The Bridge

Powerlord

5:00 PM

@Wipqozn Well, I'm offended that @RavenDreamer thinks bacon is nonsense. :/

Mana ಠдಠ

bites tongue

Powerlord

However, on a more real, practical note, we'd essentially be opening up a "second class citizen" type of arrangement for certain questions.

Wipqozn

Yeah I don't like the idea of questions we don't deem appropriate for our Q&A format taking up room on the starred list.

The only way I would be for it would be if it only listed one of these questions, at the bottom of the starred list, and it rotated through them.

Mana ಠдಠ

The other thing is that I don't really see any functionality this provides that couldn't be alternatively provided by simply having game-rec and identify-this-game chatrooms.

FallenAngelEyes

@Manaಠдಠ We tried having a game-rec room

There were just too few people in there regularly

Wipqozn

5:07 PM

@FallenAngelEyes It didn't work, did it?

Mana ಠдಠ

@FallenAngelEyes Lack of audience was the problem, I'm guessing.

yeah, okay

FallenAngelEyes

so it made the chance that people got their question answered even lower

So now we steer them to here

Mana ಠдಠ

personally I think that all this crap belongs on Reddit or something similar. There is already r/game-rec but it's very low-activity, which makes me wonder if someone should advertise it on r/gaming.

Wipqozn

I think they should just ask them in here, and if they don't get any attention just come back later and ask again.

@Manaಠдಠ I like that idea.

Does gaming have it's own reddit feed? or whatever it's called (doesn't use reddit)

FallenAngelEyes

@Manaಠдಠ I always thought it seemed kind of weird to steer them outside our site.

@Wipqozn subreddit

And I don't think so, we want questions asked here, not there.

Wipqozn

5:10 PM

@FallenAngelEyes thanks

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn Well, yes. /r/gamerec is ours.

user30

ugh, another 380mb patch

Wipqozn

@ArdaXi oh, was unaware that was ours.

@FallenAngelEyes maybe SE should incorporate it's own feed system similar to reddit so they stay on the site

Mana ಠдಠ

@Wipqozn I'm not sure what you mean by feed system similar to Reddit.

Powerlord

@ThomasMcDonald For what?

Mana ಠдಠ

5:16 PM

@FallenAngelEyes So like...part of the reason that a game-rec SE site proper didn't get launched was because the r/game-rec subreddit was used to testdrive the idea. r/game-rec basically had no activity so the game-rec SE site was killed.

Wipqozn

@Manaಠдಠ just something similar to how reddit works. A main feed, with questions, and when you click on one it opens up to discussion on it.

Brant

IMO, gamerec.SE would have tanked anyway

3

Wipqozn

Actually I take that back. I don't like that idea.

Mana ಠдಠ

Isn't that basically how questions work as they are though, through comments?

Brant

I'm disliking ITG more and more as time goes on.

user30

5:18 PM

@Powerlord I've been trying to play GT5 since 3:50. There was a PS3 update and then 5 GT5 updates to download.

user30

In fairness I've not played on the PS3 since about January

Powerlord

@ThomasMcDonald Well, yeah, of course there'd be a PS3 update then. I assume you heard about how PSN was down for all of May?

Well, except possibly a few days at the beginning and end of the month.

Mana ಠдಠ

@Brant I agree.

user30

@Powerlord Yeah, I was well aware, and made quite a few comments on it. Just not felt the need to play on it at all

Mana ಠдಠ

I also think that given all the points that have been made against it and the fact that we have a lot of people who don't like it that it should probably be given a swift death. But I guess we'll have to wait until after the mod elections for that.

