The Bridge

fredley

4:00 PM

Oooooooh

Also, you can phone gap?

Panic Bomb

If there's no official API then making chat support that will work better than that is probably difficult to impossible

RedRiderX

@fredley ish

fredley

Want a job?

RedRiderX

...

What job?

Ronan Forman

@red this doesn't seem to be working.

RedRiderX

4:01 PM

@RonanForman :(

@RonanForman How is it not working?

fredley

@red phonegapping and general Web dev

Powerlord

I wonder if I should try writing an Android app to remotely manage Source game servers. I don't think one exists yet.

fredley

London

Krazer

@fredley it's Cordova now!

badp

@PanicBomb the guys in Charcoal seem to have figured out how to get a JSON feed of events over web sockets

of course, reading is just half of the equation.

fredley

4:02 PM

@kraze eh?

RedRiderX

@fredley I am extremely flattered by the offer but I currently have a general web dev job in Canada

Powerlord

Nope, I'm wrong, one does exist.

Krazer

@fredley Phonegap -> Cordova

badp

At any rate, I have the feeling that some things about chat might improve in the near future

Powerlord

Meh, I could write one as a test anyway since I've never really done mobile app development.

RedRiderX

4:03 PM

And I'm still pretty much an Ensign class web dev.

Panic Bomb

@badp Yeah, I just figure that trying to basically re-implement the chat client without official API support is just asking for bugs all over the place

fredley

@red ensign class is what we ~~can afford~~ want

Panic Bomb

But it's probably theoretically possible if someone is clever and/or dedicated enough

fredley

But yeah, London

Krazer

@RedRiderX Fact: The Ensign class sailboat is the largest class of full keel boats in North America

Powerlord

4:04 PM

Speaking of jobs, I saw one elsewhere in the govt I work for that is working with the same type stuff I do now that pays more. I should get off my arse and apply for it.

Ronan Forman

Wipqozn

@fredley is trying so hard to find some ~~sucker~~ lucky developer to take over his phonegap responsibilities.

fredley

@kraze maybe that's why our careers 2.0 ad was such a failure

@wip I have none, honest!

Krazer

@fredley you have an ad? can I see?

RedRiderX

@RonanForman You're using mobile!

Bad idea

fredley

4:05 PM

@kraze think it expired

RedRiderX

This turns desktop into mobile

But you need to request desktop yourself

Wipqozn

Well I'm going to eat some popcorn and watch a movie.

Batman Returns I think.

fredley

@kraze yup, expired. :-(

Ronan Forman

@red oh I see.

Wipqozn

or Batman Begins

Krazer

4:07 PM

@fredley aww

fredley

@kraze basically phonegap/anything equivalent that makes mobileness Dev, London, cool startup, save the world, cure cancer etc.

Powerlord

@Wipqozn Not Dark Knight?

Wipqozn

@Powerlord Watched that the other day.

I also might watch Batman.

aka Tim burtons Batman

Panic Bomb

@Wipqozn starring Johnny Depp

Krazer

@fredley cordova/sencha/titianium? basically hybrid apps?

Ronan Forman

4:09 PM

@red That works, but it's a bit too cramped for my tastes.

Wipqozn

@PanicBomb No, Michael Keaton.

Michael Keaton was Tim Burton's first love. Johnny Depp was his second.

Powerlord

Oh yeah, speaking of Batman, Blackgate was actually pretty good... although finding all the secrets was a bit of a pain as you had to constantly use Detective mode and some were non-obvious (oh, this rubble in a vent? It's a secret you have to scan!)

Origami Robot

@Wipqozn was my first love.

Powerlord

Also, at least one boss battle was just annoying.

user15026

Okay, that was crazy. O.o (The soccer games whistle when they are done, and now I never want to hear a ref whistle again.)

fredley

4:10 PM

@kraze we have nothing yet, so up to whoever we hire what they want to use. A native is fine too.

RedRiderX

@RonanForman Ah I see

I did skew it with tablets in mind

So I could see that

Ben Brocka

@RonanForman oh goodness

fredley

@red Bad developer! *slaps wrist*

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn If you called me that I would punch you in the face.

