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lyxal
lyxal
12:31 AM
@Ginger it's acceptable
 
Seggan
Seggan
12:54 AM
 
emanresu A
emanresu A
@Seggan You might say… it’s quite political
 
 
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Simd
Simd
2:20 AM
@Bubbler I like this a lot!
 
l4m2
l4m2
tio.run/… Is there no way to call ""a in hex?
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
3:02 AM
given it's a "literal operator suffix", i'd assume not
because it only works on literals
so there's no way to disambiguate the parsing in the operator's favor
given it seems to be the case that you're encouraged to use underscores with these, the real problem is calling the operator just a :P
 
l4m2
l4m2
pastebin treat ' in 0x1'1 as start of character pastebin.com/k3YBL89u
 
Fraune
Fraune
3:46 AM
Hi - new to the code golf stackexchange. I couldn't find anywhere that describes when I should edit an answer vs writing a new answer if I can make an improvement. I notice a lot of people like to strike out the bytes and update it with the new count, but the answer I can improve has some nice text written about their particular strategy that is not applicable to my improvement, and I would probably delete. Wondering what people here think
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
if it's someone else's solution? you either write a comment detailing your golf to it or post a new answer of your own. actually directly editing other people's solutions is basically unheard of
and if you're overhauling a very important part of their logic it sounds like it should just be a new answer
in the more general case where there's some explanation you're kind of proud of, the #1 thing to consider is the edit history will preserve it no matter what, and #2 is you can just leave it as a section underneath your new and improved solution within the same answer post
 
l4m2
l4m2
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Title: Took me 5s to understand. LMAO~~~~
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
ahahahaha
 
Fraune
Fraune
@UnrelatedString okay makes sense - I didn't know if it worked like other stack exchange sites where people tried to get the best result for any particular language, or people like to submit their own options. Thanks
 
Rydwolf Programs
Rydwolf Programs
4:45 AM
@noodleman Idk the meta, I've just written vanilla up until now lol
 
Hello, World!
Hello, World!
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A: "Hello, World!"

Mukundan314Acc!!, 63 bytes 195657271854030749545429 Count i while _ { Write _%83+32 _/83 } Try it online! Stores the string Hello, World! as an integer in base-83 then uses a loop to decode and print it. Due to limitations of the scoreboard snippet, the title of this post is incorrect. The correct name of...

 
 
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zoomlogo
zoomlogo
6:20 AM
@l4m2 how is 0×12 = 18?!?!
OH WAIT
hexadecimal
 
 
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Simd
Simd
7:44 AM
CMQ Flip a fair coin 100 times, giving a sequence of heads (H) and tails (T). For each HH, Alice gets a point; for each T_T (that is, two tails separated by one flip, either heads or tails) Bob gets a point. Who is more likely to end up with the most points?
 
The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
@Simd Equally likely.
 
Simd
Simd
@TheEmptyStringPhotographer why?
 
The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
@Simd HH (25%) is equally likely to TT (25%).
 
Simd
Simd
@TheEmptyStringPhotographer it’s T_T
See the explanation in the brackets
 
The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
Didn’t you change it?
Wait what
 
Simd
Simd
7:52 AM
Example: If you flipped 8 times, say HHHTHTHTHT, Alice would get 2 points (starting in positions 1 and 2) and Bob would get 3 points, starting in positions 4, 6, and 8.
 
The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
I swear it wasn’t T_T before
 
Simd
Simd
:) I didn’t change it
 
The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
Anyways, I think Alice will get more points, since they both still have a 25% chance of happening, but HH uses less flips than T_T, and so more points per flip on average.
 
Simd
Simd
Try changing 100 to a larger number
 
l4m2
l4m2
I believe Alice more likely as Alice has 99 tries while Bob only has 98, but can't confirm
 
The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
7:58 AM
@Simd Still holds.
 
Simd
Simd
@TheEmptyStringPhotographer you might need to think again
 
The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
@Simd Then again, I might not need to.
 
l4m2
l4m2
8:12 AM
Tried, A:B=5:4
Wait program wrong
 
Neil
Neil
seems fairly equal to me, my random 1000 trials turned up 255 HHs and 255 T_Ts
 
Simd
Simd
@TheEmptyStringPhotographer imagine it is only 3 coin tosses
 
l4m2
l4m2
It seems reasonable to get their exact value
 
l4m2
l4m2
8:40 AM
tio.run/… Yes A is higher
But if tie is B's win then B higher
 
Simd
Simd
@Neil is this for 100 tosses?
 
Neil
Neil
no, by 1000 trials I meant tosses
 
 
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The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
10:03 AM
@Simd Bob can get a max of 1 point, but Alice can get 2.
 
