Minecraft Talk

Sebie

1:17 AM

Any idea's for this thread other then what I have mentioned? gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/190032/…

user43095

Most people here don't do Bukkit, they do Forge.

Sebie

That a RT to me?

user43095

1:33 AM

RT?

Sebie

Reply to

user43095

1:49 AM

Yeah. We mostly do Forge stuff in here. But you can bounty the question if you want it to be noticed more.

Sebie

Gah, I don't know about the bounty.

user43095

On your question, under the comments, there should be an orange button called "start a bounty"

user43095

Unless you don't have enough rep.

Sebie

Oh, I know how to start it and where to find it. Just unsure if I should do it.

user43095

Is finding the answer to that question important to you?

Sebie

2:00 AM

Well I feel a responsibility to atleast try to because I replied in the comments..

user43095

It's okay if you don't know the answer.

Sebie

And even if I just leave it as is?

user43095

You don't have a lot of rep to begin with, so I'd suggest just leaving it alone. Someone more knowledgeable will come along and answer it.

Sebie

Ok, and thanks for talking it through with me. (Btw the Steam profile link on your profile leads to a 404, not found.)

user43095

Oh yeah, it's because I changed usernames.

user43095

2:05 AM

Do you play modded Minecraft?

Sebie

Cool just wanted to let you know.

Well there was a time when I played Minecraft a lot.

Around 1.4.2 I think (before all the updates with horses and stuff).

user43095

We play FTB－ｂａｓｅｄ packs ａｎｄ　will be moving to a brand-new world in a couple of days. So if you want to play, that might be the time to join (so that you're not overwhelmed).

Sebie

But when these new updates came out I got bored created a steam account and yeah..

user43095

Well we have automated and shiny and fun things.

user43095

For an example you'd want to look up an episode of Direwolf20's Let's Play or something similar.

Sebie

2:09 AM

Maybe

user43095

user43095

Is this immoral?

Unionhawk

Why are you asking @Kevin that?

You know full well he's going to say "No, I built a chicken farm that hatches a billion eggs per second and kills everyone"

user43095

Because Kevin would say no because progress.

user43095

Actually I don't think he did that. @Kevin plz confirm.

Unionhawk

2:11 AM

"I rigged up my matter fabricator to create chickens and then used fire to kill them"

Sebie

Just wondering do you know where is the server hosted? US?

user43095

New York

user43095

Although I'm not sure where @KevinvanderVelden's going to host it.

Unionhawk

This server is US, I think. I think the DW20 server upcoming will be EU

So it'll be interesting for me

Sebie

Well, I am based in AUS so idk

Unionhawk

2:13 AM

But it's fine. The Monster server was fine for me, so...

user43095

Oh no a EU based server.

Unionhawk

And I think that was hosted in france

or something

Sebie

Will try anyway

mc.echoreply.us ?

user43095

echoreply is @TimPost's website.

Unionhawk

Whitelisted, also I think it's down for the next several days.

And that's where the server info is, yes

forgot about that

user43095

2:14 AM

@Unionhawk I'm currently on, it will be down starting ~8 days from now.

Unionhawk

Oh. Well then.

Duh

I'm an idiot

Great job @Uni

He posted a screenshot of course he's on

Sebie

Hehe

Unionhawk

I might just go and steal all of @Kevin's things, just to get to the "fly around and admire the things" stage

user43095

Would blowing up two full sized HP boilers be more fun than TNT?

Sebie

@JeffreyLin you got a link to the modpack?

Unionhawk

2:16 AM

I'm sure the man has a spare nether star, probably

Wait, I have to update mods

eh screw it

user43095

@Unionhawk Actually he doesn't. He complained about not having nether stars.

user43095

But if you go on now I'll let you borrow mine.

Unionhawk

WELL THEN

Nah, I've got to update mods

shrug

user43095

Another day then,

Unionhawk

I forgot that everyone who plays modded is too afraid to fight the Wither.

user43095

2:17 AM

He doesn't have skulls.

Unionhawk

Oh yeah, right, no MFR etc

that's forgivable

I guess

Wait, no MFR is in I thought

user43095

And I accidentally spawned three Withers in the overworld back in Monster.

user43095

No MFR

user43095

@Tim never got to it.

Unionhawk

Oh

Sebie

2:18 AM

Just wondering, roughly ~ how many mods are in the modpack?

Unionhawk

Well

user43095

@Sebie Currently?

Unionhawk

Not too many. I think it's in the 60s range?

Sebie

yeah?

user43095

Exactly 44.

