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9:15 PM

did I miss some drama?

@kalina Only a question that got closed, had a massive comment fight, eventually got edited down into something even worse, and reopened.

kalina

"only" - that sounds like lots of drama!

I liek drama

shame all the comments got removed

Ben Brocka

@Fluttershy huh, that seems like even less of a gaming question now

Fluttershy

@BenBrocka Which is why I've voted to close it again. =P

user15026

@Fluttershy Wish I could.

kalina

9:20 PM

I duno I feel like there could potentially be a question in there, but that it would probably be horribly speculative

Fluttershy

@kalina Which is why it should be closed.

user15026

I don't feel it can be really fixed in a way that makes it a decent question here

kalina

I think that "Off topic" is the wrong reason though

The question should be closed as not constructive

Dan Hulme

My spidey sense always trips when people complain about speculative questions.

user15026

@DanHulme Oh?

Dan Hulme

9:26 PM

I've heard people use the term to describe a question for which there is a correct answer, it just requires an expert who knows the answer to post it.

user15026

Yeah, but if the person is like a dev or some such, no use asking it here

Dan Hulme

"We can't answer that, you'd have to ask a $person."

which is code for "I can't answer that"

if there's one person in the whole world who can answer, maybe it's not much use; but if it's just (say) anyone inside the games industry, then why shouldn't such a person answer?

FEichinger

It's code for "90% of the community couldn't answer it, even if they made an effort."

Dan Hulme

Getting expert answers to questions is kind of the point of the site

kalina

"my opinion is..." that the reason they're called trainers, is they train a particular attribute (for example, money or ammunition) to a particular level.

It's just my opinion though

and therefore not a valid answer within a Q&A framework

Ben Brocka

9:29 PM

@FEichinger The problem is more when it's 99.999% of the community

fbueckert

@DanHulme There's a reason we don't allow questions of that nature.

Ben Brocka

And that .001% is under an NDA

FEichinger

@BenBrocka I was more or less considering the active community. Which consists of what, 200 people?

Ben Brocka

(And probably doesn't exist)

kalina

I am guessing the reason Oak stepped in was there was a mini-flame-war in the comments?

Ben Brocka

9:31 PM

@FEichinger 4 people that can answer is plenty. Less than 10% of the community can answer my Neptunia questions...it's different when only someone working at capcom, on Megaman, on this specific title, in the graphic design department, can answer this question

FEichinger

@BenBrocka Also note: "if they made an effort", which includes, for instance, buying and playing the game to test it.

kalina

@FEichinger we frequently get the situation where there seem to be exactly two people on the site playing a particular game

it doesn't make those questions invalid

Ben Brocka

@FEichinger That's still putting the % of people who can answer well below 10%

Dan Hulme

If you need more than one person to answer, it's probably a list question or subjective

FEichinger

@kalina As I just said, I did qualify it with if they made an effort.

kalina

9:32 PM

just say it again

I didn't see it the first time

FEichinger

@BenBrocka ... That's exactly what I said. It's more than 90% who can't answer it, no matter how hard they try. It's probably even more than that, but it's still exactly the same point >.<

@kalina Hush you. Go set something on fire. Preferably something that isn't me.

kalina

It's such a shame you clarified your sentence like that

FEichinger

I know, right? Sorry for you. :P

kalina

you should be

watching silly reality TV shows about 90s pop bands

while I hate the music, I didn't realise that the music industry sucked these people in and then basically worked them to death until their respective bands broke up

badp

@DanHulme see, we aren't experts in History of The Internet

or History of Vidoegames

We're more like expert videogame players

That's close, but not the same

kalina

9:41 PM

@badp this, we play games

I couldn't tell anybody anything about gaming history in the 80s

badp

Can you tell people what was the first FPS that used BLOODY SCREEN (so real) to indicate damage taken?

kalina

it will be an ID game

either wolf 3d or doom

badp

Doom does gets you a bloody face, but it doesn't splatter the viewport in red

and blur it out

kalina

the screen goes red

Coronus

That's right, they did the aura

kalina

9:44 PM

low health and beserker

badp

Screen going red on low health is not something I remember

I could be wrong

kalina

maybe that's one of the ports

failing that it will be quake

nothing super fancy though, no blurring

badp

Welp, let's check some let's plays

Ben Brocka

@badp it does when you die

kalina

off the top of my head I wouldn't be able to tell you the first game to do blood splatter and blurring

badp

9:46 PM

@BenBrocka heh, isn't it the mark of a great question when you have to keep changing goalposts to match what you want to hear and not what you wrote

kalina

in fact, I'm not sure I could tell you any game that does blood splatter and blurring

I know there are some

I think Crysis 2 has it

doesn't L4D do blood splatter?

badp

I think Call of Duty does, I don't remember it having an health meter

Coronus

Yeah, Doom only used the red aura on hit, there was no visual indication of low health other than % and the face.

kalina

oh yeah all the CoDs do it as a replacement for health

badp

maybe it doesn't blur?