 
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Simd
Simd
11:10 AM
@TheEmptyStringPhotographer yes
 
noodle man
noodle man
11:51 AM
@RydwolfPrograms you should probably use vite instead of webpack, vite is faster and more modern and it’s plug-ins make more sense
tbh it’s been a little while since i was just using TS and a bundler though, usually i use Astro
which is built on top of vite iirc
 
Ginger
Ginger
12:49 PM
@lyxal have you seen what I replaced the reflection with? :p
 
lyxal
lyxal
i meant the lexer changes
 
Ginger
Ginger
👍
now I need to come up with builtins
 
lyxal
lyxal
how many you thinkng?
 
Ginger
Ginger
uhh
unsure
 
lyxal
lyxal
do you want small lang or big lang?
lots of stuff or minimum stuff needed?
 
Ginger
Ginger
12:58 PM
small, probably
 
lyxal
lyxal
I recommend seeing what Uiua has then
 
Ginger
Ginger
ooh, good idea
 
lyxal
lyxal
those should be a good start
fundamental things imo
 
Ginger
Ginger
thanks!
appreciate it
 
lyxal
lyxal
making lists of things a language should include is kind of my speciality :p
 
mousetail
mousetail
1:10 PM
Every language needs that one builtin that really shouldn't be a builtin
 
Ginger
Ginger
mandelbrot :b
 
lyxal
lyxal
frombulate => pop x, y, push whether x is prime and whether y has an even number of letters
there's your builtin that shouldn't be a builtin
 
mousetail
mousetail
Except Mathamatica and PHP where most of the builtins really don't feel like they should be builtins
 
Ginger
Ginger
1:34 PM
hm, I might be able to do something silly here
Kotlin coroutines integrate with JS
so I might not need a worker to run the interpreter
no, I think I'll still need a worker
but at least I can write the entire page in Kotlin
 
Neil
Neil
1:50 PM
@mousetail like FizzBuzz you mean?
 
mousetail
mousetail
@Neil I was thinking in terms of practlangs but FizzBuzz in golfinglangs also count I guess
 
Neil
Neil
@lyxal what's the difference between fold and reduce?
 
lyxal
lyxal
2:05 PM
Nothing, actually
I forgot they were the same thing at the time of writing
 
mousetail
mousetail
Fold takes the initial value as a second argument, reduce doesn't. Without dynamic typing it's easy to use one to implement the other though
 
Seggan
Seggan
2:20 PM
@mousetail ImageInstanceQ[x,"caprine animal",RecognitionThreshold->i/100]
Mathematica has a builtin for determining goats. I don't know how to feel about that. — Robert Fraser Feb 10, 2016 at 15:21
i think thats the most upvoted comment on the site
 
mousetail
mousetail
 
RubenVerg
RubenVerg
2:37 PM
@lyxal i would like to buy a list of things a language with the following characteristics should include: each primitive has up to four inputs, each marked with a cardinal direction, and up to four outputs, also marked with cardinal directions; all values are integers; many primitives have a concept of outputting "to the first free side" which means the first side that doesn't have an input
let me know how much this costs, thanks!
 
noodle man
noodle man
@lyxal why entire stack rotation?
just makes things hard to wrap your head about
ig it is sorta useful in a golflang
 
 
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DLosc
DLosc
4:55 PM
@mousetail Hmmm... does it count that Pip has builtins for secant, cosecant, and cotangent? At any rate, I've never used them.
 
Rydwolf Programs
Rydwolf Programs
5:37 PM
Graphics demo for the game I'm working on
 
The Empty String Photographer
The Empty String Photographer
I'm soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired
 
Larry Bagel
Larry Bagel
5:52 PM
@RydwolfPrograms looks pretty cool, also looks similar to like surviv.io
 
Rydwolf Programs
Rydwolf Programs
Yep, that was a major inspiration
I loved surviv.io so much I'm so sad it's dead
 
Larry Bagel
Larry Bagel
:(
 
 
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Seggan
Seggan
7:12 PM
@RydwolfPrograms why does this look suspiciously like surviv.io
ooh what im working on:
took me forever but i got minecraft model parsing (mostly) down:
and this was actually mostly working on the first try, bar some winding order bugs
 
Rydwolf Programs
Rydwolf Programs
7:47 PM
@Seggan It's all from memory too
 
Aiden Chow
Aiden Chow
@RydwolfPrograms surviv io v2.0?????
 
Neil
Neil
if you really want to mess someone's JS up, export a function called then from your ES module, so they can't dynamically import it
 
Rydwolf Programs
Rydwolf Programs
@AidenChow Maybe :p
Didn't start as that but it's kinda morphed into it lol
 
Aiden Chow
Aiden Chow
@RydwolfPrograms I see, dope! whens gonna be out lol, i loved surviv io
 
Ginger
Ginger
the pressure's on d:
 
Rydwolf Programs
Rydwolf Programs
8:01 PM
@AidenChow Planning on a really low-effort initial beta in a day or two
With just like one gun and little to no terrain
 
Aiden Chow
Aiden Chow
@RydwolfPrograms will the gun be similar to one in surviv or completely different??
 