Hey, cool, the search bar does a fwooshy thing now!

user30

5:27 PM

user30

good times

badp

@ThomasMcDonald norepro

user30

@badp focus search, ctrl-tab to next tab, shift-ctrl-tab back, search goes uh-oh

Mana ಠдಠ

@ThomasMcDonald For me it makes the user stuff invisiblargh.

badp

@ThomasMcDonald nope

user30

5:28 PM

@badp yep

Mana ಠдಠ

@Thomas Still can't reproduce. Post a bug about it on meta.

badp

Oh goddammit

Mana ಠдಠ

Oh, reproduced.

badp

ONE ASPLOSION and my run is ruined

Grace Note

@ThomasMcDonald No repro

Powerlord

5:30 PM

@badp Are you still playing HammerFight, or is it something else now?

user30

It only seems to happen when cycling backwards through tabs

badp

Hammerfight

Powerlord

Anyway, I started playing Metroid Prime 2 again yesterday. I just entered Dark Aether for the first (well, second if you count the cutscene) time.

Grace Note

It has to re-expand the search bar, but unless something's breaking then the rest of the header vanishes properly.

badp

Okay, I reproduced when cycling really quickly

@GraceNote If you hold ctrl-tab you'll get it.

user30

5:31 PM

humm. I wonder why that happens

Mana ಠдಠ

or ctrl-tab and then quickly ctrl-shift-tab

Grace Note

@badp Nope, no manner of rapidity is working.

Mana ಠдಠ

hmm

Lazers

0

Q: How do retainers work in shogun 2 multiplayer?

How do retainers work exactly in shogun 2 multiplayer? I see that some experienced players are having only one retainer (or maybe I see only one), usually it is "untrained fugu cook" (-2 to all melee attack). Does the number of retainers influence the price of the general or something else?

Mana ಠдಠ

okay this needs a meta post

maybe meta.so though

yeah, repro on all sites.

user30

5:33 PM

yeah, I can repro across all sites

Mana ಠдಠ

@Thomas Wanna make the post about it since you already have a screenshot uploaded?

Grace Note

Hm. Maybe my ancient FireFox app is too old to suffer from this issue.

user30

Nah, go ahead @man.

Mana ಠдಠ

:(

badp

WHY U NO DIE WITH NO ASPLOSION

user30

5:35 PM

or whatever

Powerlord

@GraceNote They actually pushed Firefox 5 to my work computer the other day. I launch Firefox and it's like "oh hai, this addon doesn't work anymore, kthx"

user30

I have time to sort it

Grace Note

@Powerlord Ouchu

Powerlord

Granted, it was the dumb Microsoft addon for installing .NET programs via it, so no big loss.

Oh, I hope this quote doesn't offend anyone... it's about the whole EA versus Steam thing currently playing out, claiming that Steam is too controlling.

> In other news, Satan claims God is just trying to control your life and you should just eat the apple.

user30

@mana @bad What browsers are you two both on?

badp

5:37 PM

Chrome 14.0.835.18

although it might be a bit outdated

user30

Jeff's gonna hate that

Mana ಠдಠ

@ThomasMcDonald Oh, are you making the post? FF5.0

user30

Can do

user30

Humm, can't repro it in safari

user30

Oh, it doesn't even seem to be keyboard related

Mana ಠдಠ

5:41 PM

yeah, mouse repro

(heh)

user30

Now it's doing it every time rather than sporadically

user30

What do I be missing?

Mana ಠдಠ

shrug Seems good to me man. I say submit it.

Lazers

1

Q: How do I start my own faction in Mount&Blade?

I figured out how to be a vassal to another king and how to help claimants, but how do I create my own faction to take over the world?

mount-and-blade

Powerlord

5:50 PM

So, my PC is waiting for me at the FedEx store in Okemos, MI. Now I just hope the weight they lift is wrong (it's listed as weighing 70 lbs)

Mana ಠдಠ

@Lazers Please say it's possible. I didn't even think about starting my own faction but I'm hoping it's a thing I can do.

Arda Xi

I love the way John Patrick Lowrie constantly refers to him and Ellen as "GLaDOS and the Sniper" on Twitter.

2

GLaDOS and The Sniper will be attending a wedding today of two good friends. Whidbey Island, here we come!

