realize this pose has been public knowledge for weeks?
 
I haven't brought it up, and yes, that is still battle.net being fucking ridicolous
 
It's 100% user error
 
6:32 PM
@twobugs Oh, I totally agree with you that @badp's grudge against battle.net is pretty empty, but what are you going to do? He had a bad experience, whoever's fault it was, so I just don't engage. He can hate whatever he wants for whatever reason he wants.
 
Oh god
 
I personally have actually had a pretty great experience with the new Battle.net desktop app thingy.
 
DISENGAGE, DISENGAGEEEE!
I personally game on consoles D:
 
let me see if I can find that gif
 
/me ducks
 
6:33 PM
@StrixVaria It just gets extremely annoying when out of the fucking blue I get shouted down for using Battle.net
Talking about Overwatch??? YOU FOOL! BATTLE.NET SO BAD!!!!!
 
We should call a truce.
 
for starters, this is not about you
when @Dragonrage mentioned the fact that somehow Blizzard thought it'd be acceptable to ship a FPS in 2016 that by default is locked in at 30 frames per second, I totally lashed out then, too.
 
I'm just going to completely disengage
 
when @O-O corrected himself saying that the game doesn't have autoaim I retracted
 
@badp he is a security expert.
@StrixVaria yes
 
6:35 PM
@ardaozkal right, there was a little bit of nuance on his end, but all he did was bring up the browser inspector
no validation whatsoever on the user-suppied user ID field?
no part of this should ever have happened
 
so apparently EU LCS is failing pretty hard
 
Strix: I have all of them, that is the actual point.
 
and Korea is underperforming
turkey might get a number 1 seed into the world finals over Europe
and NA if CLG doesnt step it up
 
I haven't seen any of the games, but CLG is 2-2 right?
And they beat Flash Wolves, who beat SKT?
 
@StrixVaria RNG and FW
 
6:38 PM
It's always inspiring when documentation has numerous typos and uses really kitschy images
 
CLG has been my team since competitive LoL was a thing, so just seeing them at the world stage is pretty cool.
 
my highlights
 
> This video is private
 
6:39 PM
y can i not preview?
 
waait they are private
 
lol
 
Wait. Who's saying Overwatch is 30 frames per second?
 
@StrixVaria TSM has sort of been mine lol
 
ok i seem to have bugged broforce :(
 
6:39 PM
public now
 
@Dragonrage Those NALCS finals though.
 
@Fluttershy in the settings, the default limit is 30 fps, but you can change it
 
Whoever won, that was an entertaining series.
 
@Fluttershy Apparently it a default setting? Which is news to me because mine autodetected 60fps...
 
@StrixVaria yea, basically it came down to the fact that CLG learned more in the semis than TSM did and had a slight edge
but they were very close
 
6:41 PM
@twobugs mine did too. :o
 
I should actually look through the Overwatch settings.
 
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Q: Storing books in the Arcaneum library

diffeomorphismIf I store books that I no longer need in the Arcaneum bookshelves (the ones that are unlocked), will those books still be there if I look for them later, or can they become lost?

 
@Fluttershy mine runs at 60 fps fine, but the default setting was 30 for me
 
I spent enough time in the settings to set it to borderless window and set mouse4 to melee and that's it.
 
Also, I've found that I enjoy watching HotS tournaments more than LoL.
 
6:41 PM
I think I'm the opposite of TotalBiscuit in how much I care about options screens.
 
I only turned on the kill feed
 
@StrixVaria I didn't realize until yesterday, but you can actually configure keys for individual heroes.
 
@Fluttershy Yeah, that's pretty neat.
 
I looked over everything else but the default settings were acceptable
 
@Fluttershy this last season was bad imo because of tank meta
 
6:42 PM
@Fluttershy I didn't know that, great feature
 
I think I might wind up doing that for some people.
 
tank meta makes for boring games
 
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Esports is just really boring in general, IMO
 
@Dragonrage Wait, you mean Lucian top is a bad idea?
 
6:43 PM
Better than real sports at least
 
CC @Huni
 
this new split should be better as it is going to be more objective oriented
@StrixVaria having 3 adcs is bad.
 
I'll rage about esports when they start costing taxpayers millions and millions of dollars
 
especially when you cant shut down a makoai
 
So hopefully not for a while
 
6:44 PM
@Dragonrage Also best of 3.
This next split should be really great.
 
yea i really like all the changes
except the one they did to fiddle
fiddle needs a buff
 
What did they do to Fiddle?
 