Rydwolf Programs
Rydwolf Programs
Probably just a generic pistol
Undecided how many guns I'll add and if they'll be named/modeled after real ones, or if I'll just make them generic
 
Rydwolf Programs
Rydwolf Programs
8:15 PM
I'm using TS for the front-end and Go for the back and really liking both
Go has a few oddities, but it feels a lot like a vanilla, no-surprises compiled/statically-typed language, which I like
 
Aiden Chow
Aiden Chow
@RydwolfPrograms ah yea starting with the basic gun, will it be more like ot38 or m9 from surviv
 
Rydwolf Programs
Rydwolf Programs
I'm thinking 8 bullets, decent amount of damage, pretty poor accuracy. So sort of like a DEagle with the damage of an OT-38
 
Aiden Chow
Aiden Chow
@RydwolfPrograms if I pick up two can I dual wield
Also u r saying the accuracy and firing rate will be like a deagle but dmg is like ot38?
 
Rydwolf Programs
Rydwolf Programs
Approximately yeah
 
Aiden Chow
Aiden Chow
Cool, that sounds interesting, tho ot38 actually does quite a bit with no armor
 
Rydwolf Programs
Rydwolf Programs
8:24 PM
Okay I just got a chem test back from a few months ago and there was a sheet stapled to it where we had to write the correct answers for all the ones we got wrong and why we got them wrong and for the only question I got wrong the reason just says "brain mushy" 💀
 
Aiden Chow
Aiden Chow
@RydwolfPrograms valid reason lmao
 
Ginger
Ginger
relatable
@RydwolfPrograms doesn't Go not have generics
 
Aiden Chow
Aiden Chow
Well I actually just took an AP Chem final not too long ago and I feel like i bombed it lol
Titration is weird af to me, that’s for sure
 
Ginger
Ginger
someday I should try making a full-stack app entirely in Kotlin
 
Rydwolf Programs
Rydwolf Programs
@Ginger I believe it does now
But for lots of server-side applications, you don't really need those
And go's awesome for just duct-taping together sockets and streams and threads and srudf
 
Ginger
Ginger
8:38 PM
kotlin coroutines :3
hands-down my favorite implementation of asynchronous programming ever
reeeeeeally wish JetBrains had made an actual language server for Kotlin
that's like my one problem with it
they have effectively a monopoly on the IDE market when it comes to Kotlin
 
Seggan
Seggan
@Ginger those are great i agree
they go out of your way
@Ginger eh tbh Kotlin/JS is not that great
 
Ginger
Ginger
I'll be the judge of that
 
 
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lyxal
lyxal
10:51 PM
@RubenVerg so it's a 2d language which seems to operate one tick at a time
Interesting
Estimated cost is 5
 
DLosc
DLosc
That's a pretty steep cost
I knew you were into stealing limbs, but digits now?
 
lyxal
lyxal
It's the economy
2 just ain't cutting it like it use to
That's why it's gotta be 5
Hey guys guess what wiki: <page name> one boxes as the Wikipedia link
Code golf
Code golf is a type of recreational computer programming competition in which participants strive to achieve the shortest possible source code that solves a certain problem. Code golf challenges and tournaments may also be named with the programming language used (for example, Perl golf). == Etymology == The term "code golf" is derived from the similarity of its goal with that of conventional golf, where participants seek to achieve the lowest possible score, rather than the highest, as is the standard in most sports and game scoring systems. While conventional golf players try to minimize the...
I sent wiki: code golf and it worked
Amazing
For testing it out yourself, go to the sandbox
 
Newly Featured Posts
Newly Featured Posts
11:19 PM
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Q: {Curly Numbers};

DLoscIn the esoteric programming language Curly, programs consist solely of curly braces {} and semicolons ;. Despite this humble toolset, Curly has literals that can represent any nonnegative integer. The format is a little hard for the uninitiated to read, though, so let's write some code to do the ...

code-golf number balanced-string
 
Ginger
Ginger
@lyxal WHAT
 
lyxal
lyxal
ikr
 
Ginger
Ginger
like, I thought that was a really elaborate rickroll setup
since when has this been a thing
 
lyxal
lyxal
A while it seems
It's definitely not new
 
Ginger
Ginger
wacky
and of course it's not documented anywhere
 
Sandbox Posts
Sandbox Posts
11:52 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

FluorineThis is a joint post with https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/126255/dishonest-dungeon-staff I guess the tags would be something like fastest-algorithm, math, decision-problem, combinatorics. You are faced with the difficult task to set up a dungeon for adventurers. However you made a de...

 

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