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2:07 AM

@Braiam - reopened it

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8:02 AM

@slm They are dupes though, asked on the same day even! I suggest merging instead if that's OK with you.

Drav's answer is great and I don't want to lose it but the Qs are certainly dupes.

We had this conversation back then that they were dups and I thought we came to the consensus then that they are very tightly related but are asking slightly different things

I've always left those 2 Q's alone since then

@slm Yeah, I was just looking at the transcript now.

Hmmm....

OK, fair enough, I'll leave a comment linking the questions though since both will be of interest to anyone wondering about that horrible little thing.

Related (and worth a read): How does a fork bomb work? — terdon ♦ 20 secs ago

@terdon I voted to reopen, per @Braiam. I think it is close, but the second one is asking where the fork happens, which isn't actually specifically addressed in the first one.

There are certainly closely related. Personally, I think a merge would be reasonable, but which question would one use?

@FaheemMitha Yeah, I read some of the conversation and was also convinced. Hence the comment.

I just hope nobody actually tried that code.

How fast would this code crash a machine, anyway?

8:19 AM

Those Q's you have to be extremely intimate with the whole situation to understand the differences. On the surface they seem like they're asking the same thing.

@FaheemMitha Took me about 14 seconds.

@terdon Oh, you tried it then? Brave. Is it interruptible?

@FaheemMitha Nope :)

It runs in the background by default. It can be interrupted I guess if you react fast enough but I doubt you'll have the time. I ran it on a VM of course.

14 seconds seems like quite a long time.

Ah, VM.

9:20 AM

What is a good GUI print tool to use with CUPS?

9:47 AM

xpp looks ok. open to other options, though.

3 hours later…

12:56 PM

D:

I need to buy a new fan :(

1:16 PM

@Braiam - What size? 80mm or 120mm?

80's, the sensor blew up :/

coolerguys.com/80fans.html

I keep a few of those on hand since they are always failing 8-)

mine has 12 years working :P

btw, someone has seen this askubuntu.com/q/515366/169736

I'm guessing a macro

@Braiam - that's strange. If it specifically says praise allah like the OP says

Can anyone confirm that it actually says that?

1:44 PM

@slm a cursor theme

there's a theme called praise allah?

@Braiam yes! you're right. In Unity-Tweak-Tools the cursor theme is using something called Dhikr1_cursor, which comes with the Sabily-theme (I'm not actively using the theme) - and further search reveals that the islamic cursor is intentional. I think I installed it with a bunch of other themes that came bundled together, and somehow set the cusors to use it — yuvi 9 mins ago

3 hours later…

4:57 PM

cool, I'm transforming my 32-bits system to 64-bits

5:33 PM

@Braiam Reinstall, or on the fly?

I've got an app here, with the curious name of smuxi. I think it is may be a Gnome app. At any rate, it uses the gnome toolkit. Does anyone know how to resize (enlarge) the font for this app?

At present it is tiny.

Smuxi is a cross-platform IRC client for the GNOME desktop inspired by Irssi. It pioneered the concept of separating the frontend client from the backend engine which manages connections to IRC servers inside a single graphical application. == Architecture == Smuxi is based on the client–server model: The core application exists in the Smuxi back-end server which is connected to the Internet around-the-clock. The user interacts with one or more Smuxi front-end clients which are connected to the Smuxi back-end server. This way, the Smuxi back-end server can maintain connections to IRC servers even...

Unfortunately, Smuxi doesn't have a web front end. Just the client.

Should I ask a question about this? Not much point if it is impossible though.

And I'd prefer to just enlarge the font for that application if possible.

@FaheemMitha on the fly :P

is a freaking pain in the arse downloading all packages and installing them but is going fine... still

@Braiam That's brave of you.

I contemplated doing that last year, but decided I was not brave enough.

Anyone about the font thing? Shall I ask on the main site?

5:48 PM

Sure it isn't in the settings somewhere?

I'd think an app like that would have a font option.

@Seth I looked. I didn't find it.

I don't really use gnome, though.

I did find something about central font settings, which I don't really want.

Central font settings in gnome, that is. This is for Debian wheezy, so probably a little outdated.

@FaheemMitha Nothing is impossible with open source. (in Dalek voice) Recompile, recompile.

@Seth You have got to be kidding.

@FaheemMitha Alas I am in Windows atm, but later I'll try to test it out myself.

@FaheemMitha I'd save that for your last try ;p

@Seth Thanks. Shall I ask on the main site? I'll look like a moron if it is easy, but, alas, I am used to that.

?

5:51 PM

Might as well, someone might beat me to it.

@Seth last try?

@Seth Ok

@FaheemMitha If nothing else works.

Thanks, appreciate the interest.

@FaheemMitha Real quick, have you tried right clicking on the message interface?

@Seth I must be missing something.

@Seth One sec.

5:53 PM

yay, I answered a question.

Now let me find I missed a vital bit.

Tried right-clicking on everything in sight. No font resizing.

@Seth Which one?

@FaheemMitha hm, ok. Some dev's put it there.

@Seth ?

