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6:00 PM
then the pay2win shows
 
Eh, there's almost always going to be some element of pay2win. I feel like it's not too bad in Hearthstone, but at the same time it does suck to start out with basically nothing
 
Scrolls is fairly decent at not being pay2win
last I played it, the only way to get new cards was with in-game gold
you could buy starter decks with cash, but they're just starter decks
 
@Chippies That doesn't sound bad at all. I might check it out when I get tired of Hearthstone
 
@originaluser I believe there's a demo version of it available as well
so you can try without buying
 
Even better
 
6:06 PM
I like Scrolls more than Hearthstone, but I'm too lazy to get good at either
I play Scrolls like once every couple months
 
I'm lazy as well so I just play like a fool and scream at my computer, which is surprisingly entertaining
 
hmmmm
whats the roles on being alone in an office :<
i might fall down and die or something
 
Don't die
Those are the rules
 
That reminds me of a really awesome ongoing thing on Workplace SE
 
workplace se?!
what do they discuss :/
 
6:07 PM
There was a guy whose workplace would lock and bolt all the emergency doors
 
Rule 1: Look good, Rule 2: Don't die, Rule 3: If you have to violate rule 2, don't violate rule 1 doing it (look good dying)
 
and then the same guy posted another question about how he had to doctor data for them
 
@originaluser This sounds like this even being possible violates some kind of building code.
 
It's like when AOL released search histories and you could see people anonymously descend into madness
 
@StrixVaria Probably
If you can bolt emergency doors from the inside, such that you have to undo it to exit with the door, that's probably against fire code
The door can be locked from the outside, obviously
Though it may be possible that a fire alarm automatically unlocks all emergency doors
For example, in an airport, activating an emergency exit sets off alarms, and the door can be opened in 10 seconds
Why am I thinking this deeply about this
What the hell @Uni
 
6:13 PM
Yeah, in my understanding, certain doors are rigged so that they need some kind of constant electricity to stay locked. That way if the building loses power, you don't get trapped inside.
Alternatively just install one of those push-bars I guess.
With no handle on the outside.
 
It sounded like these doors would be locked such that you could only use specific non-emergency exists
which kind of defeats the concept of emergency exits
 
Loss of power could be considered an emergency
In some cases
 
My two fire exits both have deadbolts on them. Mind you I work in a secure building.
 
@Unionhawk all depends how it's locked - if it's a glass 'break here to escape lock' then that's fine...
 
It depends on things and stuff I guess
Airport is the most obvious example of this at work. Hell, even like, Target has that sort of emergency exit implementation iirc
So you can't grab a TV and sneak out the fire exit with it
6 mins ago, by Unionhawk
What the hell @Uni
 
6:21 PM
Why am I still a shellfish?
 
Good question
 
@StrixVaria Clearly you need to become Gen R to avoid that
 
I don't have an answer for you
 
Every time I see a GamersGate email (the distribution platform) I cringe. Those poor bastards.
 
6:25 PM
@Sterno Yeah, really, RIP those guys
 
I have to say, if I had to guess which platform would've had its first HIB I would have gone with sony's
 
@badp Wait, what? (work)
 
@Unionhawk Humble "Nindie" Bundle (That's a portmanteau of Nintendo and Indie)
 
sigh
 
wat
 
6:26 PM
how is nintendo in anyway 'indie' ?!
 
@Unionhawk archive.is
 
@djsmiley2k they do whatever the hell they want.
 
who?
 
@djsmiley2k Someone once told me "Indie means whatever isn't Microsoft, Sony, EA, or Activision"
 
0
Q: When does spells unlock?

ardaozkalI know that I need to play, but when do they exactly unlock? Is there a list? I have finished first level and unlocked 3, and I wonder when the rest will unlock.

 
6:27 PM
rofl @originaluser
 
@originaluser UBISOFT IS INDIE: DATA ACCEPTED
 
It's for indie games for Nintendo's consoles
 
@badp still feels like it's uncomputable.
 
