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12:06 AM

@FaheemMitha if you use schroot it will replace the /etc/passwd file, hence when dpkg tries to match up the users that appears in the statoverride file, it doesn't find it, hence it trows the error. If you set up schroot to not replacing the passwd file or re-installing/configuring the package the problem fixes

@Braiam how does one do that?

btw, thanks for remembering me to ask that

ask what? and yes, i'm using schroot

sounds like a good question to ask, actually, you wan to ask/answer it?

never mind, i'll ask it

@FaheemMitha beats me

@Gilles might know about it

12:17 AM

@Braiam Those are presumably the same question.

Shall I link to your question?

@FaheemMitha no, mine is how to prevent it, yours is asking why it happens

yours is dpkg schroot related, mine only refers to schroot behavior on a installed system

@Braiam Fair enough.

Yay, unix.sx now has a schroot tag.

I should post selfanswered questions more for issues I find...

I changed the title of geoclue to * so search engines just fill the blank when someone search for similar yet not the same user problems

and yeah, two horrible answers over AU about the same problem

and the same over SF

sighs this is the first time that I've written 3 similar yet different answers in 3 different sites

12:56 AM

@Braiam yes, i saw some terrible stuff on AU about this.

@Braiam Good call.

1:36 AM

@Braiam I don't really know anything about it but wouldn't your question be clearer if you showed the exact command you used with your schroot?

Dammit, this is getting annoying. Could someone vote to close this:

0

Q: shell script edited on windows displays unexpected error message

I am having some trouble running a script to ssh to a remote server. If I simply ssh from the command line I have no trouble reaching the server, but when I run a script to do this I get an error, "Name or service not knownname". I have added the IP address and host name to /etc/hosts and that di...

bash windows newlines

As a duplicate of this:

2

Q: Shell script works when saved with nano but not when saved with Notepad++

I've been working on a bash script all day and have been testing on the machine I will be using it on. When I copy the script across from Notepad++ into a new file with nano editor inside SSH and save. It runs fine. (sh ./install). But if I save the file (Exact same contents), upload to my web...

shell-script windows newlines

The accepted answer on the older one is mine and I'd rather not be accused of padding my own pockets again.

@terdon mm? just schroot? I used the stock file and just changed Type from plain to directory

it wasn't very special what I did

@Braiam Ah, as I said, I know nothing about schroot. I dunno, looked strange with no code but I guess it might not be needed.

actually schroot

Yeah, just edited :)

.... darn, don't ninja edit!

!!!!!!

1:46 AM

Heh

closed

Thanks

@terdon you found that one with at "too many comments" flag?

@Braiam No, it may well have caused that flag but someone else dealt with it if so.

btw, can someone cast flags here patents.stackexchange.com/q/10353/7747?

1:50 AM

I was just looking through the front page and knew we had a dupe for that.

I was about to close and saw it was mine. sigh

2:03 AM

@Braiam it' gone

I really need a CentOS/Fedora VM....

New user with a clear question deserving an upvote:unix.stackexchange.com/q/160497/22222

2:32 AM

@Braiam why?

BTW I'd encourage anyone to setup docker if you're interested in running multiple linux variants. It cannot handle the GUI aspects but all the cli differences can be dealt with using it.

@slm cuz all the CentOS/yum/Fedora/rpm questions that I could answer... and... um? why docker?

it's extremely light weight vs. Virtualbox, KVM, or VMware

been using it w/ work and it's awesome

all the major distros already have images so you can pull them down with a docker pull debian or whatever distro you want

docs.docker.com/reference/commandline/cli

here's the url to the docker registry where all the images are maintained

registry.hub.docker.com

you can get canned distros or distros w/ apps already installed/deployed

I'm thinking more like a chroot...

docker pull centos

2:52 AM

but, but... disk space! :/

@braim

$ docker pull centos
Pulling repository centos
504a65221a38: Download complete
87e5b6b3ccc1: Download complete
68edf809afe7: Download complete
511136ea3c5a: Download complete
5b12ef8fd570: Download complete

$ docker run -it centos /bin/bash

bash-4.2# cat /etc/redhat-release
CentOS Linux release 7.0.1406 (Core)
bash-4.2#

Wow, that's really cool. Trying it now.

@slm how much space does that CentOS take?

centos centos7 87e5b6b3ccc1 9 days ago 224 MB

Debian-like users, if you suddendly find aptitude trying to remove libsystemd-daemon0, is ok, the package is being depreciated in favor of libsystemd0

Not bad!

