The Bridge

Arperum

1:00 PM

that seems to be the case. And that null column looks like some old try thing that never got removed.

And foreign keys are overrated anyway.

GodEmperorDune

Yeah foreign keys are always coming around here, stealing all the native keys' jobs

two bugs

@GodEmperorDune We should build a wall between here and foreignland.

Perhaps a giant burning tire fire?

Chippies

Zoo Panda fakes pregnancy to get more treats

two bugs

@Chippies I can't decide if I love or hate Pandas

That's pretty amazing, though.

Chippies

@twobugs why not something between those two?

Arperum

1:15 PM

Kreator - Death To The World

►

Kreator is still awesome.

Chippies

I think pandas are cool, but I don't really care much about them

two bugs

I can only experience emotions in binary. Design oversight by my parents.

Arperum

@twobugs File a bugreport and request a free software upgrade.

two bugs

@Arperum I tried and they told me this version isn't supported anymore but assured me it was fixed in the next edition.

Arperum

@twobugs You should have bought extended support guarantees.

two bugs

1:21 PM

Damnit JSFiddle stop trying to auto-format my code

Private Pansy

There's a chatbot implemented in Python that uses statement and responses as training data

I wonder what would happen if I feed it MLP's transcript...

two bugs

@PrivatePansy Either you or @fredley are going to bring about the technological singularity

There are some lines Man isn't meant to cross.

Powerlord

So, I heard a rumor that we're now allowed to liveblog TF2 games here.

GodEmperorDune

@PrivatePansy probably less dangerous than feeding it the bridge transcript

fredley

@GodEmperorDune whynotboth.jpg

Private Pansy

1:28 PM

"If your copy of Microsoft Office went to school, it would be studying in secondary school now"

An actual conversation I had with my dad

Apparently he still routinely rejects papers submitted to him in docx format

@GodEmperorDune The Bridge's transcript is actually much cleaner, since replies are marked up nicely

GodEmperorDune

@PrivatePansy except for mobile

Private Pansy

Although I think once trained all it would do is post links to Friday

StrixVaria

fredley

@StrixVaria ow

The scary thing is, the ragdoll physics is probably pretty accurate

Private Pansy

> Note: Training is not required but it is recommended.

Huh. How do you talk to an untrained bot

Maybe it already has an linguistic model installed

Unionhawk

1:34 PM

Maybe it just responds with nonsense

Which would be the effective result of training it with The Bridge, incidentally

Private Pansy

So it talks like @Unionhawk. Got it.

Martin Sojka

Maybe it just looks up stuff on Wikipedia, then responds with nonsense.

fredley

*Considers making a chatbot flackoverstow fork*

Powerlord

@PrivatePansy I actually forced my mom to update to a version of Office produced during the current decade when I updated her computer to Windows 7.

I think it was Office 2010.

fredley

I updated to Windows 10 yesterday, it did not go smoothly

For a while I had a machine with no means of I/O. No wifi, no ethernet port, no disk drive, USB drivers not working

That was fun

Arperum

1:42 PM

Sounds hilarious.

Private Pansy

I just fed the chatbot a couple thousand lines of pony

Let's see if it starts vomiting up rainbows and unicorns

StrixVaria

@fredley ew

Unionhawk

@PrivatePansy Next thing to feed it

fredley

@StrixVaria Yup. I haven't had a system in that state since about 1996

Private Pansy

I just realized I also fed the bot all of the songs on the show

So the bot will also sing

Lazers 2.0

1:47 PM

0

Q: Guide is not spawning

I have a 20-room house that is close to a 'spawn corruption'. Only 6/20 rooms were taken. NPCs are not spawning, like the guide, nurse, and tax collector. Is it because my house is too close to corruption or something else?

terraria

fredley

Luckily it was a transient bug with the particular laptop that I was working with, that could be fixed by.... turning it off and on again...