Indie game developers develop games for Nintendo consoles
I don't know what there is to compute
 
i equate indie to self publishing.
 
6:28 PM
@djsmiley2k don't worry, they still fucked it up. It's Americas only
 
@Rapitor me too
I don't like any nintendo platforms anyway ;/
 
nintendo self publishes a lot. therefore they are indie.
 
@djsmiley2k Begone, foul knave.
 
well the nes/snes were good :D
 
@Unionhawk archive.is/373LM
 
6:29 PM
@djsmiley2k I thought the same. but then I got 3ds and played WiiU.
 
You lazy bastard
 
I don't really have time for games anymore D:
 
Magicka 2 released today
 
@badp Compliment taken.
 
now if Splatoon is as good as it looks.. I may get a WiiU
 
6:30 PM
if you wanna coop, msg me on steam (link on profile)
 
@Rapitor so whose WiiU are you playing?
 
I have a 3ds, a 3ds XL, and a New 3DS
 
@ardaozkal I haven't played Magicka 1 since close to its release. I stopped because it was so, so buggy.
 
I have a problem.
 
Is the new one any better?
 
6:30 PM
> The first true First-Person Shooter for Nintendo 3DS.
 
@badp went to a LAN party.
 
Since 3DS can play DS games, doesn't Metroid Prime: Hunters count?
 
Honestly, I really recommend the Wii U to anyone thinking about one. Had a lot of fun with mine so far
 
No
 
@StrixVaria 1 was, 2 and Wizard Wars isn't. Holding down a spot would glitch game.
 
6:31 PM
"for Nintendo 3DS" implies a 3DS game, to me
 
@Powerlord what game?
 
Not just a game that can be played on a 3DS
 
@Rapitor Moon Chronicles.
 
@ardaozkal I did like the idea of the game. I'll look into the new one.
 
It's on the Nindie Bundle.
 
6:32 PM
Nindie is so dumb of a word I can't even fathom
 
I played Moon on the original DS. It felt weird. Not really my thing I guess, but well made.
 
Magicka 1 also kind of turned into "spam the same spell over and over". How fast can you press the right sequence of 8 keys to cast your spell!
 
@Powerlord can you plug in a mouse?
@StrixVaria depends on your software stack really
 
@StrixVaria First try Wizard Wars, it is a free Moba, on the same style, 2 looks much like it but has big differences to WW and similarities to 1.
 
@badp No. Which is probably why Metroid Prime: Hunters used the touchscreen.
 
6:34 PM
Hunters was pretty fun in multiplayer
 
Less so once the only people still playing were all using hacked carts with cheats
 
heh ofc
 
@StrixVaria also about this, they fixed it on magicka 2. you just click buttons to spell like in WW.
 
@originaluser I didn't even know Moon Chronicles was a sequel. The More You Know!
 
Prime hunters had so many places you could get outside the maps
Where you could like stand inside walls and shoot people from safety
So dirty
 
6:37 PM
@ardaozkal I meant the QWERASDF keys.
I really just want a key for "do the last thing I just did again".
 
@StrixVaria yes, the spells are now 1-2-3-4
 
I never played Prime Hunters multiplayer.
 
you right click and select one you unlocked
 
It was actually like the best multiplayer on the DS
 
qwerasdf is now just armors or shooting
 
6:38 PM
@ardaozkal We have having a miscommunication. I don't mean the pre-defined "spells" that you can learn. I mean the ad hoc ones you make on the fly by mixing different elements.
 
I never finished single player in Hunters either.
 
@StrixVaria oh I see now, however the limit was 5 and still 5, it was never 8 :D
 
You should go back to it, love that game
 
I don't know if the system is different in the new games somehow and I'm the one misunderstanding, though.
 