Unionhawk

2:18 AM

Oh, well then

Shows you how habitually wrong I am

user43095

-1 or 2 if you decide to take out NEI and whatnot.

user43095

Actually 43 because I have WAILA.

user43095

Dire's has quite a bit though.

user43095

I remember the Monster pack was ~160.

Sebie

Wew

Unionhawk

2:19 AM

At least yeah

user43095

Well some of them are passive ex walled city generator

Unionhawk

Monster was designed to basically be "how many mods can we shove into one pack"

Sebie

Hehe

user43095

I don't think anyone uses Glowstone Wire in the current pack.

user43095

Bibliocraft is only prettiness.

Unionhawk

2:20 AM

@JeffreyLin and enchanting

user43095

@Unionhawk Nobody enchants things when they have a nanosaber and Quantum. HAYO!

Unionhawk

Well, quantum is stupid expensive

Sebie

If I was to join I would ping the server first because to download the modpack and to find out I was getting 500 ping that would be bad ;-;

user43095

Looking at NEI, Buildcraft is split into four mods or something.

user43095

It is, I'd prefer MMPS.

Unionhawk

2:21 AM

I'll be using Redstone Arsenal as soon as DW20 server goes live

well, not "as soon as", but

user43095

@Sebie You can do that in vanilla. Add mc.echoreply.us to your servers list and then you can see the ping.

user43095

You just can't connect.

user43095

@Unionhawk Is RA by KingLemming?

Sebie

Ok,

Unionhawk

@JeffreyLin I think it's the COFH team

Yeah, TeamCOFH (developers of Thermal Expansion)

user43095

2:24 AM

I feel like EnderIO kinda copied ThermalExpansion and added some more stuff, making it slightly unneeded.

Unionhawk

Thermal Expansion is still great I'm not a huge fan of the design of EnderIO

user43095

I like how you can bundle different wires together, but that's kinda confusing.

Unionhawk

Just in general

Sebie

Ping statistics for 216.187.117.121
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 7, Lost = 3 (30% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milliseconds:
Minimum = 222, Maximum = 235, Average = 225

Gah

Unionhawk

200 ping isn't the worst ever, 30% packet loss is pretty bad

That's roughly what I'd run with on the monster server

user43095

2:26 AM

My ping is 17ms because I'm a New Yorker ~

Sebie

Well

user43095

You should be fine.

Sebie

Good for you..

@JeffreyLin

user43095

Until you get near Kevin's base and then you experience all the things.

Unionhawk

30% packet loss is not ideal

(and the award for "understatement of the century goes to...")

Sebie

2:27 AM

"ideal"

user43095

I don't get why the steam in the boiler turns red. Am I making lava now?

Unionhawk

You might have a broken texture or something

user43095

Vanilla

Unionhawk

It might be broken or something though still

user43095

It looks like the white steam, just red.

Unionhawk

2:28 AM

Also apparently I don't need to update mods

user43095

And seems to only happen if the temperature is above a certain level.

Unionhawk

Hmm

I dunno

Ideally your temperature should always be above that level

user43095

@Unionhawk according to the website the last mod updated was PowerConverters in August.

Unionhawk

Because it should be always as hot as possible

Because never for the love of god never let it go cold

user43095

It's easy to keep it warm when Kevin has 2M charcoal and you realize that he probably can't use it all up in ten days.

Tim Post

4:03 AM

There are almost no ores near the surface in this DW20 pack, except amber. I'm on my second day and still have not found coal

Tim Post

4:41 AM

mini endermen? DEAR GOD, WHY?! WHY WOULD SOMEONE DO THAT? AAAGGGGH

Tim Post

7:17 AM

Alright. My list is pretty simple of the stuff I'd want in this pack for server play. Dungeon Pack, Telepads, Treecapitator, Redstone Paste and I think that'd do it.

Kevin van der Velden

8:17 AM

@JeffreyLin that's pretty clever actually, nice! - You could change the clock to a buildcraft and gate that would pulse really fast when there's items in the dispenser

@JeffreyLin @Jochem has 2M charcoal. I bounce back and forth between 100k and 0 because high temp furnace generators

Kevin van der Velden

8:28 AM

So, I'm building UH solars with UU and molecular transformers

And I'm making more UU than I'm using >.>

Jochem

9:11 AM

@Unionhawk I should have a netherstar or two/three in my AE system, @kevin can get them out for you :) that is, if he doesn't steal them and use them for his own nefarious purposes first

(also, every time I type nefarious purposes the urge to type nefarious porpoises is very strong)

Kevin van der Velden

There aren't really many uses for nether stars in our modpack I think

Jochem

true

only ones I can think of off the top of my head are wings and the wand of warding

and the netherstar generator, which I'm pretty sure Tema put in because "LOL direwolf will go crazy and build a complicated system for this LOLOL"

Kevin van der Velden

Wings aren't in the old pack I believe?