StrixVaria

I've been impatiently waiting for my upgrade icon thingy to actually say I could upgrade, but maybe I'll hold off a bit on that now.

fredley

.... xD

@StrixVaria You can just make it go any time, there's a download page

Private Pansy

@fredley *twitch*

Unionhawk

@PrivatePansy Will it indicate singing too or just provide pony lyrics?

fredley

1:48 PM

@StrixVaria Google "Laptop name" Windows 10 upgrade

StrixVaria

My desktop has the app/tray icon thing, but my laptop doesn't (and is up to date), so I don't know what the deal is with that either.

Private Pansy

@Unionhawk Just lyrics.

Unionhawk

Lame

Private Pansy

You can usually tell if it's singing

I guess I can teach it songs exclusively

Who spells DB like that

StrixVaria

> JScript Script File

fredley

1:53 PM

@PrivatePansy The best kind of correct people

StrixVaria

Are there non-Script JScript files?

Martin Sojka

@StrixVaria They have one in the list, though they name it "JSON File".

Private Pansy

@StrixVaria Brought to you by the Redundant Department of Redundancy

Unionhawk

The Redundant Department of Redundancy Department

StrixVaria

@MartinSojka Well, I also wasn't entirely clear on whether JScript and JavaScript were the same. I guess they are?

Private Pansy

1:55 PM

@MartinSojka Hmmm. Well JSON files are arguably script files since you can run them as such, though they never actually do anything since they contain no actual instructions

@StrixVaria Technically speaking JScript is the Microsoft dialect. They use the name to avoid trademark

Unionhawk

a subsidiary of The American Dodgeball Association of America

fredley

@PrivatePansy JScript Object Notation Javascript Script File

Private Pansy

Using the same argument though an empty file is also a valid JScript file

Martin Sojka

@StrixVaria In almost all cases you see "JScript", it means "JavaScript". In some few cases "ECMAScript".

I blame Microsoft.

Private Pansy

@MartinSojka That's usually a good bet

Unionhawk

1:57 PM

Well I blame @fredley

fredley

And I blame @Wipqozn

Unionhawk

Fair enough

fredley

Blame is transitive

@Frank blames @fredley and @fredley blames @Wipqozn => @Frank blames @Wipqozn

Wipqozn

yup, basic logic.

fredley

brb, diagramming

two bugs

2:02 PM

Please construct a Venn diagram of blame

Lazers 2.0

1

Q: First video-game to have a coherent consistent world

I've recently been looking at the games that defined my childhood. And one of those was the game that brought me from RTS / Shooter games to RPG's, Albion by BlueByte. It's what caused me to turn to games such as Baldur's gate, Icewind Dale, and other similar titles. And it's probably what motiv...

gaming-history

0

Q: In Clash of Clans, is it possible to attack another member of your clan in a normal raid?

Something that I've been curious about for a while. I know the algorithm puts you against players with similar trophy levels, but could you, in theory, attack another member of your clan?

clash-of-clans

fredley

@twobugs I'm making a graph of blame, which is I think what you want

two bugs

That will suffice

Unionhawk

As you can see, blame assigned to @Wipqozn is down 50% this quarter

the shareholders of The Bridge are very concerned with these figures and ask what will be done about it this quarter

Private Pansy

Like this, perhaps? With @Wipqozn in the middle

fredley

2:06 PM

@PrivatePansy This is exactly what I'm creating

It might take a while

There's a lot of data

MadMAxJr

Oh, shareholders? Members and executives of the bridge, why is it so difficult for new users who visit the site to see that this is not a discussion forum?

Private Pansy

@MadMAxJr Because we aren't desperate enough to plaster the site with "This is not a discussion forum" in 72pt Impact in <blink color="red">

Unionhawk

As Chief Wrong Officer, I ask you: does it even matter when the posts are deleted by review anyway?

Private Pansy

(You have no idea how hard it was to type that)

MadMAxJr

@PrivatePansy Bonus point for use of the blink tag.

StrixVaria

2:09 PM

@PrivatePansy This tree is very visually appealing.

MadMAxJr

Hmm, how long until that data visualization gets run through deep dream?

Private Pansy

@StrixVaria bl.ocks.org/mbostock/4063550

@MadMAxJr If you have to ask, @fredley's probably already done it

MadMAxJr

@Unionhawk As a member of the 'Bad ideas that nobody should listen to' department, I say we pre-emptively ban users before they can post as this will prevent the small fraction who are posting conversation and not answers.

badp

@PrivatePansy the good old WitM attack

MadMAxJr

What is that data anyway?