I made the mistake of backtracking to open doors with my new abilities and ended up fighting a boss way more powerful than I was.
(whoops)
 
6:38 PM
Heh
 
@Unionhawk what a terrible answer and comments
 
@ardaozkal Some elements required 2 keypresses to get (like steam or ice, maybe?)
 
@badp Hi welcome to SO I'll be your guide?
 
No sarcasm intended
 
@StrixVaria steam is fire + water, therefore "QF". Ice is just "R".
 
6:40 PM
A stack trace traces the call stack. That's not a call stack, that's just one line number
The book he's reading agrees as the listed output is quite understandably longer
 
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Q: Terraria: Accept button not working :(

skadeddiI go to multiplayer on Terraria and enter an ip. I click accept and go on to the port. I click accept again but the computer acted like I never pressed it. I try it over and over again but it still acts as if I never pressed it. Help!

 
@Powerlord I think this is an episodic remake or something.
 
@badp If we're talking about what I think we're talking about, then the stack trace looks fine since it was called later via the timeout thingy.
 
Would it go into that c calls b calls a throws error?
Or...?
 
6:41 PM
The error didn't occur from the original stack where the timeout was set.
 
@originaluser re:scrolls, it's cheap now ($5) and I've had a lot of fun with it even though I'm horrible. Neat combination of board and card game
 
It occurs later when the callback triggers.
 
@StrixVaria that's a great answer, why is it not there?
 
@badp It's not?
People probably circlejerking over how "dumb" the question is.
 
To be fair it had a dumb title
 
6:42 PM
6
A: Why am I not seeing a stack trace with 'throw new Error'?

YanivThis is what your code does: It calls method 'c', which calls method 'b', which calls method 'a', which throws an error (inside method 'a' there is a throw error statement). What you've posted is the stack trace (it shows you the line in the file where the error occurred).

 
Until @fredley came along
 
The answers are FAR dumber
 
2 hours ago, by Unionhawk
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Q: Why am I getting an error with 'throw new Error'?

Agent ZebraWhy am I getting the following error with this simple code below when testing on a node server? code/app2/i.js:35 throw new Error("here") ^ Error: here I'm actually expecting to see a stack trace (as per the book 'Smashing node.js'), but that's not happening. Here's the ...

 
The question in a title appeared to literally be "throw new Error is giving me an error"
 
Thanks go to @fredley for the edit love
 
6:44 PM
I wouldn't expect closures to be stack trace friendly.
 
@Powerlord yeah, you don't see the other functions in the stack trace because calling with a timeout removes them from the call stack
 
@Powerlord missing language feature is missing, the closure could just silently close cover a Stack trace variabile. At any rate the answers are wrong
That said I don't think any language does that
 
@badp that could lead to unbounded memory growth
 
Why hasn't one of you posted the answer then?
 
Maybe any language that does calls over the heap? I think Lisp does that.
 
6:47 PM
if you have a long-running server that asynchronously calls its own handler function in the handler function, the stack trace will continue to grow forever
for example
 
Call/cc and all that
 
0
Q: Where can I find Vitriol?

Mad ScientistI found the recipe for the superior swallow potion, but I'm missing one important ingredient: Vitriol. I'd guess that this is an alchemy ingredient, but I don't have a recipe for creating it. I also never saw anyone that sells it. Where can I get some Vitriol?

 
@murgatroid99 since we're theory crafting that function could access the variable and prune it.
 
@badp what I mean is that the call stack can have 437 copies of the same function, because it's called with a callback
 
Can we stop saying 'circlejerking'
It's disgusting
 
6:50 PM
@GnomeSlice ( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)
 
@GnomeSlice but it's a perfect metaphor
 
Say 'patting each other on the back' or something
 
@murgatroid99 I got that.
 
Honestly
 
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@murgatroid99 That's a really terrible argument for using language - it may be "perfect" to you, but it can still be massively uncomfortable for others.
 
6:53 PM
I dunno what a better metaphor could be but "patting each other on the back" isn't.
 