@Braiam Thanks for the heads up

2:56 AM

yeah, I got a little frantic when aptitude decided to remove it

The other cmds you'll use are:
docker ps
docker ps -a
docker images

(I read the whole thing before telling aptitude Y)

I would really love that maintainers fix the "update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults" thingy

docker is already the latest version. Now, when I try docker pull centos , the program is currently not installed.

@slm sudo docker pull centos just brings up a black window (looks like it wants to be a terminal) and hangs there.

it's a service, dockerd, needs to be running

2:59 AM

 $ sudo service dockerd status
 dockerd: unrecognized service

ditto

the pull needs to d/l the centos images from the registry

the name of the exe is dockerd, the service might be something else

Which might be taking ages on my connection but why isn't it showing anything for it's efforts?

service docker

No such thing.

Argh!

Completely different program

NAME
       docker - System tray for KDE3/GNOME2 docklet applications

       docker  is a docking application (WindowMaker dock app) which acts as a
       system tray for KDE3 and GNOME2. It can be used to replace the panel in
       either  environment, allowing you to have a system tray without running
       the KDE/GNOME panel.

3:01 AM

➜  ~  systemctl status docker.service
● docker.service - Docker Application Container Engine
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/docker.service; static)
   Active: active (running) since Fri 2014-10-10 22:56:32 AST; 4min 36s ago
     Docs: docs.docker.com
 Main PID: 10611 (docker)
   CGroup: /system.slice/docker.service
           └─10611 /usr/bin/docker -d

hehehehe >:)

apt-get install docker.io

that's the one @Braiam

docker can't handle the gui? It sounds so nice, but normally I want/need a gui on my VMs.

yay, pulling the image now.

@terdon is docker.io :)

3:02 AM

well it likely could, it's a server/services technology @Seth

and yeah... why two projects with the same name..?

So now is it just like virtualbox?

@Braiam Not for me. I'm on testing, looks like you're on jessie.

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A: X and xdotool in LXC instead of KVM

I can't say anything to the performance but in researching this I came across this SO Q&A titled: can you run GUI apps in a docker? that shows 3 methods for accomplishing this. Running AppX over VNC This method shows using the following Dockerfile: # Firefox over VNC # # VERSION ...

@slm sure. I thought that was slightly odd.

3:03 AM

What kernel are you using @Braiam?

@terdon testing....

@terdon, I referred from here and got it to work in 14.04.

@Braiam WTF? Let me check my sources. And which kernel?

@Ramesh Yeah, that's what I'm looking at.

linux-image-3.16-2-amd64:
Installed: 3.16.3-2

Yeah. I really need to spend some time updating stuff.

3:07 AM

terdon doesn't like upgrades ;)

share some of your love to the linux-image-amd64 package ;)

@Seth Sure I do. It's just that I haven't been at a time where I can afford the time and risk of one.

Watcha using testing for then?

in Ask Ubuntu General Room, 2 days ago, by terdon

@meda Many, many things probably. SSL off the top of my head. The regulars will know I am not an upgrade freak but 8.04 came out 6 years ago!

See?

meh, just install apt-listbugs

3:08 AM

@terdon haha

(I did see that).

@Seth I'm not. I'm using LMDE which is based on testing and can pull from it but is more stable since it gets fewer updates.

mm...

sudo docker pull centos
Pulling repository centos
87e5b6b3ccc1: Downloading 19.55 MB/78.11 MB 21m46s
68edf809afe7: Pulling dependent layers
504a65221a38: Pulling dependent layers
511136ea3c5a: Download complete
5b12ef8fd570: Download complete

In any case, installing docker now. I wasn't using the debian repos.

been there for a while and I don't see any network usage

docker run -it centos /bin/bash

3:10 AM

@slm I think he meant the pull process hasn't finished yet.

that tells docker to start up a container (-i) means it's interactive, (-t) means I want to use image centos for the container and to run the command /bin/bash

@slm, dl got over and now I am trying to run a separate process.

the pull will go a lot faster if you don't pull the whole repo.

@terdon Oh.. I find Debian release system confuses me.

...and devour less disk space

3:12 AM

@Seth Nah, I was simply not pointing to the Debian repos. LMDE have their own repo which sits on top of it and I had commented out my debian lines.

err...