Jochem

they were, they're from extra utilities

I never got around to making them because of the unstable ingots, I hate crafting complicated stuff with those

Kevin van der Velden

Oh jeah, those things ><

Jochem

9:35 AM

I suppose they're handier than the thaumostatic harness, just never got around to making them

Kevin van der Velden

I just build a quantum jetpack

Kevin van der Velden

11:33 AM

I kinda wanna toss in Project E just to annoy @TimPost

Jochem

11:53 AM

lol :D

Jochem

12:20 PM

can you make silverwood saplings out of UU btw?

Kevin van der Velden

Uuh, soaryn did it on forgecraft

It cost more than 10 buckets IIRC

Jochem

ouch

Kevin van der Velden

I dunno, something insane

Jochem

12:41 PM

:o I'm watching a dw20 forgecraft video, and apparently salis mundus got a lot easier to get... You need a balanced shard, which is any kind of shard + two essentia of each the other 5 aspects in a crucible. The balanced shard then smelts into salis mundus

my first reaction: carrots :D

user43095

1:15 PM

@KevinvanderVelden I left it on overnight, not sure if I crashed the server.

user43095

@Jochem I made some for @Unionhawk last night, blew up three times before I got it right.

Jochem

@JeffreyLin supposedly the trick is to put all the parts in your hotbar and then use the number keys to place them in the crafting grid, but it's always difficult

user43095

@Jochem I struggled with too many items in my inventory and not memorizing the recipe correctly.

Jochem

yeah, that last one is really important, you might explode if you use NEI

user43095

I feel like GT is such a pain in the beginning but has cool endgame stuff.

Jochem

1:27 PM

@JeffreyLin I find it mostly adds tedium, at least for me.

user43095

NEI wouldn't put the ingots in the correctly place because the ingots had already turned red, and at that point the only thing I could do was close my inventory and die.

user43095

@Jochem I've never actually got to endgame, do you find that more satisfying? Like you get to look back on all the hard things you had to do and get that sort of satisfaction?

Jochem

@JeffreyLin most of my satisfaction in minecraft comes from building complicated machines in the world, automating things that are hard to automate... Gregtech only makes that harder by making a lot of things more expensive

I really dislike the long, complicated crafting recipes that vanilla IC2 has, all those steps just to make one simple thing...

user43095

Does it add anything needed?

Jochem

gregtech makes that much, much worse in my experience

user43095

1:32 PM

Yeah, I feel like IC2 has gotten worse since experimental started.

Jochem

they've got some good ideas for experimental, just the crafting has gotten really tedious

user43095

@KevinvanderVelden I left the machine on overnight and I just logged in to find a crapload of eggs everywhere and a lot of entities.

user43095

And I can't get to the button to slaughter them all.

Jochem

I'm kinda looking forward to playing with their heat transfer mechanic, if that's in the DW20 pack

user43095

And I can't seem to jump either/

user43095

1:40 PM

Why is this?

user43095

So if I'm reading F3 right then there are 17k entities.

Jochem

impressive :D

user43095

I can't jump, I'm seeing at 1 FPS, this might be the worst thing I've ever done.

user43095

@Jochem You're OP, halp

Jochem

@JeffreyLin I'm not

user43095

1:49 PM

You're mod of this room.

user43095

I thought all mods were OP

Jochem

Nope, there's very little link. The only reason I'm room-mod is because I ran a server

user43095

Ah.

user43095

Number of entities seems to be declining.

user43095

I think in the future I need a golem in that contraption.

user43095

1:54 PM

entities is at 5k now?

Kevin van der Velden

That's, less bad

user43095

@KevinvanderVelden halp

Kevin van der Velden

I shall assist with fire

user43095

@KevinvanderVelden I don't think you can get the fire close enough.

user43095

Sep 25 at 13:05, by Tim Post

You're the perfect one for the job, @KevinvanderVelden - in order to fix it, you must first break it worse than its ever been broken.

user43095

2:01 PM

Ithink the jumping has to do with the fact that Minecraft doesn't recognize my new keyboard layout

user43095

@KevinvanderVelden All you need to do is press the button, but that might cause more entities.

Kevin van der Velden

I am applying fire to the problem

user43095

How?