I mean I don't care enough to really give anybody shit about it, it just grosses me out
 
Circle back rubbing? :p
Mutual cakecraft.
 
@badp wat
DON'T ANSWER THAT
 
@Unionhawk it's where people are too busy crafting cakes for each other they don't realise the city is on fire
@Unionhawk DEAL WITH IT
 
YOU BASTARD
I am only consoled by the fact that it's not nearly as wat as I thought it would be
 
6:57 PM
@Lazers2.0 Er... What exactly does a superior swallow potion do?
 
Wit
 
U wit, m8?
 
Tea
Yea*
Cards
HDTV
 
@Unionhawk well yes it's probably also a sex thing.
 
Jesus chores
3
 
7:00 PM
Nothing never isn't a sex thing.
 
BAG
I'm going back to work
 
@badp True enough I guess
 
Triple negations? Probably someone's fetish
 
wut
 
0
Q: In terraria mobile, how do you farm the slime staff?

KAI TindallI heard that the slime staff is the rarest item in terraria. And I wanted it so bad that I decided to farm it but I don't exactly know how to farm it.

0
Q: What is Video Mode?

ardaozkalI just finished a bossfight and unlocked "Video Mode #2". What is Video Mode? Is it something like rockstar editor? How can I enter it?

 
7:17 PM
@Rapitor The first rule of @badp is just... don't ask questions
 
@Unionhawk that goes for the entire bridge.
even though I know that, I still get confused at what the hell you guys are talking about
 
Yeah true
I don't know what I'm talking about half the time
 
damnit.. with @origamirobot MIA we don't have the specs for the new ships
means i have to do research myself. dangit
 
7:33 PM
I'm certainly not researching for you
Courier being a fast-ish multirole
Diamondback being... a lighter freighter?
Possibly?
Or a medium multirole
I don't know
That's all I really want to know
 
Definitely going to add that to my fleet.
 
Okay, courier is a tiny ship
3x medium points...
Listed at 0 maneuverability. I don't believe that.
Pretty decent shields
So... it feels like a step from a viper?
Maybe?
 
New humble bundle!
For nintendo lovers (only for 3ds and wii u)
 
TELL ME ABOUT THE LAKON DIAMONDBACK THOUGH
I already knew pretty much everything I wanted to know about the courier by its form factor
 
nobody seems to even care about the DB... can't find anything on it
 
7:38 PM
bah
Maybe it's intended to be a multirole you can mine in or something?
 
Guys I have a tech question
 
I guess that would just be a multirole
 
My pc is open since last month
 
0 shutdowns
 
7:39 PM
apparently it's a shitty cobra
 
> Internet access blocked
Gah
Shitty cobra? Like, how shitty are we talking?
 
I get really low FPS now, would a restart/shutdown+1hour off+reopen fix it?
 
And in what aspect are we calling it shitty?
Cobra already kind of sucks at killing things (but can do it if you're going multirole one a budget)
 
same/worse specs as cobra. it's only upside is 4 utlity instead of 2.
 
giving it a shot
brb guys
 
7:40 PM
@Rapitor And it not being a literal broad side of a barn
 
93 base shields is pretty bad, it's definitely out as a fighter for me
 
it's got pretty good stock jump i guess
 
11 stock jump is pretty good, it may be near asp quality in that respect, I don't know
 
Oh snap
I forgot about that
I really need to set up my joystick
And whatnot
 
@AshleyNunn Hm, me too
 
So I can fight for someone in particular
 
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@SaintWacko They just seem to be such different things.....
 
...whoever we decide on (my vote is currently the princess)
 
7:44 PM
I wnated to side with aisling anyway... so this is good for me. clipper has crappy shields
 
@AshleyNunn At the same time...
ThinkGeek is being acquired by Hot Topic. Anyone who's tried to buy anything actually geeky there recently saw this coming.
 
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But then again, i was in a Hot Topic recently, and they had a lot of stuff I'd think as ThinkGeek nerd stuff anyhow.
 