RedRiderX

@fredley ?

fredley

4:12 PM

Ignoring tablets

RedRiderX

@fredley I don't ignore tablets I only thought of tablets

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Why would your first reaction be violence? That doesn't reflect well on you at all.

fredley

Oh.

Unslap

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn Haha If I told you not to do that would you do it

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice I'd never even dream of doing something just to annoy someone, @GnomieBear.

GnomeSlice

4:13 PM

ಠ_ಠ

fredley

@red imgur.com/MN6cQ3C

Me too

RedRiderX

@RonanForman How would you uncramp it for tiny phones?

8 mins ago, by RedRiderX

@RonanForman You're using mobile!

GnomeSlice

Awwwwwwwwwwwww yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah! kickstarter.com/projects/947226117/the-red-solstice

RedRiderX

8 mins ago, by RedRiderX

Bad idea

8 mins ago, by RedRiderX

This turns desktop into mobile

fredley

oh I see

That make more sense

Wipqozn

4:15 PM

Okay, I'm off. Toodles.

RedRiderX

I don't know if I should request it myself

That feels like a bad idea

fredley

I can only see one star though

RedRiderX

@fredley You can show more

fredley

Also dark theme not working for me :-(

RedRiderX

But yeah that is cramped

fredley

4:16 PM

But actually this Is awesome

RedRiderX

@fredley That isn't implemented yet :(

fredley

A big improve

Ment

RedRiderX

The big issues now are that I don't know if I can implement a dark theme option or open external links outside of the app

badp

@BenBrocka That's nothing!

fredley

Pretty sure you can

Ben Brocka

4:18 PM

Please don't tell me you've seen worse

badp

I believe this design is a winner

fredley

I've only ever done native apps though

GnomeSlice

Today's Listening

fredley

Code online?

RedRiderX

@fredley I thought so to but I'm hitting my head against a wall as to how to do it.

@fredley github.com/RedRiderX/chat-se-mobile-app

fredley

4:19 PM

Add me as collab? I've got an empty weekend

StrixVaria

There used to be sloths the size of elephants.

HELLO BRIDGE

Slothophants

@fredley Ah okay

that looks nothing like a sloth

user15026

4:20 PM

@spugsley HELLO

Panic Bomb

looks like a giant terrifying rat-man

badp

@fredley and thus waas the Bridge Chat App for Android was born, with ponies and hookers. Actually, forget the hookers.

RedRiderX

@fredley you mean to the adobe build thing?

What email should I use?

StrixVaria

@PanicBomb Imagine it with skin and sloth features.

fredley

On the github repo

Coronus

4:21 PM

@spugsley GOOD MORNING!

GnomeSlice

@badp @BenBrocka nytimes.com/2013/12/22/technology/…

fredley

@bad mostly ponies and hate

Panic Bomb

@StrixVaria I'm looking at the reconstruction concept

RedRiderX

Done

fredley

Awesome

I'll go and take a look

Ronan Forman

4:22 PM

@RedRiderX If it's just a browser wrapper can't you send a desktop request with it?

Origami Robot

@StrixVaria FAR LESS DEMONIC LOOKING

spugsley

would anyone like to see what the fuck my cat did while I was sleeping?

RedRiderX

@RonanForman Sure

Origami Robot

@spugsley DID HE BARF ON YOU?

RedRiderX

But it feels like a bad idea

Ronan Forman

4:24 PM

@RedRiderX Why?

GnomeSlice

spugsley

this used to be AN ENTIRE BOX OF TEA

GnomeSlice

@spugsley ahahaahahahahahahahahaahahaha

spugsley

I swept it up into a pile but do NOT BE FOOLED. it was EVERYWHERE

user15026

@spugsley O.o what happened?

Origami Robot

4:25 PM

@spugsley HE WAS MAD THAT YOU WEREN'T AWAKE TO PET HIM

spugsley

@AshleyNunn I have no idea. He just went fucking insane

user15026

@spugsley oh my :(

RedRiderX

@RonanForman It would probably require a lot of hacking to get it to work right

badp

Tea overdose?