Tweeted by johnpatricklowr on August 8, 2011 at 5:49 PM

sjohnston

@ArdaXi Maybe everyone else refers to them as such on Twitter and he just decided to go with it

badp

Mission begins in 2 hours.

I recalculated and got 1 rep

Arda Xi

@badp Err?

You've got 1 hour. Solve it.

Mana ಠдಠ

6:04 PM

Seek a way out! dramatic piano slamming

badp

I found a way out!

Mana ಠдಠ

YOU FOUND IT! uplifting tone

Fabian

I just noticed I must be writing shitty titles, every title of my top 10 questions with the most views has been edited by CHAOS ;-)

Powerlord

@Manaಠдಠ Oh, looks like we've entered into another room.

Seek a way out! dramatic piano slamming

Grace Note

I'm missing something, aren't I?

Wipqozn

6:10 PM

@Fabian perhaps you should have a duel to the death with brett white

badp

@GraceNote You're not alone

Mana ಠдಠ

It's okay, Fabio. I had a guy totally slam me for not putting "in Chantelise" at the end of one of my question titles.

Fabian

Skimming over my questions, I think he edited half my questions

Powerlord

999: Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors

is an adventure game developed by Chunsoft and published in Japan by Spike on December 10, 2009, and in North America by Aksys Games on November 16, 2010. The game's design team was led by Kotaro Uchikoshi, who is also the writer of the acclaimed visual novel Ever 17: The Out of Infinity. Nine people have been abducted by a mysterious kidnapper who calls themself "Zero." They find themselves on a ship— possibly a replica of the RMS Titanic— and are told that they have nine hours to escape before the ship sinks beneath the waves. Zero is running the "Nonary Game" - a game "...

Grace Note

@Manaಠдಠ In his defense, "How do I defeat the final boss?" without any qualifier is... nyarg

@Powerlord Oh, that game

Mana ಠдಠ

6:11 PM

NO, DON'T READ THAT ARTICLE OH MAN

so many spoilers :(

Grace Note

It's like titling your question "Regex problem".

Wipqozn

@Powerlord I think I'll buy that online, since it's about the only way to find it

badp

@Fabian I changed the title of the question announcing Chaos changing all our question titles and I'm now happy with that being my revenge.

Powerlord

@GraceNote Mana referenced it, and in most of the game, you'll have two "Find a way out!" sequences in a row.

Grace Note

Ahha

Thanks, @Powerlord

Powerlord

6:12 PM

Notice I said most of the time. Sometimes you don't. ;)

Mana ಠдಠ

@Grace Oh man, I thought we prided ourselves on not putting "in <game>" at the end of our titles.

Powerlord

And you won't know until it happens!

@Wipqozn Anyway, I bought it from Amazon.

badp

Brett got 5 edits out of me.

Fabian

It's very obvious that he sorted by views, so my high views questins got the most attention

Wipqozn

@Powerlord Yeah that's where I was thinking of buying it from

Powerlord

6:13 PM

That was a while ago. I think they had it as part of their buy two, get $x off (I can't remember what X was) sales.

Grace Note

@Manaಠдಠ We prided ourselves in not doing "<game>: <question>" as titles

Fabian

@badp 37 for me

badp

Although he just changed all my "How to"s to "How do I"s :(

Mana ಠдಠ

@GraceNote fair enough

Brant

Hmm, better check my own question titles before CHAOS gets to them first.

badp

6:14 PM

and he removed the name of the achievement from a title asking how to get that achievement :/

Brant

Just re-edit it then. I've done it at least once.

Mana ಠдಠ

@badp Coincidentally, is this the one that I was crying foul (language) over?

Wipqozn

All their changes are based around increasing google hits, right?

badp

@Manaಠдಠ No.

@Wipqozn Yea.

Grace Note

@Wipqozn That, and being better sentences in general

Mana ಠдಠ

6:16 PM

He just wants to let your sentences be the best they can!