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@TimStone Yeah, pretty much.
 
@Rapitor BOO
 
why boo
 
7:45 PM
Gotta maintain imperial tradition, man
Get out of here with your abolitionist ways
 
aisling is empire you dolt.
she's the princess that's been trying to figure out who attacked the emperor.
 
...wrong imperial woman whose name starts with "a" you dolt
Aisling Duval is the granddaughter of the current defunct emperor (daughter of Fred Duval, who was deemed "mentally unfit to rule" or something)
Arissa Laingvy is the illegitimate daughter of the current defunct emperor who did that thing
 
@TimStone I remember when it mostly sold tshirts for sysadmins with snarky, monospace taunts
Now it's so... branded
 
all I know is Patreus is insane and probably evil.
 
Meh, Senator Patreus is just ambitious
 
7:52 PM
Ok, seem it still sells those
 
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Q: How to kill/stop all bats from spawning?

Naruto UzumakiIm making a horror map in a cave system,i cant keep the bats from spawning!plz help

 
And also happens to have the largest private fleet of fighters in the galaxy
JEEZ
I haven't even been keeping up with galnet and I'm more on top of this than you are
 
@ardaozkal really depends on what's causing the low fps, you could have a memory leak somewhere. Having the PC off for an hour won't be any better than just a simple restart would, unless you have an issue with temperatures, in which case, you would have noticed low fps long ago
 
(I dunno why this question is working me up so much. Such dismiss, very disappoint, wow.)
(Also I thought node.js didn't have setTimeout?)
 
I hope they put that question on your gravestone
 
8:07 PM
define "they"
 
@badp SE. As a mod, they are in control of you now. :P
 
Jason's answer is better
 
@badp Calm down. Step away from the Question.
 
8:09 PM
It's very annoying that in order to debug my web app's behavior on my iPad I have to set up weinre
 
user15026
I HAVE A JOB
15
 
Step away from the question sir
 
rather than being able to do it in Safari
@AshleyNunn Congrats!
 
@AshleyNunn yusss
will the job let you smack stupid people on the head?
 
Oddly enough, there aren't many jobs where you are allowed to treat stupid people that way.
 
8:15 PM
@AshleyNunn yay!
 
8:26 PM
@AshleyNunn So, what kind of job?
 
user15026
@badp Probably not :P
 
user15026
@Powerlord Tech support for an ISP
 
@AshleyNunn At least you still have this place for smacking purposes.
 
user15026
@badp I am not sure I've ever smacked people here
 
@AshleyNunn I didn't know you had a tech support background.
 
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8:32 PM
@Powerlord I don't, in any observable job sense, but I've been slowly slowly working on my A+ cert and stuff
 
@AshleyNunn Right, I forgot about that.
 
For the most part, tier 1 tech support works off scripts.
That's why they always ask you to reboot, even if you tell them you already tried that.
 
user15026
Yeah, I am not too worried - from the looks of things, it's all stuff I know how to do from handling my own stuff
 
user15026
@JasonBerkan This x 1000 - it's not that they're stupid, or they think you're stupid, it's legit someone is going to freak the heck out on them if they don't follow through the script
 
@JasonBerkan Why is the T1 support script not a checklist holy crap I'm either a genius or an idiot
Probably the latter
 
8:35 PM
@AshleyNunn Well, I remember doing a "mock" tech support thing for A+ related stuff way back in the early 2000s.
I've never worked tech support, though.
 
@Unionhawk Generally because tier 1 is for dealing with the "stupid people".
 
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Q: How to beat the Katakan in Witcher 3?

Y U NO WORKSo, I play the game on blood, sweat and tears. It's a good challenge, especially the bossmobs take me a while to beat and the game is overall really fun and challenging. Recently, i started the quest I ran through and killed the drowner, not a big problem. But then I encountered the katakan, ...

