The Bridge - 2013-04-30 (page 2 of 8)

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Q: How do I learn to chose features like graphics, joystick, open world for my game?

This game is new and obviously the core gameplay mechanic of the game is learning the way the game works (deducing the formula between the sales numbers and ratings as derivative of what you do as a player). While you can keep making notes of various messages like "this geanre works well with thi...

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@YiJiang'sEvilClone The question (and problem) is real if badly written; it's just that the mod is in alpha and needs an unstable version of Minecraft Forge (... which is linked to from the mod's download page, mind, so that's definitively a PEBKAC class problem) and that both the problem and its solution will be likely obsolete in a week or two.

8:18 AM

morning people

@Blem Mornin'!

@kalina is Grumpy cat!?!

hey @NightExcessive

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@spyder this very much

@AshleyNunn I did just this

+8 5 hours ago reversal Serial downvoting reversed

VICTORY

shame it was only half of them

People really do serial downvoting? Really? That's ... beyond pointless.

8:25 AM

@kalina hmm?

@spyder fuck this, and this, and that, and this, fuck everything. hmpf

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@kalina Fuck ALL the things! No wait...

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I expected more views on that piracy question

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

1.1k in 19 hours isn't too bad. The question has to compete with blogs and stuff covering the same story

8:35 AM

The thing about that game-dev-tycoon story... is it really downloading the game illegally if it's uploaded by the creators, and seeded by their associates?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

It's not. You are getting a broken version of the game though.

@spyder need more IT crowd!

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Some people get really offended now when you ask them that.

Makes it all the more fun.

8:53 AM

@kalina Sometimes cartridges from NES has a DRM, which made the game difficulty insane if the game is discovered that it hacked and running on a non original NES. And on the Post-Soviet region the original NES did not exist. But games like "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2" we... successfully completed. Without knowing that the developers thought it impossible.

Most of pirated games in Russia but the increased difficulty doesn't scare this players :)

AH MY MANAGEMENT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I have a customer upgrade scheduled for right now

We have somebody from HR up here doing a presentation

I have been scheduled to sit in on this presentation so I can get some extra sleep

turns out, it's happening in the middle of my upgrade

I just got a whole "What do you mean you can't go to the presentation?" from my old manager

acting like I'd be sitting here chatting on some internet chat room or playing games instead

I FEEL INSULTED!

Well, I don't, but you get the idea

:)

@Blem MOAR

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9:09 AM

Hello Bridge. I'm after a new keyboard/mouse set for use with my gaming desktop. My Logitech MK250 set is no longer quite cutting it. Any suggestions? Ideally under £120-150 at very max for both.

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@tombull89 what kind of games do you usally play?

@badp is dog now?

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Q: Should I aim to create my own game engine as soon as possible?

Early on in Game Dev Tycoon, you're developing games from a garage. After your first couple of games you unlock the ability to research and create your own games engine. The threshold to move to your first office is to generate 1 million in capital which can be reasonably easily attained withou...

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@tombull89 I got the the razer naga, it is very nice with the extra button on the side for a lot of games, but there is no need for the amount it got, 6 buttons on the side placed right at the thumb is enough for most games

9:18 AM

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Q: Has piracy ever resulted in a developer getting shut down?

This question is somewhat taken off of a really interesting game I found browsing the web. Basically, the game's developers, after releasing it for sale, also released a version on a torrent site: The trick was, they put in a mechanic that, after playing for a while, would bring down your sa...

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If you could, please tell me what you think of the question

fit for GameDev?

I'll be offline in a bit, just ping me

it is sold as a mmo mouse, but i found it very functional for other games also, In diablo you can bind all keys to the mouse and play it with 1 hand, for fps it opens up for placing abilities/weapon change on the mouse spreading the work that needs to be done with each hand so your left hand can focus on movment

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@Blem Turns Diablo into a point and click adventure game!

with normal hand placement the 10-12 keys are not useful and 7-9 are a bit awkward, but currently I'm mostly playing Warframe where you have abilities on 1-4 making it a very nice mouse for it

@YiJiang'sEvilClone yea, especially when you go to Whimsyshire

9:24 AM

@fredley no.

@Blem It doesn't matter. It's a seventeen button mouse.

There's no explanation for that.

