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dlu
12:00 AM
@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 Cool! I'd have thought you'd been wrenching all your life. What did you work on? I spent five years at Tektronix in the "small systems group" (when small meant that it would fit in a small truck and didn't have to be in a climate controlled room) and later eight years at BSDi trying to make Berkeley UNIX into a viable commercial entity, and another two at Wind River after we got acquired.
 
12:13 AM
@dlu ah BSD. I remember updating our VAX. :-)
 
12:29 AM
@dlu - I worked for Lockheed Martin for about three years. There I worked on VAX, SGI, and Sun servers, SGI and NetApps RAID. Then, as an independent contractor (under Lockheed Martin), worked on the same equipment for about five more years.
 
dlu
@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 Mid '80s perhaps?
 
Late 90's/early 2000's
I worked the Y2K rollover for our equipment. That was wonderful ...
In fact, I went to work in August 99 for LM
 
dlu
@BobCross Yep, Vaxen were what we meant by "small systems," CDC made the "large systems" at Tek, not sure if IBM had a presence at all.
 
Just when the Y2K was just rolling into full swing.
 
dlu
@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 Those were interesting times, we put a lot of time into scouring our system for assumptions about the date. IIRC there were very few of them. Actually I think it was very cool that so much code survived from times when it seemed reasonable to assume that 2000 wouldn't happen within the lifetime of the code.
 
12:36 AM
Yes ... it was a BIG ball of nothing in the end, lol.
Luckily for me, I didn't take on the Software Engineer duties until later in 2000, so I didn't have to worry about too much of it, lol.
 
dlu
@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 Thank goodness really. It could have been very interesting… I suspect in the COBOL world the 31st of December 1999 was a very interesting night.
 
I think we were running fortran stuff on our VAX IIRC
I had to learn on the fly how to program it for other reasons once I took over as the SWE
Not that I could tell you the first thing about it now!
 
dlu
@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 If you're looking to get back into computers there is a huge shortage of people to teach CS at the high school level. That's what I'm doing now and I love it, really the best job I've had. I suspect that with your knowledge of cars you could do some very cool stuff.
@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 It's amazing to me how much comes back to me when I have to go back to work on something I haven't touched in years…
 
I'm doing computer stuff, just not being a SysAd anymore ... I'd love to go back to doing that.
I like scripting and solving issues on the systems. A lot of it was really intuitive to me, so was also fun.
Just been out of it way too long ... I think the last OS I worked on was Solaris 8 ... way past ripe, lol.
 
dlu
@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 Yes, that was a while ago :-) I think the "pull date" has past, although I was in my district tech office and they had a bunch of Grape Purple iMacs (with CRTs!) that they had just pulled out, so you never know…
 
12:48 AM
ROFL. I have an Octane and an O2 server downstairs ... Ihaven't fired either of them up in about 9 years ... Got a set of IRIX OS software sitting on the shelf here for them ... great play toys, but never really did anything with them.
 
dlu
@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 Wow! You need to open a computer museum! If you're ever near Seattle, you should check out the Living Computer Museum. They have a bunch of old machines (pretty much everything I ever worked on) running: a PDP-8, a PDP-10 (maybe a 20 too), an 11, a Vax – a real stroll down memory lane. Never worked on a Sun, Tek thought they were competitors (maybe, but I don't think we worried them)
 
LOL! Yes, quite a stroll it would be.
I'm headed to bed. I hope you have a great evening.
 
 
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2:38 AM
@dlu our PDP 8 with its paper tape machine.... ;-)
 
 
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dlu
4:26 AM
@BobCross A reader or a punch? If it's a punch I'm jealous!
@SteveRacer, 2002tii? Sweet!
 
 
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8:02 AM
@BobCross I'm interested in your answer. Here's a question: how did you decide that accelerating slowly to get to cruising speed is more fuel efficient that accelerating quickly?
 
 
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10:15 AM
@dlu And on this side of the pond we've got the National Museum of Computing at Bletchley Park - I went there on the opening day and spent ages programming an Elliot 803 - which was obsolete 20 years before I was born... :)
 
 
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1:01 PM
@NickC quite a few years ago, in one of my mid level undergrad courses, we wrote an emulator for the PDP8 (variable length opcodes!) and then had to write programs for that. Our grade was based on the functionality of that code. Hard but super nerdy fun!
 