 
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@Unionhawk Because a lot of people are going to say "yes I did the thing" just to get through the checklist and hten you will circle back through and they'll tell you what happened and oh, it will be something on the dang checklist
 
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@JasonBerkan This, too
 
Fair enough
 
user15026
8:36 PM
We had a routing thing when I worked dental insurance and people couldn't even handle inputting their account numbers correctly, I wouldn't trust them with a checklist
 
user15026
People are prone to just mashing numbers thinking that will magically bump them up a line
 
user15026
even if it doesn't
 
Back in the day, we had a policy of not asking the client to reboot. Instead we would ask them to shut down and unplug the computer for reasons. That way, they a) actually shut the computer down and b) checked the cables.
 
Why does this manual need to be so verbose? I'm writing out each step in fine detail instead of just saying "power on equipment", "perform diagnostics", and then referring to a later section that gives fine details for those steps.
 
It happened again. My rep change since last visiting Arqade was +23, yet the only things in my log for the past week are +10,+5,+5,+5
 
8:39 PM
One time, another support tech asked the client to unplug their computer and plug it back in. Their response? "I can't see back there - the power is out."
 
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@JasonBerkan .....oh, people.
 
Ugh probably stuck at the office for a bit because of the raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain
hmm
Okay then
This is fantastic
 
@Chippies I have a low fps for a long time now. However, after 30 min of cooling, it is a bit better. About memory leak, not sure what could cause that, but I formated my pc just because of low fps'es, made it a bit better.
@AshleyNunn GJ!
 
@ardaozkal is it only low fps after it's been running for a long time? How big is the difference? What's your specs? What game?
 
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@Unionhawk Lucky you
 
8:47 PM
Ashley Nunn: ISP Support / Deadly Cyborg hug-gunner.
Good business card.
 
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@MadMAxJr I approve.
 
@Chippies a bit awkward. gt820m, 8gb ram, i5-4210U.
 
Wife really wanted to go out for a walk, I didn't. Now it's raining. I don't have to go out, but I have to deal with wife sulking. Not sure if better...
 
I have low fps at the moment I open the game, but the month I got my pc, I had 60fps on everything high on csgo, now I get 30 on everything low.
 
@ardaozkal and you formatted it and reinstalled OS and it still wasn't getting same performance as it was when it was new?
 
user15026
8:50 PM
They want a driving record check and I haven't actually driven in 5 years, but I have a valid license, so I know the thing will be like "yup she is pro driver"
 
I can already guess that your laptop is not a gaming laptop, thus it doesn't have a very good cooling solution. It's full of dust, that's your problem. You gotta blow the dust out
 
@Chippies nope, even nearly killed the hdd superuser.com/questions/895331/bios-doesnt-see-mbr-hard-disk but still not the same perf.
Would replace my pc, but the seller stopped selling this pc after I bought mine (other models were much more worse and expensive than this)
 
@ardaozkal replacing it will only fix your issue until it gets full of dust again
 
@Chippies you say that I should open the interior of a laptop and clean it?
 
@ardaozkal depends on how confident you are in your abilities
I'd suggest blowing really hard into the cooling vents
bunch of dust should come out
not gonna be as good as a proper cleaning, but better than nothing
 
@TimStone rekt. thank god I'm not in us
 
you could even use a vacuum cleaner to suck the dust out, although some would advise highly against it, because vacuum cleaners generate static
 
@Chippies brb
 
last time I saw a dell laptop being open, the guy ended up breaking the motherboard (he needed to get the HDD out, because the laptop was dead already)
so I wouldn't bother with opening it up myself
consumer dell laptops aren't meant to be maintained by the user, they're a huge pain
 
Why must it rain so
 
8:59 PM
Test time
@Chippies lol, mine is dell too...
Blowed a bit
 
@ardaozkal I'd suggest you use something to monitor temperatures to see if the fps drops as the temps increase
 
nope
hwmonitor seems ok
 

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