I got it.

@Patrick How do we do that?

yeah when I said centos it pulled all of em

root 9938 5571 0 22:11 pts/0 00:00:00 docker run -it centos /bin/bash

3:12 AM

centos:lastest

@terdon docker pull centos:centos7

@Ramesh - cool it worked

Now, is it a separate process space?

@Patrick Woah, so without that you get what, 3 or 4 versions?

@Patrick now trying to figure out how to stop the other process

3:13 AM

Does anybody see that expr does not work with unicode string:

$ LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 expr length ăaa
4

@terdon you get every single one in the repo yes. some repos have dozens of images :-)

@terdon you get 5-7

Bugger.

@Braiam You can't. restart the service

@terdon: I check the source code and see that it use strlen()

3:15 AM

@Gnouc Yup. Same here. Presumably because the ă is two glyphs.

@slm Now, I see I have the entire file system in this.

strlen() returns number of bytes

@Gnouc What does?

@Ramesh - yeah it's a stripped down centos

@terdon: expr length use strlen() function

3:15 AM

the only diff is you're using your original Linux's kernel

do a uname -a in there

notice aything odd?

@Gnouc Ah, well it would, it's written in C.

else if (nextarg ("length"))
{
r = eval6 (evaluate);
tostring (r);
v = int_value (strlen (r->u.s));
freev (r);
return v;
}

@slm This is what I get.

Linux 61b390d34034 3.13.0-37-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 22 21:28:38 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

ubuntu kernel in centos?

it's using your host kernel

@Gnouc Heh, nice and simple. I wanted to ask you, is that really GNU? I tested on dash and it worked.

3:16 AM

Yeah. I notice the same in my host machine as well.

docker doesn't include the actual kernels that ship with the main distro

shouldn't matter though since they're all linux

bash-4.2# cat /etc/redhat-release
CentOS Linux release 7.0.1406 (Core)
bash-4.2# uname -a
Linux b8fa4d3f069e 3.16.3-200.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Sep 17 22:34:21 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

@slm So what does it have? Things like /etc/issue obviously but what else that actually makes a difference?

libraries + filesystem

Now, is this understanding correct? So, whatever commands I execute in the new docker, it shouldn't be visible in the processes list of my host machine?

@terdon: It's depend on distribution implementation. I only tested in GNU. POSIX defined that "The use of string arguments length, substr, index, or match produces unspecified results."

3:18 AM

@Ramesh - yeah

pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/expr.html

@slm Filesystem?

@Gnouc Ah, I see.

@Ramesh no, other way around

@Ramesh docker host can see all the processes of the containers

And do they look like normal processes or like some kind of "docker process"?

3:20 AM

regular procs

Ah, must be normal since it's piggybacking on the kernel

Yeah

So where is it useful?

Answering U&L questions about the RH world!

Testing software presumably.

root     20627  0.0  0.3 918420 29916 ?        Ssl  Sep29   4:10 /usr/bin/docker -d -H fd:// --selinux-enabled
root     24345  0.0  0.0  11748  2780 pts/20   Ss   23:16   0:00  \_ /bin/bash
root     24573  0.0  0.0   4320   184 pts/20   S+   23:20   0:00      \_ sleep 10000

So this container is something like a self contained OS ?

3:22 AM

@Ramesh sandboxing (limiting impact if a application is compromised or gets out of control), cheap throw-away containers (test a command that might trash the system), run apps not meant for your own distro, deploy apps without worrying about library compatability, the list goes on

@Ramesh - yeah, it can have it's own IPs etc.

So can I install software using the guest distro's packaging tools? And have it be there next time I run the jailed OS?

@Patrick cool. But why it still sees the entire disk when I run df command on this container?

yeah since getting deeper into docker, it's been alot easier to switch across distros to answer Q's here now 8-)

@slm That's cool.

3:23 AM

@terdon correct

Nice.

@Ramesh depends on the storage driver docker is using. if you see the full disk space available, you're either using btrfs, or vfs

docker's an areas where we can really expand the site w/ content that's not available anywhere else too. Plus it's a boon for us to be able to field Q's on any distros more easily

we can even share images back to the registry and therefore w/ each other

Cool new toy, thanks guys!

Now, is it powerful like KVM installed OSes?

3:25 AM

@terdon tsk, tsk, tsk.... forgot about the electric chainsaw already?