Ullallulloo

9:48 PM

@badp CoD1 has a health meter; the rest don't.

badp

then again you die so fast in CoD, it's like Quake instagib, only worse

(I've only played in local on a PS3 with friends)

(maybe it was blops? who knows? I didn't care to make a note of that.)

kalina

I don't think it was anything that recent

there isn't much gameplay innovation in modern FPS, it's mainly technology stuff

badp

Well, Red Faction tried to do OMG PHYSICS 2.0 in their FPSes

kalina

while I agree that does impact gameplay, it's still mainly technology

oh yeah, somebody donated me a graphics card an hour ago

I get to pick it up this weekend

I finally get to replace my old card with something not quite so old

badp

@kalina ...before or after your new phone?

kalina

9:54 PM

my new phone is delayed on account of them running out of stock

badp

oh dear

kalina

it may arrive on Friday or Saturday

badp

that sounds bloody awful.

oh. I thought the wait would've been way worse.

kalina

are you kidding, I'll finally get more than 20 fps in crysis 2

way more excited about that

badp

heh

I try and not think about that

It'd drive me insane.

kalina

9:56 PM

replacing an ATI 6750 with a Geforce 560ti

badp

Part of how I cope with my GPU is that I don't follow GPU news

...or naming schemes or what's in what generation

kalina

that card is nothing like some of the new ones out

but I'm getting it for free

badp

Yeah, you can't argue with that.

Coronus

@kalina In that way, it's slightly better than the new ones. ;)

and 560ti ain't bad.

kalina

way better than what I have

the rest of my machine will carry it through pretty much anything available atm I'd guess

Coronus

10:03 PM

I'm running a 9500 in one box and a 9800 in the other so I'm envious :P

It's past time for upgrades.

SaintWacko

I have dual 560m cards

kalina

the rest of my pc is pretty new in comparison to the graphics card, it's the only thing I didn't upgrade

I spent the money I had put aside for the graphics card on a sound card

Coronus

Oh I see.

kalina

do we really need the micro tag?

OrigamiRobot

WTF is micro?

kalina

10:10 PM

as in micromanagement

OrigamiRobot

No

kalina

it's a tag to state the question is about micromanagement in another game

badp

@Coronus I suppose they're only marginally better than a [GeForce] 9200m?

kalina

there are 10 questions on it, only 1 of them isn't related to starcraft

Fluttershy

Is Steam down for anyone else?

kalina

10:11 PM

@Fluttershy chat looks down but I was already logged in

ah no, it's all alive and well

badp

@Fluttershy Chat looks up

I've sent you a message. You'll get it when you come back.

Coronus

My computer at home is stilled logged in.

kalina

client is spassing out a bit though

could just be me, it's been minimised since Friday

badp

I've decided that it's Uninstall Everything O'Clock.

Coronus

@badp Yes, but quite a jump over the 8 series cards I replaced. I can't wait to replace those computers.

@badp Web chat looks really awful at the moment.

Fluttershy

10:16 PM

Well, restarting Steam did not help. =(

Oh wait. Maybe it did.

badp

You seem online to me

Fluttershy

Yep. It's working now.

badp

10:28 PM

►

wat

user43095

You haven't been doing a good job reviewing lately; take a break and come back in 7 days.

user15026

@jeffreylin_ ?

Ullallulloo

@jeffreylin_ Failed an audit?

badp

@jeffreylin_ You've been banned from reviewing for a while because you've been basically clicking "No action" on review items as fast as possible.

Ullallulloo

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Q: What are review tests (audits) and how do they work?

I recently received this rather amusing message while reviewing a user's first post: Congratulations! This was only a test, designed to make sure you were paying attention. This post has already been removed, but thanks for taking time to leave feedback for the author. What is t...

badp

10:36 PM

Just take a gander at your latest calls.

See the fourth latest? It slipped through the cracks somehow :)

user43095

I wasn't on at those times...

Coronus

@badp Right. Do like I do: Flag everything! (kidding!)

badp

@jeffreylin_ It's your nick there, man.