17? ZOMG

I only use about 9 of them most of the time

That's...a bit much for stuff like Battlefield 3

when i played wow i used 12-15

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9:29 AM

@tombull89 that was my point, but I would sugest getting a mouse with 4-8 buttons on the side for nearly any game

My mouse, CMStorm Sentinel Advance

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Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Oooo, are we uploading pictures of our mice again?

The side thing is for grip and is not a button

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This is a standard Dell OEM mouse with three buttons and one mouse wheel.

9:32 AM

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@YiJiang'sEvilClone exactly what I've got (except for brand etc.)

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It's not ergonomic, doesn't have flashing lights, and feels kind of crappy, but it works

It's also "free", for some value of free. And that's the most important part

@YiJiang'sEvilClone My mouse ergonomics all over your mouse

23 mins ago, by tombull89

Hello Bridge. I'm after a new keyboard/mouse set for use with my gaming desktop. My Logitech MK250 set is no longer quite cutting it. Any suggestions? Ideally under £120-150 at very max for both.

The only complaint I have with my mouse is that it's kinda small for my hand.

9:33 AM

at work we use this

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@tombull89 I make do with a €20 Microsoft keybard and a €20 logitech mice; it depends on what you're looking for

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@Blem How expensive is that?

@badp well, my current one is a wireless mouse/keyboard set. Not the best when you're playing and the battries go. Good build quality, mechanical keys, and a decent amount of macro buttons. And driver software that isn't bloated and doesn't suck.

@tombull89 I can't stand wireless so all of my stuff is wired.

The mouse and keyboard were freebies with something else I bought.

9:39 AM

@YiJiang'sEvilClone cant find it in danish stores, the older version is $45

or maybe this is the older version and that is why i cant find it

on amazon it is $140 O_o

Also I have an old one:

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@spyder Is that a VGA port? I didn't know mice could use that

@YiJiang'sEvilClone COM

@YiJiang'sEvilClone so young!

@YiJiang'sEvilClone DE-9 connector, RS-232 serial port. Or, simple, COM

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9:47 AM

Well, I know there's that other port which mice connects to, but I don't think I've ever seen one of these before

I have only used 3 keyboards on my home computer since i got my first computer

I wanted to say I only had 3 keyboards, but I got some extra keyboards when i bought new computers

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Just imagine, a long time ago there is no USB :)

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@spyder *gasp* Unpossible!

Another old thing:

The game port is a device port found on IBM PC compatible systems throughout the 1980s and 1990s. It was the traditional connector for joystick input devices until superseded by USB in the 21st century. Originally located on a dedicated expansion card, the game port was later integrated with PC sound cards. History The game port was originally released by IBM in 1981 as a separate expansion card for the first IBM PC. The design allowed for four analog axes and four buttons on one port, allowing two joysticks or four paddles to be connected via a special "Y-splitter" cable. Micros...

DA-15 connector, AFAIK

@spyder Call that a mouse cable? This is a mouse cable:

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@LessPop_MoreFizz A similar level of exciting

10:01 AM

@spyder I was thinking of this one also :)

all these mouse pictures and not a single RAT

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@kalina That monstrosity?

DON'T DISS MY MOUSES

There is a reason why no RAT was posted

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How many mouses do you have?

10:10 AM

obviously because no mouse can compete with the RAT

The question was recomendation for what mouse to get

@YiJiang'sEvilClone I have a RAT7 at work, a RAT7 MMO at home, and a MX500 on my other pc

and why would they, most mouse focus on nice design or usability, not really sure what competition the RAT is in

@Blem unique design, amazing usability, unmatched customisation

Rat? Who says "rat"?

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Mouse and Rat :D

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10:15 AM

@Blem World's most gaudy mouse?

Data Migration completed in production! Even though it's 11.20, I need a drink...

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I suggest coffee

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Yeah, that might be an idea

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Are you actually allowed to drink alcoholic beverages at work?

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Yes. We have a fridge full of beer.

We also have a bell for champagne time.

10:25 AM

I AM BORED EVEN THOUGH I SHOULD BE WORKING

right, I'm bored of game dev tycoon now

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Well that didn't take long

well I have done three full playthroughs

And the award for the lamest comic strip for the month goes to: Dilbert!

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Q: How does the name you give your game affect its success?