@Ramesh - it's different. It has pros over KVM but there are still things where a hypervisored VM is better

@Braiam Hey, who needs two arms anyway?

Now, how much recursion can it take? Can I install centos on my LMDE, install arch on the centos, install gentoo on the arch and Ubuntu on the gentoo?

I don't see why there should be a limit.

you can run docker on kvm

@slm cool. So is it persistent across reboot?

@terdon you can nest docker inside docker infinitely yes

3:26 AM

Oh, the silliness.

@Ramesh - how do you mean?

as in pause it and snapshot it?

Oct 10 23:24:15 bp docker[18397]: [info] Local (127.0.0.1) DNS resolver found in resolv.conf and containers can't use it. Using default external servers : [8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4]

:(

@slm I mean if I reboot my machine will the container be lost?

the images remain intact, the containers will remain but if a process was running inside it it'll be gone

as if it was rebooted

the key concepts w/ docker are images & containers

So is this the centos image of the container?

3:28 AM

docker images shows you the inventory of what images you have

docker ps shows you the inventory of containers

ramesh@ramesh-pc:~$ file shot0001.png
shot0001.png: PNG image data, 640 x 360, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced

that's a image

png file

my bad. Sorry about that.

sudo ls -l /var/lib/docker/containers

on fedora anyways

I meant to ask where will the centos image file be stored.

@slm Thanks. That is the location in ubuntu 14.04 as well.

3:35 AM

if you run docker images -t it shows the tree hierarchy of how the images relate

Damn, we can't get a UNIX on this thing can we? I searched for a few and couldn't find any. I'd love to be able to test some parsing tricks on a real UNIX.

@slm, cool. That's really awesome.

Nerdies on a friday night learning docker. :)

it's a Linux only technology

for OSX there's a project called boot2docker that uses virtualbox w/ linux inside it

Oh, of course, it need to use my kernel.

docker is similar to openvz

45

Q: Where are docker images stored on the host machine?

I managed to find the containers under directory /var/lib/docker/containers, but can't find the images. Can somebody also explain the directories and files under /var/lib/docker? Thanks

3:40 AM

gtg. Thanks a lot @slm for this productive information. I appreciate it.

@slm: I think it's much simpler than OpenVZ

@Gnouc - oh yes, very much so. I still maintain a server that I use for my home servers and that was a pain in the @$$ to setup/install vs.docker

4:39 AM

mm... the heck

typed exit in the centos container and all my changes were lost...?

@Braiam: you must commit your changes, like you do with git

@Gnouc even if it's interactive?

@Braiam: Yes, see stackoverflow.com/questions/19585028/…

@Gnouc how can I commit a interactive container?

@Braiam: I mean after you quit interactive mode.

4:46 AM

how can I quit interactive mode without... mmm... terminating the container?

I'm not sure, here is an exampe developer.basespace.illumina.com/docs/content/documentation/…

@Braiam docker start OLD_CONTAINER_ID_HERE to resume it

@Patrick cool

btw, is docker start ID && docker attach ID

or docker start -ai

yup

the heck... centos doesn't have an editor?

mm... vi?

5:15 AM

@Braiam - it does the image just doesn't include it. yum install vim

@slm no, it actually has vi, just that neither sensible-editor nor $EDITOR are set, so I was baffled for a while

ah

5:56 AM

@Braiam changes are not lost, they are versioned. So here in my scenario I had the original container that was started against centos7 + I did 2 things insie that container after running it. One of which was installed vim

$ docker ps -a
CONTAINER ID        IMAGE               COMMAND                CREATED             STATUS                          PORTS               NAMES
4bb67a64cde9        centos:centos7      "/bin/bash"            29 minutes ago      Exited (1) 3 minutes ago                            ecstatic_ptolemy
b8fa4d3f069e        centos:centos7      "/bin/bash"            2 hours ago         Exited (0) About a minute ago                       elegant_stallman
e3f318c8ef37        centos:centos7      "/bin/bash"            3 hours ago         Exited (0) 2 hours ago                              an…

6:14 AM

Also if you're confused by the containers state take a look at this doc

docs.docker.com/terms/container

3 hours later…

9:19 AM

user image

now I can sleep 8-)

9:45 AM

@slm Congrats! I was already wondering why you were up so late answering questions

2 hours later…

Tomasz Kowalczyk

11:37 AM

Hello, do any of you have triple monitors on two graphic cards on recent Ubuntu? I'd be very grateful for any help with achieving that.