I will point out since I'm so unfair and hypocritical that there was a gif I wanted to repost about Blizzard's account lockdown process circling back into the log in page, but I couldn't find it because chat search got super terrible a couple of years ago
I tried to replicate and, one email verification later, Battle.net allowed me to log in
so there you have it: Battle.net got slightly less terrible
congratulations Blizzard on sucking a little less ~
 
@StrixVaria they got rid of his mr reduction passive and gave hime movespeed buff when standing still
 
@Dragonrage wat
"movespeed buff when standing still"
 
6:48 PM
if he stands still he gets a slight movespeed buff that decays over time after you start moving
 
Oh, weird.
 
apparently its supposed to help him reposition after ulting or draining, but you dont run around after ulting most times
 
Well you run to keep the ult centered on the other team.
 
you ult into a bunch of people and zhonyas so you dont die
 
True.
I'm pretty disappointed Fiddle wasn't reworked more significantly along with all the other mages.
He's kind of...not great.
 
6:49 PM
yea, he is really cool idea, but just needs some help
gallio too
 
Clearly the solution is to abandon LoL completely and play HotS with me instead
 
You had me at "abandon LoL"
 
like his whole kit is build mr to be anti mage, then his ulti is all auto attack me and do physical damage pls
 
But lost me at "play HotS" :P
 
They did just nerf Tracer though.
 
6:51 PM
@Fluttershy for me HotS is just not fun.
 
@Fluttershy NO
WHEN
MY PRECIOUS
 
not entirely sure why, but it just doesnt appeal to me
 
FRIGGIN BLIZZ
 
@ardaozkal In HotS. Not in Overwatch
 
I just don't like MOBAs.
 
6:51 PM
@Fluttershy oh
idgaf then
 
I like the gameplay of LoL more than HotS, moment to moment, but I like not having to worry about items in HotS so much.
 
I haven't really played any heroes I liked in HotS and so much of the gameplay in MOBAs just feels very boring to me
It's like driving, I guess. It's not engaging but if you lose focus it's very bad
 
MOBAs have a lot of busywork gameplay.
 
It's both good and bad how much can hinge on a single teamfight
I hate playing solo and some of my friends are really frustrating to play MOBAs with so I don't even see a point
 
6:54 PM
@StrixVaria i like items because i like having the extra element to adapt in game. sure HotS has some adaptability with different abilities, but it just seems kind of flat and one dimensional to me
 
@Dragonrage I don't care for the strategy of LoL as much as the tactics.
 
I don't think items really add that much, the vast majority of the time I see people do the same builds or modify slightly depending on the situation
 
It's fun to watch high level teams play very strategically.
 
Which is what you can do in HotS anyway
 
I just don't get any enjoyment out of that kind of analysis or decision making.
 
6:55 PM
ryuu ga waga teki wo kurau
 
@twobugs some items can literally change the game. i have won a game just because I bought the right item to deal with their fed carry slightly better
i like the complexity of it. but thats just me
i dont have to force you to like it
 
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. I'm not disputing that items are helpful, I'm disputing the choices themselves
I see very little build variety whenever I look at MOBAs
I'd compare it to Diablo 2 where sure there was "complexity" in allocating stat points but it amounted to almost the same decisions in the vast majority of cases
 
there are some core items, but a lot of items are highly situational
and the order of item builds is also very important
 
I'm not trying to say you're wrong, I'm trying to explain my opinion
I don't view items in MOBAs as complexity, I view them as busywork
 
fair enough.
then you would probably enjoy HotS more than LoL
 
7:01 PM
I just can't get myself to play mobas
 
I have played HotS. I just talked about it. I like some parts of it but I fundamentally don't enjoy the genre very much.
 
they are sooo hard
maybe I'm just not good with strategy games.
 
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Q: Which games are featured in this logo ensemble?

muru I can identify: Assassin's Creed NASCAR ? ? StarCraft Heroes of Newerth Guild Wars Plants vs Zombies Hitman Half Life The K and U elude me.