Private Pansy

2:12 PM

@MadMAxJr I took it from blogs.nature.com/ofschemesandmemes/2012/03/16/…. Apparently it's just used as an illustration of an undirected acyclic graph viewed as a tree

I'm sure I'll learn what that means next semester. Until then I'll remain in blissful ignorance

fredley

Number of blames to process: 1240

This will take a while, quite a lot of manual santizing to do

Unionhawk

Many of them are going to be @Unionhawk blaming @FEi I'm sure

fredley

Dealing with 3lps is an issue

Unionhawk

Hahahahahaha

two bugs

:| So this widget someone else wrote doesn't do what I wanted to do. I decided to write my own. I got about 75% of the way there easily, but the last part I see why the widget was so dumb: you have to do all this resizing junk with dojo

Unionhawk

2:15 PM

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey

Lazers 2.0

-1

Q: minecraft launcher wont open said that it was moved asks:if you whant to delete this shortcut

please help wont open tried evry thing

minecraft

two bugs

wat

If I do it programmatically it doesn't work, but by hand in the JS console it's fine

fredley

Private Pansy

@fredley Huh, why use a spreadsheet?

I mean, I'm sure a little regex won't hurt...

fredley

@PrivatePansy Spreadsheets are very powerful tools for data processing. I did get this far with plaintext (ST3) though

Generated a csv

Use Excel to further santize it and produce the actual graph

Private Pansy

2:20 PM

Should've dropped the articles

Too many 'the's in there

fredley

@PrivatePansy Yeah, that's the kind of thing I can do in the text, then reimport

Unionhawk

Quickly, everyone start blaming things so that @fredley will have to add data

Martin Sojka

... | sed -e 's/\s+/_/' -e 's/^i_blame_/I blame /i' | ...

Private Pansy

@MartinSojka Hex! Burn the witch!

badp

sed? TURN UNDEAD

Frank

2:25 PM

Well. This is turning into a great long weekend.

AC in the server room crapped out again.

Guess who's on call?

Martin Sojka

So I'm an undead witch now ...

MadMAxJr

@Frank RX-79? GP-03?

Frank

@MadMAxJr Sadly, no.

Private Pansy

@MartinSojka Who is that suppose to be?

Martin Sojka

@PrivatePansy Just an undead pony, according to the creator (warning, DeviantArt link, potentially NSFW).

fredley

2:32 PM

This data is filthy

Rapitor

Why US can't have nice things

2

Unionhawk

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I am not a fan of this

badp

@MartinSojka no, sed is undead.

You're a witch for summoning the undead

Martin Sojka

I was quite surprised I could find a matching MLP image so quickly, to be frank.

Private Pansy

@MartinSojka If you can think of it, the Internet will probably have a pony of it

Unionhawk

2:34 PM

I'm not a fan of this

►

5pike

@PrivatePansy and a Sonic

Private Pansy

@Unionhawk Ponies? The Undead? sed? The US? Sysadmins?

two bugs

@Rapitor Damn. RIP.

Arperum

@PrivatePansy Maybe he just doesn't like filthy data or DeviantArt?

Unionhawk

@PrivatePansy red bubbles, obviously

(this code isn't cooperating with me)

(it's cooperating now after much coercion)

yey it built

Lazers 2.0

2:42 PM

0

Q: How are nicknames determined?

Throughout your careers in either Poker Night at The Inventory or Poker Night 2, your 'nickname' (something like Ziggy Flophouser or whatever) will consistently change depending on your stats throughout. I've been wondering, however, what the different stats are that determine all the nicknames. ...

poker-night-2

Unionhawk

yey it worked

fredley

I think making this graph is going to take the rest of the day

Unionhawk

@fre pls

fredley

Surprise front runner for blame: lack of sleep

Unionhawk

Is there a top user who needs to sleep more?

fredley

2:49 PM

@Unionhawk I'll get to that

Private Pansy

3:18 PM

The bot is still processing pony

Maybe I need to leave it overnight

Unionhawk

It would probably take like 3 years to do Bridge then

Rapitor

what are you breaking

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: How do I keep my gold?