Ullallulloo

@jeffreylin_ It's UTC 0.

badp

Please don't make me spill out all the beans; I'd not be surprised if you didn't remember reviewing those

My intent is not to shame you but to inform you

user43095

10:40 PM

@badp Fair enough. Can I still flag stuff I see?

badp

@jeffreylin_ Sure!

kalina

wow I've never seen somebody get banned from the queue

sorry that's probably not helping things

Ullallulloo

Why does this still say "'Fire Aspect'" when the last edit changed it?

badp

@kalina It's not like there's horns and fanfare every time it happens

like, pinned messages on how I'm busy banning people and whatnot

that would be silly.

kalina

yes it would

I didn't see you ban anybody, you couldn't have been doing it properly

and I'm still here!

badp

10:45 PM

Congratulations for not being in the bottom 1st percentile of our userbase :P

Coronus

@Ullallulloo The last edit changed one of the "Fire Aspect" instances.

badp

(although I wouldn't quite put a review ban as bottom 1st percentile of our userbase)

Ullallulloo

@Coronus Oh, I see.

MBraedley

@Ullallulloo And the enchant on sword is still called Fire Aspect, not Flame.

Coronus

@MBraedley It's referencing a bow.

Ullallulloo

10:47 PM

@MBraedley Well, he's only talking about it on a bow.

there

Coronus

@Ullallulloo \o/

MBraedley

Oh, didn't actually read it, despite knowing which answer you were referring too. The answer was referring equally to bow and sword.

So last night's episode of Revolution? Called it. TVTropes will ruin your life

kalina

@MBraedley you are an evil person

I obviously need a script that filters out tvtropes links

MBraedley

@kalina At least it isn't one-boxed... yet

kalina

and replace them with "I AM AN EVIL PERSON"

MBraedley

10:51 PM

@kalina It's right there in the link text!

Do you have no self control?

kalina

@MBraedley I think I have enough willpower to just read one page

it still doesn't make you any less evil

MBraedley

@kalina Well, at least you aren't burning me with fire...

kalina

@MBraedley not publicly, I am certainly imaging how much fire I could burn you with though

Coronus

@MBraedley You can't see inside kalina's mind.

kalina

that's a good thing

FEichinger

10:58 PM

@kalina That solely depends on your ability to turn air into burning air.

kalina

the inside of my mind is scarey

@FEichinger I can turn anything into burning anything

FEichinger

@Coronus Now why would anyone want that?

kalina

accidentally a word

FEichinger

@kalina PROVE IT!

kalina

one chargrilled @FEichinger coming right up!

FEichinger

11:00 PM

@kalina That's number 3 then, isn't it?

kalina

no, it's like using the power of the sun to cook a microwave dinner

FEichinger

I ... don't feel anything, actually. And I'm still very ... cold.

Not much burning.

kalina

hmpf

FEichinger

You did that better last time, when you weren't boasting about your oh-so-infinite powers.

badp

@FEichinger It's okay, this might just heat you up.

kalina

11:01 PM

I must be tired

FEichinger

Looks like your ego limits them, sometimes.

@badp Oh, god, no. No. Just no. Get that stuff the hell out of my face.

kalina

violence against women and racism?

surely that's worthy of an offensive flag

Wipqozn

Suggest a new type of food for my friends and I to try.

FEichinger

@kalina I think that's ... kind of the point.

@Wipqozn Dirt.

Dirt is always a good choice for a turtle.

Wipqozn

My friends aren't turtles though.

FEichinger

11:05 PM

Well, then I'd recommend turtle to them.

Dirty turtle, in fact.

Coronus

@kalina Well, since the sun emits microwaves, the magic box that heats food unevenly is technically using the power of the sun.

MBraedley

There is only one reason why I'm rooting for Toronto tonight: they aren't the Bruins.

Also, it looks like CBC has decided to do some processing on the feed to improve the apparent quality.

Wipqozn

Oh, it's @MBraedley, perfect!

Suggest a place for my friends and I to eat on Friday, that isn't North American food.

Well, Canadian or USA

MBraedley

@Wipqozn there's an Indian place in the south end near the superstore

And the train station, if that localizes it better

Wipqozn

11:20 PM

@MBraedley Halifax has a train station?

MBraedley

There's also a Thai place in Burnside, but I suspect that's a little out of the way

@Wipqozn yeah, just up from pier 20

Wipqozn

@MBraedley Oh, and not thai food.