Pity it doesn't have a web client. That would work well. Not that I am a big web fan, but at least you can resize browser pages.

@FaheemMitha Some developers put things like font settings in the context menus.

@Seth Oh. What is a context menu?

5:55 PM

Right click menu.

@FaheemMitha Since you asked: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/151907/…

bbl

smuxi.im/issues/show/707

Eww, regexes. Upvoted.

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9:04 PM

I just started to get the following when running apt-get update

W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libcdio-dev'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libiso9660-dev'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libudf-dev'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libcdio-dev'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libiso9660-dev'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libudf-dev'
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

I think the correct response is: Huh?

@FaheemMitha Guess what? Smuxi is a mono app. Doesn't mean it doesn't use GNOME, but just interesting.

@Seth Yes, I noticed the mono thing when installing.

Not a lot of them around.

Are you using the gnome front-end package?

Most people sensibly stay away from mono.

I'm guessing you are, since it installed on mine.

9:09 PM

@Seth I don't know what that is. So I guess not. I don't really do Gnome, hence he question.

can you check if the package is installed? (smuxi-frontend-gnome)

@Seth It's installed, yes.

k

Right, that is the weird name of the smuxi app. I think they call it that because it is a server client thingy, and this is the client end.

Is this what you want?

user image

(obviously not that big)

user image

There's a saner shot.

9:14 PM

@Seth yeah, that looks good. How did you do that?

user image

In the preferences.

Note that you can supposedly connect to a smuxi running on a remote server, i guess if your local connection is flaky or something.

@FaheemMitha yeah, I'm not really sure how that works yet.

@Seth Great. I missed that. You want to answer the question? Apparently I lack basic UI skills.

wow, Smuxi looks like a nice irc app though. I think I'll try it.

9:17 PM

I think they should make it work with Ctrl-Shift-+.

@FaheemMitha Sure, I can add an answer. Don't worry about it, I've dealt with quite a few confusing UIs.

Like Chromium.

saw that bug.

I like all the key bindings to look the same. :-)

I think it's a good idea.

9:18 PM

14 points looks good for me.

I like that I can set it to the Ubuntu font :P

and answered.

yay, and they have a Windows port.

That covers all my OSes.

hm, I can't figure out how to turn off join/part messages. I hope it can do that.

9:34 PM

@Seth background, if you are curious. On #mercurial the other day someone suggested irccloud. So, I tried it a bit, it looked good. I checked for alternatives, I found this question on AU.

Nope, discussion on reddit. reddit.com/r/irc/comments/1spc0d/free_irccloudcom_alternative

Which mentioned smuxi.

reddit.com/r/irc/comments/1spc0d/free_irccloudcom_alternative/…

@Seth accepted, thanks.

ah cool. I'm not a redditer so I don't see those things.

btw, I figured out how to hide join/part messages: smuxi.im/ezfaq/show/smuxi?faq_id=13

not as easy as xchat, but it works.

@Seth I found it via google search.

ah

I'm interested in the server-client feature (assuming I can figure out how to use it). My impression is that this is not a common feature in IRC apps. This may be false - I haven't done a survey of IRC clients.

Hmm, maybe this could be a blog for Strugee, if I can get it to work.

Lots of people use IRC.

@Seth did it automatically join you to #smuxi too? I saw a seth there.

10:17 PM

@FaheemMitha yeah that was me.

@Seth Kind of a nutty thing to do.

ikr

@Seth ?

@FaheemMitha "I know right". Sorry.

@Seth That was my guess. :-)

So, you are visiting today? Do you hang out on Ubuntu channels too?

10:22 PM

Are you talking SE chat wise or IRC?

I'm usually lurking both here and the Ubuntu room on SE.

You can occasiaonally find me in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-quality, but I am not a regular on IRC.

@Seth Both

@Seth Ah, Ok.

@Seth Not the AU chat room?

I use IRC a fair amount myself. There are lots of people who wouldn't be caught dead in an SE chat room. A lot of free software people don't quite approve of SE I think.

yay! I foored my init!

@FaheemMitha yeah, wait for a while until mirrors sync

@Gilles schrooting from ubuntu to a installed debian is not very recommendable... it copies the users from the host system

I think I fixed ot

10:43 PM

@Braiam ?

@FaheemMitha Ubuntu room on SE == Au room ;)

@FaheemMitha That's pretty silly, IMO (not approving of SE).

@Seth Sorry, I read that as SO, for some reason.

Open source is not a religion, but, alas, some people treat it as such.

@FaheemMitha Ah ;)

@Seth Well, I don't know if people actually feel that way. I'm not sure anyone has said anything along those lines. I'm just inferring.

Perhaps unfairly.

@Seth They also prefer to call it free software. :-) Well, some of them.

@FaheemMitha I've read some bits, here and there. Nothing too blatant, but I know they exist.

@FaheemMitha I'll remember that.

10:50 PM

@Seth :-)

Well, thanks for your help with the smuxi thing. :-)

Where did they come up with that name?

I'll trying doing the server connect, but should try to get some sleep now. Take care.

@FaheemMitha I wonder that sometimes..

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