After clearing the first league, I'm finding it difficult to accumulate enough gold to upgrade my hideout. Upgrades are costing 25-30k gold and it takes many hours to passively generate that gold. I find that any gold I do store gets stolen quickly, resulting in me getting nowhere. What are so...

ios king-of-thieves

Private Pansy

Hmmm, the bot trains itself using simple pattern matching to find the closest response in history

I'm not sure if the transcript is the best training data

Unionhawk

As in training on Bridge is a bad idea or training on Pony is a bad idea?

Arperum

3:33 PM

@PrivatePansy As you said, it'd result in constant linking of friday

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: i can't do any science at all but flying ships

i have gone into space and went EVA and right clicked on my kerbal nothing appeared (i am in science mode) i can't use the mystery goo container or science jr. i am on a mac and using 1.0.4

kerbal-space-program

Frank

Okay. Looks like all the fun server stuff is fixed.

fredley

YiJiang is Private Pansy right?

Unionhawk

yes

badp

3:50 PM

@Frank "People were having fun on our server. We fixed the glitch."

Frank

@badp More like, "Oh shit! Server room is overheating! Servers must shut down!"

Rapitor

Deadpool | Trailer Trailer [HD] | 20th Century FOX

►

Frank

This answer is sheer plagiarism

GodEmperorDune

@Rapitor wat

Private Pansy

4:05 PM

Chatbot is a failure. To do the string matching it requires the installation of a C module, otherwise the pure Python implementation would take too long

On Windows compiling the module requires VS, and I can't get the SDK (which is just the compiler) to install properly

Unionhawk

RIP

Lazers 2.0

-2

Q: How to make an apk for my coc private server

I would like to know if anyone has figured out how to make an apk for my personal coc server. If not, then I will have to go through extracting, decompiling, then reverse engineering the file. My goal is to provide my users with a simple one click style solution. Thanks, thePROgrammer.

clash-of-clans server-administration

Kevin van der Velden

@PrivatePansy cygwin could work

badp

@PrivatePansy wait wat

Kevin van der Velden

Python is kinda slow

Private Pansy

4:08 PM

It's asking for pypi.python.org/pypi/python-Levenshtein

badp

yeah but... regular expressions?

oh.

Private Pansy

No, it uses distance matching, not pattern matching

I'm not too familiar with the algorithm

So I don't know what sort of complexity we're talking about here compared to regex

Kevin van der Velden

Eeeh you can't compare the two

Regex is a language in and of itself =p

GodEmperorDune

distance is how many character changes (add/remove/edit) it takes to go from one string to the other

badp

yeah this looks like a slow problem regardless

what was the goal?

Private Pansy

4:11 PM

I found a chatbot implemented in Python, so I thought I'd use the MLP transcript as training data

badp

for what?

Private Pansy

By default the bot uses simple edit distance to figure out the best response. It collects the responses and adds that to the training data

badp

uhh

Unionhawk

what

badp

basically when it wants to reply to a message it'd find the nearest matching line in the MLP transcript and reply with the follow-up?

Private Pansy

4:13 PM

Wait, no. Let me reread this again...

I think so

badp

that's... a lot of possible matches

Private Pansy

Hmm. That's not very interesting, to be honest.

Unionhawk

That sounds like a recipe for madness

@PrivatePansy What would be more interesting, a bot that just replies with random MLP snippets?

GodEmperorDune

A better chatbot would respond to messages with a random emoji

Rapitor

Peacock Spider 13 (Maratus personatus)

►

cutest little fella

Unionhawk

4:14 PM

@GodEmperorDune .... xD

Private Pansy

No, a recipe for madness would be to mix in the Bridge's transcript, and make a game out of guessing which is which

Unionhawk

(only emoji required)

GodEmperorDune

Hamstare is only emoji required

Unionhawk

I feel like that should be easy

Should be

To, figure out, anyway

Private Pansy

@KevinvanderVelden I think you can estimate the big O complexity classes of relatively simple regexes

MadMAxJr

4:17 PM

Aww. I just read that depressing article on the death of Hitchbot. :(

Kevin van der Velden

@PrivatePansy oh yeah, given a regex you can say the big O, but you can't compare regex and distance matching

Unionhawk

Yeah, it's O(whywhywhywhy)

Private Pansy

Actually, without backtracking, shouldn't most of them be close to O(n)?