 
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dlu
3:08 PM
@NickC I would love to visit Bletchley Park, if I ever get back to the UK that is high on my list.
@BobCross The 8 is one of my favorite machines, at least in part because it was so easy to understand – or maybe I should say because it is so easy to understand now. At the time I remember it being a bit of a struggle...
 
@dlu oh sure, I agree with you. It's sort of like thinking back to high school and thinking "I have no time to get my homework done!!" ... video games video games ...
 
3:33 PM
@dlu The Colossus is by far the best thing there - no only the first ever programmable computer, but also the replica was built from scratch from just memories and a few scraps of diagrams and photos. I met the guy who built it (the replica) once - alas he is no longer with us...
 
Has anyone read this fantastic advert description yet? ebay.co.uk/itm/…
 
dlu
3:51 PM
@NickC That would be worth seeing! Heck, that would be worth organizing a trip some summer with some of my students. So cool that they could recreate it and that you got to talk with one of the creators. I hope others are carrying on for him.
 
 
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7:42 PM
What's worse than other people using the keyboards that I explicitly forbade them to type code on? Using then to type multicast networking code. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. An eternal mystery! 🔨🔨🔨🔨
 
7:55 PM
@SteveMatthews - That's pretty funny!
@BobCross - Are you trying to say your ban hammer carries no weight? Now that's sad.
 
8:15 PM
@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 you're not kidding.
Fortunately I have years of experience in diagnosing pathological insanity and gruesome maladies that are inflicted upon defenseless computers by horrible madmen.
;-)
because a smiley makes insults okay ...
 
9:11 PM
@dlu regarding your edit, can't timing belts be exposed to oil?
 
9:53 PM
@BobCross - Those fiends!
@Zaid - I believe in most cases, exposure to oil will degrade timing belts, as well as make them more susceptible to slippage. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of belts run dry (or are supposed to be dry).
 
10:11 PM
@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 I don't know why I have this image of an oily timing belt emblazoned in memory.
 
Probably because there was a leaky cam seal?
Or a front main seal?
 
Could be. I agree that it makes little sense to have it exposed to oil. Oh well
 
I mean, if you look at any Honda engine, there are covers, but they aren't sealed covers ... just dust covers. Should provide for a dry belt.
 
How are ya doing, @Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2?
 
I'm good brother, and you?
I've got my Calc class tonight ... argh.
 
10:18 PM
Doing great, thanks. Just haven't had much access to the computer
 
I'll just be happy if I pass it.
 
Lol, I'm pretty sure you will
 
Unfortunately, it seems I always have access to a computer.
 
The worst of it is "Integration By Parts"
Once you have that dialled in, you're all set
 
@Zaid I don't know, mano ... the biggest problem I'm having with the class is I don't understand when to use what. Doing the work isn't usually a problem. I mean I get the math.
 
10:20 PM
Yes, it can be challenging to identify the right tool
Practice makes perfect, as my grandfather would say
 
It isn't a problem as long as I understand which tool to use, I'm set ... getting there seems to be 90% of the battle, though, lol.
 
Differentiation is a doddle. Integration can be tricky at times
 
Yah I don't know how much we'll get into anything too substantial. This is a truncated course to give us the math we "might" need for the MSE classes.
I'm almost tempted to bust out another Diet Dew ... the guy teaching the course is very monotone.
We're supposed to prep for the mid-term tonight.
 
I'm seeing a lot of questions and answers referring to brakes as "breaks". Would this affect searchability?
Or am I just being OCD?
 
I think it might ... but I don't know if SE uses the tags for metadata and its search engines.
I think as long as it's tagged correctly, it should be okay. But, I hate that as well.
 
10:54 PM
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11:04 PM
@Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2 my son wants to sit next to me on the train tomorrow because he's working on his precalculus summer work. So timely!
 
Yah, don't come knocking on my door! I won't have answers for him :o)
 

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