Wipqozn

@Manaಠдಠ he's a hero really

Powerlord

Speaking of 999, I haven't visited the Ace Attorney Investigations 2 thread on Capcom's board this week to see how they still haven't announced anything.

Fabian

@Wipqozn I don't think it's SEO, my edited questions already had a lot of views from Google

Brant

SEO plays into it, but in addition it just looks better when the question title is a complete sentence instead of a bunch of random keywords strung together.

Grace Note

@Fabian The primary target of the CHAOS team was the top 1000 questions by views, as it were

Lazers

6:26 PM

0

Q: Bangers Clan strategy

I am playing Urban-Rivals for a while and currently I am on level 14. I started with Bangers and Freeks clans and I bought two more Bangers cards. I find playing with Bangers against clans Jungo or Montana where they have +life and -attack clan bonuses. Is it wise to proceed playing with Bangers ...

urban-rivals

0

Q: Minecraft crashes after logging in: A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment

Minecraft crashes after I click "Login" at the Minecraft Launcher Window. The credentials are valid, and minecraft.net and notch are up because I have tried to launch minecraft on another computer and it works. Things that I have tried and haven't worked: Reinstalled java Installed Java SE, J...

minecraft hardware

Fabian

@GraceNote That's pretty much every question above 1k views, and that is also where the edits stop in my profile. Though he didn't edit "Khaaaaaaaan" ;-)

Grace Note

@Fabian Were the point, as it were

user30

6:40 PM

4 hours later, everything has finished updating.

user30

What a trek.

Arda Xi

Did Braid have some kind of big upgrade or something?

Last time I played it it did not have that brown dinosaur.

Or an epilogue.

Mana ಠдಠ

Any ideas for a good name of a dropbox competitor?

My suggestion was feed.me

Powerlord

@Manaಠдಠ ...MySpace? ;)

Mana ಠдಠ

@Powerlord That's a dumb name, it'll never catch on.

Powerlord

6:45 PM

So, did elections start yet?

Arda Xi

@Manaಠдಠ Wait... why would we want yet another dropbox competitor?

@Powerlord T-15M

Mana ಠдಠ

@Arda shrug ask my brother since he's asking me

Arda Xi

@Manaಠдಠ How should I? You ask your brother.

Mana ಠдಠ

@Arda no, YOU ask my brother.

Arda Xi

How?

Powerlord

6:46 PM

@ManasBrother: Why?

Mana ಠдಠ

@Arda good question, I just wanted to say no u

Grace Note

@ArdaXi ...plus one hour

Arda Xi

Oh, hm.

Right, CET is +2 in the summer.

I blame @badp for saying it was in 12 hours at 9 am.

badp

49 mins ago, by badp

Mission begins in 2 hours.

Arda Xi

@badp Yeah, so?

Mana ಠдಠ

6:51 PM

YES, I RESET MY PASSWORD

I'm so good at this internet thing.

Arda Xi

12 hours ago, by badp

In other news, mission begins in 12 hours.

user30

@Manaಠдಠ GOOD JOB EVERYONE

badp

@ArdaXi So I corrected myself.

Arda Xi

badp

Obviously 12 hours - 12 hours = 0 hours and many minutes

at least according to Stack Exchange.

GnomeSlice ツ

6:55 PM

How do I tag it-belongs-in-an-ancient-ruin ?

It's too long...

Grace Note

That's because it belongs in a museum!

GnomeSlice ツ

@GraceNote Ah, you're familiar with this one?

It Belongs in an Ancient Ruin

Grace Note

No, I'm just familiar with Indiana Jones.

Powerlord

@GnomeSliceツ That belongs in a museum!

GnomeSlice ツ

Aha. Well, give the game a shot, and what you just said will be even funnier.

But really, how do I tag this?

Grace Note

6:57 PM

Meta post.

GnomeSlice ツ

I don't really have time for that.

Grace Note

It's very basic. Just say "I need to tag a game with this name, but the full tag is 29 characters long. How can we condense it?"