We eat thai food a lot, so we're trying something new

MBraedley

maps.google.com/…

Alenanno

@kalina Hey, I don't know if you noticed but I decided to delete the question. I'm sorry because you provided the answer but I felt that it didn't receive proper positive feedback and so I decided to take that into account and remove it. I feel that it has been misunderstood but more than editing, I can't do.

MBraedley

There's also an Italian restaurant on or near Spring Garden

Wipqozn

11:30 PM

@MBraedley Oh, Indian food. Yeah, I'll add that to our list.

Alenanno

@MBraedley Italian staff?

MBraedley

@Alenanno Don't know, only been there once. Given the demographics of Halifax, probably not.

@Wipqozn there's also this

Coronus

@MBraedley Mmm. I love Greek.

user15026

Oh holy crap, the TVTropes page for Degrassi is SO LONG AUGH and I cant stop reading it

MBraedley

@AshleyNunn Which Degrassi? Or are you old enough to remember the original?

Alenanno

11:41 PM

Oh hello @AshleyNunn

user15026

@MBraedley Reading about the newest incarnation. Was too young for the original airing of Degrassi Jr. High/ Degrassi High, but caught those in reruns as a kid. (I was 4 when Degrassi High stopped production, for reference)

user15026

@Alenanno Hello

user15026

I may have a slight addiction to Degrassi.

Alenanno

Is that a tv series?

user15026

@Alenanno Yep.

MBraedley

11:44 PM

@Alenanno Yeah, teen series

Ullallulloo

I wonder if I need all of those or if I should just try to install it without them...

Alenanno

Is it bad if I say I've never heard of it until now?

MBraedley

@Ullallulloo PIRATE!!!

Alenanno

:D

user15026

@Alenanno Specifically, this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degrassi:_The_Next_Generation

Ullallulloo

11:45 PM

@Alenanno Personally, I thought it was dumb.

user15026

@Alenanno Nah, its a Canadian made thing so that is not that surprising

MBraedley

@Alenanno It's Canadian

Alenanno

Yes, that explains it lol

Ullallulloo

@MBraedley nw.perfectworld.com/download

Ben Brocka

Canadians are allowed on TV?!

Ullallulloo

11:45 PM

@AshleyNunn It aired here in Illinois.

user15026

@BenBrocka Shush you

Alenanno

I don't think Canadian stuff is actually "imported" to Europe

user15026

@Ullallulloo Yeah, a couple US stations picked it up, but it is generally best known here, afaik

Ullallulloo

@AshleyNunn Oh, yeah.

MBraedley

@BenBrocka Name a prime time drama, and more than likely I'll tell you a Canadian stars in it.

user15026

11:47 PM

Face it we are everywhere

MBraedley

@Alenanno Some recent stuff is. Corner Gas comes to mind

Ben Brocka

Implying I'm familiar with prime time dramas

Alenanno

@MBraedley Never heard of that either... googles

MBraedley

@Alenanno A bunch of stuff has been shot in Vancouver, although some of it is produced by American companies.

Alenanno

Oh that's likely, even if I wouldn't be able to distinguish a footage in Vancouver vs some US city...

OrigamiRobot

11:51 PM

Dear Canada, Your geese pooped on my car.

MBraedley

@Alenanno It's stood in for Seattle, Colorado Springs, Caprica City, others.

Wipqozn

@MBraedley Athens looks good.

Alenanno

@MBraedley What is "it"?

MBraedley

@Alenanno Vancouver

Wipqozn

@MBraedley Have you ever tried Carribean twist?

Alenanno

11:55 PM

Ah ok :P I'd love to visit Canada. It looks like a nice place.

fbueckert

@Alenanno 'tis. Except during Winter.

Mostly because we point at laugh at people wo can't handle it.

Alenanno

lol

That's cruel man :P

MBraedley

@Alenanno <Cape Breton accent> Oh ya don't want to go to Van- coov -er. Come, discover the beauty of Cape Breton Island</accent>

Alenanno

:P

MBraedley

@Wipqozn No, haven't been to any place in the North End

Wipqozn

11:58 PM

@MBraedley: Decision made. We're going to Athens! thanks for the suggestion.

fbueckert

@Alenanno We're Canadians. We love Mother Nature, even when she'll straight up kill you for being stupid.

Alenanno

That's good.

user15026

@fbueckert Love Mother Nature, hate her geese.

MBraedley

@Alenanno That's an inside joke that absolutely nobody got here because they're either not Cape Bretonners and/or are too young.

OrigamiRobot

8 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot

Dear Canada, Your geese pooped on my car.

Alenanno

11:59 PM

@MBraedley Ah did not know that. :P

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