12:06 PM

@Anthon one final push to get over the 100k

@slm YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! Go slm!

@TomaszKowalczyk What's the problem? Have you posted a question on the site?

12:19 PM

@TomaszKowalczyk I gave up on that and drive my 3rd monitor from a second system sharing one keyboard and mouse with xvnc

@terdon - thanks terdon! Now on to 200k 8-)

When you challenge someone to do your homework, you need to provide the address of your instructor so that challengers can hand their solution in. — Gilles ♦ 16 secs ago

@FaheemMitha ^^^^

@Gilles I bet he thought he was being soooo sneaky clever. "A challenge for you guys, who is good enough to solve this?"

12:35 PM

Reminder: hardware upgrades for the #stackexchange network (including #stackoverlfow) start in about 2.5 hours: http://stackstatus.net/post/99587389234/server-maintenance-saturday-oct-11th-2014

Tweeted by StackStatus on October 11, 2014 at 12:25 PM

1 hour later…

2:04 PM

@Braiam yeech, no. I rolled back your edit. It made it seem that the message contained an asterisk.

@Gilles What edit is that? What's the title of geoclue?

Ah, never mind, fount it.

3

Q: Error message: unknown user 'geoclue' in statoverride file

I obtained a strange error message inside a chroot: unknown user 'geoclue' in statoverride file when running apt-get install or apt-get upgrade. I use schroot to enter this chroot. I found that I had a package called geoclue-2.0 installed in the chroot, and I purged it. apt-get purge geoclue...

debian chroot dpkg schroot

@Gilles actually thats just the a user name, is not relevant to the problem per se and can change from package to package so I through that omitting it would help it to place higher in google search, since it's likely people will use "Error message: unknown user 'user' in statoverride file" and google takes single quotes (or maybe is double?) as a must have term

btw, the asterisk is a known search operator that means "fill in the blank" (which is cool!)

@Braiam Huh? Which search? Google?

@terdon yep support.google.com/websearch/answer/136861?hl=en

2:13 PM

@Braiam but people will serch unknown user 'wibble' in statoverride file or somesuch, they won't use your title as their search. You've got it backwards.

A search operator goes into the query, not into the result.

@Gilles I'm looking if google uses the same operator for ordering results, I presume it does, as there are other posts where I've done the same and the page view went up a notch

@Braiam I have no idea what the first part of your sentence means. Regarding the last part, never replace a name by a wildcard when you quote an error message. That makes it look like the wildcard was part of the message, it's very misleading.

@Gilles that independently of the term in quotes, it will show the relevant results

@Braiam * in a query does that. You're changing a search result.

2:30 PM

@Gilles exactly, I'm suspecting it does that for results too

@Braiam I don't know what “that” is in this sentence

using a wildcard

if I search "unknown user 'X' in statoverride file" where X can be anything, it will show our results first

it does?

that's silly

Punctuation is very important in error messages

Changing a name for another when the name is a parameter is fine, but never change it to punctuation. That completely changes the meaning.

It makes it look like the punctuation was in the output of the program, which would be a completely different problem

user image

@Braiam what is this supposed to show?

on a query without quotes, Google shows results that don't have all the words

2:37 PM

@Gilles the one I edited, has the '*' in bold, so it's taking it as search term

@Braiam I think it's just highlighting the punctuation between search terms together with the search terms

@Gilles Has anyone provided you with the address of their instructor yet?

I'm almost thinking about dropping the 'geoclue' altogether

copying AU's title

@Braiam please don't

There was some hardare upgrade thing? Is that over now?

2:39 PM

@FaheemMitha supposed to begin in 20 min

@Gilles why? the user in the error message is irrelevant

@Gilles Ah, bummer.

@Braiam yes, but the fact that there is a username there is

as long as you know how to identify the affected package solving the problem has a standard solution so we can cut on details and get a canonical Q/A

@Braiam i think google will pick up the question regardless. let me try

2:43 PM

nope, it won't if you use "wibble"

@Braiam i tried 'foobar'. it was number 5. try it.

@Braiam @Gilles what do you think of the answer unix.stackexchange.com/a/160503/4671

I haven't tried it yet.