GnomeSlice ツ

I meant I have to go shortly, but all right. =]

Grace Note

Yeah. This won't take long and you can just figure the answer when you return ♪

Powerlord

The obvious answer is synecdoche.

Grace Note

6:59 PM

Wow. That's a word I haven't heard in a long time.

GnomeSlice ツ

0

Q: How do I tag 'It Belongs in an Ancient Ruin'?

The tag it-belongs-in-an-ancient-ruin is too long to use. How am I going to tag this game?

discussion tags

Powerlord

@GraceNote I could have said metonymy instead.

Grace Note

@Powerlord Then I'd have to replace "in a long time" with "ever"

Powerlord

Metonymy

Metonymy ( ) is a figure of speech used in rhetoric in which a thing or concept is not called by its own name, but by the name of something intimately associated with that thing or concept. For instance, "Hollywood" is used as used as a metonym (an instance of metonymy) for American Cinema, because of the fame and cultural identity of Hollywood, California as the historical center of movie studios and movie stars. Another example is "Westminster," which is used as a metonym for the Parliament of the United Kingdom, because it is located there. The words "metonymy" and "metonym" come from...

Grace Note

Ah.

That's a useful word to know

Powerlord

7:01 PM

It's weird the things you learn from books of fiction.

AMD makes RAM now. Strangely, under the Radeon brand name.

Mana ಠдಠ

Man, should I write my moderator nomination now or a blog post on Chantelise...so many choices.

Powerlord

@Manaಠдಠ Blog post on your moderator nomination!

Mana ಠдಠ

Oh man, that's like the ultimate form of ego stroking. I like it.

Arda Xi

@Manaಠдಠ Moderator nomination on chandeliers!

Mana ಠдಠ

@Arda You called it Chantelise!!

Arda Xi

7:08 PM

Oh, sorry.

Anyway, back to Braid.

Lazers

0

Q: How do I tag 'It Belongs in an Ancient Ruin'?

The tag it-belongs-in-an-ancient-ruin is too long to use, at 29 characters. How am I going to tag this game?

discussion tags

Powerlord

What's the tag length limit again?

Grace Note

25

Powerlord

itbelongsinanancientruin. 24 characters, plus it's also their domain name missing the .com

Not that nice looking, but the game name is still completely there.

Lazers

0

Q: For Clap Trap DLC collection achievements do I have to get them on one playthrough?

I'm trying to get the following achievements: The Lubricator Bobble-Trap It's so realistic What a party! It is taking forever to get some of these. Do I have to do this with in one playthrough? What about if I collect these in multiple playthroughs but with the same character? Is it cumula...

achievements borderlands borderlands-dlc

Grace Note

7:18 PM

Oh right, you can read Meta posts but you can't post because you can't login because you need to log into the main site first.

Powerlord

@GraceNote Yup.

@GraceNote Besides, I can read the summaries posted to this chat regardless.

Grace Note

I would've suggested putting that tag suggestion as an answer, is all

sjohnston

@GraceNote I find that situation immensely annoying

Powerlord

Well, at least they haven't figured out that chat.stackexchange.com should be blocked. ;)

sjohnston

yeah, same here

I think it will stay that way, since other chats on the same domain pertain to work-related topics

Kevin Y

7:25 PM

@ArdaXi Must just be me then. :/

Arda Xi

You didn't iron it did you?

badp

Goddammit

Kevin Y

Nope.

Powerlord

I do find it amusing that gaming.stackexchange.com is blocked, but meta.gaming.stackexchange.com isn't.

Kevin Y

Gogo 4 level domain name.

Arda Xi

7:26 PM

@badp Goddamnwhat?

badp

During the final mission in Baghdad in AWE, I lost a crawler by a tenth of second, and then I was left with $120

sjohnston

Mine didn't wash out, but the coins/badges were already a bit worn-looking upon arrival and looked slightly worse after washing.

badp

A new crawler would've costed $125, but the time limit pervented me from circling again

Arda Xi

They're still fine here..