 
Okay, so since it's friday in all timezones of UTC+3 and higher: I just read reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/4hzkvi/… to the tune of the Rebecca black song and I can't stop laughing
 
well now @agent86 and @Evilardaozkal both answer half the question
 
7:12 PM
@Dragonrage COMMUNITY WIKI
damn keyboard
 
I'm going to steal both answers and post a new one with both parts :)
 
@Dragonrage go ahead. MAKE IT COMMUNISM WIKI
 
@Evilardaozkal @agent86 may have beaten me to it
without the communism though
 
do what?
oh. I guess someone beat me to figuring out the other one :/
apologies
 
@agent86 it's ok. i made a wiki for it
 
7:19 PM
that one is a weird image
the K I knew almost immediately, but that U is very generic...
 
...Why did you make a community wiki?
Whatever. These questions are awful and I hate them
 
@twobugs because i stole elements from two people
and to protest
 
It's not protesting. It's misusing it itentionally
And you posted it seemingly after it had already been answered completely
 
i posted it about the same time @agent86 edited his. i didnt see his edit till after i posted it
 
Well the timestamps show you as having made it several minutes after @agent86
 
7:22 PM
oh this is actually fun
 
lulz
did you make a T out of an E?
 
@agent86 didnt you edit youre answer? it doesnt show as being edited
 
Tavern on the Meta is FULL OF STARS
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I can't even
 
user15026
I left because it was too much to follow
 
7:26 PM
 
is there some sort of argument going on?
 
Anyway I don't think making a CW as a "protest" is a good idea at all.
 
pedantry seems to bring out the stars in everyone
 
user15026
@agent86 They're trying to do some sort of Town Hall Chat
 
ahhh
 
7:27 PM
@agent86 So yes
 
@AshleyNunn They should have called in the expert coughs
 
@fredley indeed.
 
user15026
@TimStone Are you said expert?
 
paragon FTP weekend starts now
 
lol @ image link vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/unturned-bunker/images/9/92/… "Unturned-game-pc-hack-exp-aimbot-esp.jpg"
 
7:30 PM
@Evilardaozkal yeah, I found it on a lot of shady sites. some ukranian servers too, for whatever reason. makes you wonder how an image like that circulates through the 'net
 
@AshleyNunn I've been known to transcript a town hall or 20
 
internet is fun.
 
user15026
@TimStone So you're pretty much a magician then
 
Looks like Hotline Miami 2 is on sale this week? Not sure if I should pick it up. I heard it was worse than 1
I liked 1 a lot, though
 
if (same series && you liked the first && game on sale){ instabuy(); }
 
7:36 PM
have you played "not a hero?"
similar in many ways to hotline miami, by the olliolli team
 
oh, check that tooi.
 
just finished that recently, was quite good
 
the reviews were mixed but I heard that the game is decent
 
I managed to 100% it, but the last level was a paaaaain in the buuuuuutt
 
someone needs to do a 2d game like superhot
that, I'll play
 
7:37 PM
long boss fight with scripted bits + a long, tricky level with infinite enemies
 
@AshleyNunn I do wish I had a top hat. RIP in peace OrigamiRobot :(
 
@agent86 No, never heard of it
 
@twobugs it was in the recent humble devolver bundle. chances are good you could trade something for it on /r/indiegameswap or similar
I traded trine 2 complete for tropico 5 a week or two ago, that was epic win
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[heavy breathing]
tomorrow, it looks like.
 
Trine 2 was where I started to lose interest in that series
I felt like 2 had a lot more combat
And story
It was still a very pretty game but I just liked the platforming
 
I played some trine 3 with the wife on the stream, she liked it
 
7:46 PM
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Q: One piece of unique armor still applies bonus?

Jesus.MiltioIf I'm wearing a full set of armor (like Dwarven) except for the helmet, which is a unique one (for exapmle the Visage of Mzund), will I still get the 25% bonus for wearing a full set of armor? I know I need a perk to get that bonus, I just want to know if I can have the bonus like that.

 
3 looks like it has even more combat, is that accurate?
 
but I think i got it in a bundle or something, I had less interest in that series as you did by the end of the second
dunno, haven't played enough of it to really know
 
Ah. I appreciate the eye candy, but I really just want to jump and do basic silly puzzles
 
if you haven't grabbed the humble eye candy bundle, human resource machine is really quite good
probably the most fun programming sim I've played, and I've played a lot
 
I didn't even know there was a trine 3
 
7:57 PM
Now you know!
 
there was some controversy at launch... I think they ran out of money and just released what they had as 1.0
 
I loved the first one
 
They had to independently publish for some money reason I guess? I didn't really understand
 

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