Kevin van der Velden

Yeah somre are, stackoverflow.com/questions/4378455/…

murgatroid99

I'm pretty sure edit distance is O(n^2), where n is the length of the longer string

Private Pansy

4:19 PM

Yeah, that's what I thought. They'd be quite similar to finite state machines

Kevin van der Velden

They are in fact finite state machines

murgatroid99

@KevinvanderVelden well, they're functionally equivalent to DFAs

But they're not necessarily implemented as such

Kevin van der Velden

True

murgatroid99

And modern regexes aren't actually "Regular Expressions" in the theoretical sense

Private Pansy

Ah, yeah. And some dialects have variations that cannot be fulfilled by a finite state machine

murgatroid99

4:22 PM

I think even backreferences (like (.*)\1) can't be implemented by DFAs

GodEmperorDune

Regexes these days can't even parse html

Kevin van der Velden

Lazy, just plain lazy I tell you

Unionhawk

So my code is about ready to begin pretesting. I'm scared.

fredley

I give up

4

This is about 30% of the data

Kevin van der Velden

I like @Arperum's tiny offshoot

Unionhawk

4:35 PM

dEAR GOD

fredley

@Arperum Sleep more

Unionhawk

What the balls is even happening here

MadMAxJr

Proof that Wipqozn is the sum of all things here.

And Kalina apparently has a macross cannon for drawing association lines.

Unionhawk

Heh

Sterno

@fredley kfVsfOSbJY0 isn't high enough

user15026

4:38 PM

No, @wipqozn isn't the sum of all things, he is just apparently scientifically the worst.

2

MadMAxJr

I like how azerty keyboards is somehow relevant with only one reference point.

murgatroid99

@GodEmperorDune Ironically, given the meme, many dialects probably can

It's just ugly and error-prone

MadMAxJr

Pretend this diagram isn't association, but military movements.

Unionhawk

@Sterno I don't blame kfVsfOSbJY0. I blame you

Yuuki

@MadMAxJr So the English/British want to invade me?

(prepares the anti-@fredley defenses)

MadMAxJr

4:39 PM

@Yuuki Possibly with lasers.

Sterno

@Unionhawk Transcripts prove its not my fault. I never knew about Friday until I was trolled in here with it by another user.

Unionhawk

@MadMAxJr The great Wipqozn fortress is apparently impenetrable, as many large military movements have been made against it

MadMAxJr

Attack on Wipqozn

Unionhawk

@Sterno I still blame you.

Sterno

I blame urmom

two bugs

4:41 PM

@Unionhawk Or it is easily captured but still strategically significant

Private Pansy

@fredley What did you use to generate that?

A chord diagram by the way might have worked better

Sterno

May 12 '12 at 5:08, by Fluttershy

►

MadMAxJr

We as a whole are at war with: Wipqozn, Canada, lack of sleep, everyone, the internet, The British, windows, ponies, and more.

5

Sterno

THAT WAS THE FIRST REFERENCE TO kfVsfOSbJY0 IN CHAT

And so 3 years of misery began

Private Pansy

@MadMAxJr But not Eurasia

MadMAxJr

4:43 PM

@fredley That is only 30%? I'm actually eager to see a more in-depth visualization.

Though that could result in an even larger, more powerful Wipqozn

Unionhawk

@MadMAxJr And @Arperum is at war with azerty keyboards

MadMAxJr

Origami Robot made a flanking maneuver from the east and was not heard from since. :(

two bugs

I didn't even know AZERTY keyboards existed

Private Pansy

Also Mobile Chat. Can't ever forget about Mobile chat

Unionhawk

Totally can forget about it

Yuuki

4:44 PM

@Sterno Huh. So it's actually @Fluttershy's fault.

MadMAxJr

I'm mildly concerned that Wipqozn's immediate defenses are ponies, the British, and the Internet.