I have been doing my third playthrough to find some answers to some of the questions on here, so have been leaving everything with its default name. For example; Game Engine #2 Game #17 etc... During one of my latest game releases, I received the following from one of the magazine reviews; ...

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@GrumpyLazers Unless the game comes with a natural language parser I doubt the name of the game has any actual effect

10:29 AM

@fredley ENVY

@YiJiang'sEvilClone strange you say this, but I never saw those particular review messages until I stopped naming my games

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Probably just a coincidence. How often do you see that now?

twice in two games

even if it's as simple as checking if you changed the name, the question is still valid

and you don't need a natural language parser to determine that

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Curious

DON'T CURIOUS AT ME

oh

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10:31 AM

*stares*

glares

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*puts on goggles*

I forgot how to stop it from parsing markdown and would really like to remember again

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Backslash escape

BACKSLASH ESCAPE?!

how common

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10:34 AM

Would you rather draw a pentagram on your keyboard and do a chant in old English tongue just so that you can escape your messages?

I guess this means I can get back to watching LA Noire play with itself though

@YiJiang'sEvilClone who says I don't already have a pentagram on my keyboard?

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Mmmhmm. Well, I guess you are a witch

I thought that was common knowledge already

I mean.. noooo, I'm not!

I hate when people cant decide what language they want to write code in!
isInBackDatedRegistration() <-- fine all in english
isSkiftAnvendelse() <-- technically ok, in danish with a "is" prefix to comply with standards
isInOverdragOenske() <-- English with danish name for the flow?!? WTF
and all 3 are from the same class >.<

How rude!

*mumbles something in old english*

@Blem gremlins, it's the only possible explanation

10:38 AM

I am going all english, don't know who will take over the project when we no longer have it, they might outsource it to India, better make it easy for them to understand

I would stick to the current convention of randomly switching between languages

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Are you going to update the rest of the code?

who knows what you might break with your new ideas and enthusiasm

@YiJiang'sEvilClone hella no, the project is to big

twitch

what is this game "Remember Me" and is it supposed to be any good?

Personal memories can now be digitised, bought, sold and traded. The last remnants of privacy and intimacy have been swept away in what appears to be a logical progression of the explosive growth of social networks at the beginning of the 21st century. The citizens themselves have accepted this surveillance society in exchange for the comfort only smart technology can provide. This memory economy gives immense power over society to just a handful of people.

Remember Me™ is a 3rd person action adventure where players take on the role of Nilin, a former elite memory hunter with the ability t…

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10:43 AM

oh it's made by capcom

won't be very good then

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Strange, the visuals look a lot like Watch_Dogs

Third person sci-fi action/adventure game

ooh watch dogs

that was the game I was looking forward to this year

Is it still happening?

is what still happening?

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10:46 AM

I see... some stealth gameplay

@kalina Watch Dogs

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Ha, she just crept past a giant 'Wanted' sign of her.

@fredley I haven't heard otherwise, the game looked pretty much functional and complete last time I saw it

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How in the world does nobody in the crowd notice her climbing a wall with a giant poster of her face on it?

@YiJiang'sEvilClone how often do you look at walls?

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10:47 AM

Quite often? I like looking around when I'm walking

I spend more times looking at trees, not walls

@kalina I look at the ground, otherwise I fall over

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@fredley How drunk are you?

@YiJiang'sEvilClone he's an english male in his 20s, they're all alocholics

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10:51 AM

Oh wow, now this is interesting. Memory editing

SIGH

@YiJiang'sEvilClone 0% drunk!

AM I GOING TO END UP BUYING ANOTHER GAME THAT I PLAY FOR 15 HOURS?!

@kalina PLAY MINECRAFT, NEVER PLAY ANOTHER GAME EVER

@fredley seriously though, I will commit suicide long before playing Minecraft

which at the rate of my current SLEEP PATTERN CHANGES is probably next week anyway

10:53 AM

@kalina There's something wrong with the implications for causality in this statement

@kalina You only have yourself, and possibly @OrigamiRobot, to blame for that.

Minecraft: So bad, I'd rather die

@kalina Coming from a recovering WoW player, that's rich.