Kevin van der Velden

So much XP

Also, fire focus

La la la, lvl 36 and counting

42 and the exp is away

From lvl 5, killing chickens

647 pieces of cooked chicken in my system now

Well done @JeffreyLin!

user43095

2:56 PM

MWAHAHAHAHHA

user43095

@KevinvanderVelden Didn't you feel the lag?

user43095

Also, how long should it take between crushes?

Tim Post

I found a dungeon that is some kind of abandoned prison, definitely not a stronghold of any kind. Is this something new in Vanilla, or did one of the mods in the DW20 pack generate it?

user43095

@TimPost Probably the walled city generator mod

user43095

Pics?

user43095

3:01 PM

How long does it take for a chicken to turn adult?

Tim Post

@JeffreyLin Walled city generator isn't in this pack though. Hang on, I'll go back there and get some shots

user43095

Anyone have an iron golem they want to lend me?

Tim Post

Was filled with silverfish when I found it

user43095

I think this is vanilla, but I'm not sure/

user43095

@KevinvanderVelden There was another stack in my Hopper, total of 711

Tim Post

3:20 PM

There was no loot to be found, just these empty cells and enough silverfish to give you gas.

user43095

Weird.

user43095

It seems like a usable chicken farm requires MFR or at least a clock timer longer than 15 minutes.

user43095

3:31 PM

My minimap is showing lots of chickens, I can't find them.

Tim Post

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Q: What built this prison in the 1.7 DW20 pack?

I've been playing the new Direwolf20 pack for about a day now, and I happened upon this sort of abandoned prison while strip mining. Note that, as of now, DungeonPack and Walled City Generator are not in the DW20 1.7 pack, so they can't be what made this: That's all there is to this, just a se...

user43095

@TimPost Just quarry it, duh! </Kevin>

user43095

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Q: How can I make a fairly efficient chicken farm?

I made a chicken farm in FTB, but it created hundreds of chickens in one night, and that's not okay. I need a way to slaughter them every now and then. You can add mods to the pack. Killing the babies is okay, but I need to make it in a way that it's renewable and will never run out of chickens. ...

minecraft

user43095

Something about babies fitting in half blocks

Jochem

4:00 PM

@JeffreyLin thaumcraft has a slaughter golem core, it kills all but a breeding pair I think

user43095

@Jochem Yeah, I was thinking of putting a golem in with the chickens in the hopper.

user43095

If you put that as an answer I'll probably accept it as it's probably the easiest.

Jochem

make sure there's no other entities around though, it likes to get fixated on stuff far away sometimes

user43095

Can't you set a range or an animal?

Jochem

you might be able to set an animal, range I doubt

also, I'm not sure on the specifics, and it's not the best solution in most FTB packs, just in the one that runs on @TimPost's server

usually, I'd just suggest using an MFR chronotyper and slaughterhouse

user43095

4:04 PM

Yeah MFR would be pretty good.

Unionhawk

Woo all-vanilla answer on an "I use FTB wat do" question \o/

Jochem

user43095

That's okay

Unionhawk

(yes, babies fit in half-blocks, so we use that to our advantage and make the chickens grow up into lava)

Jochem

seriously though, vanilla machines are usually insanely impressive

Unionhawk

4:09 PM

At least one baby chicken was harmed in the making of that answer (he got in my way, so I slice)

user43095

At least 700 chickens were harmed this morning by @KevinvanderVelden.

user43095

Where does the meat go though? I can't visualize it. If the meat is cooked by the lava, wouldn't it be sitting on top of the slab though?

Unionhawk

There's a hopper right under the slab

user43095

That works??

Unionhawk

Yes.

Hoppers will pick up items on top of slabs on top of them

Hell, they'll work underneath soul sand

Just not full blocks

user43095

4:13 PM

Do you know how long it takes for a Chicken to grow up?

Unionhawk

I think 20 minutes?

user43095

Drat.

user43095

If we had RedPower than making a timer for that long wouldn't be a problem.

Unionhawk

Yes, 20 minutes.

Tim Post

4:43 PM

We will (soon-ish) probably just run the DW20 FTB pack / 1.7.10 on the server if there's no major objections

user43095

@TimPost I thought you were retiring the server.

Tim Post

and that experimental speedup mod, because sanity is overrated

user43095

And we didn't blow all the stuff up yet!

Tim Post

@JeffreyLin Turns out I'm probably not going to need to retire it

user43095

Oh, that's good news.

user43095

4:44 PM

But we still get to blow the stuff up right?

Tim Post

Oh yes. I hope you have plenty of nukes and TNT made

user43095

I have boilers.