Kevin Y

@sjohnston Interesting.

sjohnston

7:28 PM

ooo, take a tour of Windows XP? Yes, please!

badp

Mission begins in 30 minutes. (and a few seconds.)

user30

woo, tf2, I've missed you

badp

@ThomasMcDonald Damn you.

Powerlord

@ThomasMcDonald Remember, TF2 loves you.

badp

So still no strange engie crates yes?

Powerlord

7:31 PM

Friendship detected!

Friendship ends in 10 seconds!

Kevin Y

Strange Wrangler would be awesome.

Powerlord

@badp Nope, we're still on Scout, Spy, whatever the third one was.

user30

I've not played for like a fortnight I think.

badp

Pyro?

user30

pyro?

Powerlord

7:32 PM

Yeah, Pyro.

hugs Strange Flaregun

Kevin Y

Grr ^

Powerlord

I was hoping for Strange Axtinguisher, but since they didn't put that in, I'll keep my Postal Pummeler equipped.

badp

I did have access to an unsecured wifi connection, but I decided to hold it for when the crate was out.

Obviously now the rest of my family, and neighbourhood, abused the shit out of it, and now it's WPA2ed.

Powerlord

Remember, the drop time only carries over one week.

user30

I idled on one account, I think my main

user30

7:35 PM

Got a Scotch Bonnet(?)

badp

This is all part of this elaborate machination by the universe to prevent me from getting an engie crate

Powerlord

@ThomasMcDonald Sounds like the right name.

Kevin Y

I've never, ever, gotten a hat drop. Ever.

badp

I got one - the party crown one for the scout.

Powerlord

@badp More like Valve is too lazy to make new Engy weapons, so they have to choose 4 out of 9 weapons to make Strange.

user30

7:36 PM

and a ton of weapons

Kevin Y

I have the Ghastly Gibbous, and that's all.

Powerlord

(9 is guesstimating)

user30

strange wrenches are in the schema, I can't remember what others

Powerlord

I want a Strange Jag. Strange Frontier Justice wouldn't be bad to have. Strange Gunslinger is almost useless.

Strange Shotgun already exists... and I have a Menacing one, iirc.

Oh figures, DNS went down here.

badp

@ThomasMcDonald woo.

Question is, will they count sentry and teleport kills.

Kevin Y

7:39 PM

I hope they'll count Sentry kills.

Then I'd hope for a Strange Gunslinger.

(Mini-Sentries are FTW)

Powerlord

I really doubt they'd count sentry kills.

badp

@Powerlord THEN I WANT STRANGE PDAs.

user30

I don't play Engineer anyway

Kevin Y

I want a STRANGE ELECTRO-SAPPER. /sarcasm

user30

therefore not bothered

Powerlord

7:40 PM

@badp There's no PDA slot for Engineer. The only replacement PDA goes in the Misc slot instead.

Also, Valve, where's my second Misc slot?

badp

@KevinY They'd be stuck at 0, because they score destructions, not kills.</nitpicking>

Powerlord

@KevinY There's no PDA slot for Spy either, only PDA2. :P

PDA2 = cloaking devices.

user30

I love playing scoot

Powerlord

I need to do some metal crafting and clean up my inventory.

user30

I'm all out of metal. I should buy some keys.

user30

7:44 PM

have to see what's going on SOP later

Arda Xi

58 mins ago, by Arda Xi

@Powerlord T-15M

badp

I assume people counting down already have written down their nominations? :P

user30

Yeah, I have

Powerlord

Friends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your ears!

user30

all 0 words of it

Powerlord

7:48 PM

Mine will be two words: "Vote Goat"

badp

Too short, both of them.

You should pad them with unicode smileys.

Powerlord

"Vote Arda, he's terrible" -- There, now it's up to 4.

user30

◔_◔ vote me t(ツ)_/¯

Powerlord

A vote for Powerlord is a vote for bacon! Wait, that means I definitely wouldn't get @RavenDreamer's vote.

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