Sterno

@Yuuki Pretty much

Unionhawk

@Yuuki Nope. It's @Sterno's fault.

Sterno

But @Wipqozn probably drove him to it

two bugs

@Sterno And he was under direct orders. From YOU.

MadMAxJr

4:46 PM

Badp has apparently had influence on every major military movement, but not in signifigant force... Even opposing sides.

Private Pansy

Apparently the only person to blame me for anything I'd @badp, at least in the early days (assuming data is parsed chronologically)

Sterno

@twobugs If @Wipqozn followed my orders, the world would be a better place.

Private Pansy

I feel so left out :(

badp

@PrivatePansy Well that's just your own damn fault.

Private Pansy

What have I ever done to you :(

MadMAxJr

4:48 PM

This is a visualization of the Sengoku (Warring States) period of Arqade.

Private Pansy

Except ponies. Which I guess there were a lot of

badp

@PrivatePansy NOTHING! That's the point.

MadMAxJr

Interesting that while focused on a few major targets, Kalina still had time to deploy troops against Everyone.

Sterno

Book blurb:

Private Pansy

@MadMAxJr Romance of the One Hundred and Thirty Eight Kingdoms

Sterno

4:49 PM

> DON'T LOOK DOWN

Because you're trapped. With a beautiful, terrified woman. On the 40th floor of a deserted office building. By the psyshopath they call "The Butcher."

Worst writing ever.

Unionhawk

What

Private Pansy

Is that typo actually in he blurb?

MadMAxJr

I'm not sure what the war on Lack of Sleep is about. Or how you wage that war.

two bugs

@Sterno The plot of Diablo 4

Sterno

The plot. Of Diablo 4.

Private Pansy

4:50 PM

@MadMAxJr It's like the war on Christmas

MadMAxJr

Diablo 4 actually takes place in a modernized office skyscraper.

Sterno

@PrivatePansy I cut and pasted, so probably.

two bugs

@MadMAxJr It's a gritty modern day reboot.

MadMAxJr

Your first quest is to get down to The Butcher in HR and turn in your I-9 and hire forms.

Private Pansy

Except this one is waged using coffee and tea

Yuuki

4:51 PM

@PrivatePansy That's not a typo. Psyshopathy is a real condition, stop your discrimination.

two bugs

After the success of the Warcraft movie they went all in.

MadMAxJr

I just beat up the water cooler and it dropped a Fanged Eagle Stapler of the Snake, not bad for a blue.

Private Pansy

@Yuuki Damn you, you made me look

Yuuki

:D .... xD

Private Pansy

@Sterno In that case, yes. I have read fanfic descriptions that are more compelling (and surprisingly few that are not)

two bugs

4:53 PM

Angels and Demons are just employees at different corporations. Really makes you, like, think... man.

MadMAxJr

@twobugs ... There was a cheap RPG on DriveThruRPG a few weeks back that was exactly this idea.

It's a corporatized version of the Knights of the Round legend.

two bugs

I like that almost any intentionally bad idea I can come up with someone has already made into a hopefully amusing game.

MadMAxJr

The players manual is an employee handbook.

Private Pansy

@twobugs Righteous!

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: PS3 backup with another HDD

My PS3 died with YLOD couple of weeks ago and I got my new PS3 with 160GB hdd today. I also have my old hdd with 500GB including all my game saves. Can I somehow restore my game saves to the new hdd with the older one? If I use SATA to USB -cable to connect my old hdd to PS3, can I restore my ol...

ps3 hard-drive

0

Q: Achievements have not unlocked in offline mode

I've been playing Poker Night 2 in offline mode for two days now, and have carried out the criteria needed to unlock some of the achievements, including a bounty item. Unfortunately, the achievements weren't unlocked. And even now while I have Internet access, they will not unlock. I have to do t...

poker-night-2

two bugs

4:56 PM

@MadMAxJr That's clever.

I wonder, did anyone make a Dilbert tabletop rpg? If not, why? If so, why haven't I heard of it?

Private Pansy

@badp So... More ponies?

Unionhawk

@badp requires additional horse words

badp

@PrivatePansy I can't blame ponies on you.

Unionhawk