@FaheemMitha seems logical, but I haven't tried yet

@Braiam Ok

@FaheemMitha it makes a complete disconnection between users in the chroot and users outside, including not propagating /home. For the typical schroot use case of installing a different distribution, that's not right: what you want is to propagate human users (and their home directories), but leave system users alone. I'm planning to answer that later today.

@Gilles yes, i see your point. So, you don't see it as the right approach then? Thanks.

Leave system users alone, meaning don't propagate them? Right, that makes sense, because schroot shares /home but not /.

Hmm, yes, and this really needs to be done dynamically, meaning the info in the schroot should stay current as the host changes.

2:54 PM

Does anyone think we should keep this?

0

Q: How does booting a computer exactly work?

I somewhere read that the term "to boot a computer" comes from the fact, that in the booting process, the OS "pulls itself up on its bootstraps". I have only basic knowledge about what happens while a computer boots up. So please explain what exactly happens when a computer boots up, lets say us...

Seems either 1) off topic since it's general computing and not really *nix (despite the last line) or 2) way, way too broad.

As jimmij has remarked, both your questions are pretty well-covered by Wikipedia: the etymology (which isn't on-topic here as “booting” is not specifically a Unix term), and how a typical PC boots, including the Linux case. There's a lot to be said on the topic of booting, so I'm voting to close your question as too broad. Feel free to ask more focused questions here, for example if there's something you don't understand in the Wikipedia article. — Gilles 53 secs ago

@terdon I'm with Gilles here. Shall I vote?

Ok, voted.

Good, I'll close it then.

@terdon answer it with this thingy meta.askubuntu.com/q/9237/169736

Wow, they really, really love their screenshots in AU.

2:59 PM

And that's a meta post!

@FaheemMitha One of my very first meta posts on AU:

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Q: Why do people post screenshots of their terminals?

I have noticed a lot of posts on AU with screenshots of their terminal showing commands and their output. This is seems like a very bad idea to me because: You can't copy/paste the commands They won't come up when searching The post is heavier (in terms of the amount of data) and will take lon...

discussion editing

@terdon You make all good points here. I think they like their screenshots because they are pretty. Or they think they are.

@terdon I think I'm the user with less screenshots of the ones with >100 answers in AU

I seem to have upvoted it, so I read it at some point.

@Braiam Wouldn't be surprised :)

@FaheemMitha That was a very popular proposal so no, they don't. It's only new users who do.

@terdon I've seen high rep users question/answers with tons of screenshots.

It's one of the more obvious differences between AU and here.

3:03 PM

most of my answers ain't about using the GUI... and I remember only one where the screenshot is critical to illustrate the instructions

@FaheemMitha Well, for GUI solutions, they make sense. I've posted quite a few screenshots here myself.

@terdon They tend to do it even when GUIs are not involved. E.g. shots of terminals.

@FaheemMitha That's what was pretty nicely stopped after that meta post. I haven't seen one like that in a while. If you see one, flag it.

I personally doubt I have ever posted a screenshot on any technical site.

@terdon why flag?

s/flag/suggest an edit/ (?)

3:06 PM

@terdon I will, thanks. Flag for mod attention? Are @Seth and co on board with this?

@Braiam Because editing that is a hell of a lot of work and because Oli suggested flagging. I'd edit but I have the rep.

> If you see a post like that, flag, comment vote and edit them until they're showing the right thing.

What's going on?

@Seth Sorry for taking your name in vain. :-)

Obviously, the best thing is to edit but one of them pesky mods suggested that flagging is also acceptable.

Mods love flags, they make us feel important.

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@Seth we were talking about screenshots. terdon said said to flag if we saw inappropriate use of them.

@terdon Editing a screenshot would be tricky, since we don't have the original text. The poster really needs to do it.

3:09 PM

Yeah, flagging works, but editing and commenting is better!

I knew someone would star that one :)

There isn't much mods can do about this that you can't :-)

@Seth Boo lazy!

@terdon Start what?

s/start/star/

3:10 PM

ah

@terdon busy might be more like it, we've had over 800 flags this week :-)

Gotta run, later folks.

@Seth Ouch! We don't get that many in a month!

@Seth that's the low water level on SO... :P

3:32 PM

@Braiam while we're on the topic of schroot, do you know how to get X forwarding to work from inside the chroot?

maybe install some x libs?

hmm, xauth is already there

3:47 PM

@FaheemMitha it worked fine whenever I chrooted and binded the relevant directories

@Braiam what would those directories be? and are they directories automatically binded by schroot?

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