@fredley I survived WoW, I'm still all here, physically anyway... mentally, I'm not sure I've ever been all there

I have an issue

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The story seems interesting. In that clip she 'remixed' the memory of someone making him believe that he murdered his wife, which sends him into depression and caused him to kill himself

this cheese salad baguette is too stuffed of filling to fit in my mouth

my mouth is not big enough to eat this food

it's a sad day for food everywhere

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10:55 AM

The story is interesting, but the gameplay looks kind of meh. Standard third person action/platforming. The memory remix bit seems like a trial and error puzzle game more than anything else.

inb4 it becomes the accidental game of the year

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It also appears to be entirely linear

EWW LINEAR?

wouldn't expect anything better from capcom anyway

@kalina Knife and fork to dissect food into more manageable chunks?

I suppose rather than looking for new games to play I should play Bioshock

11:01 AM

@kalina ~~Bioshock~~ Minecraft

@fredley but she still can't experience the full breadth of flavours top to bottom

@badp this pretty much

I have removed several layers of cheese

it "kinda" resolved the problem

@fredley I already play one boring open world game

@kalina !boring

@badp Just make the slices fully top-to-bottom, and eat them the other way around so they fit

@fredley mine asteroids... or beat on blocks

hmmm

I will choose mining, at least there are spaceships involved

@kalina Build things

11:04 AM

better than you silly people with square heads, that's for sure

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There should be a new trailer for Watch_Dogs out. Let me see if I can find it

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Q: Understanding the Agent Blowfish random event

At random intervals a hacker by the name "Agent Blowfish" sends you "encrypted" messages. You then have to "decrypt" the message, and the actual message is displayed. It looks like base64, but I'm not positive. Also, what does it actually do if you pay him? Is the "encrypted" message base64, and...

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Tomb Raider 50% off + 20% off coupon = 12 quids on GMG reddit.com/r/GameDeals/comments/1dbxv4/…

meh, already completed tomb raider

@kalina Baldur's Gate

11:26 AM

human resources director for my company

she just said...

"the bigger the toy, the more fun it is"

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I'm not sure what face I pulled but I got laughed at and called perverted

@kalina Protip: always include the quoter in the same message as the quote.

die

@kalina Ha

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@kalina In a fire.

I don't care about starring the other thing, I agree with the sentiment completely.

11:30 AM

@kalina But not the sentiment of starring a message that says "meh, stars"?

no, that's a pointless star that deprives some other far funnier comment from being in the list

OMG KALINA SAID SOMETHING ABOUT STARS: STAR IT

@kalina Wow, I didn't know you cared that much about the content of the stars list

of course, it's far better when it's full of out of context one liners than 10 stars of me going 'meh stars'

somebody is trying to close one of my questions as a dupe due to their lack of reading comprehension...

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Q: What are the effects of overworking or overloading an employee?

During development of larger and more complex games, you get to assign your programmers based on their strengths. The amount of time they spend on their assigned parts of the game is shown as an accumulative number as you can see on the right of this screenshot: Having this number above 100% d...

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Q: How do I stay hidden and undetected while dispatching enemies?

There are occasions where enemies will be oblivious to your presence, and you can kill them stealthily with them noticing. I like doing the the stealth approach whenever possible. A few questions to further this goal: Any tips and tricks on staying hidden? What are efficient ways of killing en...

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Q: Why can't I absorb a dragon soul?

I recently started a new game, including all official DLC, the unofficial skyrim patch, deadly dragons and a couple more mods. Everything went well until I beat Mirmulnir, I didn't get to absorb his soul, he just lies there, busy being dead. All the guards around were hiding/crouching as if I wa...

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Q: Does Blade Mail really returns damage from all sources or are there some skills whose damage it wont return?

Does Blade Mail really returns all damage like in its description, or are there any skills whose damage wont be returned? This is what i want to know: Will it return magical damage from AoE attacks? Will it return damage from DoT spells? Will it return damage from channeled ults like the one of...

11:54 AM

The period of time of kalina being nice is over.

Wrong - "What are the effects of overworking" vs "Does employee speed effect how much work is completed" are two distinctly different questions covering two completely separate mechanics. If you do not know what you're talking about, don't talk. — kalina 3 mins ago

I wish I was asleep :(

@fredley so should we start to look into buying tickets and stuff?

Also I need to know if Kalina attends so I can send the riot gear separately beforehand.

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