Kevin van der Velden

@TimPost I have buckets of UU

user43095

That should take out my first floor right?

user43095

@KevinvanderVelden Start replicating all the TNT!

user43095

4:45 PM

Also can I get access to your AE for gunpowder?

Tim Post

@JeffreyLin Part of them. Boiler explosions are actually kind of disappointing.

user43095

@TimPost No boom?

Tim Post

@JeffreyLin A sort of wheezy boom.

user43095

I was disappointed that when I exploded while making unstable ingots, I didn't make a crater in my base.

Tim Post

Gunpowder? Give yourself a molecular transformer, a bank of fully charged MFSUs and some stacks of netherrack. Instant gunpowder :)

user43095

4:47 PM

I don't have OP

Kevin van der Velden

Thaumcraft also makes infinite gunpowder

user43095

I don't think I unlocked that research.

Tim Post

The best way to blow up a server is to give everyone op, or just Kevin, whichever is easiest.

Kevin van der Velden

I think it's probably better to just give everyone creative mode

I can already op myself =p

user43095

Give me creatives

Tim Post

4:49 PM

I'm actually quite pleased at how infrequently the server had issues.

user43095

I made it have issues this morning.

Tim Post

I wonder if Utilities3 (telepebbles) made it to 1.7.10

I kinda miss my telepebbles

user43095

Everything Minecraft. We have a server, it runs 1.7.2: mc.echoreply.us Times @Jochem broke the server: 4, Times @KevinvanderVelden broke the server: 2, Times @KevinvanderVelden saved the day: 1

Kevin van der Velden

@JeffreyLin eeh, I'm usually the one that fixes it =p

user43095

Although I could have done that, just couldn't space properly.

Kevin van der Velden

4:52 PM

Fiiiiireee

Tim Post

These survivalist generators now hold 500,000 RF at the most basic tier. Gheeeeze!

user43095

@TimPost When are we blowing up all the things?

Tim Post

Let's give it a day or two for anyone that cares to meander in here and find out

Kevin van der Velden

Ideally we'd pick a time where both the dutchies and the 'mericans can join

Tim Post

We will be blowing up everything on the current 1.7.2 server in T-minus 72 hours, starting now, to make way for the 1.7.10 DW20 FTB pack.

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user43095

4:53 PM

@TimPost I tested it a while ago, EnderIO stirling generators with the octatic(?) upgrade are a bit more efficient.

user43095

Does anyone besides @KevinvanderVelden and I still play?

Tim Post

@JeffreyLin Yeah, but I just got 1.5 million RF on half a stack of charcoal and all it cost me was a few iron ingots and some redstone. Niiiiiiiiiiiiice!

user43095

@Jochem is active in chat, but I don't know the server.

Kevin van der Velden

@TimPost just because my head is borked today and I wanna doublecheck: That's wednesday, correct

user43095

@TimPost You need a coke coal furnace.

user43095

4:55 PM

Does the pack have Forestry?

Jochem

I haven't been on in a while, I got to where I usually stop playing

Kevin van der Velden

DW20 yes, cur one no

Tim Post

@JeffreyLin My first real day in the pack man, c'mon :) I did get a diamond pick and full iron gear too. Not bad. Oh yeah, and 2 of the inscriber plates for AE2.

Kevin van der Velden

We have 44 forge mods in total, answerto any "Does the pack have X" is probably no

user43095

@TimPost If you have a sugarcane farm/cactus farm you can make cactus coke and sugarcane coke.

user43095

4:56 PM

And c'mon! Sand and bricks

Unionhawk

@KevinvanderVelden Does the pack have Minecraft Forge?

Kevin van der Velden

@Unionhawk points to the word probably

Tim Post

I have a hut that belonged to a coven witch that I evicted, so far. And 3 chests, a few furnaces and a crafting bench. Literally quite early game.

user43095

My first day on the current server I made a coke coal furnace :P

user43095

Then I automated the crap out of it.

user43095

4:58 PM

But then again someone here gave me a starter kit, thanks guys

Jochem

room topic changed to Minecraft Talk: Everything Minecraft. We will be blowing up everything on the current 1.7.2 server in T-minus 72 hours, starting now, to make way for the 1.7.10 DW20 FTB pack. (noon EST, 6pm CET nov 5th) [minecraft]

room topic changed to Minecraft Talk: Everything Minecraft. We will be blowing up everything on the current 1.7.2 server in T-minus 72 hours, starting now, to make way for the 1.7.10 DW20 FTB pack. (destruction starts noon EST, 6pm CET nov 5th) [minecraft]

user43095

Noon? I won't be on then, I guess I'll just do it the night before.

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