RedRiderX

And the user only needs to do it once

But yeah it might be good to change that

Coronus

4:27 PM

@spugsley It's still an entire box of tea. Just... rearranged.

Krazer

@BenBrocka youtube.com/watch?v=eNUe8LUwqNo and youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0jlFL0V3QKk

spugsley

@Coronus most of the bags are opened and all the loose tea is ALL OVER THE FLOORRRRRRRRR

Coronus

@spugsley Does he like tea? Does he ever seem interested in the leaves? Or was this random acts of PAY ATTENTION TO ME?

fredley

@RedRiderX I'm on my laptop now, how do I compile this app?

RedRiderX

@fredley Yeah... about that

fredley

4:32 PM

@RedRiderX Ok, I'm installing phonegap...

RedRiderX

I'm using phonegap Build at the moment

build.phonegap.com

Because I'm too lazy to get android emulators

spugsley

@Coronus completely random. He has never ever ever cared about tea. I always leave it out on the counter. NOT ANYMORE

user15026

@spugsley That sucks :(

spugsley

yeah and he just locked himself in the bathroom accidentally but I'm leaving him there for a bit because it's kind of like jail.

2

user15026

Norbert took an interest in the 10lbs of onions on hte floor the other day - he didnt want the onions, but from what i can tell, he wanted the string on hte bag, so he pulled it until the string was loose and then there were onions all over my kitchen when I came home

fredley

4:33 PM

@RedRiderX I have an Android dev environment here already

RedRiderX

Ah

Then...

fredley

I'll investigate...

RedRiderX

I'm not sure if my project has all the necessary dependencies.

With Build you sort of just declare plugins and then Build fetches them

It would be great if Hydration worked, but it doesn't, and I don't know why

FEichinger

@spugsley Totally thought you were talking about @Ian here ...

spugsley

@FEichinger no when I threaten @IanPugsley with locking him in the bathroom, I call it Fart Jail

fredley

4:36 PM

@RedRiderX Build is confusing me

I have connected github, now what?

RedRiderX

@fredley Add the repo

Maybe you have to fork it yourself...

I can add you as a collab on my build

I think...

Powerlord

@RedRiderX You should be able to with GitHub.

FEichinger

@spugsley This ... did not make it any better.

Yuki

@AshleyNunn IIRC, onions are dangerous to cats and dogs, right?

spugsley

@FEichinger also hai :3

RedRiderX

4:38 PM

@fredley So make a new app and add a repo as the build source.

spugsley

@Yuki if they eat them

Yuki

Something something blood thinners?

Powerlord

@RedRiderX It's under Settings -> Collaborators

fredley

@RedRiderX Right...

I'll play

FEichinger

@spugsley BUTT

RedRiderX

4:39 PM

@fredley So...

Will you make your own app thing or should I add you as a collab on mine?

fredley

@RedRiderX I'm seeing if I can add yours

RedRiderX

@Powerlord This is for Phonegap Build

fredley

Otherwise I'll fork and push changes upstream

RedRiderX

Ah okay

fredley

What on earth is hydration, and why would I want it?

user15026

4:40 PM

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A: Are onions dangerous for my cat or dog and why?

Yes Feeding onions and garlic to your dog or cat is not only bad for their health, but is potentially fatal for your pet. It's not just onions or garlic, but the whole category of plants that fall under the botanical name Alliacea (see table below). Onion, garlic, and many variegations of th...

RedRiderX

@fredley It lets you auto update I think

But I can't get it to work

Powerlord

@RedRiderX Given that it pulls data from GitHub for public projects, I assumed you'd need to change it on GitHub

fredley

@RedRiderX I see. I've added your repo successfully.

RedRiderX

@fredley Kewl

Let the commit conflicts begin!

user15026

@Yuki but in my case Norbert doesn't eat them.

user15026

4:41 PM

He is very very good about not eating things that aren't cat food

user15026

Or like...meat food

Ronan Forman

@AshleyNunn He's a god damn animal!

fredley

@RedRiderX I'll work on my own branch

RedRiderX

@fredley Hmm I probably should to

Fluttershy

@fredley It's when your body has enough water for everyday activities. Without it, you could die.

RedRiderX

4:42 PM

I have to admit I haven't used git branching much before

fredley

@RedRiderX I've used branching muchly, but only on one-man projects

I'm sure my first attempt at actual collaboration will have no problems

2

My current workflow is to use merge, but I am aware I should be doing something with rebase, but last time I tried I fucked things up badly

RedRiderX

@fredley My knowledge of github collabs barely reaches that level.

I think I'll try to make external links work

And then make a branch for that

fredley

@RedRiderX Before you merge your branch to master, you merge master into your branch to resolve conflicts

once you've resolved and committed, switch to master and merge the branch

RedRiderX

Ah okay

fredley

Feature branches are the Right Way to do things I think

RedRiderX

4:47 PM

Now to figure out how to make external links work...

Private Pansy

Vodo has a mixed medium sci-fi bundle vodo.net/otherworlds

RedRiderX

I have a sneaking suspicion that they just don't

fredley

@RedRiderX For Native you choose which links won't open externally

Private Pansy

Does the "browser" support tabs?

RedRiderX

@fredley But to get this to work I had to use a inAppBrowser

@PrivatePansy lol nope

Lazers

4:48 PM

0

Q: Why games are lagging on my laptop?

I have a Dell laptop with these specifications: Intel B950 2.1 GHz 4 GB RAM Intel HD Graphics 2000 Windows 8.1 I know these specs are low but it runs games for others. I have seen people with same GFX card and play games without any lag on medium settings. For example, Fifa 14 works on this...

Private Pansy

Hmmmm, you could emulate tabs for internal links and pop open the browser for outbound links

RedRiderX

@PrivatePansy emulate tabs?

Private Pansy

Using iframes

RedRiderX

@PrivatePansy first method I tried

Chat.SE is like "lol nope" to iframes

Which is understandable.

Private Pansy

Oh, right, of course

I forgot. SE blocks iframes. Which is a little obnoxious, to be honest.

RedRiderX

4:51 PM

It would have given way more flexibility if I could have done that.

@PrivatePansy Eh I guess click jacking is technically what I'm doing

Sort of

0

Q: How to open link in external browser, from InAppBrowser? phonegap 3.3

I think target :_system not working because: NOTE: The InAppBrowser window behaves like a standard web browser, and can't access Cordova APIs.

cordova

fredley

Right, I think I'm pretty much there

Now to understand the code

FEichinger

@PrivatePansy (Actually XSS prevention.)

RedRiderX

@RedRiderX I'm basically where this guy is.

@fredley Good luck with that :P

My sass is mostly sane

2

But the rest?

fredley

I'm in index.js

Private Pansy

@FEichinger I thought it's just identity/content theft protection

RedRiderX

4:54 PM

Heck no

@fredley Oh gawd

The callbacks go all the way down

fredley

@RedRiderX That's pretty much js in a nutshell

RedRiderX

Only way to inject stuff though

I think

fredley

> JS: It's callbacks all the way down

It should be on a tshirt

Yeah I'm looking for the injection site

Aha, chat.window.js looks fun

Right

RedRiderX

@fredley That's mostly my previous attempts at jquery failing

I should dust that out

One current issue is that debugging is nearly impossible

fredley

In terms of opening external links is there js to do it? Because if so $('a').on('touchstart',function(){ //am I internal? });

RedRiderX

4:57 PM

So maybe I should get an emulator

fredley

@RedRiderX No android device?

RedRiderX

@fredley I have one

fredley

You can use Chrome inspector in webview apps if the appropriate line is set somewhere

RedRiderX

But debugging within the inAppBrowser

fredley

Chrome inspector with adb is magic

@RedRiderX Possible with native, again, no phonegap knowledge

RedRiderX

4:58 PM

@fredley It is

@fredley Ah okay

fredley

@RedRiderX If I made a native webview app that injected a js file and a css file would that make you happy?

RedRiderX

@fredley That should be lines 16 to ~35

But it doesn't work

fredley

@RedRiderX I see

RedRiderX

@fredley Heh yeah I guess

I mainly used phonegap because I didn't want to learn how to android

fredley

@RedRiderX If this works there's no reason though

RedRiderX

4:59 PM

@fredley True

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